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March 01, 2014, 01:38:37 PM
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BADecker, please send my btc back.  Thanks. Grin
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March 01, 2014, 07:38:20 PM
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BADecker, please send my btc back.  Thanks. Grin

How clever of you, JTP, faking like I owe you some bitcoins, just to flush me, I mean him, out!  Cheesy

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March 02, 2014, 06:26:49 PM
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Thanks for the help, we aprreciate it!


hey
so not sure how your site works.
you take MP for btc...i understand but whats up with the fees? you take 15 percent on 500+ plus feees?
and also lets say
i got 1000 dollars @ 385 rate listed on your site.
so pretty much i have 850 dollars to go towards the 385 price?Huh
im still consfused...let me know im trying to do some business which you might like.
thanks

Yeah! If you read the stuff before and after what you are quoting there it explains it better.
Then, hit us up on torchat or facebook to discuss more.

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EDIT: Done 2/18/14. Right on. Thanks.

Your Welcome!
Thanks for the trades!

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Howdy MoneyPakTrader,
 Are there any problems logging into the Moneypaktrader.com website? My login stopped working about 2 months ago. I've never changed my password or anything. I never seem to catch you online anymore either to do MP trades so I wanted to get a refund of the tiny bit of coins I still have there. I'm not quite sure how to proceed.  No rush. (Coinbit)
Bitcoins Wallet: 13Gf4m2uPe3bpwn6y7uYYCu6g5s7qkjHcj

Hit us up on torchat or facebook chat and we'll work through it, there have been some database issues which led us to recommend against storing coins on our site an hopefully we'll reopen that once the programming details for it are worked out.

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March 03, 2014, 07:56:07 AM
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Did they alter the CLI to remove the market function? They publish a changelog?

We've decided against recommending counterparty to investors due to the unstable nature of the critically required software releases (due to its "alpha" quality perhaps), the developers implementing code to open network connections to continually poll website/s (wtf?) while they refused to consider adding some simple features to allow DEX usability (ok, we get it, you don't want to implement our advice, but adding forced updating and http polling is unacceptable. . .)
For historical documentation our recomendations were compiled here: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71.0.html currently knocked to page 2 of that board due to non-interest of devs although the proposal was reviewed.
Why would you force people to update into new versions that continually establish a network connection to a specific site without explicitly informing users that the update does such new networking activities? https://github.com/PhantomPhreak/counterpartyd
WOW, very detailed changelog (professionals for sure!)
 Seems rather sketchy at best. . .

We are still selling counterparty through these 2 methods: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4

Is Moneypaktrader around?  I sent him btc for XCP on 02/13 EST. (My PM says I sent it on the 14th but it's wrong)  He didn't send XCP and he doesn't respond to messages or emails.  I don't care that he has a good reputation on here, his customer service just horrible.  If he didn't want to honor .005 anymore than he should be on the forums announcing it or take his offer off the spreadsheet in the XCP buy/sell thread.  Or, just send my money back.  Below is the PM I sent.
Sent another .1 BTC for 20 XCP
TXID
5c802a24589fe7d2556e2f0ffb6ea2eadf9c46507329292b4c0de58d8d898b7d
Thanks.  How much longer are you offering at .005?

What exactly were you sending the coin for?
It matches a donation here: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4
But you're saying it was a mistake donation? Sent after the deadline (30 BTC came sooner in this case) for our 0.005 btc/xcp XCP giveaway?

We never controlled the spreadsheet but did post the terms (30 btc limit) for that promotion you reference. one person claimed the bulk of that promotion as you can see (transparently) in the blockchains.

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March 05, 2014, 12:18:57 AM
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Did they alter the CLI to remove the market function? They publish a changelog?

