My account SebastianJu banned for 14 days now?

[SebastianJu_alt]

Ok, I was really surprised reading that Iam banned from bitcointalk for 14 days for:

Sorry SebastianJu, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
Excessive consecutive posting+sig ad (14 days)

Account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640

Iam not aware of a restriction I broke. I surely don't spam, in fact Iam taken as a prime example of quality posts in every sig campaign i was taking part till now. And now I read that I was banned for 14 days.

That obviously is a big problem for me as escrow since Iam only allowed to post on meta with an alt now. I have running escrow trades and not being allowed to send private messages for 14 days will turn this into quite a mess.

Why did this happen shortly after I protected the buyer in an account deal where the seller tried to hide the fact that this account was banned in a number of signature campaigns. Is there a connection?

I really don't know how I should solve this. I don't want to let the escrow users hang and surely I don't want scam accusation threads without me being able to respond. I still would want to serve as escrow and hopefully this will not take out the next trusted escrow, alot gave up in the last weeks already.

Really that was a surprise. Not being allowed to post relevant posts only because I take part in a signature campaign is new to me and I was not aware of a rule that says moderators will block someone for posting too many on topic and constructive posts. If I would have spammed, ok, but really, that definitely is not the case.

I would like to know who banned me, why exactly and on what rule and how he came to the conclusion that I deserve a ban.

But most important, is there a solution without turning the escrow trades I currently run into a mess?

Man... that really hit me by surprise.

[mexxer-2]

Man bad coincidence, but I was thinking that you'd sure get temp-banned at the very least if you continued(today). Didn't come as a surprise though, as I did warn you not to make several posts in a row while wearing a signature, quite long ago.

Also, replying to posts from 2 pages ago doesn't help , just sayin

Edit: If it helps, convey messages to my email: mesmer@mail.com and I'll be able to post them for you.

[tyz]

Sorry to hear. I had a similar destiny some weeks ago.
It seems that people who write 20-30 posts a day are put into the  box of extremely posters even if the quality is at least fair. I know your post quality is much better. I for myself, did not know that I violated a board rule. It seems the rules have been changed recently or existing rules are applied much stronger now.

[mexxer-2]

Sorry to hear. I had a similar destiny some weeks ago.

Man I should be a inituiton god or something, with all the obvious necro posts you replied to and are still replying, the ban is/was no surprise. Start reading the threads, especially the dates when they were posted on  and you may be spared another ban

[SebastianJu_alt]

Man bad coincidence, but I was thinking that you'd sure get temp-banned at the very least if you continued(today). Didn't come as a surprise though, as I did warn you not to make several posts in a row while wearing a signature, quite long ago.

Also, replying to posts from 2 pages ago doesn't help , just sayin

Edit: If it helps, convey messages to my email: mesmer@mail.com and I'll be able to post them for you.

I don't have time to go through all the threads new answers every day so it happens that I take the time to go through after 2 days only. Of course I want to answer to those posts that are new to me. I don't see why it should not be allowed. I mean you practically say that you have to have online daily to answer posts. Who on this forum is here all day except sig spammers, scam busters and so on? The vast majority is posting way more seldom. Are away for days. So why should there be a rule to not answer to posts that are new to you?

Besides, I do max 4 posts in a row when I want to answer many posts in a tread. Do you say there is a rule that would demand that I have to have to wait one post from another user after I make another answer? Sounds like a mess actually. And putting all answers in one post surely is not helpfull too since when I hide answers to other persons in a thread that has an answer to another person on top then mostly these answers will be not seen. Besides... i had complaints for writing too long posts too already. Guess there is not way to do it right then.

Anyway this sounds like unwritten rules and if rules are hidden it is impossible to not go against them. I did not read about such rule coming into existence.

Thanks for your offer to post what I want to say though that could not help in the escrow trades since traders might want to be A) anonymous to other forum members and B) might need to send me a bitcoin address to release the coins to. Both are confidential data often enough and the "don't send pm's" can't be solved with that.

[SebastianJu_alt]

Sorry to hear. I had a similar destiny some weeks ago.

Man I should be a inituiton god or something, with all the obvious necro posts you replied to and are still replying, the ban is/was no surprise. Start reading the threads, especially the dates when they were posted on  and you may be spared another ban

If this was meant to me then too then I think the only post that was dead already was me requesting badbear about why he thinks bans should not be seen. I mean even now I think, what should users do Iam in an escrow trade with? They would not see that Iam banned and could assume I try to scam.

Besides that today I went through my profiles notifications since I sometimes lose threads answers where I did not get an email notification or made another error. It doesn't mean that these threads are not worth anymore to answer to. I wonder why you think old threads need to die.

