philipma1957
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February 03, 2016, 09:55:21 PM |
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prices are finally where they should've been last week
took a long time I put in a 40th at .0041 and I think I got fucked as someone just did a fixed for 1000th at .0053 Yeah, I just been looking at that. I'm at .0042. Why on earth would anyone do .0053 ? Because they want the hash and have the BTC to spend? They can buy cheaper but they chose not to. |
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bctmke
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February 04, 2016, 03:22:38 PM |
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I had about 30 minutes of 1PH available in funds at NH - used them at .0042 last night - no luck  prices are back up again due to 0.0062 8000.00 |
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bctmke
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February 04, 2016, 03:26:34 PM |
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oh and the european nicehash stuff is just as bad
0.0062 5000.00
probably same person
conspiracy theory time or someone is really hitting something hard
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jonnybravo0311 (OP)
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February 04, 2016, 09:26:10 PM |
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Conspiracy theories are the best  . |
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philipma1957
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February 05, 2016, 03:48:49 PM |
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Conspiracy theories are the best . yeah 9000th for 0.0060 every morning just lasts an hour or two but fucks up rentals. |
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February 05, 2016, 05:48:23 PM |
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LOL... like these two currently running? :
#976496 0.0060 9999.00 3309 7474.9785
#976507 0.0060 6000.00 2157 3026.4700
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philipma1957
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February 05, 2016, 07:13:20 PM |
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LOL... like these two currently running? :
#976496 0.0060 9999.00 3309 7474.9785
#976507 0.0060 6000.00 2157 3026.4700
yeah so instead of renting from them and point here. I am pointing 4 avalon6's at them at .0058 and waiting for a price to send some hash here and mmpool |
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bctmke
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February 05, 2016, 07:49:45 PM |
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LOL... like these two currently running? :
#976496 0.0060 9999.00 3309 7474.9785
#976507 0.0060 6000.00 2157 3026.4700
yeah so instead of renting from them and point here. I am pointing 4 avalon6's at them at .0058 and waiting for a price to send some hash here and mmpool Best way to go about it |
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February 06, 2016, 01:03:00 AM |
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Got my 2 new Avalon6 all setup and running! Easy as plugging them in, logging into the UI and setting up the pool. They are a little louder than I was expecting based on videos I'd watched (but that's because they are the rev2 miners). Nowhere near as loud as my S5, thankfully. Running about 3.5TH each on EVGA 1300 G2 PSUs at 12.0V and default settings. I'll probably goof around and see if I can get them running on a Pi using standard cgminer - without the openwrt-based firmware that came with the Pi/SDCard combo I got with the miners. I've got the spare Pi and it's got cgminer 4.9.2 compiled and built with the avalon4 support enabled (it currently runs my 5 U2 sticks). All told I've got about 9TH now in house and all of it's pointed to my pool. I've also got a bunch of S3s to sell now, too |
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bctmke
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February 06, 2016, 04:40:00 AM |
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Got my 2 new Avalon6 all setup and running! Easy as plugging them in, logging into the UI and setting up the pool. They are a little louder than I was expecting based on videos I'd watched (but that's because they are the rev2 miners). Nowhere near as loud as my S5, thankfully. Running about 3.5TH each on EVGA 1300 G2 PSUs at 12.0V and default settings. I'll probably goof around and see if I can get them running on a Pi using standard cgminer - without the openwrt-based firmware that came with the Pi/SDCard combo I got with the miners. I've got the spare Pi and it's got cgminer 4.9.2 compiled and built with the avalon4 support enabled (it currently runs my 5 U2 sticks). All told I've got about 9TH now in house and all of it's pointed to my pool. I've also got a bunch of S3s to sell now, too Awesome!! |
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bctmke
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February 07, 2016, 06:38:31 AM |
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For those that rent with the huge difficulty jump - you're look at somewhere around .00349 to probably .0038 or so as "reasonable".
Right now at NH you can get right around that general # using the nicehash or westhash options (US / EU)
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February 07, 2016, 07:54:44 AM |
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Got my 2 new Avalon6 all setup and running! Easy as plugging them in, logging into the UI and setting up the pool. They are a little louder than I was expecting based on videos I'd watched (but that's because they are the rev2 miners). Nowhere near as loud as my S5, thankfully. Running about 3.5TH each on EVGA 1300 G2 PSUs at 12.0V and default settings. I'll probably goof around and see if I can get them running on a Pi using standard cgminer - without the openwrt-based firmware that came with the Pi/SDCard combo I got with the miners. I've got the spare Pi and it's got cgminer 4.9.2 compiled and built with the avalon4 support enabled (it currently runs my 5 U2 sticks). All told I've got about 9TH now in house and all of it's pointed to my pool. I've also got a bunch of S3s to sell now, too why the avalon 6 instead of the ant S7? |
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philipma1957
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February 07, 2016, 03:10:24 PM |
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Got my 2 new Avalon6 all setup and running! Easy as plugging them in, logging into the UI and setting up the pool. They are a little louder than I was expecting based on videos I'd watched (but that's because they are the rev2 miners). Nowhere near as loud as my S5, thankfully. Running about 3.5TH each on EVGA 1300 G2 PSUs at 12.0V and default settings. I'll probably goof around and see if I can get them running on a Pi using standard cgminer - without the openwrt-based firmware that came with the Pi/SDCard combo I got with the miners. I've got the spare Pi and it's got cgminer 4.9.2 compiled and built with the avalon4 support enabled (it currently runs my 5 U2 sticks). All told I've got about 9TH now in house and all of it's pointed to my pool. I've also got a bunch of S3s to sell now, too why the avalon 6 instead of the ant S7? Well having owned both the s-7 has a huge downside if it is broken replacements take weeks at best. Or like me I got an under performing s-7. About 4500 gh not 4860 gh. This was a batch 1 to this day they have not given me anything to compensate for this shortage of hash. I purchased seven more s-7 unit asked for a coupon to make up for my shortfall in hash. Nothing. On the avalon6 I burnt a board and got a replacement board in under a week. The newer s-7s are prone to break down. So the edge in price is somewhat negated by terrible service. For me I will not buy from bitmaintech until they compensate my batch 1. I am not the only one that has had poor service from bitmaintech. I can not speak for Jonny but this could be part of what he is thinking. |
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February 07, 2016, 03:35:07 PM |
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I've owned S1s, S2s, S3s, and S5s from Bitmain. I opted out of the S7 for a couple of reasons. As Phil mentioned in his post, Bitmain's customer service is basically non-existent. When the S3 was initially announced, it was 504 GH/s. That was reduced to 478 GH/s before the first orders were taken. When I ordered my batch 1 units, Bitmain was still claiming 478 GH/s. That quickly changed to what they launched with: 441 GH/s. Those of us who were in batch 1 actually did receive some compensation (either a coupon or a straight up BTC payment). Back then, Bitmain was active on the forum, responded to emails and wanted to do right by their customers.
