Can you feel the Bern?

[Moloch]

Name me your favorite socialist country in the world. You can use google and wiki if you can't..

Off the top of my head, I'd go with Norway, Denmark, Sweden, and Switzerland

Basically social democracies... much like the USA

The USA is a A Constitutional Republic, not a social democracy, whatever that means to you...
http://madisonproject.com/2013/09/we-the-people-a-constitutional-republic-not-a-democracy/


What about venezuela? too socialist for you? Not enough freedom of speech?

It is funny you said Norway. It is a very small country with lots of oil. They are very rich.


I should have come to this thread more often. I like to educate people.

America is an oligarchy... corporations and billionaires hire lobbyist, who are the ones that actually write most of the laws (and buy the votes for them)... I hope you don't think Obama wrote that 20,000 page "Obama care" bill while he was president...

Did you know that not a single congressman read the 20,000 page bill before voting on it? (IIRC, they were only given the document, less than 24 hours before the vote)

Last year, the Koch brothers spent $900,000,000 buying new laws

ol·i·gar·chy
ˈäləˌɡärkē/
noun
noun: oligarchy; plural noun: oligarchies

    a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution.
    "the ruling oligarchy of military men around the president"
        a country governed by an oligarchy.
        "the English aristocratic oligarchy of the 19th century"
        government by oligarchy.

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[Spendulus]

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Name me your favorite socialist country in the world. You can use google and wiki if you can't..

Anyone who has not traveled cannot answer this question.  However, I can answer it easily.

My "favorite socialist country" is Australia.  They have a 60% tax rate for many people, but it takes 5 minutes to fill out their tax reporting form each year.  Lots of negatives to the country, sure.  Lots of negatives to the socialist side of things.

I truly dislike the mindless blather by people sprouting the Scandinavian countries as an answer to this question - basically they are repeating what someone wanted them to repeat.  The exception would be anyone who has lived there and can explain the "why."

[Wilikon]

Name me your favorite socialist country in the world. You can use google and wiki if you can't..

Off the top of my head, I'd go with Norway, Denmark, Sweden, and Switzerland

Basically social democracies... much like the USA

The USA is a A Constitutional Republic, not a social democracy, whatever that means to you...
http://madisonproject.com/2013/09/we-the-people-a-constitutional-republic-not-a-democracy/


What about venezuela? too socialist for you? Not enough freedom of speech?

It is funny you said Norway. It is a very small country with lots of oil. They are very rich.


I should have come to this thread more often. I like to educate people.

America is an oligarchy... corporations and billionaires hire lobbyist, who are the ones that actually write most of the laws (and buy the votes for them)... I hope you don't think Obama wrote that 20,000 page "Obama care" bill while he was president...

Did you know that not a single congressman read the 20,000 page bill before voting on it? (IIRC, they were only given the document, less than 24 hours before the vote)

Last year, the Koch brothers spent $900,000,000 buying new laws

ol·i·gar·chy
ˈäləˌɡärkē/
noun
noun: oligarchy; plural noun: oligarchies

    a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution.
    "the ruling oligarchy of military men around the president"
        a country governed by an oligarchy.
        "the English aristocratic oligarchy of the 19th century"
        government by oligarchy.

"Basically social democracies... much like the USA" But then... "America is an oligarchy..."

America is a... social democratic oligarchy then? What?

That is why barnie purple has so many friends on reddit. They always forgot the oligarchy on their side, with Sith Lord Soros, his fortune made by almost bankrupting England.
http://priceonomics.com/the-trade-of-the-century-when-george-soros-broke/

Lots of people lost everything. Yet you would still support someone like him because he is financing your cause?

I agree with you special interests are killing this wonderful experiment called the USA. That's human nature, and Nature loves to turn everything into rust. That is why, people like you see this as a problem and want to do something about it. I love your enthusiasm, that is why you will love supporting TRUMP soon...

 

[Moloch]

"Basically social democracies... much like the USA"[/i] But then... "America is an oligarchy..."

America is a... social democratic oligarchy then? What?

