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I agree to suggestion of GreedyJohn. Amount is really big, but it is well deserved, as without SoopY's involvement the game would have been over. The input from Crysx and GreedyJohn himself should not be underestimated. Crysx is the one who got SoopY here (plus his constant support and positive influence here on forum, plus the infrastucture he provided). GreedyJohn is the one who actually runs everything besides tech stuff, so his input is invaluable. What about the portions... Well, I think nobody but you could define your reward here . Just get together and decide. Just make sure everyone is happy Droidz will only benefit from big amount of coins being in strong hands, who are committed to make an input further. ******************* The only thing which makes me a bit... unsure.. is the fact that nodoby (including the development team) gives a f**k about masternodes code being broken. Cannot believe I am the only one who noticed that.. . I was waiting for the swap end to draw everybody's attension to this pretty obvious fact, and see if anyone cares. Is it still too early to talk about this?
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March 20, 2016, 04:39:38 AM |
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The only thing which makes me a bit... unsure.. is the fact that nodoby (including the development team) gives a f**k about masternodes code being broken. Cannot believe I am the only one who noticed that.. . I was waiting for the swap end to draw everybody's attension to this pretty obvious fact, and see if anyone cares. Is it still too early to talk about this? it shouldn/t be broken now. i understand it was part of the swap update. it would be a major stupid to require yet another hard fork. lol just needing 25k, which I personally have not been able to do until the exchanges are back online :p
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The only thing which makes me a bit... unsure.. is the fact that nodoby (including the development team) gives a f**k about masternodes code being broken. Cannot believe I am the only one who noticed that.. . I was waiting for the swap end to draw everybody's attension to this pretty obvious fact, and see if anyone cares. Is it still too early to talk about this? it shouldn/t be broken now. i understand it was part of the swap update. it would be a major stupid to require yet another hard fork. lol just needing 25k, which I personally have not been able to do until the exchanges are back online :p Maybe it shouldn't be, but it is Heh... looks like I am well ahead of you in when it comes to Droidz-MN... . I had those 25K coins, so I tried to setup a masternode, spent a good deal of time, and there is long story I can tell about this ) I know almost nobody cares to read long posts here, but maybe (might be!!) someone will... who knows.. Here it is: Here is the current situation: - As soon as those 25K coins confirm, Mastrernode could be started and you indeed can see it in "masternode list"! But here good news finish . The MN is visible in "masternode list" ONLY in your own wallet, all others do not see it. Moreover, after a short time (maybe 1-2 minutes) it is kicked out even by your wallet, and becomes inactive. No MN payments come even in those 1-2 minutes. I have started debugging the wallet, adding some printouts and modifying the code both at MN wallet and another staking wallet. Being new to this code, I spend about 6 hours to find the reason. Must say the MN-related code is not really clean, and seems somewhat illogical in places (its not purely Droidz code, it is exactly the same code as in many other MN coins, including Dash). After the modifications I was able to run the MN, and have it working stable and receive payments from my staking wallet - but only my wallet was able to work with that MN, because both had the same modification. This means the code is perfectly fixable, and if change applies to all nodes/wallets, MN will work ok. One additional observation - it is actually very good the MN do not work currently, as otherwise staking wallets will have "-5%" yearly stake!! Note the "minus" - it means stakers would have lost coins instead of earning Here is the reason of this: https://github.com/DroidzDevTeam/Droidz-V3/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L4251: int64_t GetMasternodePayment(int nHeight, int64_t blockValue) { int64_t ret = blockValue * 2; // double the standard pos rate or 10% per annum
return ret; }
The payment to MN is indeed 10% yearly, but the stake percent is still 5%, as a result MN gets 2*5%=10%, and the staking wallet gets 5%-2*5% = -5% yearly. Nice feature . Reminds of paying taxes to make the rich ones more rich...