We've decided against recommending counterparty to investors due to the unstable nature of the critically required software releases (due to its "alpha" quality perhaps), the developers implementing code to open network connections to continually poll website/s (wtf?) while they refused to consider adding some simple features to allow DEX usability (ok, we get it, you don't want to implement our advice, but adding forced updating and http polling is unacceptable. . .)
For historical documentation our recomendations were compiled here: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71.0.html currently knocked to page 2 of that board due to non-interest of devs although the proposal was reviewed.
Why would you force people to update into new versions that continually establish a network connection to a specific site without explicitly informing users that the update does such new networking activities? https://github.com/PhantomPhreak/counterpartyd
WOW, very detailed changelog (professionals for sure!)
 Seems rather sketchy at best. . .

We are still selling counterparty through these 2 methods: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4

Is Moneypaktrader around?  I sent him btc for XCP on 02/13 EST. (My PM says I sent it on the 14th but it's wrong)  He didn't send XCP and he doesn't respond to messages or emails.  I don't care that he has a good reputation on here, his customer service just horrible.  If he didn't want to honor .005 anymore than he should be on the forums announcing it or take his offer off the spreadsheet in the XCP buy/sell thread.  Or, just send my money back.  Below is the PM I sent.
Sent another .1 BTC for 20 XCP
TXID
5c802a24589fe7d2556e2f0ffb6ea2eadf9c46507329292b4c0de58d8d898b7d
Thanks.  How much longer are you offering at .005?

What exactly were you sending the coin for?
It matches a donation here: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4
But you're saying it was a mistake donation? Sent after the deadline (30 BTC came sooner in this case) for our 0.005 btc/xcp XCP giveaway?

We never controlled the spreadsheet but did post the terms (30 btc limit) for that promotion you reference. one person claimed the bulk of that promotion as you can see (transparently) in the blockchains.

Is there any reason you aren't sending my coins back to me?  My original intention was to purchase XCP.  I didn't realize the deal was done.  PLEASE just send me back the .1btc.  There was a misunderstanding.  I will accept xcp at a rate of .008 if you want.  Just send me something already.
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March 06, 2014, 12:20:35 PM
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Did they alter the CLI to remove the market function? They publish a changelog?

We've decided against recommending counterparty to investors due to the unstable nature of the critically required software releases (due to its "alpha" quality perhaps), the developers implementing code to open network connections to continually poll website/s (wtf?) while they refused to consider adding some simple features to allow DEX usability (ok, we get it, you don't want to implement our advice, but adding forced updating and http polling is unacceptable. . .)
For historical documentation our recomendations were compiled here: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71.0.html currently knocked to page 2 of that board due to non-interest of devs although the proposal was reviewed.
Why would you force people to update into new versions that continually establish a network connection to a specific site without explicitly informing users that the update does such new networking activities? https://github.com/PhantomPhreak/counterpartyd
WOW, very detailed changelog (professionals for sure!)
 Seems rather sketchy at best. . .

We are still selling counterparty through these 2 methods: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4

Is Moneypaktrader around?  I sent him btc for XCP on 02/13 EST. (My PM says I sent it on the 14th but it's wrong)  He didn't send XCP and he doesn't respond to messages or emails.  I don't care that he has a good reputation on here, his customer service just horrible.  If he didn't want to honor .005 anymore than he should be on the forums announcing it or take his offer off the spreadsheet in the XCP buy/sell thread.  Or, just send my money back.  Below is the PM I sent.
Sent another .1 BTC for 20 XCP
TXID
5c802a24589fe7d2556e2f0ffb6ea2eadf9c46507329292b4c0de58d8d898b7d
Thanks.  How much longer are you offering at .005?

What exactly were you sending the coin for?
It matches a donation here: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4
But you're saying it was a mistake donation? Sent after the deadline (30 BTC came sooner in this case) for our 0.005 btc/xcp XCP giveaway?

We never controlled the spreadsheet but did post the terms (30 btc limit) for that promotion you reference. one person claimed the bulk of that promotion as you can see (transparently) in the blockchains.

Is there any reason you aren't sending my coins back to me?  My original intention was to purchase XCP.  I didn't realize the deal was done.  PLEASE just send me back the .1btc.  There was a misunderstanding.  I will accept xcp at a rate of .008 if you want.  Just send me something already.