Regarding prevision... ah no, you wrote you are accused of being an alt of Quickseller, you are online all the time too, being a scambuster and all and today I wrote about why I did not trust all of his negative ratings. Forbid me the thought that your prevision was led by knowledge maybe. I only thought of the possibility, no accusation.

Though it might be important to know if this might be an automated ban of some kind. Can this be? Are there banbots on the forum?

[OgNasty]

Probably not the best idea to have a paid signature when you're trying to conduct business on the forums as a reputable individual.  My BTC0.00000002.

[mexxer-2]

Sorry to hear. I had a similar destiny some weeks ago.

Man I should be a inituiton god or something, with all the obvious necro posts you replied to and are still replying, the ban is/was no surprise. Start reading the threads, especially the dates when they were posted on   and you may be spared another ban

-snip-

I'm pretty sure I don't have ADHD but thats a big wall of text there. And no I was addressing the guy above me, as I quoted him

Also, even though I'm pretty sure it was your(@Seb now) LQ necro posts in English that lead to this ban, seems you are much more regularly posting in German section. Sho might help catergorizing, if those too were LQ post or not.

P.S: I'm pretty sure I saw QS in your post even though it was I "tl;dr"ed the post. Now what is that about in a thread about your ban?

Probably not the best idea to have a paid signature when you're trying to conduct business on the forums as a reputable individual.  My BTC0.00000002.

Even more so if you're fond of randomly replying to people who posted something ages ago, but can't put it all in a single post

[Mitchell]

SebastianJu, you were temporarily banned because you kept making multiple posts in a row, which that could have been posted in one. You have been warned about this before and having a paid signature doesn't help.

Example 1
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.msg13885766#msg13885766
Four consecutive posts that could have been posted in one.

Example 2
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13886091#msg13886091
Another 3 consecutive posts.

Example 3
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13887359#msg13887359
Another 3 consecutive posts.

Example 4
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13890264#msg13890264
Another 2.

Example 5
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13890417#msg13890417
Another 2.

These are just five examples from yesterday and today. I'm pretty sure I could have found more, but I'm not going to bother.

Though it might be important to know if this might be an automated ban of some kind. Can this be? Are there banbots on the forum?

This was not an automated ban, but I've written (and I'm running) a bot that checks posts made by newbies.

[mexxer-2]

SebastianJu, you were temporarily banned because you kept making multiple posts in a row, which that could have been posted in one. You have been warned about this before and having a paid signature doesn't help.

I remember telling him the same , sometime after Nov. apparently he didn't get the message.

Anyway, the temp-ban... work of grue I suppose?

[Lutpin]

SebastianJu, you were temporarily banned because you kept making multiple posts in a row, which that could have been posted in one. You have been warned about this before and having a paid signature doesn't help.

I remember telling him the same , sometime after Nov. apparently he didn't get the message.
Anyway, the temp-ban... work of grue I suppose?

I remember telling you the same, when you wrote me "double posting isn't that bad, SebastianJu does it all the time".

[mexxer-2]

I remember telling you the same, when you wrote me "double posting isn't that bad, SebastianJu does it all the time".

Its not that bad when you 1) Don't do it regularly 2) Don't have a paid signature while doing so and 3rd, haven't been privately warned by a moderator
Edit:

^ That's kinda off-topic you two. This is about SebastianJu.

Riiight, you get carried away when you don't have a campaign manager's hot breath down your neck I guess 

[Lutpin]

Its not that bad when you 1) Don't do it regularly 2) Don't have a paid signature while doing so and 3rd, haven't been privately warned by a moderator

There's still always the edit button, as long, as you're not doing all your posts in the Auction section.

^ That's kinda off-topic you two. This is about SebastianJu.

Soooooorry, but our conversation was initiated by his postings, so it's like 1% on topic
mexxer, let's continue in PM.

[Mitchell]

^ That's kinda off-topic you two. This is about SebastianJu.

[SebastianJu_alt]

SebastianJu, you were temporarily banned because you kept making multiple posts in a row, which that could have been posted in one. You have been warned about this before and having a paid signature doesn't help.

Example 1
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.msg13885766#msg13885766
Four consecutive posts that could have been posted in one.

Example 2
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13886091#msg13886091
Another 3 consecutive posts.

Example 3
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13887359#msg13887359
Another 3 consecutive posts.

Example 4
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13890264#msg13890264
Another 2.

Example 5
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13890417#msg13890417
Another 2.

These are just five examples from yesterday and today. I'm pretty sure I could have found more, but I'm not going to bother.

