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January 30, 2016, 06:21:20 PM
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I don't understand why people are after his identity instead of enjoying the power of bitcoin. It's pointless.


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January 30, 2016, 06:30:05 PM
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I could envision a Polish dude well-versed in the English language still requiring a helping hand in clarifying the verbiage more betterer.

What is that ? Is it a kind of short whitepaper produced by Satoshi to explain quickly what Bitcoin is ?
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January 31, 2016, 12:28:14 PM
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http://www.aston.ac.uk/news/releases/2014/april/researchers-uncover-likely-author-of-original-bitcoin-paper/

first, they did the research on the wrong "original" paper! satoshi may have asked Nick Szabo to rewrite the paper.




I could envision a Polish dude well-versed in the English language still requiring a helping hand in clarifying the verbiage more betterer.


second, satoshi_main (code) may not be on the list of candidates in the article above. (my personal view he is not on the list)

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Dorian S. Nakamoto, Vili Lehdonvirta, Michael Clear, Shinichi Mochizuki, Gavin Andresen, Nick Szabo, Jed McCaleb, Dustin D. Trammel, Hal Finney, Wei Dai, and Neal King, Vladimir Oksman & Charles Bry.


third, if you ask somebody if he/she is satoshi he/she can easily deny it in case in the satoshi creation process were at least two persons involved. (following the distributed approach WE instead of ME)

e.g. satoshi_main (code), satoshi_2 (paper improvement peer), satoshi_3 (code improvement peer), satoshi_4 (public awareness establishing peer)


example where this happened to satoshi_2 (paper improvement peer):

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/business/decoding-the-enigma-of-satoshi-nakamoto-and-the-birth-of-bitcoin.html

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While he kept to himself, I managed to corner him in the kitchen during the cocktail hour. He was notably reserved and deflected questions about where he lived and had worked, but he bristled when I cited what was being said about him on the Internet — including that he was a law professor at George Washington University — and the notion that he had created Bitcoin.

“Well, I will say this, in the hope of setting the record straight,” he said acidly. “I’m not Satoshi, and I’m not a college professor. In fact, I never was a college professor.”

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January 31, 2016, 02:27:59 PM
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it would be awesome if nakamoto put a bounty on himself that anyone on this forum figured out who he is
he`ll give a decent amount of btc who ever find him.  the research is interesting, but im not done reading it yet im still at chapter 4.

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January 31, 2016, 04:00:07 PM
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I incresinlgly believe that we will never find who the really Satoshi is.
It's already the most interesting part of bitcoin mystical history.
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January 31, 2016, 04:02:37 PM
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Thank you very much for this research effort. The linking to the Polish researcher is very comprehensible. I am wondering why all these magazines (Wire, Newsweek aso) did not come to this conclusion. I am curious about new developments regarding the search and the confirmation of you research whether Pawel Pszona is Satoshi or not.

The biggest hurdle in finding Satoshi is lack of Digital evidence like IP address, Payment details, so on...

Satoshi's digitial foot prints either leads to anonymousspeech.com or TOR.  Both anonymous Smiley

Now everyone is struck with circumstantial evidence. When its circumstantial, anyone can be connected to Satoshi based on doubt.
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January 31, 2016, 04:23:42 PM
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Unlikely that an American would accidentally use UK spellings, but it is very likely that someone from the UK would just give up having to always correct forced American spellings.

Also - remember that reference to the 'Times' headline? It was a British newspaper.
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January 31, 2016, 05:01:32 PM
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I totally agree, he has every right to be anonymous.

But the man deserves to get credit for the greatest innovation of the century.

greatest innovation? have you heard about the internet?
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January 31, 2016, 05:05:59 PM
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You put some work into this so good job...but Maybe it is time to let go of determining the identity of the creator of  Bitcoin.  For a very specific reason, the creator/creators wanted adamantly NOT to be discovered - or at least at this time in history to be discovered. 

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January 31, 2016, 05:41:19 PM
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I totally agree, he has every right to be anonymous.

But the man deserves to get credit for the greatest innovation of the century.

greatest innovation? have you heard about the internet?

that was the previous century...
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January 31, 2016, 06:30:39 PM
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I totally agree, he has every right to be anonymous.

But the man deserves to get credit for the greatest innovation of the century.

greatest innovation? have you heard about the internet?

he extended the decentralized aspect of internet to a payment system, that for me is revolutionary enough
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January 31, 2016, 07:17:27 PM
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I agree with you, but there are still some news that may be debated by everyone. Cheesy

as far as I was thinking satoshi Nakamoto is a rich man because he has a lot of bitcoin.



He looks rich but He is not. All his wallets are Untouched and Unspent even now Smiley
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January 31, 2016, 07:25:30 PM
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I agree with you, but there are still some news that may be debated by everyone. Cheesy

as far as I was thinking satoshi Nakamoto is a rich man because he has a lot of bitcoin.