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GREEDYJOHN
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March 20, 2016, 04:53:55 PM |
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The only thing which makes me a bit... unsure.. is the fact that nodoby (including the development team) gives a f**k about masternodes code being broken. Cannot believe I am the only one who noticed that.. . I was waiting for the swap end to draw everybody's attension to this pretty obvious fact, and see if anyone cares. Is it still too early to talk about this? it shouldn/t be broken now. i understand it was part of the swap update. it would be a major stupid to require yet another hard fork. lol just needing 25k, which I personally have not been able to do until the exchanges are back online :p Maybe it shouldn't be, but it is Heh... looks like I am well ahead of you in when it comes to Droidz-MN... . I had those 25K coins, so I tried to setup a masternode, spent a good deal of time, and there is long story I can tell about this ) I know almost nobody cares to read long posts here, but maybe (might be!!) someone will... who knows.. Here it is: Here is the current situation: - As soon as those 25K coins confirm, Mastrernode could be started and you indeed can see it in "masternode list"! But here good news finish . The MN is visible in "masternode list" ONLY in your own wallet, all others do not see it. Moreover, after a short time (maybe 1-2 minutes) it is kicked out even by your wallet, and becomes inactive. No MN payments come even in those 1-2 minutes. I have started debugging the wallet, adding some printouts and modifying the code both at MN wallet and another staking wallet. Being new to this code, I spend about 6 hours to find the reason. Must say the MN-related code is not really clean, and seems somewhat illogical in places (its not purely Droidz code, it is exactly the same code as in many other MN coins, including Dash). After the modifications I was able to run the MN, and have it working stable and receive payments from my staking wallet - but only my wallet was able to work with that MN, because both had the same modification. This means the code is perfectly fixable, and if change applies to all nodes/wallets, MN will work ok. One additional observation - it is actually very good the MN do not work currently, as otherwise staking wallets will have "-5%" yearly stake!! Note the "minus" - it means stakers would have lost coins instead of earning Here is the reason of this: https://github.com/DroidzDevTeam/Droidz-V3/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L4251: int64_t GetMasternodePayment(int nHeight, int64_t blockValue) { int64_t ret = blockValue * 2; // double the standard pos rate or 10% per annum
return ret; }
The payment to MN is indeed 10% yearly, but the stake percent is still 5%, as a result MN gets 2*5%=10%, and the staking wallet gets 5%-2*5% = -5% yearly. Nice feature . Reminds of paying taxes to make the rich ones more rich... It is nice having you around. We need to get soopy to fix this code.
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March 20, 2016, 05:46:50 PM |
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Hi All,
Thank you Droidz, Bumba and GREEDYJOHN for your kind comments and support , appreciate it so very much.
About the Balance , I m waiting to hear from Chrysx opinion on the same.
About the Masternode matter , due to the major event that was the swap we mainly focused I only looked into the Masternode matter as a secondary issue that was pressing that time and did not run a complete check on that at that time and did only the changes that would have made it worked if the code was good enough but according to Dray's Analysis it is not due to the same changes not being implemented by the previous Dev I believe , please allow me next few days to run a complete scan of the affected code and resolve this matter the same.
Warm Regards, ~SoopY~
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March 20, 2016, 05:55:26 PM |
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Hi All,
Thank you Droidz, Bumba and GREEDYJOHN for your kind comments and support , appreciate it so very much.
About the Balance , I m waiting to hear from Chrysx opinion on the same.
About the Masternode matter , due to the major event that was the swap we mainly focused I only looked into the Masternode matter as a secondary issue that was pressing that time and did not run a complete check on that at that time and did only the changes that would have made it worked if the code was good enough but according to Dray's Analysis it is not due to the same changes not being implemented by the previous Dev I believe , please allow me next few days to run a complete scan of the affected code and resolve this matter the same.
Warm Regards, ~SoopY~
Thanks for responding outside your normal online/working hours
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March 20, 2016, 10:29:08 PM Last edit: March 21, 2016, 01:44:14 AM by drays |
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Hi All,
Thank you Droidz, Bumba and GREEDYJOHN for your kind comments and support , appreciate it so very much.
About the Balance , I m waiting to hear from Chrysx opinion on the same.
About the Masternode matter , due to the major event that was the swap we mainly focused I only looked into the Masternode matter as a secondary issue that was pressing that time and did not run a complete check on that at that time and did only the changes that would have made it worked if the code was good enough but according to Dray's Analysis it is not due to the same changes not being implemented by the previous Dev I believe , please allow me next few days to run a complete scan of the affected code and resolve this matter the same.
Warm Regards, ~SoopY~
I suppose the " Droidz" mentioned above, is supposed to be 'Drays', right? 'Drays' pretty much sounds like 'Droidz'... There is just a small subtle difference... Sure, MN was secondary issue during the swap. I would love it to work as I could have run the only MN and collect all the payments during all that time The problematic code is not in the part changed by you, it is there from the very beginning as implemented by previous Dev (supposedly "Frazazel").