I tried to contact you through Facebook like you suggested but you haven't accepted my friend request yet.  It would be really cool of you to send me back .1btc or I will even accept 10XCP which is way above market rate on Poloniex.  Thanks in advance.  I look forward to settling this transaction.
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March 06, 2014, 09:48:47 PM
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Did they alter the CLI to remove the market function? They publish a changelog?

We've decided against recommending counterparty to investors due to the unstable nature of the critically required software releases (due to its "alpha" quality perhaps), the developers implementing code to open network connections to continually poll website/s (wtf?) while they refused to consider adding some simple features to allow DEX usability (ok, we get it, you don't want to implement our advice, but adding forced updating and http polling is unacceptable. . .)
For historical documentation our recomendations were compiled here: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71.0.html currently knocked to page 2 of that board due to non-interest of devs although the proposal was reviewed.
Why would you force people to update into new versions that continually establish a network connection to a specific site without explicitly informing users that the update does such new networking activities? https://github.com/PhantomPhreak/counterpartyd
WOW, very detailed changelog (professionals for sure!)
 Seems rather sketchy at best. . .

We are still selling counterparty through these 2 methods: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4

Is Moneypaktrader around?  I sent him btc for XCP on 02/13 EST. (My PM says I sent it on the 14th but it's wrong)  He didn't send XCP and he doesn't respond to messages or emails.  I don't care that he has a good reputation on here, his customer service just horrible.  If he didn't want to honor .005 anymore than he should be on the forums announcing it or take his offer off the spreadsheet in the XCP buy/sell thread.  Or, just send my money back.  Below is the PM I sent.
Sent another .1 BTC for 20 XCP
TXID
5c802a24589fe7d2556e2f0ffb6ea2eadf9c46507329292b4c0de58d8d898b7d
Thanks.  How much longer are you offering at .005?

What exactly were you sending the coin for?
It matches a donation here: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4
But you're saying it was a mistake donation? Sent after the deadline (30 BTC came sooner in this case) for our 0.005 btc/xcp XCP giveaway?

We never controlled the spreadsheet but did post the terms (30 btc limit) for that promotion you reference. one person claimed the bulk of that promotion as you can see (transparently) in the blockchains.

Is there any reason you aren't sending my coins back to me?  My original intention was to purchase XCP.  I didn't realize the deal was done.  PLEASE just send me back the .1btc.  There was a misunderstanding.  I will accept xcp at a rate of .008 if you want.  Just send me something already.

I tried to contact you through Facebook like you suggested but you haven't accepted my friend request yet.  It would be really cool of you to send me back .1btc or I will even accept 10XCP which is way above market rate on Poloniex.  Thanks in advance.  I look forward to settling this transaction.

I'm still waiting for you to either send me 10XCP or .1 btc.
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March 07, 2014, 12:58:55 AM
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Are you still in business MPT?

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March 09, 2014, 01:04:23 AM
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March 11, 2014, 08:51:54 PM
Last edit: March 11, 2014, 09:15:26 PM by MoneypakTrader.com
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Are you still in business MPT?
We have plenty of MPs for immediate availability via torchat or facebook chat.
Other currencies are also for trade and we are launching our own currency soon.
Which services are in question?
Here is the current list of our available products/services: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=products
Once dividends are (re-)enabled by the Counterparty protocol/program, our MPTSTOCK shareholders will receive dividends for February. We'll be transitioning to a mixture of XCP / BTC / MPUSD / MPTSTOCK / MPBTC dividends in the future based on shareholder interest in such.

Thanks for posting your questions to the forum! This is the best place for service discussion to help others get the benefit of such knowledge.

