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April 15, 2016, 06:03:25 PM
Last edit: April 15, 2016, 06:15:00 PM by FallingKnife
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Not on the wallet yet.  But here is some UNO/Cryptsy news:
Yeah, that's what I was going to say, they will pay these guys $400/hour each out of the Cryptsy money, not government money.
If Paul Vernon actually had a couple million of his own money left, that will pay for the lawyers and receivers and liquid capital that was of the company.

$400/hour is not a lot, it's about the hourly going rate of a mid range decent attorney these days. If you've been to court like me, you've easily paid a lawyer $300-400 an hour.
That money will be locked up for quite a while, if Vernon doesn't have the privkeys to "hack" the UNO as well. You never know, once the price gets too sweet for him with his Chinese girlfriend he may need to cash out coins he can reach to stay on the lam.

As for the Protanium/testnet discussion: Yes, it's true the testnet could need an entire reset at any time should there need to be some heavy testing on it. I thought everyone was aware of that, it being a testnet, but I can so how that would piss people off if they had money involved. Yes, inherently a testnet should actually have no value. If you try to monetize BTCs testnet, they just reset it on purpose.

For anyone unaware.  Camp UNO is divided on Protanium/testnet, some like, some love, and some hate.

Someone more technical (likely only the creator) needs to clarify the possibility/outcome of a UNO testnet reset.  I think the easiest solution is just make another /testnet directory, but I can neither confirm nor deny if that is possible. (Depends on the bitcoin core code).

I would also suggest a snap shot, then untie from the uno/testnet, but that is a hardfork option.  But would end the 'testnet' debate.

First things first ... getting a wallet that syncs ... stay tuned.

Please remember that PR is and was a testnet Wink

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Re UNO Testnet/PR - worst that happens is that it gets reset in a future wallet, and you can no longer access your Testnet3/PR through the UNO wallet.  

You'd use the PR client instead.   If he ever needs a Uno testnet because he can't work on PR, BW will create a genesis block for a new testnet and compile a new client. Testnet3/PR has long run off down the road as its own thing. It won't simply evaporate by resetting it, because there is a network and nodes that have arrived at consensus... they won't just immediately wipe out the entire blockchain and sync to block 1 of testnet4.  You'd have to take down the entire network (which admittedly, might not be too difficult).

Anyway... its not a big deal to me. Its just another piece of UNO's interesting history.  

I hope someone is writing all these adventures down. I'd be the first to buy the book, "The Unabridged History of Unobtanium." Chapter 26:  Prototanium.

Well FallingKnife, it doesn't actually work like that. Once you reset the blockchain, you reset it all the way. Meaning, everyone who had PRO coins would all have 0 balance, back to block one. So, anyone that puts money into it, or trades it, loses all they had no matter what once the blockchain has been reset. And yes, that really is the point of the testnet, to just wipe it and start over if need be, not that it has been recently reset, but with testing and development it will need to be reset.

To really clarify the best I can: Yes, it does all simply evaporate by resetting it. Yes, there are nodes, they would all start from block 1 again. If you wanted to keep the coins and preserve the blockchain, you'd need to fork the testnet again and then it's no longer UNOs testnet, it becomes Prototanium as an entire new coin. In effect, that does actually just create another cloned premined coin as well. So, not a good idea at all.


To really clarify the best I can: Yes, it does all simply evaporate by resetting it. Yes, there are nodes, they would all start from block 1 again. If you wanted to keep the coins and preserve the blockchain, you'd need to fork the testnet again and then it's no longer UNOs testnet, it becomes Prototanium as an entire new coin. In effect, that does actually just create another cloned premined coin as well. So, not a good idea at all.


There's no need to fork PR.  If UNO devs decide they need a new testnet, they will "fork" testnet, and PR will just go on living as it has.  Cryptapus settled that debate.  

Just a quick wallet update: I paid a dev to build us new Windows wallets.  He did (or at least he seemed to) and everything looked good at first, but then we discovered that a sync problem remained. It seems to have something to do with checkpoints.
So far the dev has not sent updated wallets resolving that issue. I have no futher information.

If nothing is heard soon, I will repost my bounty for working PR windows wallets.

My main interest in saving PR was to try and cleanup a few of the problems for Cryptopia, who took the coin in good faith. They received unfair criticism when the blockchain stalled and people were unable to move their coins.  I've spent about a bitcoin so far (and plenty of hours) trying to keep it up. I am hopeful that a dev with a reputation will stepforward to shepherd PR into the future. 

UNO faced similiar issues in early 2014. A strong community formed around UNO and kept it going. I think that is what will be required for PR to succeed.

The PR network has been restored. We have nodes, a mining pool, an explorer, an exchange.  A working Windows wallet would be a big help right now, as would a reliable dev who could just keep an eye on PR and occassionally provide updates for wallet security. I don't think it would require a huge amount of time.  If a dev looking to make a good name for him/herself sees an active community and a coin that isn't broken beyond repair (which PR is not), they might step in and help out.

