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November 22, 2016, 03:29:20 AM
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I put them at same place and make no difference between gambling ans trading since both are risky. Trading some people say is not like gambling and there are patterns and charts to learn if that was true then people were not loosing money in trading. You can loose money in both as factor of risk is in both they are same for me as well.
For me, they are quite different from each other, though. In gambling, you usually need the luck to win a game while trading does not require this element. As you can see, you can not predict what will  happen. But in trading, you can analyze chart and news in order to make a good decision, to buy or to sell currency at a time. You also need luck in trading, but it is not very important thing which can make a significant impact to your trading career
Well, I agree with you, however, in addition to luck, you also need the knowledge and experience in the world of trading. Well, in gambling I think you need more luck that many of the experiences and knowledge, because without luck, it will be very difficult to make a satisfactory outcome
That's true, gambling is all about luck whereas trading is luck and skill/knowledge. the profit is slow in trading, but at least you won't lose big like in gambling.
can i join this conversation. i've finally doing some trading and im gonna say its a little bit risky too just like gambling but for my experience gambling is more slower profit than trading. because if you dont have enough luck today you will just end up on losing your money.  trust me . idont believed that much in gambling this days im currently doing trading and saving my income to invest for my self.
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November 22, 2016, 03:48:13 AM
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Well, trading is still better than to gamble if you are good at bargaining. it is the difference between gambling and trading. Well, gambling has a very big risk compared to trading, but the revenue earned from gambling I think faster than in trading, as in trading requires a long time to see the results

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November 22, 2016, 04:02:09 AM
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Base on facts, in gambling we have a less chance of winning while trading we have a great chance of becoming successful if and only we will have to work for it. In gambling it's different as most of time you rely on luck but in trading you cannot rely on luck alone as the more you are knowledgeable you will develop your skills.

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Which is why trading can be considered as gambling too, in the sense that one is risking money to gain even more money.

But the similarity ends there, because I'd say that trading is more dependent on one's knowledge(research made) than on luck. Although I can't deny luck still plays a part in it, but not to the extent as seen in gambling.


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November 22, 2016, 04:02:52 AM
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Well, trading is still better than to gamble if you are good at bargaining. it is the difference between gambling and trading. Well, gambling has a very big risk compared to trading, but the revenue earned from gambling I think faster than in trading, as in trading requires a long time to see the results
What has bargaining todo with trading brother ?
See if you are taking trading like buying physcial items and selling them at higher price then its a bussiness and not actually trading, for me trading means where we buy something or invest in something and then wait for the investment to pay off, like buying shares online is a classic example.

Best trading possible is btc price tading, safe quick and hard to loose if done properly.
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November 22, 2016, 04:51:21 AM
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...

Well in both you are playing against others, being just a casino script or whales, as you are putting your coins into a risk i would consider the same, even knowing a small difference between, that is be able to control the loss or winnings when you risking to gamble.
Base on facts, in gambling we have a less chance of winning while trading we have a great chance of becoming successful if and only we will have to work for it. In gambling it's different as most of time you rely on luck but in trading you cannot rely on luck alone as the more you are knowledgeable you will develop your skills.

yeah I think so, we have more chances and more possible to earn from trading than gambling because when it comes to gambling we are more depending to our luck not to knowledge, method or experience and that three aspects are more needed when it comes to trading i know that when we are dealing with that two we surely need luck but we can see it obviously that they are really different from each other.
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November 24, 2016, 10:34:35 AM
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Think that answer to this question is based on the strategy and investing style of the participant. 

Gambling has a fixed odds system for all major games, while trading in the markets is truly unpredictable.  The “house” or market does not have any unfair advantage as with casino style games.

If you are able to exercise extreme discipline and laser focus on your trading strategy, you can profit in the market. 
However, if you approach the market with random abandonment, then the market can and will cause you serious pain.



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November 24, 2016, 10:53:02 AM
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Think that answer to this question is based on the strategy and investing style of the participant. 

Gambling has a fixed odds system for all major games, while trading in the markets is truly unpredictable.  The “house” or market does not have any unfair advantage as with casino style games.

If you are able to exercise extreme discipline and laser focus on your trading strategy, you can profit in the market. 
However, if you approach the market with random abandonment, then the market can and will cause you serious pain.

Exactly, you have to give your full focus in trading because it requires such for your to succeed. You are playing with the real market and you need to feed yourself with an updated information that will affect your decision making.

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November 24, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
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It's a cousin of gambling :p
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November 24, 2016, 01:08:01 PM
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Think that answer to this question is based on the strategy and investing style of the participant. 

Gambling has a fixed odds system for all major games, while trading in the markets is truly unpredictable.  The “house” or market does not have any unfair advantage as with casino style games.

If you are able to exercise extreme discipline and laser focus on your trading strategy, you can profit in the market. 
However, if you approach the market with random abandonment, then the market can and will cause you serious pain.

