Why do Christians hate Atheists?

[Moloch]

...
Cause and effect are not something that control Him. They are simply used by Him. He is outside of them.

And the proof of that is where?  I'm waiting...

Just show us mathematically or empirically (good luck with that one) that God is outside of the "cause and effect".

You are just pulling these assertions straight out of your ass, aren't you?

PS. Please don't say it is in the Bible...Or that some smart psychic told you.

Too funny... I accused BADecker of pulling assertions, "straight out of his ass", within 2 minutes of your post (in another thread)

...This means that science proves that God exists. I don't prove that God exists. The scientific laws do.

Why don't you post a link to your source for science proving that God exists?

When I google, "theory of God", I see no such result... I only find articles contradicting your statement, like:
http://www.cnet.com/news/stephen-hawking-makes-it-clear-there-is-no-god/

Hawking now explained: "What I meant by 'we would know the mind of God' is, we would know everything that God would know, if there were a God. Which there isn't. I'm an atheist."

He added: "Religion believes in miracles, but these aren't compatible with science."

If that's the only way you do your research, you might as well forget it and go to bed or something.

I didn't expect a religitard like you to actually post a link to a source... probably because no source would/could ever back up your claim that science has proven God exists...

If you cannot provide a source, the obvious conclusion is that you pulled the claim straight out of your ass


How do you do your research if not via Google?  I'm curious now... what am I doing wrong?

Somehow I only seem to find articles that agree with consensus reality, not your fantasy land claims

[BADecker]

...

Cause and effect are not something that control Him. They are simply used by Him. He is outside of them.

And the proof of that is where?  I'm waiting...

Just show us mathematically or empirically (good luck with that one) that God is outside of the "cause and effect".

You are just pulling these assertions straight out of your ass, aren't you?

PS. Please don't say it is in the Bible...Or that some smart psychic told you.

I explained it already. You ignored it. Why should I explain it again?

However, it isn't that important. Why not? Because nobody has the answer to where the Big Bang came from. Lots of ideas, maybe. Nothing except speculation. However, that's all that could exist regarding where the Big Bang came from. Because the Big Bang is simply some silly speculation in its entirety.

[clangtrump]

As an atheist from a christian school, i think it's because the perspective do not jive and both parties are sometimes judgmental to each. And if i ask christians they always answer it with blank reasons.

[BADecker]

As an atheist from a christian school, i think it's because the perspective do not jive and both parties are sometimes judgmental to each. And if i ask christians they always answer it with blank reasons.

Yes, it is kinda sad that the churches didn't explain the answers clearly. But would the atheists have accepted the answers if the Christians had them?

Now days you can Google search for Christian points on lots of scientific questions. One of the easiest places to go to see that atheism is wrong, scientifically, is to watch the Illustra videos at https://www.youtube.com/user/IllustraMedia.

[Moloch]

Yes, it is kinda sad that the churches didn't explain the answers clearly. But would the atheists have accepted the answers if the Christians had them?

Now days you can Google search for Christian points on lots of scientific questions. One of the easiest places to go to see that atheism is wrong, scientifically, is to watch the Illustra videos at https://www.youtube.com/user/IllustraMedia.

Or you could watch videos from people who actually understand what they are talking about...

For example, AronRa (Texas state director for American Atheists) posted this video just 9 hours ago... detailing exactly how Christians twist the words of Charles Darwin to suit their own agenda:
Correcting Darwin's Critics

He also has a continuing series on Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism

Another fun series of his, Refuting the Irrefutable Proof of God, utterly annihilates the best 'proof of God' that Christians can think up...

If that ain't enough, he also does science education videos, like Intro to Photosynthesis and Organelles and Homeostasis

[BADecker]

Yes, it is kinda sad that the churches didn't explain the answers clearly. But would the atheists have accepted the answers if the Christians had them?

Now days you can Google search for Christian points on lots of scientific questions. One of the easiest places to go to see that atheism is wrong, scientifically, is to watch the Illustra videos at https://www.youtube.com/user/IllustraMedia.

Or you could watch videos from people who actually understand what they are talking about...

For example, AronRa (Texas state director for American Atheists) posted this video just 9 hours ago... detailing exactly how Christians twist the words of Charles Darwin to suit their own agenda:
Correcting Darwin's Critics

Hey, man. The scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy aren't twisted by believers in God. They are twisted by the atheists.

[Moloch]

Or you could watch videos from people who actually understand what they are talking about...

For example, AronRa (Texas state director for American Atheists) posted this video just 9 hours ago... detailing exactly how Christians twist the words of Charles Darwin to suit their own agenda:
Correcting Darwin's Critics

Hey, man. The scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy aren't twisted by believers in God. They are twisted by the atheists.

If you bothered to watch the video you are responding to, you would see exactly what I am referring to... this is proven fact, not speculation like everything you post

[BADecker]

Or you could watch videos from people who actually understand what they are talking about...

For example, AronRa (Texas state director for American Atheists) posted this video just 9 hours ago... detailing exactly how Christians twist the words of Charles Darwin to suit their own agenda:
Correcting Darwin's Critics

Hey, man. The scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy aren't twisted by believers in God. They are twisted by the atheists.

If you bothered to watch the video you are responding to, you would see exactly what I am referring to... this is proven fact, not speculation like everything you post

Universal cause and effect throws Darwin right out the window. Why? Cause and effect allows no random. No random completely destroys Darwin, because the only way things can happen Darwin's way, is if there is randomness.

The only reason probability exists is to fill the gaps of human weakness. People can't measure everything. So, to help them with their measurements, they have developed a thing called probability. In reality, probability does not exist.