Things you can do help:
Run a node if you can
Go to miningrigrentals.com and rent a little hash (1tb or less) and point it at wmikrut.com pool.
Trade PR on Cryptopia, help make a market. Preferrably the UNO market Smiley
Use your contacts to help PR locate a reliable, trustworthy dev
Be patient
Help out wherever you can. You are PR now.


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April 15, 2016, 07:02:22 PM
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If UNO devs decide they need a new testnet, they will "fork" testnet, and PR will just go on living as it has.  Cryptapus settled that debate.  

debate over

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okay windows client SOL
but network is up and mining

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meantime get funds for a dev Wink


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April 16, 2016, 01:41:26 PM
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ya,.i think all trader waiting news too from here,.after all fixed then we can request to another exchange to be added

bloombit,safecex and ccex maybe can be considered for start  Wink

Do ask you like.  More exchanges, more better.  But i'd prefer we clear the above debate, fork PR then seek another exchange (just makes it easier to successfully fork).

debate ? what for

to make the price down in the market ?..lol
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April 17, 2016, 11:21:52 AM
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freemarket.
i still like PR, but until we can aquire dev, it will likely remain an eclectic non-windows friendly kind of coin.
again, test net it is and always was.

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April 20, 2016, 02:18:17 AM
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is there any news
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yes.  we will likely fork off the -testnet.
with windows wallet sync issue. no. no news.
still minable. works with linux wallets.
still trades. imo.  nothing will happen fast.
the network works, best to get a good dev attached to the project, plan a fork, then fork.

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NOW 0.125 PR per BLOCk  Grin

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April 23, 2016, 01:45:48 AM
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I am again offering 2000 PR for a working Windows wallet.

Must find nodes
Sync the entire block chain
be from a reasonably trusted dev

I don't think the other guy I paid will come through. I haven't heard anything and it seems to drag on and on, so lets try again.

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I am again offering 2000 PR for a working Windows wallet.

Must find nodes
Sync the entire block chain
be from a reasonably trusted dev

I don't think the other guy I paid will come through. I haven't heard anything and it seems to drag on and on, so lets try again.

maybe we can collecting a donation to pay someone with btc if in PR i dont know they want to help us or not

maybe someone like @Igotspot from digicube, @presstab from HYPcoin @DZimbeck :bitbay..i know them when in one community/forum thread

they are people who can be relied
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I am again offering 2000 PR for a working Windows wallet.

Must find nodes
Sync the entire block chain
be from a reasonably trusted dev

I don't think the other guy I paid will come through. I haven't heard anything and it seems to drag on and on, so lets try again.
Any idea how to fix wallet win ?

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May 01, 2016, 04:50:15 AM
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recently i just tried contacting Presstab the dev of hyperstake / HYP to help our issues

hope i can get the respons from him

i'm not sure he is willing to help or not,but i know he can be relied



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May 01, 2016, 06:02:21 AM
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Presstab is a known dev for POS algos
PRo is SHA256 AuxPow.

No harm in asking, if he is up for the task, why not (if we can afford him) Wink

In all honesty I don't think it is a major bug, because it was working prior, and is based on working code.
But it will take someone who eats C++ for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

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May 01, 2016, 06:21:47 AM
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what happened with the last cat that got involved?
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I don't think the other guy I paid will come through. I haven't heard anything and it seems to drag on and on, so lets try again.
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May 03, 2016, 11:18:21 PM
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If you guys know anyone trustworthy and reliable, I'll toss .1 btc at it.

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If you guys know anyone trustworthy and reliable, I'll toss .1 btc at it.

I'll match that but only when the work is completed & fully functional
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Fixed wallet  Huh still no sync  Angry

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May 09, 2016, 10:14:24 PM
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I received a new wallet build over the weekend, but it didn't pass sync test. I provided the feedback. I'm glad the dev is still working on it, and hopefully he'll have one soon that works as needed. 

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I received a new wallet build over the weekend, but it didn't pass sync test. I provided the feedback. I'm glad the dev is still working on it, and hopefully he'll have one soon that works as needed. 

Nice info , waiting for PR Fix wallet Smiley

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May 10, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
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Is the Prototanium (Windows) Wallet v0.10.1.12 not functional still ?


I've just performed a linux kernel update for the node at 69.28.82.86:65525 and it is running stable with 10+ connections.

I noticed that the new 'seednode' listed in the OP has 0 connections : https://bitnodes.net/node/109-235-69-248/   Huh

Anyhow, my node has been running fine for months. It was compiled from this source:

- https://github.com/Prototanium/Pr - which is:     "version" : 100102,


I don't have an up-to-date build environment for windows, currently - unsure what the real issue is here though as this windows build should be straightforward enough, right ?

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