Exactly, you have to give your full focus in trading because it requires such for your to succeed. You are playing with the real market and you need to feed yourself with an updated information that will affect your decision making.
its a business that needs determination to achieve success a long journey that we need more patient to learn and make good judgement in selecting our investment its not a type of gambling that we just placing our bets according to our instinct and waiting for luck to come, in the real sense of trading we are working on it making good plans to make sure for future success.

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November 24, 2016, 01:16:25 PM
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I put them at same place and make no difference between gambling ans trading since both are risky. Trading some people say is not like gambling and there are patterns and charts to learn if that was true then people were not loosing money in trading. You can loose money in both as factor of risk is in both they are same for me as well.
For me, they are quite different from each other, though. In gambling, you usually need the luck to win a game while trading does not require this element. As you can see, you can not predict what will  happen. But in trading, you can analyze chart and news in order to make a good decision, to buy or to sell currency at a time. You also need luck in trading, but it is not very important thing which can make a significant impact to your trading career
Well, I agree with you, however, in addition to luck, you also need the knowledge and experience in the world of trading. Well, in gambling I think you need more luck that many of the experiences and knowledge, because without luck, it will be very difficult to make a satisfactory outcome
That's true, gambling is all about luck whereas trading is luck and skill/knowledge. the profit is slow in trading, but at least you won't lose big like in gambling.
can i join this conversation. i've finally doing some trading and im gonna say its a little bit risky too just like gambling but for my experience gambling is more slower profit than trading. because if you dont have enough luck today you will just end up on losing your money.  trust me . idont believed that much in gambling this days im currently doing trading and saving my income to invest for my self.

its happen to me in every time i am playing gambling because i think my luck not always work even if i make small bet in gambling but i am fine with that. for me, i am doing trading is just for fun and in my daily, i am doing trading so i think i can make money from trading and from gambling, i only want to get fun and relax with gambling games.

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November 24, 2016, 02:11:14 PM
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...
Yes the possibility of gaining back loses is much clearer rather than gambling that will only allow you to keep losing more and more while you are very eager to bounce back unlike trading after sudden loss opportunity to hold or opportunity regain the price always higher if you supported known project.
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November 24, 2016, 04:40:00 PM
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...
Yes the possibility of gaining back loses is much clearer rather than gambling that will only allow you to keep losing more and more while you are very eager to bounce back unlike trading after sudden loss opportunity to hold or opportunity regain the price always higher if you supported known project.

that's right. i think the only similarity between gambling and trading is the risk you put in the onset. but if you analyze it, it's normal to lose when trading but you are,in a way, aware of how to get back those losses since trading requires study of movements of coins. wherein gambling, you have to still hope that you'd be lucky enough to regain your losses if you lose and the chances of that happening if pretty slim compared to when you do trading

 
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November 24, 2016, 04:48:08 PM
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...
Yes the possibility of gaining back loses is much clearer rather than gambling that will only allow you to keep losing more and more while you are very eager to bounce back unlike trading after sudden loss opportunity to hold or opportunity regain the price always higher if you supported known project.

that's right. i think the only similarity between gambling and trading is the risk you put in the onset. but if you analyze it, it's normal to lose when trading but you are,in a way, aware of how to get back those losses since trading requires study of movements of coins. wherein gambling, you have to still hope that you'd be lucky enough to regain your losses if you lose and the chances of that happening if pretty slim compared to when you do trading
They are really the same in terms of risk of lossing money but they differ on how you gonna lessen the risk involving it. As you mentioned on trading we could definitely minimize it by having more knowledge on trading and some skills needed unlike on gambling which you really purely rely on luck in able to win but there are games that still need skills and experience like sports bet but they are just the same though.

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November 25, 2016, 09:19:54 AM
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...
Yes the possibility of gaining back loses is much clearer rather than gambling that will only allow you to keep losing more and more while you are very eager to bounce back unlike trading after sudden loss opportunity to hold or opportunity regain the price always higher if you supported known project.

that's right. i think the only similarity between gambling and trading is the risk you put in the onset. but if you analyze it, it's normal to lose when trading but you are,in a way, aware of how to get back those losses since trading requires study of movements of coins. wherein gambling, you have to still hope that you'd be lucky enough to regain your losses if you lose and the chances of that happening if pretty slim compared to when you do trading
They are really the same in terms of risk of lossing money but they differ on how you gonna lessen the risk involving it. As you mentioned on trading we could definitely minimize it by having more knowledge on trading and some skills needed unlike on gambling which you really purely rely on luck in able to win but there are games that still need skills and experience like sports bet but they are just the same though.

risk is resent all day if we look in that direction
every actions and every step have some risk or consequences
will this be trading or gambling that is not the point
gambling is win - lose all the way trading is different from all perspectives



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November 25, 2016, 12:54:56 PM
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...
Yes the possibility of gaining back loses is much clearer rather than gambling that will only allow you to keep losing more and more while you are very eager to bounce back unlike trading after sudden loss opportunity to hold or opportunity regain the price always higher if you supported known project.

