i bought 3 mps from him ddays ago.. then they charged back.. i got a call from greendot saying they were blocking my card and siezing funds because the purchaser has reported them stolen. MOneypaktrader here said i should take it as a loss.. Why? I bought them from him! he didn't even help me! He ignored it and asked if i wanted to buy more! it was for $445 and a 80$
Firstly, our site moneypaktrader.com clearly outlines the RISK OF LOSS policy.
In this case, even if it happened as you said it did (which it didn't), you assumed the risk of loss and therefore the resulting loss.
"User assumes all risk of loss for USD once it is deposited to the appropriate location (generally a debit card). This includes the largely theoretical "moneypak reversal" [...] "
As the evidence will show, I have been overly fair with greendots, refunding a $1K MP and trusting greendots when they lied about the value of the $445 MP which they bought as a $145 MP. Further greendots lied about "asked if i wanted to buy more". I have a policy to discontinue business with scammers, which greendots is.
greendots interaction SUMMARY -
greendots, aka Disgruntled Customer (DC) first contacted me on July 3rd and they purchased a $1K Moneypak for 7.3 BTC in our third Torchat conversation the afternoon of Friday August 30.
- Friday August 30 -
DC notified me promptly that they couldn't load the $1K MP and I agreed to resell the $1K MP for 7.125, which I promtly did and sent them the funds from that.
DC bought more MPs from me afterwards that day - $120, $80, and $145.
I paid Suppliers for those MPs and noticed the $145 was actually a $445 MP, Supplier had mislabeled the original submission as $145 and sent a followup message stating it was $445 which I saw afterwards.
I sent DC the payment address promptly after they cashed the $445 MP and told them to pay 2 BTC more for the extra $300 (well below the best of exchange rates at the time).
DC agreed to pay the difference despite DC claiming the MP only deposited $145 to their account. This was obviously a lie from DC, but I had no solid evidence to contradict DC and because DC claimed to actually see it deposited as $145, obviously DC shouldn't pay extra, so I dropped the issue.
- Sun 01 Sep 2013 -
$445 MP Supplier contacted me to clarify that it was $445 on the MP (NOT $145) and asked for the rest of coins.
I responded to Supplier that I would contact DC and give them Supplier's Bitcoin address and ask them to pay the extra bitcoins for the $445 MP.
I contacted DC and gave them Supplier's bitcoin address requesting they pay the rest of the coins.
- MONDAY -
Supplier never received the extra $300 in coins. . . Imagine what they did?
- Monday Night / Early Tue 03 Sep 2013 -
DC reports the MP was clawed back and blames me, leads to this discussion.
BOTTOM LINE: DC NEVER PAID in full FOR THE $445 MP and the $80 MP probably wouldn't have been reversed (if it was reversed) if not for the $445 being contested. Obviously when you don't pay for the moneypak, the supplier is going to try to get it back. greendots was too stupid to take the embezzled funds out at the atm immediately after deciding to embezzle them and therefore got what they deserved, a rare thing for scammers in this community.
Link to redacted logs:
http://pastebin.com/qSb34H3HDid I miss anything? PLEASE CORRECT ME IF MY SUMMARY IS INCORRECT IN ANY WAY!
