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September 15, 2016, 11:16:23 PM
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September 15, 2016, 11:19:39 PM
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Truth be told, I haven't signed anything with anyone at all. But at the same time I figure it's probably more polite if I don't go blabbing everything that's going on.

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September 15, 2016, 11:39:22 PM
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I completely understand.
I'm under NDA with design team myself ( signed one ), but only one 16 nm chip here.
I do not know what contract they have with the chip manufacturer
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September 15, 2016, 11:41:20 PM
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The USb flash drive type miner is very limited in terms of current (power) if it have to be USB 2.0 compatible
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September 15, 2016, 11:43:00 PM
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Truth be told, I haven't signed anything with anyone at all. But at the same time I figure it's probably more polite if I don't go blabbing everything that's going on.
I agree with you 100% and is the most professional way to do things.

The way things seem to go in the chip mfg world it is far best to try and not fuel rampant speculation by tossing out tidbits that are too specific. The knowledge that somethings are in the works that may or may not pan out is enough for me.

If the chip suppliers care to speak up eventually -- that's their bailiwick to feed the Forum crowd. After the Bitfury 16nm thread debacle and others, I can understand suppliers being very very careful until chips are in-hand, ready to be delivered.

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September 17, 2016, 12:48:56 AM
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The USB flash drive type miner is very limited in terms of current (power) if it have to be USB 2.0 compatible
But these days, who says its current rating has to be USB 2.0 compatible? That has been extended so now only the link speed for 2.0 is relevant.

Forget thee not that the power needs of tablets, GPS devices, and smartphone has blown away having only 500ma available. Many now need at least 1.2A or more to properly charge and even more to be used while charging. Given that stickminers fall nicely into that extended power-hungry group, strict USB 2.0 compat is a non-issue.

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September 18, 2016, 02:21:06 PM
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Yes you are right , but:
5 V 1.2 A it is what - 6 W
with 6 W with theoretical specs current 16 nm generation of Bitfury you will get roughly 50-60 Ghs tops and the chip will be hot as hell, so the device will need good coiling - heat sink alone will have trouble to handle the heat or it have to be oversize .
This is my reason
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September 19, 2016, 07:42:16 PM
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I've pulled close to 15W out of USB for jacked-up Compacs before, moderate airflow on the stock heatsink. That's more heat into the ASIC than the S5 ran when overclocked.

Some of the new chips aren't 10W-scale chips like the BM1384 though, probably more like 5-7W I would guess. A stick might have two chips on it if that's the case.

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September 19, 2016, 08:27:11 PM
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Yes you are right , but:
5 V 1.2 A it is what - 6 W
with 6 W with theoretical specs current 16 nm generation of Bitfury you will get roughly 50-60 Ghs tops and the chip will be hot as hell, so the device will need good coiling - heat sink alone will have trouble to handle the heat or it have to be oversize .
This is my reason

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September 19, 2016, 11:04:06 PM
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Yes you are right , but:
5 V 1.2 A it is what - 6 W
with 6 W with theoretical specs current 16 nm generation of Bitfury you will get roughly 50-60 Ghs tops and the chip will be hot as hell, so the device will need good coiling - heat sink alone will have trouble to handle the heat or it have to be oversize .
This is my reason

My watercooling project for the gekkos may well have a purpose if I can ever justify the cost of doing it  Undecided
Hmm. Random thought:
A lava lamp usually uses a 75w bulb so how about gluing 5 Compacs to the bottom of one on the outside of the glass in where the bulb usually sits.. Do they have blinking lights to add to the fun?
The temp of them should not get above comfortable warm...

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September 19, 2016, 11:13:27 PM
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It looks an awful lot like it's fallen through.

Very sorry to hear,but I expected that.....Bitmain will be the last to sell miners for "home" use  Cry

But with the diff rising & rising who can afford to mine at home with ASICs.....only folks like philipma1957  Cool

all my s-9's are in the solar array which is a homesite ,but with an 1 and ¾  acres of solar panels  in a horse paddock  does not quite count as at home mining.
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but the eth mining at home turns profit at the moment.  Wink

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September 20, 2016, 02:57:40 AM
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It looks an awful lot like it's fallen through.

Very sorry to hear,but I expected that.....Bitmain will be the last to sell miners for "home" use  Cry

But with the diff rising & rising who can afford to mine at home with ASICs.....only folks like philipma1957  Cool

all my s-9's are in the solar array which is a homesite ,but with an 1 and ¾  acres of solar panels  in a horse paddock  does not quite count as at home mining.
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but the eth mining at home turns profit at the moment.  Wink

Yeah my eth "farm" is doing well too,only 4 cards but 3 are paid off after 3 months Smiley

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