The bASIC Refund Tracking Thread

[nbtcminer]

I know that just about everyone on the forums knows that bAsic is dead but it appears that the site is still up and taking orders:

https://www.bitcoinasic.net/

?

Is it just me or did Tom / the bAISC team forget to take down the page when they folded?

[1715110266]

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[regular]

Taken straight from bitcoinasic.net

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Tom hasn't posted anything since January 23rd.  He should be held accountable to that.  Paying back BTC isn't hard.  If he wanted to, he'd just buy more from the funds he received for his initial orders and it should be even easier since he's only refunding the USD value and BTC has climbed so much since we ordered with him.  I'm sure a lot you would like the choice of putting your coins towards avalon or someone instead at this time.

[GenTarkin]

While I'm not at all happy with the way Tom is handling this, I also think the comparisons to pirate are unjustified. Intent is clearly missing as well as most of the harm.

At this point he is exactly like pirate...
Unless we start seeing BTC refunds...

[MrTeal]

While I'm not at all happy with the way Tom is handling this, I also think the comparisons to pirate are unjustified. Intent is clearly missing as well as most of the harm.

At this point he is exactly like pirate...
Unless we start seeing BTC refunds...

Well, I don't remember Pirate refunding 2/3rds of what was owed before running off with the rest, but I could be wrong.

[miter_myles]

Pirate accept straight up credit card funds?

[randomguy7]

What does it matter how much Pirate he is.
The fact that he refuses to communicate with us itself is unacceptable and should get him scammer tagged (as we don't have a "maybe not a scammer but don't do business with" tag). Till he refunded us we're still his fucking customers. What kind of business refuses to communicate with it's customers? Srsly, wtf is this shit. Not even a small "btc refunds might take x more days cause y" post (not that I would put a lot of trust in it but still).

[oceans]

This is becoming more frustrating as each day passes and no answer from him. Even if this turns out not to be a scam, its totally unacceptable. I did get an answer from Dave though, however he once again explained he doesn't have direct access to the BTC purse, so there goes our chance for a refund.  I think this is it. The end of this week is pretty decisive and with all this money involved, Tom better be prepared to run or be gone already. Thats all I'm saying.

[GenTarkin]

Im pretty sure he knows none of us would come after it if he did run off... this community barely does anything to get their scammed money back. oh wellz.. If I dont get my btc back, its probably the end  of btc for me. Had enough of this BS

[kwoody]

 * Order date   -  9/30/2012
 * Order number  -   #800's.
 * Quantity BASIC01 (the $1069.99 72GH/s unit)  -  2
 * Quantity BASIC02 (the $599.99 36GH/s unit)   -  1
 * Quantity BASIC02 --> BASIC01 upgrade   -   0
 * Order status currently shown on website   -  Can't login
 * Payment type (Bitcoin or credit card)    -    Bitcoin
 * Date refund was requested    -  1/31/2013
 * Date refund was received (empty if not received)   -   Nothing, not even a response to request

[tnkflx]

 * Order date: 2012-09-15
 * Order number: #528 & #539 on btcfpga.com. Later transferred to order #490 on bitcoinasic.net by buzzdave.
 * Quantity BASIC01: 3
 * Quantity BASIC02
 * Quantity BASIC02 --> BASIC01 upgrade
 * Order status currently shown on website: Refunded!
 * Payment type (Bitcoin or credit card): Bitcoin.
 * Date refund was requested: 2013-01-13
 * Date refund was received: <empty>, no response at all by Tom...

[iambaboon]

Looks like no BTC refund after 13th of Jan.

Requested a refund on 12th, received response from Dave on 17th -> "I'll submit these refunds to Tom in today's batch."

No sign of refund yet.

Status: Refund Requested

[greeners]

My details:

Order date: Nov 01, 2012
Order #: 1794
Item: BASIC01 x 1
Order status on the website: Refund requested
Payment: BTC
Refund Request date: Jan 12, 2013

no refund yet

[makomk]

Well, I don't remember Pirate refunding 2/3rds of what was owed before running off with the rest, but I could be wrong.

Even assuming he wasn't lying about the proportion of payments, those 2/3rds were credit card payments, which means that most of the customers could've got their money back via chargebacks. Now when that happens, Tom's credit card processor is forced to pay out from their own funds and get the money back from Tom, meaning they'd lose more than enough money to justify legal action against him. They also have his name, address and ID. Bitcoin customers tend to be a lot more reluctant to sue and a lot less capable of doing so.

[hardcore-fs]

Ok guys... everything is ok..... its back on....

https://www.bitcoinasic.net

[Nemesis]

Well, I don't remember Pirate refunding 2/3rds of what was owed before running off with the rest, but I could be wrong.

Even assuming he wasn't lying about the proportion of payments, those 2/3rds were credit card payments, which means that most of the customers could've got their money back via chargebacks. Now when that happens, Tom's credit card processor is forced to pay out from their own funds and get the money back from Tom, meaning they'd lose more than enough money to justify legal action against him. They also have his name, address and ID. Bitcoin customers tend to be a lot more reluctant to sue and a lot less capable of doing so.

Don't bother replying to idiots who still think Tom isn't a scammer.

Because of these idiots, this community will get scammed again and again.

If all of you work together, you can pay a small sum for PI to find exactly where Tom is.

[tnkflx]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140472.0

[miter_myles]

Well, I don't remember Pirate refunding 2/3rds of what was owed before running off with the rest, but I could be wrong.

Even assuming he wasn't lying about the proportion of payments, those 2/3rds were credit card payments, which means that most of the customers could've got their money back via chargebacks. Now when that happens, Tom's credit card processor is forced to pay out from their own funds and get the money back from Tom, meaning they'd lose more than enough money to justify legal action against him. They also have his name, address and ID. Bitcoin customers tend to be a lot more reluctant to sue and a lot less capable of doing so.

Don't bother replying to idiots who still think Tom isn't a scammer.

Because of these idiots, this community will get scammed again and again.

If all of you work together, you can pay a small sum for PI to find exactly where Tom is.

Like I've stated earlier in this thread a couple days ago.. it amazes me how many people are still "Team Tommy" after all this.. lol

[luffy]

Also waiting for my BTC refund 3 weeks now.
At first all these ASICs manufacturers were not scammers since they were also FPGA developers
and they did deliver!
Now, i wonder....

[Grix]

Just wanted to report that I received my second CC refund yesterday. No sign of the last remaining refund though, which was in BTC.

[mtbitcoin]

So no BTC refund yet?