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February 22, 2016, 12:10:46 PM |
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Is it written anywhere in the Bible that being an atheist means going to hell?
Not really... you'd be surprised at how little is mentioned about hell in the bible... For example... If you read The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri, written in 1320 AD... Hell is not a lake of fire, but it is frozen... because that is what Christians believed in the 1300's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy#InfernoI'm not sure when hell changed from a frozen lake into a lake of fire... that's new... I suppose burning is scarier than freezing? The Catholics don't believe in hell (anymore), and I don't think the Jews ever believed in hell... no idea about Muslims or Hindu... I'd guess the Muslims believe in hell, but not Hindu? It's a shame that they kept inventing this shit. Religions without hell are much cooler! Yes but, Hell full of atheists is going to be a lot hotter.  Yeah we're all shaking in fear over here. Well, you should be.  |
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February 22, 2016, 12:12:27 PM |
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Is it written anywhere in the Bible that being an atheist means going to hell?
Not really... you'd be surprised at how little is mentioned about hell in the bible... For example... If you read The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri, written in 1320 AD... Hell is not a lake of fire, but it is frozen... because that is what Christians believed in the 1300's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy#InfernoI'm not sure when hell changed from a frozen lake into a lake of fire... that's new... I suppose burning is scarier than freezing? The Catholics don't believe in hell (anymore), and I don't think the Jews ever believed in hell... no idea about Muslims or Hindu... I'd guess the Muslims believe in hell, but not Hindu? It's a shame that they kept inventing this shit. Religions without hell are much cooler! Yes but, Hell full of atheists is going to be a lot hotter. Yeah we're all shaking in fear over here. Well, you should be. I thought about that, but then I just got a beer and now I'm all good again. |
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February 22, 2016, 01:33:28 PM |
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Is it written anywhere in the Bible that being an atheist means going to hell?
Not really... you'd be surprised at how little is mentioned about hell in the bible... For example... If you read The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri, written in 1320 AD... Hell is not a lake of fire, but it is frozen... because that is what Christians believed in the 1300's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy#InfernoI'm not sure when hell changed from a frozen lake into a lake of fire... that's new... I suppose burning is scarier than freezing? The Catholics don't believe in hell (anymore), and I don't think the Jews ever believed in hell... no idea about Muslims or Hindu... I'd guess the Muslims believe in hell, but not Hindu? It's a shame that they kept inventing this shit. Religions without hell are much cooler! Yes but, Hell full of atheists is going to be a lot hotter. Yeah we're all shaking in fear over here. Well, you should be. Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens! |
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Moloch (OP)
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February 22, 2016, 04:58:26 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... |
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blackbird307
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February 22, 2016, 05:56:02 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... Annoying logic strikes again. Damn it. |
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Daniel91
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February 22, 2016, 06:14:06 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... It's just your opinion. Only people (influenced by Satan and evil spirits) kill other people, not God. Satan is bad because he destroyed God's ideal, heavenly kingdom, by pushing people to separate from God. After Human Fall, we had just misery, suffering and pain. God didn't want such world. So, yes, Satan is responsible for our misery, not God. |
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February 22, 2016, 06:24:56 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... It's just your opinion. Only people (influenced by Satan and evil spirits) kill other people, not God. Satan is bad because he destroyed God's ideal, heavenly kingdom, by pushing people to separate from God. After Human Fall, we had just misery, suffering and pain. God didn't want such world. So, yes, Satan is responsible for our misery, not God. If God doesn't want things to be bad He shouldn't allow it. I mean He can do everything, right? |
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February 22, 2016, 06:32:56 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... It's just your opinion. Only people (influenced by Satan and evil spirits) kill other people, not God. Satan is bad because he destroyed God's ideal, heavenly kingdom, by pushing people to separate from God. After Human Fall, we had just misery, suffering and pain. God didn't want such world. So, yes, Satan is responsible for our misery, not God. You mean that God had no choice but to banish humanity from heaven because of Satan manipulation? |
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blackbird307
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February 22, 2016, 06:40:39 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... It's just your opinion. Only people (influenced by Satan and evil spirits) kill other people, not God. Satan is bad because he destroyed God's ideal, heavenly kingdom, by pushing people to separate from God. After Human Fall, we had just misery, suffering and pain. God didn't want such world. So, yes, Satan is responsible for our misery, not God. You mean that God had no choice but to banish humanity from heaven because of Satan manipulation? Interesting question, which leads to another: is God powerless in front of Satan or He doesn't want to do anything against him? Either way - it's not good. |
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February 22, 2016, 06:44:11 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... It's just your opinion. Only people (influenced by Satan and evil spirits) kill other people, not God. Satan is bad because he destroyed God's ideal, heavenly kingdom, by pushing people to separate from God. After Human Fall, we had just misery, suffering and pain. God didn't want such world. So, yes, Satan is responsible for our misery, not God. You mean that God had no choice but to banish humanity from heaven because of Satan manipulation? Interesting question, which leads to another: is God powerless in front of Satan or He doesn't want to do anything against him? Either way - it's not good. Meh, don't answer before the other stupid Christian ^^ Yeah the idea is either God is omnipotent and could have kept us in heaven hence he decided not to do it. Hence he's a litle bitch. Or else he couldn't do it but hence he's not omnipotent. |
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Daniel91
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February 22, 2016, 07:04:11 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... It's just your opinion. Only people (influenced by Satan and evil spirits) kill other people, not God. Satan is bad because he destroyed God's ideal, heavenly kingdom, by pushing people to separate from God. After Human Fall, we had just misery, suffering and pain. God didn't want such world. So, yes, Satan is responsible for our misery, not God. You mean that God had no choice but to banish humanity from heaven because of Satan manipulation? God can do everything He wants but he decide to give people free will, so that they themselves realize who is Satan and get back to him. If God intervene in our lives he will break our free will and we will loose chance to qualify to become his children. It's complex theological matter. |
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February 22, 2016, 07:14:14 PM |
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Atheists deny truth, but not fairy tales.
