Why voting for the liar?

[valta4065]

I do not see any cult of enthusiam around Trump.  I see people leaning toward voting for him for practical reasons.  For example, Republican voters have not seen Congress or the Senate effectively working against any of Obama's proposals or legislation, even though they promised they would.  That makes no sense. 

So leaning against the "establishment," they lean toward Trump. 

That was the center of my question. And that's what I understood from Galdur. I had the impression that people really loved and trusted him and I didn't understand that.

"loved and trusted?"

I see him as a businessman, looking and talking and acting like one.  That's completely a different point of view than the perspective of a politician trying to get votes.

Trump will get a huge turn out to vote for him because of this.  Therefore, he is the best candidate for the Republican party.  Curiously, the Republican party "establishment" doesn't have a clue about this, and are still trying to engineer a means to a different candidate - one that the voters would not turn out for, who would easily be beaten by the democratic machine.

So the typical mudslinging and smearing, including such as this thread calling Trump a liar, simply will not work with these dynamics in play.

That was not the goal of this thread. It was mainly to understand the popularity of Trump.

But yeah when you see how Wilikon is, "loved" seems like an underestimation. It really seems like a personality cult to me.

So the threat entitled "Why vote for the liar?" has an honest and above board purpose?

There is an implicit logical fallacy here, shown by the example -

"Are you still beating your wife?"

No, the thread was here to understand why people love Trump. But the thread title also reflects my hate of the US and their politics

[valta4065]

I hate to support someone like Trump (mainly because I think the chemical product he uses in his hair has made him insane). I just don't see any other choices. Every time I hear Bernie Sanders speak all I can think of is, Who is John Galt? Hitlery Cunton is clearly just an outright unqualified flounder. So who's left to vote for?

Yeah seems like a good reason.

From what I saw, most people are Trumpers by default, because they don't have other choices, it's ok I mean I can't argue with that, politicians are all horrible liars that will fuck you from behind.

What I can't understand are the people like Wilikon who simply seems in love with Trump xD

[Spendulus]

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No, the thread was here to understand why people love Trump. But the thread title also reflects my hate of the US and their politics

Yes, you are quite a hater.

Your fresh logical error is called...

"Poisoning the well."

Cheers.

[QuestionAuthority]

I hate to support someone like Trump (mainly because I think the chemical product he uses in his hair has made him insane). I just don't see any other choices. Every time I hear Bernie Sanders speak all I can think of is, Who is John Galt? Hitlery Cunton is clearly just an outright unqualified flounder. So who's left to vote for?

Yeah seems like a good reason.

From what I saw, most people are Trumpers by default, because they don't have other choices, it's ok I mean I can't argue with that, politicians are all horrible liars that will fuck you from behind.

What I can't understand are the people like Wilikon who simply seems in love with Trump xD

Maybe they use the same hair product. lol

Know What’s In Your Hair Products Mr. Trump. rofl

hair products
Every day many of us use personal care products that contain potentially harmful ingredients. Think about how many personal care products you use in a single day, a year and over your lifetime. Small amounts of toxic chemicals add up and can accumulate in our bodies.

Of the 10,500 chemical ingredients used in the personal care products, just 11% have been assessed for health and safety. Hundreds of chemicals – some safe and some known to be hazardous – are present in our personal care products. Because countless new compounds are developed each year, it’s hard for consumers to know about them all.

[landoadog]

Every politician is a liar,they will just says sweet words to gain public trust and when they are sitting on the golden chair all that they said are just myth.

[Wilikon]

I hate to support someone like Trump (mainly because I think the chemical product he uses in his hair has made him insane). I just don't see any other choices. Every time I hear Bernie Sanders speak all I can think of is, Who is John Galt? Hitlery Cunton is clearly just an outright unqualified flounder. So who's left to vote for?

Who am I to QuestionAuthority...
 

