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March 18, 2018, 02:02:19 PM
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Once this turmoil is over more quickly on recovery mode will be these coins which are being depressed because of some initial coin offering projects. Here I am referring at those based on fancy whitepapers and presentations raised money. Nano has received good compliments by reputable people in recent past all that is going to work in future.
why is it still not in coinmarketcap? the coin has been developing for more than two years
Seriously now, OP needs to change topic title, cause people are looking for XRB and Raiblocks instead of NANO. Like this poster. above..
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March 18, 2018, 02:15:32 PM
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why is it still not in coinmarketcap? the coin has been developing for more than two years

Read this medium post: https://medium.com/@nanocurrency/nano-rebrand-announcement-9101528a7b76

https://www.reddit.com/r/RaiBlocks/ >>> https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/

Raiblock Cmc Link: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nano/
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March 18, 2018, 09:43:24 PM
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A perspective from the creator of Nanex: There is no issue with Nano. It is an issue with using the RPC improperly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/7wvfkx/a_perspective_from_the_creator_of_nanex_there_is/

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There's a lot of FUD going around right now, primarily sparked by Francesco Firano and now with KuCoin coming out and saying they were having a 'double-spend' issue too. I'd like to point out that Kucoin fixed this issue immediately and compensated their ledger with their own funds. They did not attempt to sweep it under the rug and the issue was not wide-spread at Kucoin whatsoever, so kudos to them.

But let's get right down to the point of this post, the tl;dr:

There is no issue with the Nano protocol nor the Nano node. There is no double spending going on. The RPC API was being used improperly.
These issues are not 'double spend' in the traditional sense. Double spend assumes someone spent the same funds twice, which would be a major problem in any cryptocurrency and is basically the primary thing that has to be defeated in any cryptocurrency. That is not what is happening, nor was it ever what happened at Bitgrail nor KuCoin. People freak out when they hear 'double spend', and for good reason, but that is NOT what has been going on.

What happened in both the Bitgrail and Kucoin situations was an improper use of the RPC API.

In the RPC, there are two ways to do things:
1. Use the account/wallet system built into the node and allow the node to do everything for you, including sending money without you ever touching a raw block
2. Keep track of your private keys yourself, store nothing in the node, and only use the node for receiving transaction notifications, reviewing the Nano ledger, and broadcasting blocks you sign yourself outside of the node. (how Nanex does it)
Option 1: why it was used, why it exists, and why it's a bad idea
Option 1 is easy, and is how things are done for most traditional coin integrations on exchanges. Nano has that option, but it was never meant to be used by large services like exchanges. It was meant so someone could build their own UI or just use the command-line. It has its own use case, but not for exchanges.

The primary issue with doing it this way is that sends are not idempotent. Idempotency means that if I were to send the request more than once, it would only perform the action once or it would effectively have the same result. In this case, all you are doing is telling the node 'send X amount to this address'. It doesn't care if you already tried doing it before. It doesn't know if you're retrying something or just sending out more funds again. Since it's not idempotent, this means that any retry code in the case of intermittent failure could possibly end up sending out a transaction more than once.

There's also a variety of other issues like not being able to have fine-tuned control over what's happening, having much more difficulty in scaling across multiple nodes, etc.

This was the method that Bitgrail and Kucoin used. As a result, if anything in the system failed or resent a message for whatever reason, it would effectively 'double withdraw'. Again, I can't state this enough, it is not an issue in the NANO protocol. This is an issue in using the nano node properly.

Option 2: the proper way of doing things
If you keep track of your private keys yourself and only use the offline signing methods, this situation becomes much more unlikely. Your transactions become idempotent.

In the Nanex database, when a withdrawal request is submitted there is a unique identifier for that withdrawal. Your funds are immediately taken out of your Nanex wallet. Only then is the request sent to the actual nano node control system. It finds one of our hot accounts with an appropriate balance, locks the account for any further transactions, and creates and signs the block for the withdrawal. This block is then stored in the database with your unique withdrawal request ID.

All of this so far has not touched the node. When the block is ready, it will be sent to one of our nodes to be broadcasted. If, for whatever reason, that fails - it can be retried again because we're sending the exact same raw, signed block to the node. No matter what, a 'double spend' cannot occur because the operation is idempotent.