What does this even mean? The bible is a fairy tale, unless you can prove me wrong. Maybe send uber jesus round to pick me up. Since God has been scientifically proven to exist, atheism is the fairytale.  what science proved god exists .. i really cruious about this.. |
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February 22, 2016, 07:35:15 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... It's just your opinion. Only people (influenced by Satan and evil spirits) kill other people, not God. Satan is bad because he destroyed God's ideal, heavenly kingdom, by pushing people to separate from God. After Human Fall, we had just misery, suffering and pain. God didn't want such world. So, yes, Satan is responsible for our misery, not God. You mean that God had no choice but to banish humanity from heaven because of Satan manipulation? God can do everything He wants but he decide to give people free will, so that they themselves realize who is Satan and get back to him. If God intervene in our lives he will break our free will and we will loose chance to qualify to become his children. It's complex theological matter. So he chose to give us pain, suffering, doubt, despair for...? He gives us everything bad in this world only to give us back what we had MAYBE? Doesn't sound like a good being to me... |
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February 22, 2016, 07:47:23 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... Annoying logic strikes again. Damn it. If Christians understood logic, they would all be suicidal Isn't heaven supposed to be better than earth? What are you waiting for? The sooner you die, the sooner you can enjoy heaven! |
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February 22, 2016, 08:23:17 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... Annoying logic strikes again. Damn it. If Christians understood logic, they would all be suicidal Isn't heaven supposed to be better than earth? What are you waiting for? The sooner you die, the sooner you can enjoy heaven! Some Christians do understand logic. In this case they're not zealots and understand the Bible isn't absolute truth but a mere spiritual guideline ^^ |
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February 22, 2016, 09:04:01 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... Annoying logic strikes again. Damn it. If Christians understood logic, they would all be suicidal Isn't heaven supposed to be better than earth? What are you waiting for? The sooner you die, the sooner you can enjoy heaven! Well, you can't just hang yourself ^^ But it's true that you could take the most dangerous humanitarian missions in the most dangerous places :-) |
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February 22, 2016, 09:37:54 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... Annoying logic strikes again. Damn it. If Christians understood logic, they would all be suicidal Isn't heaven supposed to be better than earth? What are you waiting for? The sooner you die, the sooner you can enjoy heaven! Well, you can't just hang yourself ^^ But it's true that you could take the most dangerous humanitarian missions in the most dangerous places :-) There are ways... the Jews could teach you all about outsmarting God https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVpCNKp9PD0 |
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February 22, 2016, 09:41:13 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... Isaiah 5:20King James Version (KJV) |
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February 22, 2016, 09:44:04 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... Isaiah 5:20King James Version (KJV) You know what? I didn't understand what you wrote, I really didn't xD |
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February 22, 2016, 09:51:18 PM |
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Why should we? Satan isn't going to punish us, why would he? He has no interest into crushing us! Better train us in order to take over the heavens!
Hahaha... touché What makes you think Satan is such a bad guy? He is only "the accuser"... accusing God of committing a moral crime... he's the good guy... Satan isn't the murderer of the bible... that's God... God murders everyone on the planet... and then keeps murdering, and commanding his followers to murder Satan only murders Job's family, and only because God told him to... Isaiah 5:20King James Version (KJV) That verse only supports Satan being the good guy... it says look at their deeds, not their words... God is the murderer, not Satan |
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