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March 21, 2016, 12:55:08 AM |
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hi all ...
away for two days as the beginning of the move - then back here for the rest of the week to organize the rest of the move for the completion on the 28th of this month ... will take me about a week to settle in - so ill be back on a more regular and stable basis after that ...
i have only touch on the read i need to catchup on - but will do that today with a more detailed post ... if needed ...
soopy and i keep missing each other on skype - so for the next couple of days - we will discuss everything that needs to be laid out on the table ... have meesaged you already greedyjohn on pm here - even though you know that skype is the better way to get hold of me due to my 'moving' circumstances ...
will be back after i have caught up with all the reading and running around i need to do today ...
#crysx
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March 21, 2016, 02:37:09 AM |
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One additional observation - it is actually very good the MN do not work currently, as otherwise staking wallets will have "-5%" yearly stake!! Note the "minus" - it means stakers would have lost coins instead of earning Here is the reason of this: https://github.com/DroidzDevTeam/Droidz-V3/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L4251: int64_t GetMasternodePayment(int nHeight, int64_t blockValue) { int64_t ret = blockValue * 2; // double the standard pos rate or 10% per annum
return ret; }
The payment to MN is indeed 10% yearly, but the stake percent is still 5%, as a result MN gets 2*5%=10%, and the staking wallet gets 5%-2*5% = -5% yearly. Nice feature . Reminds of paying taxes to make the rich ones more rich... I don't think that works like that? where in the code are PoS rewards effected by masternode payments? I canna see anything myself . i'm just waiting for my qt to sync :p only 15k blocks to go
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March 21, 2016, 06:18:31 AM |
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Hi,soopy,how many total number about DRZ-V3 at present?
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March 21, 2016, 06:22:31 AM Last edit: March 21, 2016, 10:54:21 AM by GREEDYJOHN |
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Hi,soopy,how many total number about DRZ-V3 at present?
8,022,979 DRZ https://chainz.cryptoid.info/drz/Remember that I paid for this block chain to be extended beyond its previous expiry date.
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March 21, 2016, 12:00:01 PM |
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One additional observation - it is actually very good the MN do not work currently, as otherwise staking wallets will have "-5%" yearly stake!! Note the "minus" - it means stakers would have lost coins instead of earning Here is the reason of this: https://github.com/DroidzDevTeam/Droidz-V3/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L4251: int64_t GetMasternodePayment(int nHeight, int64_t blockValue) { int64_t ret = blockValue * 2; // double the standard pos rate or 10% per annum
return ret; }
The payment to MN is indeed 10% yearly, but the stake percent is still 5%, as a result MN gets 2*5%=10%, and the staking wallet gets 5%-2*5% = -5% yearly. Nice feature . Reminds of paying taxes to make the rich ones more rich... I don't think that works like that? where in the code are PoS rewards effected by masternode payments? I canna see anything myself . i'm just waiting for my qt to sync :p only 15k blocks to go What I tell is based on practical experiment (except the theory)... I as I told I have tested with one MN and one staking wallet, and my wallet was losing balance after each stake If you are interested, I can show you the wallet addresses in the block explorer, so you can see it for yourself. The pure PoS reward size is never effected by MN payment. PoS block reward is calculated first and added to wallet balance, then the MN amount is subtracted from that, and sent to MN. If MN reward is bigger, the result is wallet having less balance than before stake! I have checked several other MN coins (like Dash, 8bit etc), and the MN payment amount there is not based on staking reward amount, but is always smaller, not twice the size of it like in current DRZ code:)
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kurniajim
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March 21, 2016, 09:57:25 PM |
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Where is drz exchange?
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CryptoMaik
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March 21, 2016, 10:34:40 PM |
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Its time for the exchanges to release the coins. Still locked many coins at yobit.
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March 22, 2016, 02:55:03 AM |
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Hi,soopy,how many total number about DRZ-V3 at present?
8,022,979 DRZ https://chainz.cryptoid.info/drz/Remember that I paid for this block chain to be extended beyond its previous expiry date. Thanks
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GREEDYJOHN
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March 22, 2016, 02:28:11 PM |
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You probably need to get more coins
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March 22, 2016, 03:38:22 PM Last edit: March 22, 2016, 08:14:28 PM by drays |
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Its your wallet, nobody could tell better than you can Possible reasons: 1. You have "staking=0" set in your config 2. You have reserved 10000 or more coins (see "Option" dialog) 3. Your wallet is not synchronised 3. Wallet was closed Do you see the staking icon active? Whats the staking time estimation shown? 10000 is big enough number to stake pretty fast.
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March 22, 2016, 05:28:33 PM |
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Thanks for your hard work guys!
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March 22, 2016, 05:59:29 PM Last edit: March 22, 2016, 06:48:44 PM by GREEDYJOHN |
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Thanks for your hard work guys!
Thanks for your patience. I have lost so much money trying to save this coin.
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