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We've decided against recommending counterparty to investors due to their inability to improve the protocol to enable the DEX to be a functional BTC-XCP distributed exchange.
A historical documentation our recommendations were compiled here: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71.0.html
Why would you force people to update into new versions that continually establish a network connection to a specific site without explicitly informing users that the update does such new networking activities? Refusing to include such disclosures in the official changelog. . .
https://github.com/PhantomPhreak/counterpartyd
WOW, very detailed changelog (professionals for sure!)
We are still selling counterparty through these 2 methods: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4
Is Moneypaktrader around?  I sent him btc for XCP on 02/13 EST. (My PM says I sent it on the 14th but it's wrong)  He didn't send XCP and he doesn't respond to messages or emails.  I don't care that he has a good reputation on here, his customer service just horrible.  If he didn't want to honor .005 anymore than he should be on the forums announcing it or take his offer off the spreadsheet in the XCP buy/sell thread.  Or, just send my money back.  Below is the PM I sent.
Sent another .1 BTC for 20 XCP
TXID
5c802a24589fe7d2556e2f0ffb6ea2eadf9c46507329292b4c0de58d8d898b7d
Thanks.  How much longer are you offering at .005?
What exactly were you sending the coin for?
It matches a donation here: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4
But you're saying it was a mistake donation? Sent after the deadline (30 BTC came sooner in this case) for our 0.005 btc/xcp XCP giveaway? The terms were clear that that promotion ended at 30BTC.
We never controlled the spreadsheet but did post the terms (30 btc limit) for that promotion you reference. one person claimed the bulk of that promotion as you can see (transparently) in the blockchains.
I'm still waiting for you to either send me 10XCP or .1 btc.
Thanks for allowing us to resolve this issue, we appreciate your support.

I tried to contact you through Facebook like you suggested but you haven't accepted my friend request yet.  It would be really cool of you to send me back .1btc or I will even accept 10XCP which is way above market rate on Poloniex.  Thanks in advance.  I look forward to settling this transaction.
We accept all friend requests on there.
We have settled your mistaken donation per our chat discussions.
All valid btc sends for that promotion were honored and we donated several $K in XCP to those that took advantage of it.

We are still selling counterparty through these 2 methods: https://moneypaktrader.com/?m=order&op=4
Is there any reason you aren't sending my coins back to me?  My original intention was to purchase XCP.  I didn't realize the deal was done.  PLEASE just send me back the .1btc.  There was a misunderstanding.  I will accept xcp at a rate of .008 if you want.  Just send me something already.
We discussed the issue in detail via chat messenger and it is hopefully resolved.

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March 12, 2014, 03:57:41 PM
Last edit: March 12, 2014, 04:39:41 PM by MoneypakTrader.com
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Very disappointing that they'd do a silent breakage of their software like this, plenty of XCP still available for sale:
Counterpartyd version 6.6 allows dividend payments to be made in bitcoin: https://www.counterparty.co/pay-dividends-with-bitcoin/

Very cool.

yes but can someone explain how this is done?    these metaprotocols don't control btc,  the best one could do is provide the issuer admin a snapshop of btc addresses and % ownership.

Probably not on the protocol level, but we could do it on counterpartd level, such as having a command in counterpartyd gets the amount of asset that each address holds, and send btc proportionally to that with sendmany to minimize fee

Any word if the dev's will get this feature working? That would be awesome!
Nobody has been able to get the master branch of 6.6 to pay dividends (in EITHER BTC OR XCP) and nobody has been able to get it to issue assets either. Did you get it working again in the test branch?
Would love to be proved wrong on this, but it's unlikely unless they unbreak those features: http://www.blockscan.com/tx.aspx shows dividends/issuances have not been made since the version update, although a hacker could use an older version or otherwise tweak/alter the program for a workaround to use these features.
NOTE: The master branch is the "stable" release that end-users are practically forced to upgrade to or else the program won't work and instead sputters out errors after directly connecting to the dev's repository from your computer.

You gotta read the fine print: https://www.counterparty.co/pay-dividends-with-bitcoin/
"The Counterparty protocol does all of the work and shareholders will receive BTC as they normally do."
i.e. shareholders DON'T normally receive BTC dividends through counterparty (and can't receive ANY kind of dividend in 6.6 as well, XCP, DEX asset, or otherwise).