Everything that exists, exists precisely according to whatever causal laws and actions made them exist. This is standard science. The probability of quantum, and Darwinism, shows that both of them belong to a virtual world.

Both exist. They exist virtually, not in reality.



EDIT: Btw, your video is simply some joker talking about some things he seems to believe. No proof is offered for or against Darwinism.

[Moloch]

EDIT: Btw, your video is simply some joker talking about some things he seems to believe. No proof is offered for or against Darwinism.

You clearly did not watch the video... please stop pretending you did... I believe the bible says you are not supposed to lie, correct?

I never said it offered proof for or against Darwinism... I said he details exactly how Christians twist the words of Darwin to imply something that Darwin did not intend

Specifically, Christians will quote:

To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree

But they always neglect to put the quote in context...

To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree. When it was first said that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox populi, vox Dei, as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in science. Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself originated; but I may remark that, as some of the lowest organisms, in which nerves cannot be detected, are capable of perceiving light, it does not seem impossible that certain sensitive elements in their sarcode should become aggregated and developed into nerves, endowed with this special sensibility.

[BADecker]

EDIT: Btw, your video is simply some joker talking about some things he seems to believe. No proof is offered for or against Darwinism.

You clearly did not watch the video... please stop pretending you did... I believe the bible says you are not supposed to lie, correct?

I never said it offered proof for or against Darwinism... I said he details exactly how Christians twist the words of Darwin to imply something that Darwin did not intend

I expect that everybody twists something sometime. What does that have to do with anything that we were discussing?

Proof for the existence of God is found in the 3 scientific laws:
1. cause and effect;
2. complex universe;
3. universal entropy.

If you can't figure out how it works, look at some of my previous posts where I explain it.

To recap, the existence of God is scientific law.

[Moloch]

Proof for the existence of God is found in the 3 scientific laws:
1. cause and effect;
2. complex universe;
3. universal entropy.

No matter how many times you state this nonsense, it will never make it true

If you actually want to convince someone that you are correct, you must elaborate with supporting evidence, sources, examples, etc... otherwise you are simply a troll repeating bullshit that you pulled out of your ass

[BADecker]

Proof for the existence of God is found in the 3 scientific laws:
1. cause and effect;
2. complex universe;
3. universal entropy.

No matter how many times you state this nonsense, it will never make it true

If you actually want to convince someone that you are correct, you must elaborate with supporting evidence, sources, examples, etc... otherwise you are simply a troll repeating bullshit that you pulled out of your ass

I don't particularly care that you are convinced of anything. It's a whole lot easier for me to not spend time explaining things. I did it for your benefit and for the benefit of others who read it.

Thanks for letting me know that you don't like the truth, at least in some ways.

[craked5]

EDIT: Btw, your video is simply some joker talking about some things he seems to believe. No proof is offered for or against Darwinism.

You clearly did not watch the video... please stop pretending you did... I believe the bible says you are not supposed to lie, correct?

I never said it offered proof for or against Darwinism... I said he details exactly how Christians twist the words of Darwin to imply something that Darwin did not intend

I expect that everybody twists something sometime. What does that have to do with anything that we were discussing?

Proof for the existence of God is found in the 3 scientific laws:
1. cause and effect;
2. complex universe;
3. universal entropy.

If you can't figure out how it works, look at some of my previous posts where I explain it.

To recap, the existence of God is scientific law.

It's not because you post it again and again that it's true...

[yugo23]

EDIT: Btw, your video is simply some joker talking about some things he seems to believe. No proof is offered for or against Darwinism.

You clearly did not watch the video... please stop pretending you did... I believe the bible says you are not supposed to lie, correct?

I never said it offered proof for or against Darwinism... I said he details exactly how Christians twist the words of Darwin to imply something that Darwin did not intend

I expect that everybody twists something sometime. What does that have to do with anything that we were discussing?

Proof for the existence of God is found in the 3 scientific laws:
1. cause and effect;
2. complex universe;
3. universal entropy.

If you can't figure out how it works, look at some of my previous posts where I explain it.

To recap, the existence of God is scientific law.

Not sure the quote is true, but it suits well the moment.

[mrflibblehat]

Proof for the existence of God is found in the 3 scientific laws:
1. cause and effect;
2. complex universe;
3. universal entropy.

He did repost those things for the n'teenth time. It must be true. I mean, he wouldn't repeat himself if it wasn't, would he?

[yugo23]

He did repost those things for the n'teenth time. It must be true. I mean, he wouldn't repeat himself if it wasn't, would he?

naaaaaaaaaaah how could he?

The worst is that even the statements in themselves are not really true...

[mrflibblehat]

He did repost those things for the n'teenth time. It must be true. I mean, he wouldn't repeat himself if it wasn't, would he?

naaaaaaaaaaah how could he?

The worst is that even the statements in themselves are not really true...

I don't think you should talk like that bud. He might just talk to the right person and get you smitten by lightning or something.

[valta4065]

I don't think you should talk like that bud. He might just talk to the right person and get you smitten by lightning or something.

You know it's something that should exactly prove the existence of God.

I claim here and now: if God exists then he shall do something exceptionnal enough to make me have faith in him!

[mrflibblehat]

I don't think you should talk like that bud. He might just talk to the right person and get you smitten by lightning or something.

You know it's something that should exactly prove the existence of God.

I claim here and now: if God exists then he shall do something exceptionnal enough to make me have faith in him!

So? Did you get that 1 bitcoin that you've secretly asked for?

[adverbelly]

modern atheism works itself as a religion, they're programmed to fight each other

atheism is not a religious system..  it is even apart from any religious stuff.. dont give atheism a bad name..