Community Miner Design Discussion

[QuentinA]

Count me in once the boards are out, great project guys!! I would like to help out but I don't know much about electronics so... PM me if you need some voluntary marketing job done, anything to re decentralize mining!

[Xircom]

But important is to move away from single ASIC cooling like the S7, since it would kill the production line in time-spending mounting all these single heatsinks on used boards.
If the boards are the same, then it could be interesting to buy in a used soldering line for mounting new ASICS, 3 programs for 3 boards.
Is their any scrap value in the old ASIC chips ?
2-5 engineers making this project as a hobby, is not enough, I think, do to time pressure before halving, but 20-30 hobby engineers could make the project launch in no time, even on different continents.
Wrike project control, Google Docs and Dropbox or similar, then you could sit from home designing, testing or whatever.

Ok, i'm dreaming here, but it would be freaking awesome to see this project fly.

[sidehack]

I'm really not sure what you're talking about. We're definitely moving away from S7, and nobody has mentioined doing anything at all with S7 so far. No chipsinks, no 3 boards per machine, no reusing boards or chips.

Also, remember that "lessons learned by the WASP project" bit from the first page? Coordinating 20-30 engineers "even on different continents" would be a disaster. The thing is not that complex and doesn't need that many people bickering and wasting time.

[philipma1957]

I'm really not sure what you're talking about. We're definitely moving away from S7, and nobody has mentioined doing anything at all with S7 so far. No chipsinks, no 3 boards per machine, no reusing boards or chips.

Also, remember that "lessons learned by the WASP project" bit from the first page? Coordinating 20-30 engineers "even on different continents" would be a disaster. The thing is not that complex and doesn't need that many people bickering and wasting time.

The new board is best done by a small team.
You did this with the compac sticks.
If we can get a sliding scale efficient miner out of this project it would be very nice.

The solar array I am doing gives me fairly low cost power and if your project takes off a .1 watt miner that can go to a .075 watt miner really works for me.

[HerbPean]

This is freaking awesome !

[Mitak]

I will follow this with interest for sure.
BTW do you have an agreement for avalon chips ?
I am planing my own SFHF minr design with the new 16  from Bitfury

[Xircom]

A small team is good but they have to do it fast. Question is if a small team has the hours to make a project like this?
What is the minimum amount of chips we have to order?
Financial wise, is this going to work as preprder to raise the money?

[toptek]

if he had the chips now I'm sure we would have them now, I'm sure if he could have got some s7 chips we would have some very nice s7 chip stuff .

T all ready picked out a new cooling system for my new  c1. aka water cooled zero miner  lol .

if it doesn't happen then I'll do whatever .


From what I read there not asking for any upfront cash that's the nice thing about side and the other guy helping they don't want any cash till it's ready like side does with his sticks .

That thing i said about script miners was just that a thing, i know you all won't make any or like them, i won't nor will i ever ask anyone to do anything anyone says they won't
I Have yet to.
That just a thing, thing,  was more a point about  Innosilicon then anything

I don't like dual miners either but do like doing script mining because at times you can make more doing it but that's about as far I'll say there . .


if i had the cash to back this , i would do it in a heart beat and never ask for anything while it is being done that how it should be and once it is done do per sells.

not per orders that some how seems like a scam from the start , selling something you don't have made or even have, just so you can make it, shame on you or worse your main intention,  is to steal it. .

So what if i would lose money !!!! .money is replaceable some times trust and respect can't be replaced or won back !!!.
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if im reading this right a 20 th miner doing only 450w ? dam nice .!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1360038.msg13934396#msg13934396

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Only a heap of Avalon 6 chips so far for Kilo's commissioned project.

But, folks are working on BitFury to pitch-in with the Community aspect of it by lower the MOQ for this project. After all, they DO keep on talking about helping to spread and decentralize BTC along with helping grow the Community to do it...

By how much BitFury or any other 14/16nm miner chip maker helps or even if at all remains to be seen.

[kilo17]

It seems that this project is suffering by comparison to WASP.  It also is apparent that people think we are time crunched.  Sidehack and I have been discussing this project for about 4 months and only now have the stars lined up for us to start moving forward.

This is NOT WASP - We are not asking for 1 penny. There is ZERO financial risk to any community member.  Sidehack has a great track record and will not release anything that is done half ass nor would any other person involved in the project.

As far as I know I am bank rolling this project with the intention of it being open source and making miners available to the community.  There are no deadlines, there is no roadmap and there is no business plan.  The objective is simple:

Produce a miner that is affordable and efficient to allow home miners to continue to mine bitcoins. 

I have spoke with a lot of people about ASICS for the project and have received promising responses. A lot of that info I am unable to discuss presently but Will as soon as I am able to do so.