That is why barnie purple has so many friends on reddit. They always forgot the oligarchy on their side, with Sith Lord Soros, his fortune made by almost bankrupting England.
http://priceonomics.com/the-trade-of-the-century-when-george-soros-broke/

Lots of people lost everything. Yet you would still support someone like him because he is financing your cause?

I agree with you special interests are killing this wonderful experiment called the USA. That's human nature, and Nature loves to turn everything into rust. That is why, people like you see this as a problem and want to do something about it. I love your enthusiasm, that is why you will love supporting TRUMP soon...

Why can't it be both a social democracy and an oligarchy?  Are the terms mutually exclusive?

Really, it's hardly a democracy... more like a social republic, with laws written by the oligarchy

If Trump actually understood politics I wouldn't have a problem voting for him, but time after time, he proves he doesn't get it

Bernie has several policies I agree with... and Trump... doesn't have policies... other than building a wall and killing Muslims with bullets dipped in pig's blood...

[Wilikon]

"Basically social democracies... much like the USA"[/i] But then... "America is an oligarchy..."

America is a... social democratic oligarchy then? What?

That is why barnie purple has so many friends on reddit. They always forgot the oligarchy on their side, with Sith Lord Soros, his fortune made by almost bankrupting England.
http://priceonomics.com/the-trade-of-the-century-when-george-soros-broke/

Lots of people lost everything. Yet you would still support someone like him because he is financing your cause?

I agree with you special interests are killing this wonderful experiment called the USA. That's human nature, and Nature loves to turn everything into rust. That is why, people like you see this as a problem and want to do something about it. I love your enthusiasm, that is why you will love supporting TRUMP soon...

Why can't it be both a social democracy and an oligarchy?  Are the terms mutually exclusive?

Really, it's hardly a democracy... more like a social republic, with laws written by the oligarchy

If Trump actually understood politics I wouldn't have a problem voting for him, but time after time, he proves he doesn't get it

Bernie has several policies I agree with... and Trump... doesn't have policies... other than building a wall and killing Muslims with bullets dipped in pig's blood...

Sounds more like a phantasm than what TRUMP ever said... I have to say, you have a very vivid imagination, and brave enough to share it with us all. Every single muslim on bitcointalk knows TRUMP never said that. Muslims (not all) can hate TRUMP but they surely can see right through your deep desire...


Love. Not hate.

 

[Moloch]

"Basically social democracies... much like the USA"[/i] But then... "America is an oligarchy..."

America is a... social democratic oligarchy then? What?

That is why barnie purple has so many friends on reddit. They always forgot the oligarchy on their side, with Sith Lord Soros, his fortune made by almost bankrupting England.
http://priceonomics.com/the-trade-of-the-century-when-george-soros-broke/

Lots of people lost everything. Yet you would still support someone like him because he is financing your cause?

I agree with you special interests are killing this wonderful experiment called the USA. That's human nature, and Nature loves to turn everything into rust. That is why, people like you see this as a problem and want to do something about it. I love your enthusiasm, that is why you will love supporting TRUMP soon...

Why can't it be both a social democracy and an oligarchy?  Are the terms mutually exclusive?

Really, it's hardly a democracy... more like a social republic, with laws written by the oligarchy

If Trump actually understood politics I wouldn't have a problem voting for him, but time after time, he proves he doesn't get it

Bernie has several policies I agree with... and Trump... doesn't have policies... other than building a wall and killing Muslims with bullets dipped in pig's blood...

Sounds more like a phantasm than what TRUMP ever said... I have to say, you have a very vivid imagination, and brave enough to share it with us all. Every single muslim on bitcointalk knows TRUMP never said that. Muslims (not all) can hate TRUMP but they surely can see right through your deep desire...


Love. Not hate.

Trump didn't say what?  Did you miss the video?

Trump wants to kill Muslims with pig blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iPQvVE1gmM

[Spendulus]

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Trump didn't say what?  Did you miss the video?

Trump wants to kill Muslims with pig blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iPQvVE1gmM

If the "Young Turks" say it, it's nothing but propaganda.