[QuestionAuthority]

I hate to support someone like Trump (mainly because I think the chemical product he uses in his hair has made him insane). I just don't see any other choices. Every time I hear Bernie Sanders speak all I can think of is, Who is John Galt? Hitlery Cunton is clearly just an outright unqualified flounder. So who's left to vote for?

Who am I to QuestionAuthority...
 

I support your position. lol

[KiwiParty]

I hate to support someone like Trump (mainly because I think the chemical product he uses in his hair has made him insane). I just don't see any other choices. Every time I hear Bernie Sanders speak all I can think of is, Who is John Galt? Hitlery Cunton is clearly just an outright unqualified flounder. So who's left to vote for?

Hitlery Cunton?
By all means, this is the reason why we need this woman.
But you should really try to find a better approach in describing this person, who served her country for many years.
I didnt know you already did excel that, or why did you belittle her? are you insane?

[Betwrong]

Here are the profiles of Sanders and Trump on Politifact.

Tell me just one thing you Trumpers, how do you justify that nearly 80% of what Trump says is at least mostly false?

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/bernie-s/

Is there any justification for that?

All politicians are liars IMO, to an extent of course. But we should go and vote for some of them because we don't want to live in chaos. So the question is not who is telling the truth and who is a liar, but who of them lies less.

[Hganz11]

All politicians are liars in my opinion everything is corrupt

[KiwiParty]

All politicians are liars in my opinion everything is corrupt

This is called is fatalism.
You should try Friedrich Nietzsches writings.
Or try to do something spontaneous. Just be free, if thats possible. 

[QuestionAuthority]

I hate to support someone like Trump (mainly because I think the chemical product he uses in his hair has made him insane). I just don't see any other choices. Every time I hear Bernie Sanders speak all I can think of is, Who is John Galt? Hitlery Cunton is clearly just an outright unqualified flounder. So who's left to vote for?

Hitlery Cunton?
By all means, this is the reason why we need this woman.
But you should really try to find a better approach in describing this person, who served her country for many years.
I didnt know you already did excel that, or why did you belittle her? are you insane?

Some light reading for you:

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2015/04/25/hillarys-act-of-treason/

http://www.hngn.com/articles/105123/20150629/hillary-clinton-may-have-committed-treason-in-benghazi-by-facilitting-weapons-sales-to-rebels-who-killed-americans.htm

http://eaglerising.com/31008/hillary-clinton-queen-of-corruption-murder-treason-and-voter-fraud/

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-clinton-charged-muslim-brotherhood-conspiracy/

https://www.change.org/p/to-file-treason-charges-against-hillary-kerry-mccain-and-obama

[valta4065]

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No, the thread was here to understand why people love Trump. But the thread title also reflects my hate of the US and their politics

Yes, you are quite a hater.

How could it be otherwise?

Usa is responsible for the down of Europe since 1950, hard to do anything but hate you 

[stevegreer]

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No, the thread was here to understand why people love Trump. But the thread title also reflects my hate of the US and their politics

Yes, you are quite a hater.

How could it be otherwise?

Usa is responsible for the down of Europe since 1950, hard to do anything but hate you 

The US is responsible for the crap Europe is in? Liberal logic right there. I think Europe is responsible for their own crap.

[valta4065]

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No, the thread was here to understand why people love Trump. But the thread title also reflects my hate of the US and their politics

Yes, you are quite a hater.

How could it be otherwise?

Usa is responsible for the down of Europe since 1950, hard to do anything but hate you 

The US is responsible for the crap Europe is in? Liberal logic right there. I think Europe is responsible for their own crap.

In a sense you're right. Because our post WW2 leaders were too weak to refuse the "help" of US which brought us nothing but the death of our culture and our economy.

Now all countries became capitalist shit. They only talk about productivity and growth. They forgot centuries of fight and ideals. All for money.

Thanks to who? Who is behind the economists saying the dumpest shit possible like "growth is the future"? Who imposed the $ as the new gold?