At this point, the account is still locked so no further withdrawals or deposits can be made to it. Our other nodes listen on the network to ensure it was broadcasted, and once it reaches consensus the account is unlocked for further transactions and the withdrawal is considered complete.

With 10 hot accounts and an Nvidia P100 GPU node, we can process 300 transactions a minute or 5 per second without the slightest possibility of double withdrawals. If we need to scale up, we just add more nodes and hot accounts.

Nanex's design is being implemented by Kucoin now and is regarded as the 'best practice' by the core development team. edit: note that this design isn't just the idempotent transactions, it also includes how we run multiple loadbalanced nodes and have self-consensus on all transactions

BIG EDIT: This can be done from the RPC entirely as well. This isn't something that has to be implemented outside of the node. The idempotent blocks can be created using the built-in wallet system or by providing the keys yourself.

Also, because I know it will come up: the block explorer issue with improper dates being shown.
This, too, was not an issue with the network. There are no timestamps in the Nano ledger and for that matter almost no cryptocurrency has timestamps, only references to past blocks. The explorer had an issue in which some transactions never had a timestamp recorded. This issue was resolved on January 19th, and any transactions that were missing a timestamp ended up getting that date.

Francesco is trying to use this too as some evidence something is wrong with Nano. That's simply not the case, and frankly a cryptocurrency exchange handling millions of dollars a day should not be relying on a third party tool to confirm their own account data.

In conclusion..
There is no issue with Nano. There never was. All the issues Bitgrail ever ran into was of their own doing because they didn't take time to think of how to implement the node properly, just how to 'get it done'. Kucoin unfortunately fell victim to the same thing, but they made things right and fixed their issue immediately. Francesco swept it under the rug and is now attempting to FUD Nano and the core development team in an attempt to save himself.

Stay strong, nanofam.

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Here's another piece I did on 'why it's not an issue with XRB'. https://www.reddit.com/r/RaiBlocks/comments/7ozfrh/im_jaydubs_the_creator_of_raiexchange_ask_me/dsdfe17/

double edit:

Since I've got the platform for this and many people are asking - the core team never endorsed Bitgrail past saying it was a place you could exchange XRB. The time where Zack said 'funds are safe' (the main thing everyone references) was never in reference to Bitgrail's solvency. Those issues happened during a time when nobody thought Bitgrail was exit scamming or that they were hacked, rather it was FUD surrounding the node and the nano protocol itself and people were worried an issue in the node could have made people lose their money.
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March 18, 2018, 11:45:56 PM
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modest projects made for people become successful themselves, as it was with Facebook and with many other companies, and bitcoin is very similar to this coin
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March 19, 2018, 01:15:15 AM
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A perspective from the creator of Nanex: There is no issue with Nano. It is an issue with using the RPC improperly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/7wvfkx/a_perspective_from_the_creator_of_nanex_there_is/

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There's a lot of FUD going around right now, primarily sparked by Francesco Firano and now with KuCoin coming out and saying they were having a 'double-spend' issue too. I'd like to point out that Kucoin fixed this issue immediately and compensated their ledger with their own funds. They did not attempt to sweep it under the rug and the issue was not wide-spread at Kucoin whatsoever, so kudos to them.

But let's get right down to the point of this post, the tl;dr:

There is no issue with the Nano protocol nor the Nano node. There is no double spending going on. The RPC API was being used improperly.
These issues are not 'double spend' in the traditional sense. Double spend assumes someone spent the same funds twice, which would be a major problem in any cryptocurrency and is basically the primary thing that has to be defeated in any cryptocurrency. That is not what is happening, nor was it ever what happened at Bitgrail nor KuCoin. People freak out when they hear 'double spend', and for good reason, but that is NOT what has been going on.

What happened in both the Bitgrail and Kucoin situations was an improper use of the RPC API.

In the RPC, there are two ways to do things:
1. Use the account/wallet system built into the node and allow the node to do everything for you, including sending money without you ever touching a raw block
2. Keep track of your private keys yourself, store nothing in the node, and only use the node for receiving transaction notifications, reviewing the Nano ledger, and broadcasting blocks you sign yourself outside of the node. (how Nanex does it)
Option 1: why it was used, why it exists, and why it's a bad idea
Option 1 is easy, and is how things are done for most traditional coin integrations on exchanges. Nano has that option, but it was never meant to be used by large services like exchanges. It was meant so someone could build their own UI or just use the command-line. It has its own use case, but not for exchanges.