Try for some better sources please.

[Wilikon]

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Trump didn't say what?  Did you miss the video?

Trump wants to kill Muslims with pig blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iPQvVE1gmM

If the "Young Turks" say it, it's nothing but propaganda.

Try for some better sources please.

The OP does not see all the effort we make to help his little thread keep up with the rest, but we can do so much... The rest is up to the OP, if he/she/it/ understands the concept.

 

[Wilikon]

Feds Flag Bernie Sanders For Illegal Political Contributions

Thousands of contributions to Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’ campaign in January violated federal campaign finance laws, election regulators said on Thursday.

The Federal Election Commission sent a letter to the Democratic presidential candidate’s campaign committee on Thursday with a 90-page spreadsheet listing 3,457 “excessive, prohibited, and impermissible contributions.”

The campaign’s January financial disclosure filing listed contributions from foreign nationals and unregistered political committees, the FEC said. Other contributions came from donors who exceeded the $2,700 per-election limit.

“Although the Commission may take further legal action concerning the acceptance of [excessive or prohibited] contributions, your prompt action to refund the prohibited amount will be taken into consideration,” the FEC told the campaign.


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Let us pray for barnie purple, all his supporters and their illegal contributions... But this is what you get when the harpy clinton machine starts its killing process.

 

[Moloch]

Bernie has several policies I agree with... and Trump... doesn't have policies... other than building a wall and killing Muslims with bullets dipped in pig's blood...

Sounds more like a phantasm than what TRUMP ever said... I have to say, you have a very vivid imagination, and brave enough to share it with us all. Every single muslim on bitcointalk knows TRUMP never said that. Muslims (not all) can hate TRUMP but they surely can see right through your deep desire...

Trump didn't say what?  Did you miss the video?

Trump wants to kill Muslims with pig blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iPQvVE1gmM

If the "Young Turks" say it, it's nothing but propaganda.

Try for some better sources please.

It's a shame you are incapable of watching a video... Trump says it in the video... with his own mouth even... watch the fucking video you twat

[Wilikon]

 

[bryant.coleman]

It's a shame you are incapable of watching a video... Trump says it in the video... with his own mouth even... watch the fucking video you twat

I watched the video. And Spendulus is 100% right and you are wrong.

This is what Trump said: General Pershing killed 49 terrorists with bullets dipped in pig's blood. He asked the 50th terrorist to go back to his people, and tell what happened to the rest of them.

Nowhere in that video he says that he want to kill Muslims with pig blood. And he never refers to "Muslims". I didn't heard him saying the word "Muslim" a single time in that video.

I know that you'll contradict me. That is why I am posing the entire conversation below:

00:00:42,770 --> 00:00:46,710
YOU KNOW, I READ A STORY, IT'S
A TERRIBLE STORY BUT I WILL TELL

00:00:46,710 --> 00:00:47,760
YOU. SHOULD I TELL YOU OR SHOULD

00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:55,420
I NOT? EARLY IN THE CENTURY,
LAST CENTURY, GENERAL PERSHING,

00:00:55,420 --> 00:00:59,710
ROUGH GUY. AND THEY HAD A
TERRORISM PROBLEM, AND THERE IS

00:00:59,710 --> 00:01:03,380
A WHOLE THING WITH SWINE AND
ANIMALS AND PIGS. YOU KNOW THE

00:01:03,380 --> 00:01:07,170
STORY, THEY DON'T LIKE THAT.
THEY WERE HAVING A TREMENDOUS

00:01:07,170 --> 00:01:10,49
PROBLEM WITH TERRORISM, AND THIS
IS SOMETHING YOU CAN READ IN

00:01:10,49 --> 00:01:12,189
HISTORY BOOKS, NOT A LOT OF
THEM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE

00:01:12,189 --> 00:01:14,29
TEACHING THIS, AND GENERAL

00:01:14,30 --> 00:01:18,520
PERSHING WAS A ROUGH GUY. HE
SITS ON HIS HORSE, VERY ASTUTE,

00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:25,170
LIKE A RAMROD. THE YEAR WAS
EARLY 1900S, AND THIS WAS A

00:01:25,170 --> 00:01:27,170
TERRIBLE PROBLEM, THEY WERE
HAVING TERRORISM PROBLEMS JUST

00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:31,639
LIKE WE DO. AND HE CAUGHT 50
TERRORISTS WHO DID TREMENDOUS

00:01:31,639 --> 00:01:35,839
DAMAGE AND KILLED MANY PEOPLE,
AND HE TOOK THE 50 TERRORISTS

00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,729
AND TOOK 50 MEN AND DIPPED 50

00:01:38,729 --> 00:01:45,740
BULLETS IN PIGS BLOOD. YOU HEARD
THAT, RIGHT? HE TOOK 50 BULLETS

00:01:45,740 --> 00:01:53,79
AND HE DIPPED THEM IN PIGS
BLOOD. AND HE HAD HIS MEN LOAD

00:01:53,79 --> 00:01:56,729
RIFLES, AND HE LINED UP TO 50

00:01:56,729 --> 00:02:01,899
PEOPLE, AND THEY SHOT 49 OF
THOSE PEOPLE, AND THE 50TH

00:02:01,899 --> 00:02:04,229
PERSON, HE SAID YOU GO BACK TO

00:02:04,229 --> 00:02:10,340
YOUR PEOPLE AND YOU TELL THEM
WHAT HAPPENED. AND FOR 25 YEARS,

00:02:10,340 --> 00:02:16,220
THERE WAS NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY?
25 YEARS, THERE WASN'T A

00:02:16,220 --> 00:02:23,70
PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT? SO WE HAD
BETTER START GETTING TOUGH, AND

00:02:23,70 --> 00:02:25,650
WE HAD BETTER START GETTING
VIGILANT, AND WE HAD BETTER

00:02:25,650 --> 00:02:29,200
START USING OUR HEADS, OR WE
WILL NOT HAVE A COUNTRY, FOLKS.

[Wilikon]

It's a shame you are incapable of watching a video... Trump says it in the video... with his own mouth even... watch the fucking video you twat

I watched the video. And Spendulus is 100% right and you are wrong.

This is what Trump said: General Pershing killed 49 terrorists with bullets dipped in pig's blood. He asked the 50th terrorist to go back to his people, and tell what happened to the rest of them.

Nowhere in that video he says that he want to kill Muslims with pig blood. And he never refers to "Muslims". I didn't heard him saying the word "Muslim" a single time in that video.

I know that you'll contradict me. That is why I am posing the entire conversation below:

00:00:42,770 --> 00:00:46,710
YOU KNOW, I READ A STORY, IT'S
A TERRIBLE STORY BUT I WILL TELL

00:00:46,710 --> 00:00:47,760
YOU. SHOULD I TELL YOU OR SHOULD

00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:55,420
I NOT? EARLY IN THE CENTURY,
LAST CENTURY, GENERAL PERSHING,

00:00:55,420 --> 00:00:59,710
ROUGH GUY. AND THEY HAD A
TERRORISM PROBLEM, AND THERE IS

00:00:59,710 --> 00:01:03,380
A WHOLE THING WITH SWINE AND
ANIMALS AND PIGS. YOU KNOW THE

00:01:03,380 --> 00:01:07,170
STORY, THEY DON'T LIKE THAT.
THEY WERE HAVING A TREMENDOUS

00:01:07,170 --> 00:01:10,49
PROBLEM WITH TERRORISM, AND THIS
IS SOMETHING YOU CAN READ IN

00:01:10,49 --> 00:01:12,189
HISTORY BOOKS, NOT A LOT OF
THEM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE

00:01:12,189 --> 00:01:14,29
TEACHING THIS, AND GENERAL

00:01:14,30 --> 00:01:18,520
PERSHING WAS A ROUGH GUY. HE
SITS ON HIS HORSE, VERY ASTUTE,

00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:25,170
LIKE A RAMROD. THE YEAR WAS
EARLY 1900S, AND THIS WAS A

00:01:25,170 --> 00:01:27,170
TERRIBLE PROBLEM, THEY WERE
HAVING TERRORISM PROBLEMS JUST

00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:31,639
LIKE WE DO. AND HE CAUGHT 50
TERRORISTS WHO DID TREMENDOUS

