How to make an asic miner from scratch using 16nm Finfet chips from TSMC?

[Mr. Kashif]

Can anyone here help me out dong this?

[sidehack]

Well, first you're going to need some design software and someone competent to use it. And then some really good simulation software and a computing cluster to verify your design. And then a couple million dollars to send with it to the chip fab for tapeout and foundry costs.

[jstefanop]

These posts make me giggle whenever I see them.

[HagssFIN]

You simply cannot make an ASIC miner without any knowledge in the subject..

[jokerboy]

I have a similar topic. Maybe you can find something useful for yourself -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1304273.0

[Meech]

You simply cannot make an ASIC miner without any knowledge in the subject..

Why? Most started that way I'm pretty sure.  This was all new to most hobbyists, which probably had little capital to begin with. 
But yes it's a vague statement and post.

[dunand]

I will PM you a 30 minutes step by step instructions on how to built a miner from scratch using that chip. You will need some tie-wraps, a phillips screwdriver and an old VCR.

[jokerboy]

I will PM you a 30 minutes step by step instructions on how to built a miner from scratch using that chip. You will need some tie-wraps, a phillips screwdriver and an old VCR.

Can you send me the same PM?

[VirosaGITS]

I will PM you a 30 minutes step by step instructions on how to built a miner from scratch using that chip. You will need some tie-wraps, a phillips screwdriver and an old VCR.

Can you send me the same PM?

Please forward it to me. I am of stance that the best construction material is duct tape. So maybe i could take your design and substitute tie-warps with duct tape.

But yeah. If you have to ask...

[braindead]

I will PM you a 30 minutes step by step instructions on how to built a miner from scratch using that chip. You will need some tie-wraps, a phillips screwdriver and an old VCR.

Can you send me the same PM?

A microwave will do the Job also ..

[Mr. Kashif]

I'm goin to crack a deal with TSMC for their 16nm chips. So I just need some help making this asic cpu.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

I'm goin to crack a deal with TSMC for their 16nm chips. So I just need some help making this asic cpu.

What chip from TSMC? Do you have any credentials or at least contacts in the semi business so they will even talk to you?

TSMC does not 'make chips' of their own design. They are a foundry that makes chips for other companies using those companies designs. Now if you have a chip design ready for simulation and perhaps ready for making test masks along with around 1million dollars to get their interest, then you are all set.

[Mr. Kashif]

I'm goin to crack a deal with TSMC for their 16nm chips. So I just need some help making this asic cpu.

What chip from TSMC? Do you have any credentials or at least contacts in the semi business so they will even talk to you?

TSMC does not 'make chips' of their own design. They are a foundry that makes chips for other companies using those companies designs. Now if you have a chip design ready for simulation and perhaps ready for making test masks along with around 1million dollars to get their interest, then you are all set.

 Ohk! I thought they made processors on their own and I can buy it from them.

[2112]

Register yourself at the Synopsys website. There's a wealth of information available there, and if you actually physically participate in any of their sales events you will be sure to meet the right people who could work with you.

The information below is out of date, I just opened the e-mail from Synopsys too late to be of immediate help:

Upcoming Webinar  
 
Tackle the Complexities of FinFET Library Characterization with SiliconSmart
 Jan. 13, 2016; 10:00 a.m. PT
 FinFET process technology has introduced new characterization complexities when it comes to delivering signoff-quality cell libraries. Learn about the new, innovative SiliconSmart capabilities that will enable you to work smarter in solving your toughest characterization challenges.

Webinars Available On Demand  
 
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Edit: corrected the year error that was in the blurb. They sent me an invitation on 2016-01-11 for the webinar supposedly held at 2015-01-13, but really held in 2016. I'm not that tardy with opening e-mails 

[NotFuzzyWarm]

I'm goin to crack a deal with TSMC for their 16nm chips. So I just need some help making this asic cpu.

What chip from TSMC? Do you have any credentials or at least contacts in the semi business so they will even talk to you?

TSMC does not 'make chips' of their own design. They are a foundry that makes chips for other companies using those companies designs. Now if you have a chip design ready for simulation and perhaps ready for making test masks along with around 1million dollars to get their interest, then you are all set.

 Ohk! I thought they made processors on their own and I can buy it from them.

I thought that might be your confusion. Glad to help clear that point.
Your only source for new chips is to contact the foundries customers, eg. InnoSilicon, Bitmain, BitFury, etc. They are the ones to talk to about chip sales.

[Mr. Kashif]

There's this website called "Esillicon" which claims to give us a virtual interface where we can design our own chips with our own requirements and we can even produce it via well known foundries we have in the world with a tracker of our shipment as well as dedicated help.

[alh]

There's this website called "Esillicon" which claims to give us a virtual interface where we can design our own chips with our own requirements and we can even produce it via well known foundries we have in the world with a tracker of our shipment as well as dedicated help.

Let us know what they decide to charge for their services. I think you'll find the NRE (Non Recurring Expenses) to be quite intimidating to actually try and build your own miner, especially without any particular background in the of designing this kind of device.

[Mr. Kashif]

Well as a computer science engineering student I know a couple of stuff and for the rest I have a team of a Linux expert, my head of the department with a very good knowledge of chip design and circuitry, and me of course.


I'll try to give this thing a shot for serious and see where this takes me.

[alh]

Is you interest in designing a 16nm based ASIC miner as a commercial (i.e. for profit) enterprise, or something else? Are you doing this to actually produce and sell miners, or do you expect to "self mine" (i.e. build and run your own miners for purposes of BTC generation)?

Just curious.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Well as a computer science engineering student I know a couple of stuff and for the rest I have a team of a Linux expert, my head of the department with a very good knowledge of chip design and circuitry, and me of course.

I'll try to give this thing a shot for serious and see where this takes me.

Well sounds like a good start. The chip designer is a person who will be critical as I suspect that design site will be pushing you to use pre-packaged IP function blocks that are just linked together to create the desired chip functions. While that can work using pre-packaged IP also means that you will be making the signal connection paths based on what the IP block gives you - that in turn means non-optimal performance. Prime example of the difference custom routing gives you is Bitmains '1384 vs their '1385 chips. Same circuitry but by using custom routing in the '1385 function blocks themselves Bitmain drastically improved the power/hashing performance.