Matthew N. Wright (OP)
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March 27, 2013, 01:01:08 AM |
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hey matthew,
i have PM'd you regarding our bet. are you going to honor our bet?
I've been advised of your situation and to take you seriously-- once all the people have been paid back from your scams. At that point, yes, I will message you in regards to a settlement. Although that may sound hypocritical, we all know that a great majority of the betters were not planning on paying if they lost (they even admitted to me in PM and refused payment), so it is impossible to take someone seriously who is currently actively admitting to both being a scammer and having scammed at the time of the bet. That said, fix that little problem and we're back in order.
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BTC guy
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March 27, 2013, 01:02:35 AM |
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lets start negotiating now.
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Matthew N. Wright (OP)
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March 27, 2013, 01:10:09 AM |
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lets start negotiating now.
I'm afraid you'll have to wait until after. I do not currently regard your bet as being honorable, neither do the moderators and admins. Thanks for understanding. I'll be happy to negotiate the settlement after your situation is handled. Cheers.
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BTC guy
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March 27, 2013, 01:15:32 AM |
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we will negotiate how we will handle our situation or i will not handle my situation with my buyers.
to show i am serious i will handle my situation with one of my buyers. when that happens we will negotiate our situation. deal?
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Matthew N. Wright (OP)
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March 27, 2013, 01:20:21 AM |
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we will negotiate how we will handle our situation or i will not handle my situation with my buyers.
to show i am serious i will handle my situation with one of my buyers. when that happens we will negotiate our situation. deal?
Terribly sorry Mr. scammer, but this is not a negotiation.
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BTC guy
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March 27, 2013, 01:23:02 AM |
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I do not currently regard your bet as being honorable.
LOL - and your bets were honorable? dont make me laugh. were both liars and tagged scammers. i wont negotiate either. now or never. think quick and carefully. i wont back down.
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BTC guy
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March 27, 2013, 01:55:46 AM |
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theymos, if matthew will not negotiate with me you should ban me again right now and that will be the end of it.
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John (John K.)
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March 27, 2013, 03:15:15 AM |
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Please settle your outstanding debts before taking it up with Matthew.
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BTC guy
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March 27, 2013, 03:17:49 AM |
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no
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BTC guy
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March 27, 2013, 04:32:45 PM |
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bump
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Rassah
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March 27, 2013, 04:39:58 PM |
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bump
As I understand it, Matthew is buying back his reputation. What reputation do you have to sell to him, if any?
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BTC guy
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March 27, 2013, 04:50:07 PM |
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im not selling or buying back my reputation. i dont care about my reputation. i only care about fixing my bad decisions and collecting from matthew.
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Matthew N. Wright (OP)
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March 27, 2013, 04:55:34 PM |
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bump
As I understand it, Matthew is buying back his reputation. What reputation do you have to sell to him, if any? That's not true, and I already told you the reason in PM. It's not a matter of reputation. Everyone here knows I think many bitcoiners are retarded, delusional and irrational thinkers who have no place in the real world. This is about integrity. Just because I think someone is an idiot, doesn't mean I have the right to screw with their finances and get their hopes up. I deserve this punishment for crossing a very serious line, there is no doubt about it. It's kind of like going out drifting with your friends because "fuck the police" (done it), and ending up getting in a wreck and someone gets hurt. How can any sane person feel good about that afterwards? As the driver, I feel awful. I just want to make sure everyone in that car and outside is taken care of. It's not an issue of if I'm allowed to drive again, no one can stop me from driving again, not here, not anywhere. I don't need permission from people on an internet forum to drive. This is about being on my death bed and knowing I didn't do the right thing when I screwed up. Having said that, I am positive there were numerous people who had no intention of paying me if they lost (because I have received numerous messages admitting to that). For an admitted scammer/welcher to come here demanding I pay him without realizing he's like #118 on the list of people before him who are also demanding to be paid, he's delusional. Doing the right thing would be ignoring him completely to be honest. The only reason I would ever begin to settle with him is because without settling with him, it leaves this issue open forever. I'm not going to settle with a scammer though, there's no debating that.
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Phinnaeus Gage
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March 27, 2013, 05:06:20 PM |
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Since BTC guy's other accounts are not scammer tagged, maybe Matthew should registered Matthew N Wright (sans the period) so that he could have a clean account to conduct viable business. If ever it's brought to the attention of the newly named account referencing the scammed account, Matthew would simply address those concerns politely, then refer those to the other account where they will be addressed accordingly.
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Rassah
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March 27, 2013, 05:09:54 PM |
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im not selling or buying back my reputation. i dont care about my reputation. i only care about fixing my bad decisions and collecting from matthew.
I'm not talking about your reputation, I'm talking about Matthew's. In effect, by repaying, Matthew is buying back his reputation/"integrity" from others whom he screwed. So my question is, what sort of reputation or integrity can you offer him with your scammer-labled account? I.e. what does Matthew gain from paying you back, if others around here may not give a crap one way or the other whether you were repaid? In simple terms, Matthew repaying someone like Theymos or Gavin (had he owed them) would be a very good value for the money spent. Him repaying you? Not so much.
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Matthew N. Wright (OP)
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March 27, 2013, 05:14:12 PM |
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Since BTC guy's other accounts are not scammer tagged, maybe Matthew should registered Matthew N Wright (sans the period) so that he could have a clean account to conduct viable business. If ever it's brought to the attention of the newly named account referencing the scammed account, Matthew would simply address those concerns politely, then refer those to the other account where they will be addressed accordingly.
That's equivalent to evading a ban imo. Besides, I'm not proud of my own behavior in the past, but it's who I am and I own it. It's like watching someone working out as a skinny weakling and meeting them later in life when they're buff, and them denying that they were ever skinny and weak. They simply wouldn't. They'd be beaming and proud of their change. I'd be robbing myself of that I guess. For an extreme example, Sonny, the CEO of BFL, is a convicted criminal who was arrested for a fraud basically doing exactly what BFL is doing now, and people still send them money. Do you really think a scammer tag is going to keep me from doing business, having friends, getting married, investing, learning, collaborating, and supporting projects? It's more likely that the bad habit of creating sock puppets (like some others here) will leak into their real lives and make them cowards. No thanks!
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BTC guy
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March 27, 2013, 05:18:49 PM |
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matthew, you never responded to my PM or sent me any PM at all. the first time you responded to me was when i posted in this thread. i dont care about you matthew. i dont care what your thought process is or what your reasons for doing it was. we both made the bet. you confirmed and accepted my bet. if you want to man up and accept responsibility for your actions you will have to deal with me. im not asking you to give me any coins at this point. im only asking you to begin the negotiation process. 250 BTC 19P4ochF31h78qnK5yxAFn33hiTSgmMQ8L greed wins
Acknowledged.
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BTC guy
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March 27, 2013, 05:24:35 PM |
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what does Matthew gain from paying you back?
matthew gets to accept responsibility for his actions and clear his name. its a learning experience for him. it will give him good character. his actions will also insure the people i burned are repaid.
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Matthew N. Wright (OP)
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March 27, 2013, 05:26:07 PM |
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what does Matthew gain from paying you back?
matthew gets to accept responsibility for his actions and clear his name. its a learning experience for him. it will give him good character. his actions will also insure the people i burned are repaid. Where is the 250 BTC you would have given me if I won? You can't repay anyone you scammed without me giving you money, then you couldn't pay me if I had won.
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March 27, 2013, 05:26:23 PM |
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now we have scammers infighting......
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