The primary issue with doing it this way is that sends are not idempotent. Idempotency means that if I were to send the request more than once, it would only perform the action once or it would effectively have the same result. In this case, all you are doing is telling the node 'send X amount to this address'. It doesn't care if you already tried doing it before. It doesn't know if you're retrying something or just sending out more funds again. Since it's not idempotent, this means that any retry code in the case of intermittent failure could possibly end up sending out a transaction more than once.

There's also a variety of other issues like not being able to have fine-tuned control over what's happening, having much more difficulty in scaling across multiple nodes, etc.

This was the method that Bitgrail and Kucoin used. As a result, if anything in the system failed or resent a message for whatever reason, it would effectively 'double withdraw'. Again, I can't state this enough, it is not an issue in the NANO protocol. This is an issue in using the nano node properly.

Option 2: the proper way of doing things
If you keep track of your private keys yourself and only use the offline signing methods, this situation becomes much more unlikely. Your transactions become idempotent.

In the Nanex database, when a withdrawal request is submitted there is a unique identifier for that withdrawal. Your funds are immediately taken out of your Nanex wallet. Only then is the request sent to the actual nano node control system. It finds one of our hot accounts with an appropriate balance, locks the account for any further transactions, and creates and signs the block for the withdrawal. This block is then stored in the database with your unique withdrawal request ID.

All of this so far has not touched the node. When the block is ready, it will be sent to one of our nodes to be broadcasted. If, for whatever reason, that fails - it can be retried again because we're sending the exact same raw, signed block to the node. No matter what, a 'double spend' cannot occur because the operation is idempotent.

At this point, the account is still locked so no further withdrawals or deposits can be made to it. Our other nodes listen on the network to ensure it was broadcasted, and once it reaches consensus the account is unlocked for further transactions and the withdrawal is considered complete.

With 10 hot accounts and an Nvidia P100 GPU node, we can process 300 transactions a minute or 5 per second without the slightest possibility of double withdrawals. If we need to scale up, we just add more nodes and hot accounts.

Nanex's design is being implemented by Kucoin now and is regarded as the 'best practice' by the core development team. edit: note that this design isn't just the idempotent transactions, it also includes how we run multiple loadbalanced nodes and have self-consensus on all transactions

BIG EDIT: This can be done from the RPC entirely as well. This isn't something that has to be implemented outside of the node. The idempotent blocks can be created using the built-in wallet system or by providing the keys yourself.

Also, because I know it will come up: the block explorer issue with improper dates being shown.
This, too, was not an issue with the network. There are no timestamps in the Nano ledger and for that matter almost no cryptocurrency has timestamps, only references to past blocks. The explorer had an issue in which some transactions never had a timestamp recorded. This issue was resolved on January 19th, and any transactions that were missing a timestamp ended up getting that date.

Francesco is trying to use this too as some evidence something is wrong with Nano. That's simply not the case, and frankly a cryptocurrency exchange handling millions of dollars a day should not be relying on a third party tool to confirm their own account data.

In conclusion..
There is no issue with Nano. There never was. All the issues Bitgrail ever ran into was of their own doing because they didn't take time to think of how to implement the node properly, just how to 'get it done'. Kucoin unfortunately fell victim to the same thing, but they made things right and fixed their issue immediately. Francesco swept it under the rug and is now attempting to FUD Nano and the core development team in an attempt to save himself.

Stay strong, nanofam.

edit:

Here's another piece I did on 'why it's not an issue with XRB'. https://www.reddit.com/r/RaiBlocks/comments/7ozfrh/im_jaydubs_the_creator_of_raiexchange_ask_me/dsdfe17/

double edit:

Since I've got the platform for this and many people are asking - the core team never endorsed Bitgrail past saying it was a place you could exchange XRB. The time where Zack said 'funds are safe' (the main thing everyone references) was never in reference to Bitgrail's solvency. Those issues happened during a time when nobody thought Bitgrail was exit scamming or that they were hacked, rather it was FUD surrounding the node and the nano protocol itself and people were worried an issue in the node could have made people lose their money.