I appreciate all the responses on this thread and I am excited about the project.

[Mitak]

And again what is WASP ?
link anybody ?

[Xircom]

It seems that this project is suffering by comparison to WASP.  It also is apparent that people think we are time crunched.  Sidehack and I have been discussing this project for about 4 months and only now have the stars lined up for us to start moving forward.

This is NOT WASP - We are not asking for 1 penny. There is ZERO financial risk to any community member.  Sidehack has a great track record and will not release anything that is done half ass nor would any other person involved in the project.

As far as I know I am bank rolling this project with the intention of it being open source and making miners available to the community.  There are no deadlines, there is no roadmap and there is no business plan.  The objective is simple:

Produce a miner that is affordable and efficient to allow home miners to continue to mine bitcoins. 

I have spoke with a lot of people about ASICS for the project and have received promising responses. A lot of that info I am unable to discuss presently but Will as soon as I am able to do so.

I appreciate all the responses on this thread and I am excited about the project.

THUMBS UP.  This going to be freaking awesome. No price indications yet so we can start to save up some money?

[punin]

Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.

[kilo17]

Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.

I/we are hoping to get Bitfury chips for the project.  I have been working on sourcing them and any help you can provide would be invaluable.  I have sent you a PM to further discuss it.  

[notlist3d]

Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.

I/we are hoping to get Bitfury chips for the project.  I have been working on sourcing them and any help you can provide would be invaluable.  I have sent you a PM to further discuss it.  

That is great news if this happens.  I really do hope you guy's get Bitfury chips for project.    That is kinda a game changer getting them.

We would have the best of the best this way with project.

[RoadStress]

Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.

Again nice words, but zero acting. What would be the minimum amount of $ required in order to sell chips to the forum hardware manufacturers?

[xleejohnx]

Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.

Again nice words, but zero acting. What would be the minimum amount of $ required in order to sell chips to the forum hardware manufacturers?

Bitfury wants $1m upfront for a batch of their chips if that's what you are asking

[philipma1957]

And again what is WASP ?
link anybody ?

A project like this that died about 15 months ago.  Maybe 20 months ago. 

[toptek]

It seems that this project is suffering by comparison to WASP.  It also is apparent that people think we are time crunched.  Sidehack and I have been discussing this project for about 4 months and only now have the stars lined up for us to start moving forward.

This is NOT WASP - We are not asking for 1 penny. There is ZERO financial risk to any community member.  Sidehack has a great track record and will not release anything that is done half ass nor would any other person involved in the project.

As far as I know I am bank rolling this project with the intention of it being open source and making miners available to the community.  There are no deadlines, there is no roadmap and there is no business plan.  The objective is simple:

Produce a miner that is affordable and efficient to allow home miners to continue to mine bitcoins.  

I have spoke with a lot of people about ASICS for the project and have received promising responses. A lot of that info I am unable to discuss presently but Will as soon as I am able to do so.

I appreciate all the responses on this thread and I am excited about the project.

THUMBS UP.  This going to be freaking awesome. No price indications yet so we can start to save up some money?

A guess price more or less 600 bucks for two boards that total 4 th or more in speed  at 500 w or less at the wall that fits any s1/s3/c1/s5 till the S7 with your own controller and most of us have PI type PC lying around waiting  to be used .so  you  provide the rest and most of us have the rest .  again that is a guess more or less they gave Us .The other nice thing there not basing it off what bitcoins cost which is how it should be they base it more off cost to make it which is how it should be.  and not over what it might make more or less  which is how it should be . because there is Market out there for it at a lower price and they can make more selling at a lower price to homes, it's there . numbers really mean nothing . the big investor like seeing those numbers . I guess it make them feel better .

back a few pages

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368507.msg13932487#msg13932487

If possible, we'd like to secure Bitfury ASICs for a "final product" that would be compatible with S1/3/5 chassis. Looking at something 4TH/480W wall (stock), undervoltable to about 2.6TH/200W wall. I really want to be able to sell a two-board set for $600 but I don't know if that'll be possible (which is to say, more than cost but less than expected mining revenue).

[RoadStress]

Guys I'm super excited about this personally and want to help as much as I can!

I'll discuss internally if and how BitFury could contribute to this project. Our reference design PCB for 16nm is almost done and could be used as a starting point should BitFury's chip be selected.

Again nice words, but zero acting. What would be the minimum amount of $ required in order to sell chips to the forum hardware manufacturers?

Bitfury wants $1m upfront for a batch of their chips if that's what you are asking

Well that is already known information. But judging from what punin said I thought that he might lower that huge amount of money for the forum buyers/integrators. That would be really helpful instead of free empty words.