You can't just go around blindly believing everything these spokespeople and "devs" say. I understand you all want the price of XCP to skyrocket and that there is a sincere desire to want this centrally controlled and distributed counterpartyd software to work well and have strong incentive to believe when the devs/spokespeople say"it works". But you can see in my post history numerous examples of these heads spouting false information and refusing to listen to reason in regards to fixing counterparty protocol/software problems such as when we warned them not to implement the 10 block limit on BTC offers because it would CRIPPLE people's ability to offer BTC for XCP or other DEX assets.
https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71.0.html

TAKEAWAY: Don't believe this current 6.6 version will issue assets or pay dividends (in btc or ANY DEX asset). They've broken all of those features and then pushed the broken versions to the master branch for everyone to "use".
HOWEVER: You can count on the Dev's repository being connected to by the program with the EXACT time/IP/etc. EACH TIME you issue any command through their software. But we trust these anonymous guys not to abuse that info, right?

NEW INVESTORS: There's TWO WORKING EXCHANGES where you can buy XCP!! PLEASE HELP Burn investors and buy some XCP! DON'T WAIT for these dev's to revise the DEX into a functional exchange  to place a buy order for XCP!!! They decided to ignore our advice and a) give you 10 blocks to accept someone's XCP offer, and b) "Suggest" a 1% trading fee (on top of the ~50 cents of transfer fees PER XCP transaction) so you'll need to go to bter or poloniex to place a buy order with your BTC if you're a professional trader or plan to do any kind of volume trading.

References:
https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71.0.html (The best proposal for fixing the DEX to allow BTC trading to flourish on there)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5660830#msg5660830 (XCP spokesperson WRONG on XCP functionality in regards to dividends, asset issuances silently broken by Devs)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5009383#msg5009383 (Core Dev corrected for understating the fees actually required for using XCP)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5069688#msg5069688 (Core XCP Dev wrong on lost fees for using XCP)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5067070#msg5067070 (more discussion of required fees / default fees)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5066521#msg5066521 (Primary XCP Dev WRONG on how orders are matched by protocol)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5066772#msg5066772 (More about Multisig fees, DEX fees, and protocol quickfixes are proposed but promptly ignored by core devs)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5049089#msg5049089 (Request for explanation on how more fees will not hinder DEX BTC trading promptly ignored).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5008694#msg5008694 (Fees for using Counterpartyd/DEX explained in more detail).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg4986698#msg4986698 (BiggestFish wrong on how basic Bitcoin protocol transaction fees work)
FULL DISCLOSURE: the XCP devs moderate their thread, use anonymous identities with no trust history, deliberate privately about XCP changes without disclosing in advance the nature of such changes that have been implemented (hiding behind the "it's open source" mantra), and are controlling the fate of huge sums of digital assets/value. Scary.
Here's a link to their trust:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=191173
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=191103
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=195015

Yeah, we're available on torchat or FB chat to sell XCP, great time to buy! low prices.

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March 12, 2014, 07:41:43 PM
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Crosspost, service/ecurrency announcement:
We've launched 2 new full reserve assets.
Note: the MPBTC had an issuance error but no more than the BTC held in reserves will be distributed. Once Assets can be destroyed, we will destroy the excess MPBTC.

We have just launched (the first?) full reserve USD backed P2P crypto-currency "MPUSD" along with another full reserve XCP asset "MPBTC".

These currencies are able to be traded P2P through the Counterparty DEX system (as DEX "asset"s) and enable USD P2P trades to be done natively against any other DEX tradeable assets such as XCP, BTC, MPTSTOCK, MPUSD, MPBTC,  etc. Many possibilities exist for purely P2P exchange using these assets.

MPUSD are available from us through trades negotiated through Torchat, FB messenger, the XCP DEX system, or other channels we choose to use (such as Agora Marketplace, link in sig).