I think this is because NANO's technology is more advanced. Many people look at the coin from the usual point of view, but in fact it is more rigorous, more thoughtful and more logical. NANO represents a new technical height. It's very exciting!
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March 19, 2018, 01:20:10 PM
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Nice to see some green in Nano's Chart. What i love withi this project is, even if market would experience a 95% crash, I'd still be on profit zone. Good luck to you guys and keep pushing, 2018 can be Nano's year

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March 19, 2018, 02:39:20 PM
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Still cannot understand why there has been dump in the past week.
Bomber has not done much. No FUD anywhere, apart from some random one on twitter.

Di XRB fail somewhere in its distribution through captchas?  Just wondering if it landed in some small amount of peoples hands who are controlling the market.

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March 19, 2018, 04:11:11 PM
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I got ban for saying truth on xrb so the best is to post here.

Double Deposit on Binance 14th March.

It's funny how +B reacts "There is no double spend" and don't even the read the message properly before he speaks.

https://prnt.sc/irhe44

https://prnt.sc/irhe9x

https://prnt.sc/irhegm

Image of double deposits:

1. https://imgur.com/a/TTv4P

2. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/370266023905198085/423607805199646720/Screen_Shot_2018-03-14_at_23.14.31.png

It's not the Nano's network that caused this. It is the NANO wallet implementation of Binance. It is not easy to integrate a decentralized ledger service into a single database system like an exchange, bugs will appear especially with new tech like Nano.

Yes, I don' t ununderstand why some people have doubts about nano network. It always worked perfectly, even when there was no exchange. It's hard to integrate this new kind of blockchain or at least harder than bitcoin clone.

I guess you don't know how many issues xrb nano had before. It was never always worked perfectly.
Btw 4 nodes (representatives) control  49% addrresses. That's pretty much centralization and it's long way to decentralization.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2672512.msg28733469#msg28733469
Maybe you can read the opinion of Litecoin’s Charlie Lee! https://www.cryptoground.com/article/litecoin-creator-charlie-lee-shows-interest-in-nano

On being asked why Lee went through Nano, he replied saying someone told him to check it out - and he liked what he saw! This is a big statement coming from one of the most influential names in cryptocurrency!
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March 20, 2018, 02:16:44 AM
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Nice to see some green in Nano's Chart. What i love withi this project is, even if market would experience a 95% crash, I'd still be on profit zone. Good luck to you guys and keep pushing, 2018 can be Nano's year

At present, NANO seems to be in a stage of rising weakness. When bitcoin quickly recovered, NANO seemed to have no strength to keep up with the rhythm.
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March 20, 2018, 02:48:25 AM
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NANO has become new favorite toy for traders. Current volatility yields great profits. Hopefully will manage to break the resistance soon enough.
Just seen this coin. its crazy. from cap in 300k to 1.5 billion in on year. What happen with this coin?

Does what it says on the tin (largely), I suppose. One of late 2017/early 2018's hypecoins for sure. Will be following this one with interest, it's a real shame what's happened with Bitgrail and such though. Wish the devs and community all the best moving forward.

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No fees: The RaiBlocks network has no notion of fees.
Low latency: Transactions are natively processed instantly giving a responsive experience.
Scalability: Micropayments require a system capable of significant scalability
Simplicity: Users have a simple experience without technical jargon.

Thank you for explaine. Why they made re-brading? Does theyhave smartcontracts as well like Ethereum? They planning to launch ICO on their platform?

NANO has become new favorite toy for traders. Current volatility yields great profits. Hopefully will manage to break the resistance soon enough.
Just seen this coin. its crazy. from cap in 300k to 1.5 billion in on year. What happen with this coin?

Does what it says on the tin (largely), I suppose. One of late 2017/early 2018's hypecoins for sure. Will be following this one with interest, it's a real shame what's happened with Bitgrail and such though. Wish the devs and community all the best moving forward.

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No fees: The RaiBlocks network has no notion of fees.
Low latency: Transactions are natively processed instantly giving a responsive experience.
Scalability: Micropayments require a system capable of significant scalability
Simplicity: Users have a simple experience without technical jargon.

Thank you for explaine. Why they made re-brading? Does theyhave smartcontracts as well like Ethereum? They planning to launch ICO on their platform?