that's right. i think the only similarity between gambling and trading is the risk you put in the onset. but if you analyze it, it's normal to lose when trading but you are,in a way, aware of how to get back those losses since trading requires study of movements of coins. wherein gambling, you have to still hope that you'd be lucky enough to regain your losses if you lose and the chances of that happening if pretty slim compared to when you do trading
They are really the same in terms of risk of lossing money but they differ on how you gonna lessen the risk involving it. As you mentioned on trading we could definitely minimize it by having more knowledge on trading and some skills needed unlike on gambling which you really purely rely on luck in able to win but there are games that still need skills and experience like sports bet but they are just the same though.

risk is resent all day if we look in that direction
every actions and every step have some risk or consequences
will this be trading or gambling that is not the point
gambling is win - lose all the way trading is different from all perspectives
Well, it's really different as in trading a lot of people succeed while in gambling a lot of people loses. It's easy to understand the difference as I see gambling as an entertainment while trading as a job.

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November 28, 2016, 06:16:13 AM
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...
Yes the possibility of gaining back loses is much clearer rather than gambling that will only allow you to keep losing more and more while you are very eager to bounce back unlike trading after sudden loss opportunity to hold or opportunity regain the price always higher if you supported known project.

that's right. i think the only similarity between gambling and trading is the risk you put in the onset. but if you analyze it, it's normal to lose when trading but you are,in a way, aware of how to get back those losses since trading requires study of movements of coins. wherein gambling, you have to still hope that you'd be lucky enough to regain your losses if you lose and the chances of that happening if pretty slim compared to when you do trading
They are really the same in terms of risk of lossing money but they differ on how you gonna lessen the risk involving it. As you mentioned on trading we could definitely minimize it by having more knowledge on trading and some skills needed unlike on gambling which you really purely rely on luck in able to win but there are games that still need skills and experience like sports bet but they are just the same though.

risk is resent all day if we look in that direction
every actions and every step have some risk or consequences
will this be trading or gambling that is not the point
gambling is win - lose all the way trading is different from all perspectives
Well, it's really different as in trading a lot of people succeed while in gambling a lot of people loses. It's easy to understand the difference as I see gambling as an entertainment while trading as a job.
Yes very true, many people already profit from trade (especially forex). While in gambling many people lose and do not profit because gambling is a game and requires luck. Except for binary trading, I think it's just like gambling because the system is the same as gambling. For other trading is very different from gambling.
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November 28, 2016, 06:25:39 AM
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...

If you turn your thinking way, than you clearly see both, gambling and trading have many similarity. Actually, i see them in a business wise, trading is risky and many time we loss our amount, even we don't know that what is the next moment happen, if we get profit or lose. And same thing is happened in gambling, in the end of the game, we don't know we win it or not, also our all money on a risky. So we can consider that both are same.
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November 28, 2016, 04:55:35 PM
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...

If you turn your thinking way, than you clearly see both, gambling and trading have many similarity. Actually, i see them in a business wise, trading is risky and many time we loss our amount, even we don't know that what is the next moment happen, if we get profit or lose. And same thing is happened in gambling, in the end of the game, we don't know we win it or not, also our all money on a risky. So we can consider that both are same.

The risk wise both are same, But in trading at least we can expect some profit, in the end, That too if we do trade with the right person, if we make trade with the wrong person then it's our fault. In gambling, it's not like that there is no expectation we have to accept what result we get at the end of the game it may be profit or loss 50 -50 chance.
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November 28, 2016, 05:15:53 PM
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...

If you turn your thinking way, than you clearly see both, gambling and trading have many similarity. Actually, i see them in a business wise, trading is risky and many time we loss our amount, even we don't know that what is the next moment happen, if we get profit or lose. And same thing is happened in gambling, in the end of the game, we don't know we win it or not, also our all money on a risky. So we can consider that both are same.
You're right gambling and tradinh are both similar loosing money is just an example for this both and rsiky we lose in trading we lose in gambling sometimes we get profit in both this is why we considered trading as a gambling

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November 28, 2016, 05:19:16 PM
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I do not consider same because their different ways of losing in the sense that in gambling the chances of me losing is higher which could also be unfair, even after the "provably fair" slogan and I could not verify or I'm not even sure of that unlike trading when I lose, then I know I'm not the only in the box and I can even win back my losses overnight unlike gambling...

If you turn your thinking way, than you clearly see both, gambling and trading have many similarity. Actually, i see them in a business wise, trading is risky and many time we loss our amount, even we don't know that what is the next moment happen, if we get profit or lose. And same thing is happened in gambling, in the end of the game, we don't know we win it or not, also our all money on a risky. So we can consider that both are same.
You're right gambling and tradinh are both similar loosing money is just an example for this both and rsiky we lose in trading we lose in gambling sometimes we get profit in both this is why we considered trading as a gambling
Trading is like gambling though because of the risk involve of lossing it. We cannot really avoid to lose up on trading even how professional or experienced we are because we cant predict anytime the price movement but the difference of trading into gambling on some points on which you could able to trade smartly which really lessens the risk of lossing up too much money unlike on playing gambling which somehow rely on luck always.

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