He looks rich but He is not. All his wallets are Untouched and Unspent even now Smiley
Its great to know about it that his wallet is still untouched and unspent till now, then how he earns for his daily needs.

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January 31, 2016, 07:27:33 PM
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You put some work into this so good job...but Maybe it is time to let go of determining the identity of the creator of  Bitcoin.  For a very specific reason, the creator/creators wanted adamantly NOT to be discovered - or at least at this time in history to be discovered.  

Expanding upon the tremendous works of others not practicing complete anonymity, Satoshi [Nakamoto] solved the double spending problem and established rules for the money supply of bitcoin, doing such from the get-go as a cloaked individual/entity. Why?

The dude who invented the paperclip base on metallurgy properties advanced by others didn't seem too concern about having his identity exposed (assuming we know who the dude is), with same true for tens of thousands of inventors advancing their inventions in all spaces.

There had to be a reason for creating and maintaining the enigma known as Satoshi Nakamoto.
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January 31, 2016, 07:37:31 PM
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Detailed research but doesn't really prove anything..it's a directionless and never-ending debate..

I don't understand why people are after his identity instead of enjoying the power of bitcoin. It's pointless.

I concur! Why are nation states funding the likes of NASA to explore the Cosmos when we could just sit back and enjoy its beauty every clear evening, then the moneys could be spent on more productive things like deeper swimming pools for bankers, or free lawn care for bankers, or banker conferences behind closed doors to discuss future closed door conferences attended only by bankers? Its pointless to for human nature to ask who, why, what, etc.
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January 31, 2016, 08:28:24 PM
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I agree with you, but there are still some news that may be debated by everyone. Cheesy

as far as I was thinking satoshi Nakamoto is a rich man because he has a lot of bitcoin.



He looks rich but He is not. All his wallets are Untouched and Unspent even now Smiley
Its great to know about it that his wallet is still untouched and unspent till now, then how he earns for his daily needs.

As many would claim, it was NEVER a ponzy scheme for him. He was more inclined towards the technology that could build Bitcoin. He never bothered to make money for himself. His unspent wallets speaks volumes about the man's integrity.

He wanted to be anonymous simply because he is not interested to get FAMOUS.
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January 31, 2016, 09:10:14 PM
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2010

Gavin Andresen and Satoshi Nakamoto joined the discussion in the Bitcointalk forum and supported the idea of BitDNS.

I think it would be possible for BitDNS to be a completely separate network and separate block chain, yet share CPU power with Bitcoin.  The only overlap is to make it so miners can search for proof-of-work for both networks simultaneously.

The networks wouldn't need any coordination.  Miners would subscribe to both networks in parallel.  They would scan SHA such that if they get a hit, they potentially solve both at once.  A solution may be for just one of the networks if one network has a lower difficulty.

I think an external miner could call getwork on both programs and combine the work.  Maybe call Bitcoin, get work from it, hand it to BitDNS getwork to combine into a combined work.

Instead of fragmentation, networks share and augment each other's total CPU power.  This would solve the problem that if there are multiple networks, they are a danger to each other if the available CPU power gangs up on one.  Instead, all networks in the world would share combined CPU power, increasing the total strength.  It would make it easier for small networks to get started by tapping into a ready base of miners.


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January 31, 2016, 10:55:30 PM
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Interesting. Your URL has just been flagged on Hacker News when Mike Hearn himself (!) explained why Bitcoin took off: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11008126 (archive: http://archive.is/BDaCM).

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The quality of these "unmaskings" has been getting lower over time.

The paper he cites from 2007 describes a system nothing like Bitcoin. Digital cash papers have been coming out every year for decades, it's always been a hot topic of research in the field of cryptography, since the days of Chaum. You could pick almost any time in any year and find some e-cash paper like that one.

The attempt to link the Satoshi Nakamoto name with random fragments of random authors in random citations of an essentially randomly chosen paper is ... especially entertaining.

The reasons Bitcoin took off despite a billion other crypto papers that also tried to crack the problem of digital cash are:

• Bitcoin was simple enough for non-cryptographers to understand: no advanced maths, almost certainly because Satoshi himself was not a professional or academically trained cryptographer.

• The unique monetary policy and coin distribution scheme that incentivised people to take part early on, and engaged people who weren't technologists but cared about monetary policy.

• Most importantly of all, Satoshi actually implemented his scheme in a downloadable app that was fairly easy to use. So people could try it out and get excited about it.

• Actually, truly P2P. Many e-cash schemes descended from Chaum's (and the 2007 paper is no different) assume a "central bank". Bitcoin was one of the only schemes that had literally no special nodes.
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January 31, 2016, 11:26:42 PM
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I am happy not to know who he really is. He created bitcoin based on anonymity and by being anonymous himself makes bitcoin even more interesting. We are all satoshi's children.

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January 31, 2016, 11:28:52 PM
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Agreed
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