Here is why MPUSD / MPBTC will retain value of at least $1/MPUSD and 1BTC/1MPBTC:

1) MPUSD / MPBTC holders will always get priority redemption at 100% full face value for our Moneypaks (MPs) via Torchat or FB messenger as well as any future distribution methods we use for selling MPs.
This means that if you have MPUSD / MPBTC, you can redeem them with priority over holders of BTC or other cryptocurrencies.
i.e. If you contact us through Torchat and want to redeem 2000 MPUSD (currently ~ 3.15 MPBTC) for MP's we will trade you all our available MP's up to $2000 in exchange for your 2000 MPUSD or 3.15 MPBTC (up to the value of MPs we have available, which replenishes every day. Example: Only 1800 MPUSD are redemmed if we only have a $400, $500, $300, and a $600 MP in stock, but no $200 MP to round out the 2000). NOTE: MPs must be redeemed and cashed out promptly, generally within a few minutes.

2) MPUSD / MPBTC can be redeemed through us for USD CASH mailed to ANY continental US address (including POBoxes) for a maximum fee of 15% (you receive 85% in USD CASH in mail). This is a permanent service, contact us through torchat or facebook messenger to order some cash.
BONUS: Orders placed in March are eligible for a promotional 5% rate (you get 95% in CASH mailed to you).
FEES/LIMITS NOTE: 10 MPUSD Priority or 20 MPUSD Express Shipping fee applies. Limit of $1000 per address per 7 day period.

3) MPUSD / MPBTC holders can redeem their MPUSD / MPBTC through us for BTC AT 100% FULL VALUE!
MPUSD / MPBTC holders can redeem their MPUSD / MPBTC through us for XCP, NMC, or other digital assets/altcoins for a maximum 15% fee. For the month of March, this fee will only be 5% (i.e. you get 95% of the asset requested).

4) In order to guarantee redemptions, we will maintain at least 100% Bitcoin reserves for the outstanding MPUSD in our business address: 1MPUSDQ7MVrqbSTFfacNP1V9KBooz9XKgy
In order to guarantee redemptions, we will maintain at least 100% Bitcoin reserves for the outstanding MPBTC in our business address: 1MPBTCrAZPxR8dzUJc69R6RnbvVgVtKuaT

You can see we have FAR more BTC reserves than the externally held MPUSD and total issued MPBTC and we pledge to continue to maintain adequate reserves by not selling more MPUSD / MPBTC unless our reserves would be at least 200% for MPUSD (to prevent bitcoin price fluctuations from lowering reserve value below outstanding MPUSD value) and 100% for MPBTC.
In the unlikely event the BTC/USD value falls and causes the MPUSD reserve value to be less than the outstanding MPUSD, MPUSD will only be able to be redeemed through us for the full proportion of BTC held in the reserve account.
Historically, BTC prices rarely drop more than 50% so our 200% reserve goal should be adequate.

Others will (hopefully) trade our assets/currencies to increase liquidity.
We are open to partnering with other trusted bitcoin people/groups to further distribute / guarantee redemptions.

NOTE: MPTSTOCK is the publicly traded investors asset for moneypaktrader.com with profits distributed on a monthly basis.

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In order to promote our new Counterparty Assets which are 100% USD backed and redeemable (for full face value in BTC or MP) currency, we'll be paying a total of at least 2000 XCP in dividends to holders of MPUSD over the next month on about a weekly basis. We may or may not continue this promotion after that into future months depending on interest.
At the current distribution levels of 10,000 MPUSD that would be 0.2 XCP per MPUSD if held for the next month (BIG PROFIT!!).
If there is sufficient demand, we will issue and distribute more MPUSD so long as our publicly verifiable Bitcoin reserves are at least 200% of the MPUSD value distributed (to ensure adequate backing for the currency).

We've also designated another 500 XCP to be paid to the first professional/central website exchange that continuously allows MPUSD/BTC trading available to users through TOR for one week without interuptions (linking to the official post description about what MPUSD is). Theoretically, an exchange operator could buy out virtually all of the MPUSD and facilitate trading it on their exchange while doube-dipping into both of these promotions for close to the full XCP reward (provided others don't buy into MPUSD or withdraw their MPUSD from the exchange). This promotion expires April 15th, making April 8th the last day for exchanges to ask for review on the reward (send email or chat message to notify us of your implementation to allow our monitoring of your uptime).