Nano doesn't have smart contracts. It's only a currency but (RaiBlocks) Nano has a   brilliant crypto motto..."Do one thing, and do it well." Grin

I'm thinking of picking up a little during the dip just to play around and see if the hype is worth it. Wink

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NANO has become new favorite toy for traders. Current volatility yields great profits. Hopefully will manage to break the resistance soon enough.
Just seen this coin. its crazy. from cap in 300k to 1.5 billion in on year. What happen with this coin?

Does what it says on the tin (largely), I suppose. One of late 2017/early 2018's hypecoins for sure. Will be following this one with interest, it's a real shame what's happened with Bitgrail and such though. Wish the devs and community all the best moving forward.

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No fees: The RaiBlocks network has no notion of fees.
Low latency: Transactions are natively processed instantly giving a responsive experience.
Scalability: Micropayments require a system capable of significant scalability
Simplicity: Users have a simple experience without technical jargon.

Thank you for explaine. Why they made re-brading? Does theyhave smartcontracts as well like Ethereum? They planning to launch ICO on their platform?

NANO has become new favorite toy for traders. Current volatility yields great profits. Hopefully will manage to break the resistance soon enough.
Just seen this coin. its crazy. from cap in 300k to 1.5 billion in on year. What happen with this coin?

Does what it says on the tin (largely), I suppose. One of late 2017/early 2018's hypecoins for sure. Will be following this one with interest, it's a real shame what's happened with Bitgrail and such though. Wish the devs and community all the best moving forward.

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No fees: The RaiBlocks network has no notion of fees.
Low latency: Transactions are natively processed instantly giving a responsive experience.
Scalability: Micropayments require a system capable of significant scalability
Simplicity: Users have a simple experience without technical jargon.

Thank you for explaine. Why they made re-brading? Does theyhave smartcontracts as well like Ethereum? They planning to launch ICO on their platform?

Nano doesn't have smart contracts. It's only a currency but (RaiBlocks) Nano has a   brilliant crypto motto..."Do one thing, and do it well." Grin

I'm thinking of picking up a little during the dip just to play around and see if the hype is worth it. Wink


To play around you can just use test coins transfer of 0.000001 nano to see the beauty of this... even small txns are possible with no fees and instant transfers

Its really amazing technology for sure

Nano is a pure currency so no smart contracts and ICO...it is one thing and very good at it.
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XRB makes block chain applications more extensible, and zero transaction costs attract a large number of supporters.
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Latest version of Beta desktop wallet released to testers

https://www.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/85r6yf/nano_desktop_beta_6_released_to_beta_testers/

Fixes are:

The QR code issue. This turned out to simply be a visual bug only with the displayed address missing a single character. The address generated from the QR code and the address copied to clipboard were all correct and represented the actual address of the account. In fact, there was no actual method to get the wrong account address other than physically typing it from the address displayed. Along with fixing this issue multiple tests were also added.

The "BSOD," as some users dubbed much to my chagrin. This bug prevented the account carousel from displaying at all, causing some users to believe the app the had somehow crashed. In reality, it ended up being a relatively minor bug from some invalid logic used in a currency localization library when certain NANO amounts contained decimals and no integer component. I've added several tests to ensure something similar doesn't happen again.

The "forever loading" account card. This was one of the known bugs mentioned in beta 5's release notes. This was a particularly nasty bug only because it was hard to replicate during development and as such I didn't anticipate it being particularly frustrating for users. In the wild however, it was the second most common issue reported. In the future I'll refrain from making assumptions.

The second known bug mentioned in the release notes, user interaction immediately after launching being ignored, has also been resolved. We have a much more robust mechanism to detect when the app is actually ready.

Running alongside the current wallet. A few users occasionally test the beta while the non-beta Nano wallet is open. The app was always meant to be able to run alongside the current wallet as it maintains a completely separate state, however there was a bug preventing it from becoming ready when the current wallet was running. Tangentially related to the previous bug, this bug has also been squashed.

Account address copy notification. One feature that didn't make the cut from the last beta's builds is a notification when the account address has been copied. I've added notifications, prevented transitions during copy and added tooltips and accessibility data to make it more apparent.

Animation transitions should be smoother. We're continuing to refine and optimize the transitions. In fact, we're slowly optimizing several areas of the app as they come up during testing, as there's plenty of low-hanging fruit right now in terms of optimization potential.
Many smaller fixes and improvements.
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March 20, 2018, 11:55:33 AM
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I got ban for saying truth on xrb so the best is to post here.