That's long since passed. Bitmain's hardware reliability has continued to go downhill. Like the S3, the S7 was announced at a higher hash rate than the units actually produce. As Phil and others have seen, some units don't even make the expected hashing rate.
There are a couple of other reasons I chose the Avalon6. First is the power requirement. I can run the Avalon on my EVGA 1300 G2 PSUs. Not having to purchase another PSU was a big plus for me. The second reason is the noise. I run my miners in my home. The S7 is atrociously loud. I had a noisy miner before (the SP10) and won't do it again.
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bctmke
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February 07, 2016, 05:26:09 PM |
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I've owned S1s, S2s, S3s, and S5s from Bitmain. I opted out of the S7 for a couple of reasons. As Phil mentioned in his post, Bitmain's customer service is basically non-existent. When the S3 was initially announced, it was 504 GH/s. That was reduced to 478 GH/s before the first orders were taken. When I ordered my batch 1 units, Bitmain was still claiming 478 GH/s. That quickly changed to what they launched with: 441 GH/s. Those of us who were in batch 1 actually did receive some compensation (either a coupon or a straight up BTC payment). Back then, Bitmain was active on the forum, responded to emails and wanted to do right by their customers.
That's long since passed. Bitmain's hardware reliability has continued to go downhill. Like the S3, the S7 was announced at a higher hash rate than the units actually produce. As Phil and others have seen, some units don't even make the expected hashing rate.
There are a couple of other reasons I chose the Avalon6. First is the power requirement. I can run the Avalon on my EVGA 1300 G2 PSUs. Not having to purchase another PSU was a big plus for me. The second reason is the noise. I run my miners in my home. The S7 is atrociously loud. I had a noisy miner before (the SP10) and won't do it again.
I'll throw .02 in also. I had plans to grab a few S7s but turned around and ended up with three Avalon 6s. I'm not running mine at home so noise wasn't a concern. I did it because power utilization is lower, i dont need 10 PCI-E cables per unit (which makes it easier to power as Jonny mentioned), Canaan actually updates and works with cgminer miner instead of bastardizing it in a closed manner like bitmain, support is available as Phil mentions and just in general communication is far better. |
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February 07, 2016, 05:34:35 PM |
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You actually just mentioned another reason why I'm not using Bitmain's hardware any longer: their software. They have used their own absolutely crap fork of cgminer for ages. Rather than utilize the mainline cgminer code, they continue off on their own. Their pool software is crap and they have the highest rate of empty blocks of any pool. They SPV mine, and along with f2pool have previously caused a fork in the chain. They claimed they supported p2pool, yet the work they did was utter crap and did not in any way support the concept at all. By the way, I've got a couple PH rented. Let's nail that block! EDIT: of course as soon as I post that, my order is outbid  |
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February 07, 2016, 06:02:04 PM
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okay all valid points. I'm happy with my S1, S3and S5 and won't buy anymore from Bitmain. It seems the S7 is priced high for greed.
As far as renting goes I pay a little more with miningrigrentals yet I can control the pool I mine incase it doesn't work and I rent for 8 hours and I get 8 hours. If the rental has issues I get compensated for it.
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eghigo
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February 08, 2016, 09:51:54 AM |
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Is it really worth renting on miningrigrentals since the prices are really high over there. Minimum I found was at 0.0046 BTC/TH/Day against the recommended current price of around 0.0035 BTC/TH/Day ...
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philipma1957
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February 08, 2016, 10:35:47 AM |
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Is it really worth renting on miningrigrentals since the prices are really high over there. Minimum I found was at 0.0046 BTC/TH/Day against the recommended current price of around 0.0035 BTC/TH/Day ...
paying 46 when 35 is the fair price is a losing deal long term. |
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February 08, 2016, 10:38:11 AM |
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Is it really worth renting on miningrigrentals since the prices are really high over there. Minimum I found was at 0.0046 BTC/TH/Day against the recommended current price of around 0.0035 BTC/TH/Day ...
paying 46 when 35 is the fair price is a losing deal long term. That is what I think but it seems there are a lot of miners renting from there. I guess I will stick with NH / WH ... |
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