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February 25, 2016, 08:59:19 PM
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Post the name of a coin not on the poll and that coin will be added to the poll.

[added] Preferably coins without heavy premines / moderated threads etc, I don't want to argue about whether those things are good or bad but I prefer not to list those coins.

The poll will be reset to zero when there are at least 5 coins and the order will be made alphabetical.

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... It could go faster if any devs out there wanna get on GitHub and get with the coding. Wink

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A lot of devs work for pay on shitty coins (e.g. paid by premine, ico or other)...
...and some work for free on better coins (so they will get "paid" by the coin going up in value).

If you were an experienced coder or dev, which ethical coin would you work on for free?
Meaning you buy a little of the coin then do work on its code and have some confidence that the work you are doing would increase the price and value of the coin?


(One HUC vote is mine)

Thread and CMC links

BLK/BK
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.0
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/blackcoin/

GRC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324118.new#new
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/gridcoin/

HZ
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823785 [Moderated]
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/next-horizon/

HUC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435170.0
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/huntercoin/

UNO
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313126.0 [Moderated]
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/unobtanium/

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note: One day I clicked on this poll and saw siacoin suddenly had 19 votes. There was a post from the siacoin dev (below) that seems to explain a tiny premine but doesn't mention some sort of ico. There was a link in the siacoin thread pointing to this poll. Honestly, does all that make siacoin an ethical coin people should donate time to?

This poll is trying to get opinions and measure genuine sentiment towards coins. It's not a "who can spam polls" competition.

If you link the poll in a thread and try to inflate the votes for "your" coin I'll remove your coin until the next reset.
Sia removed
Horizon ""  temporarily.
Gridcoin ""  temporarily.

Please don't link to this poll on 'your' coin thread.

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February 26, 2016, 05:52:15 AM
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UNO

Why?

1. UNO is Bitcoin code, so you are doing code work that improves both at the same time.
2. ASIC tech is the most certain and advanced, so the task now is to improve the merge mining side, that could usher 1000s of side projects to join in.  Creating a very decentralized and secure network that acts very much like the "Crypto 2.0 or 3.0" projects.
 

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February 26, 2016, 01:25:59 PM
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I vote for first Other to SIA

real name, real company, dedicated development and real delivery product.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060294.new#new


their "airbnb" style decentralized cloud storage client is working on smart contract base.

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February 26, 2016, 03:31:16 PM
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How about Horizon? Lawd knows, we can use the help...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823785.0






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February 26, 2016, 03:39:45 PM
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There could be some many options,

I would add Ethereum,Lisk at least in the poll.

They have a great following and are very promising.

And good business people behind it, that are actually working hard for the coin.
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February 26, 2016, 05:41:13 PM
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I would say Bitcoin or Blackcoin.

Blackcoin because it's one of the most efficient POS altcoin.

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February 27, 2016, 03:35:08 AM
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Sia had a 30 million coin premine. There are currently 10 billion coins in circulation, definitely just a drop in the bucket. I regret doing that premine, should have just dropped $600 during the first 5 days of trading, would have had the same effect.
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February 27, 2016, 03:41:37 AM
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Monero.


Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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February 27, 2016, 03:45:52 AM
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BitShares is quite interesting to work for as you can be paid by the blockchain directly.  

Two ways currently:

-Worker Proposal.  Submit a scope of work proposal with required compensation which shareholders can vote on.  If approved, you are automatically paid the blockchain for your work.  This provides a checks and balance system.  If you are showing progress shareholders will continue to vote for you, if no progress, deadbeat workers are voted out.

-Fee Backed Asset.  Stealth was the first fee backed asset.  An end user paid 45k FiAT to Cryptonomex (Bytemaster and team) to implement both the code and GUI.  In return when a stealth transfer is used part of the transfer fee goes to holders of the Stealth FBA.  The end user who funded stealth can hold the complete asset themselves or sell them on BitShares internal exchange.


General Overview
http://docs.bitshares.eu/bitshares/user/index.html#for-blockchain-employees

Workers
http://docs.bitshares.eu/bitshares/user/worker.html

FBA
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0007.md


The BitShares chain can almost be viewed as an autonomous corporation.
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February 27, 2016, 04:11:08 AM
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Monero.




Because?

...  Lisk ...


Why does Lisk not have a CoinMarketCap page?

Monero because it is the best privacy oriented coin with the fairest launch that still has a lot of features in the works, such as i2p integration, pruning, confidential ring signature txs, and more.

Lisk is a fork of Crypti that is about to launch an ICO. It's pretty scammy IMO, Crypti had an ICO, now same devs are forking it and running another ICO, wtf?
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February 27, 2016, 04:15:01 AM
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Monero because it is the best privacy oriented coin with the fairest launch that still has a lot of features in the works, such as i2p integration, pruning, confidential ring signature txs, and more.

Lisk is a fork of Crypti that is about to launch an ICO. It's pretty scammy IMO, Crypti had an ICO, now same devs are forking it and running another ICO, wtf?

these LISK guys can't even be called devs. more like promoters and graphic desigers than serious coders.