We openly trade cryptocurrencies through Torchat, FacebookChat, and the Counterparty Distributed EXchange (DEX). More info about these new fully backed currencies our feedback thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133439.msg5664449#msg5664449

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i am confuse trying to load money park green dot to bitcoin, can someone help me out of here am stock
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i am confuse trying to load money park green dot to bitcoin, can someone help me out of here am stock

Hmm, strange.
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ANNOUNCEMENTS:
A monthly dividend of 18000 XCP was issued to stockholders recently. Stockholder input continues to be welcome regarding the method of future dividends or other relevant issues.
http://www.blockscan.com/assetInfo.aspx?q=MPTSTOCK#dividends

MPUSD issued the first weekly kickback to early adopters of MPUSD. Due to volatility of XCP/BTC/USD, please contact us directly via torchat or FBchat to invest in this new USD e-currency or just negotiate via a public DEX listing.
http://www.blockscan.com/assetInfo.aspx?q=MPUSD#dividends

MPBTC is firmly pegged against BTC with buy walls that guarantee it. Once the "protocol hardcoded 10 block time-limit for BTCpay" is lifted, no coordination will be needed to redeem MPBTC for BTC.
http://www.blockscan.com/order.aspx?f=2

More info at bottom in original information releases.

The XCP Dev's have done a great thing here in implementing the first bitcoin to/from Altcoin distributed trading scheme (Ripple was close, but had a central investor/distribution source/base).
KUDO's! Thanks for the great work!

Back when dev [retroactively] levied a 5 XCP fee against issuing assets (which fortunately had a side-effect of blocking our initial issuance of "AAAMPTSTOCK"), the "re-issuance for non-zero quantity" feature of your software was broken. Please fix this.

If you're an XCP true-believer who gets butthurt over criticism, stop reading NOW!

Is it just me, or has the launch of this coin - which seems to have so much innovation - been an unmitigated disaster, exchange-market-wise?

You're obviously correct looking at pricing and functionality of the XCP system over stated claims and goals due to a few CRITICAL problems:

1) Anyone who's tried to trade BTC in/out of the DEX natively at competitive rates has come to understand all too well, the BTC integration SUCKS:
The way the dev dropped the ball by implementing a few misguided solutions (First with the 10 block BTCpay time limit and second by making an offer to buy 100BTC worth of asset have a default of 1BTC cost(!?!) in burn fees (*JUST TO LIST THE OFFER!?!*)) which predictably had the foreseen effect to prevent any legitimate long-standing BTC offer from being placed (due to castrating the choice/power from the BTC giver order as predicted: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71.msg355.html#msg355 ).

2) Was there any explanation why the dev chose to leave residue of assets to hang around the order books after the relevant orders should have 100% matched and traded? http://www.blockscan.com/order_book.aspx
I want to sell 100 asset, existing order matched, only 99.9999995 asset transferred, and put remainder 0.0000005 back on order book. . . WTF!?!

3) Initial distribution was wider and thus MANY more sellers are available over other altcoins which have more centralized break-in periods / premining. More Sellers = lower price. The competitor coins have relatively few initial adopters/investors and don't suffer so much from this despite having massive holdings in total. i.e. competitor altcoins may have 5-10 x the value but only 10% or less total sellers so the price has little resistance against upward movement compared to XCP.
NOTE: This is a good thing for wider distribution but a bad thing for getting rich quick.

4) XCP is just not that useful and initial investors have taken notice: It's a difficult to use and it lacks much practical use for average users due in part to virtually no explanations for novice bitcoiners about how to use and the DEX just doesn't work very well (due to some of the explained problems here and elsewhere). https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71
Hopefully the GUI, webwallet/trading and such will alleviate this to some extent.

5) Radical changes to protocol with little public discussion and a private deliberation process by dev.
When a 5 XCP fee was introduced [retroactively] for issuing assets, that was a good reason for buying XCP since asset creation would reward XCP holders and cause XCP demand inducing people to buy and hold, but since the dev lowered that cost recently (to help BTT and others who favor "asset spam" over stakeholder reward) it removed 90% of that 5xcp "per-asset issuance stakeholder reward" that we were receiving. Current stakeholders and future investors can foresee this and similar actions having a negative long-term pricing effect over the status quo and the market shows how stakeholders are voting with their shares on this type decision making process.
There was a rumor of the XCP-dev considering stakeholder feedback in the future, however we are obligated to trust past experiences rather than such vague rumors of a radical shift in their decision-making process.