[Spendulus]

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No, the thread was here to understand why people love Trump. But the thread title also reflects my hate of the US and their politics

Yes, you are quite a hater.

How could it be otherwise?

Usa is responsible for the down of Europe since 1950, hard to do anything but hate you  

That's genuinely some pretty weird thinking.  Also a logical error called broad brushing, extreme generalization.  I suspect you are young, immature, and don't have much experience with the world.

Buy you are not alone.  Lot of other people hate "The Great Satan" and such bullshit.

[Wilikon]

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No, the thread was here to understand why people love Trump. But the thread title also reflects my hate of the US and their politics

Yes, you are quite a hater.

How could it be otherwise?

Usa is responsible for the down of Europe since 1950, hard to do anything but hate you 

The US is responsible for the crap Europe is in? Liberal logic right there. I think Europe is responsible for their own crap.

In a sense you're right. Because our post WW2 leaders were too weak to refuse the "help" of US which brought us nothing but the death of our culture and our economy.

Now all countries became capitalist shit. They only talk about productivity and growth. They forgot centuries of fight and ideals. All for money.

Thanks to who? Who is behind the economists saying the dumpest shit possible like "growth is the future"? Who imposed the $ as the new gold?

Europe was too weak after the war to face a new enemy by itself: the USSR. A massive American reconstruction program of buildings, economies and minds took place, while europe was facing the real possibility of a total invasion from the soviets. I believe you forgot about this tiny, of no importance detail called "the cold war". You forgot about NATO and the reason of its existence.

Your useless hate (hate is a useless waste of energy I believe) should focus on your own ignorance, thus transforming it into a new enlightenment called knowledge of historical facts 101.

[yugo23]

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No, the thread was here to understand why people love Trump. But the thread title also reflects my hate of the US and their politics

Yes, you are quite a hater.

How could it be otherwise?

Usa is responsible for the down of Europe since 1950, hard to do anything but hate you 

The US is responsible for the crap Europe is in? Liberal logic right there. I think Europe is responsible for their own crap.

In a sense you're right. Because our post WW2 leaders were too weak to refuse the "help" of US which brought us nothing but the death of our culture and our economy.

Now all countries became capitalist shit. They only talk about productivity and growth. They forgot centuries of fight and ideals. All for money.

Thanks to who? Who is behind the economists saying the dumpest shit possible like "growth is the future"? Who imposed the $ as the new gold?

Europe was too weak after the war to face a new enemy by itself: the USSR. A massive American reconstruction program of buildings, economies and minds took place, while europe was facing the real possibility of a total invasion from the soviets. I believe you forgot about this tiny, of no importance detail called "the cold war". You forgot about NATO and the reason of its existence.

Your useless hate (hate is a useless waste of energy I believe) should focus on your own ignorance, thus transforming it into a new enlightenment called knowledge of historical facts 101.

Seems like you deeply lack knowledge of historical facts if you believe Marshall plan was "A massive American reconstruction program of buildings, economies". It was a leash put around Europe. Nothing more.

[Daniel91]

In my opinion all politicians are liars.
It's true in every country in the world.
It's their job to lie to the people and give them false hopes and promises when reality is different.
If someone will try to be honest and say truth, nobody will believe him and he will loose elections.
Nobody wants to hear bad news,it's human nature.
Even in difficult circumstances people search for false hopes and promises.
Trump is not better or worst from other politicians.
He just talk to much and accuse everybody and it seems people like this style

 

[yugo23]

In my opinion all politicians are liars.
It's true in every country in the world.
It's their job to lie to the people and give them false hopes and promises when reality is different.
If someone will try to be honest and say truth, nobody will believe him and he will loose elections.
Nobody wants to hear bad news,it's human nature.
Even in difficult circumstances people search for false hopes and promises.
Trump is not better or worst from other politicians.
He just talk to much and accuse everybody and it seems people like this style

 

That's why we shouldn't have politician but men of the state!
And direct democracy. that would be 1000 times better.