Double Deposit on Binance 14th March.

It's funny how +B reacts "There is no double spend" and don't even the read the message properly before he speaks.

https://prnt.sc/irhe44

https://prnt.sc/irhe9x

https://prnt.sc/irhegm

Image of double deposits:

1. https://imgur.com/a/TTv4P

2. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/370266023905198085/423607805199646720/Screen_Shot_2018-03-14_at_23.14.31.png

It's not the Nano's network that caused this. It is the NANO wallet implementation of Binance. It is not easy to integrate a decentralized ledger service into a single database system like an exchange, bugs will appear especially with new tech like Nano.

Yes, I don' t ununderstand why some people have doubts about nano network. It always worked perfectly, even when there was no exchange. It's hard to integrate this new kind of blockchain or at least harder than bitcoin clone.

I guess you don't know how many issues xrb nano had before. It was never always worked perfectly.
Btw 4 nodes (representatives) control  49% addrresses. That's pretty much centralization and it's long way to decentralization.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2672512.msg28733469#msg28733469
Maybe you can read the opinion of Litecoin’s Charlie Lee! https://www.cryptoground.com/article/litecoin-creator-charlie-lee-shows-interest-in-nano

On being asked why Lee went through Nano, he replied saying someone told him to check it out - and he liked what he saw! This is a big statement coming from one of the most influential names in cryptocurrency!


There is a lot of FUD being spread by ignorant people posting some 49% screenshots and saying "4 nodes (representatives) control  49% addrresse"


This is horse shit, what they control is the voting weight and "not the addresses"
If these people cannot take it upon themselves to understand the difference they must refrain from making comments on things they have no idea about

Every coin suffers from some sort of decentralisation, Bitcoin has 1 miner manufacturing controlling 100% of the hash power and apparently even has a kill switch built into their miner( much decentralisation lol) and also 10 mining pools control 98% of all the hash power
I will not talk about the centralisation issues of Eth and other coins which are obvious. 

Nano is a relatively new currency and only a reference wallet as existed now which has automatically set the representatives for each account, and only in the last 4 months there has been external develpoers making wallets like nanovault, canoe, etc..

In Nano,  more 3rd party wallets are used, the voting power concentration will come down.
This is not something that can be done over night. 

What is to be appreciated is that the coin provides an option for decentralisation. Its upto the users to change their reps 
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March 20, 2018, 11:59:17 AM
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I also had some reservation but those are cleared already after Charlie Lee shared his review. It is matter of rebounding the market and it will be all the way up where it was once at the start of the year. At current price one can buy limited coins but I consider it safe buying here at least now.
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March 20, 2018, 11:10:37 PM
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Nano Roadmap!!!!
https://developers.nano.org/roadmap


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March 20, 2018, 11:58:17 PM
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I have problem syncing the nano wallet. is there a chain I can download in order to speed up the process?
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March 21, 2018, 12:22:47 AM
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I have problem syncing the nano wallet. is there a chain I can download in order to speed up the process?

save your seed!

guide
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sP1z9S011f1W_0nK1KJ-UCJbjaNmk8GQ
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March 21, 2018, 08:34:25 AM
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I have problem syncing the nano wallet. is there a chain I can download in order to speed up the process?

Backup your seed. Do this in Accounts, Backup/Clipboard wallet seed. Just save the seed somewhere safe. Then quit your wallet.

Go here https://yadi.sk/d/fcZgyES73Jzj5T and download the  file.

Extract the linux file so you have data.idb

Now this is the part everyone has a problem with, but there is a very easy way to do it. You need to drop this data.idb file into your raiblocks application to replace the existing file. The very easy way is this: Open a new finder windew. In the menu bar click 'Go'. Now press Alt and you'll see a new option 'Library' appear in the dropdown menu. Go to library. In library find Raiblocks. Open it, and drop the new date.idb into this folder. It will overwrite the existing data.idb. (library on Mac is hidden by default so you can't mess things up, this is why this part stumps some people. Particularly as the solution usually involves using Terminal)
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March 21, 2018, 09:53:27 AM
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hey guys is there a Wallet for Nano ?
or do you guys just keep your tokens in the exchange ?

what are storage options for Nano.
I am really interested to buy !
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