6) When people see the changelog they're like "WTF? you call this a changelog?". Then they see the amount of "rapid development" taking place and then pushed to their computers with little to no discussion of how it will positively or negatively affect them/stakeholders and they realize this is not something "safe" to invest in. Of course they can refuse the updates and let the software stop working or force-run it using obsolete settings and risk losing coins.

7) Asset reissuances were broken and then never fixed when the 5xcp asset fee was retroactively put into place. Better know EXACTLY how many shares you want issued the first time, all future re-issuance attempts might appear to succeed, but the program won't register them. Fixing this is going to

On a positive note, the dev might consider asking for stakeholder input before implementing radical protocol/program changes. I encourage all you bitcoiners to dump some resources into this alt-coin in hopes that one day you'll have a voice in the direction it takes. Or you could just be vocal here and in the other forum to have the dev push more misguided changes such as those outlined above and elsewhere.

Obviously this is only a partial explanation, please link/quote other analysis for more diverse views that explain the phenomenon you asked about. Historically, the people posting here are unlikely to share such problems either from lack of experience with the software or other reasons.

But perhaps it's not the problems with the existing features, but the need to enhance/implement more features (such as more asset naming options) that is precluding rapid acceptance by other bitcoiners? Too bad we don't have alpha-testers with better reasoning skills influencing development. . .

XCP is not another altcoin. The key is to improve the Dex. Without a working reliable DEX, put it on more exchanges is just a pump and dump. It may make the early investors rich quickly, but never a real success. For those who have tens of thousands of XCP, I don't think you can liquidate all you holding by just pump and dump. A real DEX is a must.
Agreed, specifically for the problems outlined above. Until then, we will continue to vote with our holdings in the marketplace.
Fixes/quickfixes were advised, but other solutions are available if the problems above are acknowledged:
https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,71

We've launched MPUSD, using a 200% double bitcoin reserve, this USD denominated asset will allow USD trading on the Counterparty DEX.
Buy it and make some free XCP. . .

In order to promote our new Counterparty Assets which are 100% USD backed and redeemable (for full face value in BTC or MP) currency, we'll be paying a total of at least 2000 XCP in dividends to holders of MPUSD over the next month on about a weekly basis. We may or may not continue this promotion after that into future months depending on interest.
At the current distribution levels of 10,000 MPUSD that would be 0.2 XCP per MPUSD if held for the next month (BIG PROFIT!!).
If there is sufficient demand, we will issue and distribute more MPUSD so long as our publicly verifiable Bitcoin reserves are at least 200% of the MPUSD value distributed (to ensure adequate backing for the currency).

We've also designated another 500 XCP to be paid to the first professional/central website exchange that continuously allows MPUSD/BTC trading available to users through TOR for one week without interruptions (linking to the official post description about what MPUSD is). Theoretically, an exchange operator could buy out virtually all of the MPUSD and facilitate trading it on their exchange while doube-dipping into both of these promotions for close to the full XCP reward (provided others don't buy into MPUSD or withdraw their MPUSD from the exchange). This promotion expires April 15th, making April 8th the last day for exchanges to ask for review on the reward (send email or chat message to notify us of your implementation to allow our monitoring of your uptime).

We openly trade cryptocurrencies through Torchat, FacebookChat, and the Counterparty Distributed EXchange (DEX). More info about these new fully backed currencies our feedback thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133439.msg5664449#msg5664449

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March 21, 2014, 12:07:27 AM
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Trying to understand this new stock/exchange your running. Is there a site I can go for a better understanding. If not I understand. With your rates for moneypak for bitcoin based on mtgox last time I used your service what are they based on now? Is your rate bitstamp +5% or something else? Look forward to hearing your responses.

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