00:01:31,639 --> 00:01:35,839
DAMAGE AND KILLED MANY PEOPLE,
AND HE TOOK THE 50 TERRORISTS

00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,729
AND TOOK 50 MEN AND DIPPED 50

00:01:38,729 --> 00:01:45,740
BULLETS IN PIGS BLOOD. YOU HEARD
THAT, RIGHT? HE TOOK 50 BULLETS

00:01:45,740 --> 00:01:53,79
AND HE DIPPED THEM IN PIGS
BLOOD. AND HE HAD HIS MEN LOAD

00:01:53,79 --> 00:01:56,729
RIFLES, AND HE LINED UP TO 50

00:01:56,729 --> 00:02:01,899
PEOPLE, AND THEY SHOT 49 OF
THOSE PEOPLE, AND THE 50TH

00:02:01,899 --> 00:02:04,229
PERSON, HE SAID YOU GO BACK TO

00:02:04,229 --> 00:02:10,340
YOUR PEOPLE AND YOU TELL THEM
WHAT HAPPENED. AND FOR 25 YEARS,

00:02:10,340 --> 00:02:16,220
THERE WAS NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY?
25 YEARS, THERE WASN'T A

00:02:16,220 --> 00:02:23,70
PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT? SO WE HAD
BETTER START GETTING TOUGH, AND

00:02:23,70 --> 00:02:25,650
WE HAD BETTER START GETTING
VIGILANT, AND WE HAD BETTER

00:02:25,650 --> 00:02:29,200
START USING OUR HEADS, OR WE
WILL NOT HAVE A COUNTRY, FOLKS.

This bernie sanders supporter, the OP, must be new to the game. But we are here to help him/her/it.

 

[Wilikon]

Smart bunch.

[Lethn]

Wilikon, their kind of logic is exactly why I wouldn't mind seeing Bernie get elected, think of how fast the economy would crash and cause Bitcoin to rise

[Wilikon]

Wilikon, their kind of logic is exactly why I wouldn't mind seeing Bernie get elected, think of how fast the economy would crash and cause Bitcoin to rise

Yes. That is logical. Also TRUMP may not be pro-bitcoin, so it would make a lot of sense to have sanders as president instead.

The thing is, you still need enough people working real jobs, but not working for wall street, not working for the government, to pay their electric bill to keep enough bitcoin nodes alive for the network to be strong. Unless president sanders would pass a law letting people pay with their EBT card?

Amazon, google, microsoft could take care of the network for us instead, with exclusive sanders government contracts?

It is time for me to unlearn everything, stop reading books and other useless stuff, activate my facebook, reddit, instagram accounts and vote for bernie. I can feel the bern now... I do feel it. Time for Preparation H

 

[bryant.coleman]

Wilikon, their kind of logic is exactly why I wouldn't mind seeing Bernie get elected, think of how fast the economy would crash and cause Bitcoin to rise

Don't be in the self-destructive mode. An economic meltdown will not do any good for bitcoin. If that happens, then people will convert their assets to risk-free forms of wealth such as bullion and diamonds. High-risk investments such as Bitcoin will find few takers. This is exactly what happened in countries such as Greece and Cyprus.

[Wilikon]

[Nxtblg]

Are you starting to feel the Bern?

Well, I did - in a way - but the predictions markets certainly aren't.

I guess the locked-up superdelegates and other locky-thingies will win in the end.

[Wilikon]

Are you starting to feel the Bern?

Well, I did - in a way - but the predictions markets certainly aren't.

I guess the locked-up superdelegates and other locky-thingies will win in the end.

The bernie supporters, the children they are, were not told how the game is played. They were (and still are) wasting their energy and $$ attacking TRUMP now, instead of attacking clinton now.