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For more information on Monero. Here are some starting points
https://getmonero.org/home
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/monero

For starters:
1) Coin development is funded entirely by donations of time and / or funds. There is no premine etc. Coins are only obtained via Proof of Work mining. This avoids many regulatory issues with agencies such as FinCEN in the United States.
2) Privacy and fungibility via ring signatures, (Cryptonote code base). Current. Ring Signatures with Confidential Transactions (Ring CT) in the future.
3) Adaptive blocksize limits combined with a tail emission address the blocksize scaling issue in Bitcoin. This is by far the highest capitalization Proof of Work coin that does not have the blocksize scaling issue, that is currently tearing the Bitcoin community apart.
4) A strong and very active development team that has over close two years made very significant advances over the original Cryptonote code base. Monero is currently listed 5th over all for developer in https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score
5) A strong and active research arm that is actively addressing security and technical issues. https://lab.getmonero.org/
6) A clear set of design and development goals showing clear and measurable progress https://getmonero.org/design-goals/
7) A forum funding system (totally voluntary) with a proven track record of funding projects. https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress

I can continue but the above should provide a prospective developer with the tools to start her research. When getting involved with a project such as Monero the one thing I would recommend is to do your own research first.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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February 27, 2016, 04:32:13 AM
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Here is the 2015 year in review for Monero.

https://getmonero.org/2016/02/10/monero-missive-2015-year-in-review.html

Edit: Removed quote since it referred to another coin.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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February 27, 2016, 06:42:35 AM
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Gridcoin [GRC].

Gridcoin combines the energy-efficiency of Proof of Stake with scientific "Proof of Work" aka Proof of BOINC to Proof of Research.
With the energy-efficiency of Blackcoin you can generate interest. While you are (optionally) donating your computation power to different BOINC projects (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Open_Infrastructure_for_Network_Computing) like cancer or malaria research, you generate additional coins.

The coin exists for more than 2 years now, there has been no premining. It is ASIC resistant because every whitelisted BOINC project has own algorithms and work on the projects is individually compensated. Some of the projects can utilize your CPU, some also the GPU and there is one for ASIC.

BTC thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324118.new#new
CCT thread (main): https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1331-new-coin-launch-announcement-grc-gridcoin/page-1115
Coinmarketcap: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/gridcoin/

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February 28, 2016, 06:56:35 PM
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Sia had a 30 million coin premine. There are currently 10 billion coins in circulation, definitely just a drop in the bucket. I regret doing that premine, should have just dropped $600 during the first 5 days of trading, would have had the same effect.


They found an elegant way to avoid premine & ICO : this is a two coin mecanism : siacoin and siafunds.
The siafunds has been sold to initial investors : they give right to have a percentage of the payment in siacoin of the storage contracts.
The siacoin are being produced by POW and are the money for the storage renting mecanism.

The one offering storage propose renting at some price on the network, the one searching for storage choose the best offer for his needs and pay in siacoin for a certain time.
A small fee of the renting payment goes to the siafunds holders.

The storage mecanism is in ealy beta stage.


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For more information on Monero. Here are some starting points
https://getmonero.org/home
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/monero

For starters:
1) Coin development is funded entirely by donations of time and / or funds. There is no premine etc. Coins are only obtained via Proof of Work mining. This avoids many regulatory issues with agencies such as FinCEN in the United States.
2) Privacy and fungibility via ring signatures, (Cryptonote code base). Current. Ring Signatures with Confidential Transactions (Ring CT) in the future.
3) Adaptive blocksize limits combined with a tail emission address the blocksize scaling issue in Bitcoin. This is by far the highest capitalization Proof of Work coin that does not have the blocksize scaling issue, that is currently tearing the Bitcoin community apart.
4) A strong and very active development team that has over close two years made very significant advances over the original Cryptonote code base. Monero is currently listed 5th over all for developer in https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score
5) A strong and active research arm that is actively addressing security and technical issues. https://lab.getmonero.org/
6) A clear set of design and development goals showing clear and measurable progress https://getmonero.org/design-goals/
7) A forum funding system (totally voluntary) with a proven track record of funding projects. https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress

I can continue but the above should provide a prospective developer with the tools to start her research. When getting involved with a project such as Monero the one thing I would recommend is to do your own research first.


In my opinion there is enough question about cryptonote's origin to disqualify it as an 'ethical' coin. People should do their own research, as you say.

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February 28, 2016, 10:28:13 PM
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In my opinion there is enough question about cryptonote's origin to disqualify it as an 'ethical' coin. People should do their own research, as you say.

Are there more or less questions about Bitcoin's origin? What a load of shit. Also, putting Blackcoin on there, a clone coin that had a 1 week PoW phase so dev could instamine the shit out of it then switch over to PoS - sounds really "ethical".
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In my opinion there is enough question about cryptonote's origin to disqualify it as an 'ethical' coin. People should do their own research, as you say.

You disqualify Monero on the grounds that it was forked from Bytecoin / Cryptonote, yet you do not disqualify Litecoin on the grounds it was forked from Tenebrix? Disqualifying premined / ninjamined coins is admirable, selectively disqualifying coins that are forked from premined / ninjamined coins to remove the premine / ninjamine is not.

Like I said: Please do your research.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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February 28, 2016, 10:51:18 PM
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i´ll just throw this in ->> Blowing the lid off the CryptoNote/Bytecoin scam (with the exception of Monero)
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I don't want this to sound too much like a Monero circle jerk, but I think devs such as your self would appreciate what monero is trying to do.  Here's a very recent video that Bitcoin Uncensored did and has Fluffypony (one of the core devs of Monero) as a guest, which starts at 6:00 and ends at 32:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKd7F-10lxM&feature=youtu.be&t=6m

Hopefully this will give you a better insight of how people who work with Monero think... and hopefully you can see that it's a pretty humble group of people who primarily are in it for the research in cryptonote technology.

Also, on the getmonero forum page, there is a section there that people post ideas that they think would possibly help Monero... whether it's in the actual code of Monero itself, or other projects that need to be done to help the Monero economy.  These ideas will be talked about on there and if people deem it a good idea, the community and dev will work out some sort of price (in XMR) which the community will pay the dev to do.  So if you have some knowledge in building cool apps or other things that will enhance the economy of Monero, then there is a little bit of extra incentive for you.

But seriously, if you don't want to work on it because maybe you just don't like the way cryptonotes are, or whatever the reason maybe... don't feel like you have to include us in your decision making.

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