Though it might be important to know if this might be an automated ban of some kind. Can this be? Are there banbots on the forum?

This was not an automated ban, but I've written (and I'm running) a bot that checks posts made by newbies.

I remember someone telling me that and till then I already made way less posts in a row. Though that wasn't you or another staff member, right? I explained that user that every answer to other persons that are hidden in one post, that looks like it is directed to another user, will most probably been read over. Especially when you break the answer to the first person into quotes to answer single points of hit post. Surely I would have taken it more seriously realising that the warning was coming from staff. Did I not see the staff mark only? Anyway, I'm sorry about not following when staff told me about it.

One could ask what's better in posting one huge post than 3 posts in a row, taking the same space nearly but are in a clear order and easy to read. You use paragraphs too to format a text and surely no one writes a letter to three people and puts all the text into one letter, hoping that the other two read it too somehow. Everyone would read the start and thinks it is directed to another use.

Anyway, if those are the rules I was not aware that it are actual rules.

So can we maybe speak about a solution for the escrow problem? If you think posting was the problem then maybe make me stop posting for a time, even though I got the point anyway already, but private messages were not part of the problem but probably will become a problem in the near future. Can you maybe allow me to send private messages at least to handle the escrow part? I really don't want to be put wrongly in the same pot as recent negative escrow cases.

[Lutpin]

I remember someone telling me that and till then I already made way less posts in a row. Though that wasn't you or another staff member, right? I explained that user that every answer to other persons that are hidden in one post, that looks like it is directed to another user, will most probably been read over. Especially when you break the answer to the first person into quotes to answer single points of hit post.

You can always use [ hr ] to seperate two sections of your post. It's a clear cut and you can show where one logical section begins and ends.

One could ask what's better in posting one huge post than 3 posts in a row, taking the same space nearly but are in a clear order and easy to read. You use paragraphs too to format a text and surely no one writes a letter to three people and puts all the text into one letter, hoping that the other two read it too somehow. Everyone would read the start and thinks it is directed to another use.

That's vague. We're not talking about PMs here. We're talking about public posts, that every user can see, those quoted, those directly related and those that have nothing to do with it.
Also, the problem lies in you getting paid for your signature, and accumulating a lot of posts in that way (often 4 or 5 after each other) that would be 1 post otherways.
Also, your signature is shown 5 times, when you do individual posts, instead of 1 time, when you would answer everything in one post.

^ That's kinda off-topic you two. This is about SebastianJu.

Sorry for that.

[redsn0w]

I don't think it is against the forum rules make multiple posts in a row, few months ago I've opened a thread regarding that fact ... it's all about the sig. ad (nothing else).

[Mitchell]

One could ask what's better in posting one huge post than 3 posts in a row, taking the same space nearly but are in a clear order and easy to read. You use paragraphs too to format a text and surely no one writes a letter to three people and puts all the text into one letter, hoping that the other two read it too somehow. Everyone would read the start and thinks it is directed to another use.

I know that with big posts it often looks cleaner to use multiple posts, but as you are wearing a paid signature, it makes the whole case more complicated. I usually use [hr] and [hr][hr] if I want to separate two messages and that seems to work fine.

So can we maybe speak about a solution for the escrow problem? If you think posting was the problem then maybe make me stop posting for a time, even though I got the point anyway already, but private messages were not part of the problem but probably will become a problem in the near future. Can you maybe allow me to send private messages at least to handle the escrow part? I really don't want to be put wrongly in the same pot as recent negative escrow cases.

I don't have the authority to say anything about this, so you'll have to wait for someone else to answer this. Sorry.

[mexxer-2]

it's all about the sig. ad (nothing else).

Yep, oh the freedom us non-camapigners have...  

@Sebastian, just for public reference, can you sign a message that your account was banned so that I can quote it and paste it on your escrow thread, so that no one mistakes you for another escrow scammer?

Also a good idea might be to change your signature and add your email addy(temp works fine) for others to contact you about refunds and whatnot

Edit:

I don't have the authority to say anything about this, so you'll have to wait for someone else to answer this. Sorry.

Apparently grue is up

[Mitchell]

@Sebastian, just for public reference, can you sign a message that your account was banned so that I can quote it and paste it on your escrow thread, so that no one mistakes you for another escrow scammer?

Also a good idea might be to change your signature and add your email addy(temp works fine) for others to contact you about refunds and whatnot

I highly recommend you doing this and I'll vouch if needed.

Apparently grue is up

Or Grue/BadBear/Theymos and maybe even HilarousAndCo. I can only do so much.