What do you think about 9/11 mystery?

[Spendulus]

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So 9/11 stands for september 2011? XD

Oh god you crazy people should check your mental health....

Just stop now because you dont even fucking know when 9/11 happened.

+1

I'm not even AGAINSt CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

Damn....

[arbitrage]

@Spendulus
This is no conspiracy theory, what do you think why people talking such things, because they don't have nothing else to do or they suspect in official version.
US government is responsible for waging wars around the world, and motive is "spreading of democracy"
(and extraction of oil but this is not important).
Something sinister like this is surely capable to this to its people also.

[tvbcof]

@Spendulus
This is no conspiracy theory, what do you think why people talking such things, because they don't have nothing else to do or they suspect in official version.
US government is responsible for waging wars around the world, and motive is "spreading of democracy"
(and extraction of oil but this is not important).
Something sinister like this is surely capable to this to its people also.

Well put in spite of it being fairly clear that English is not your first language.

I believe that citizens cannot make rational decisions based on false information.  I believe that the United States embarked in earnest on a series of efforts in the Middle East and in other parts of the world which did not serve the interests of the citizens at large, and I believe that the 9/11 false flag was the kingpin which made this possible.  As long as people remain are vulnerable to these types of psychological operations, they and our nation will be at risk for the same type of misfortune going forward.

I have a somewhat nuanced view of these things.  I believe it to be most likely the case that we would have experienced an economic collapse probably 10 years ago had we not 'done' Iraq.  So, it is at least arguable that it was 'in our best interest', but I would take the counter-point.  Had we experienced a collapse 10 years ago, we would probably be in the re-building phase now.  We did not 'stop' a catastrophe but rather simply kicked the can down the road.  We also did extreme damage to our place in the world which will be forever damaging to many millions of Americans and non-Americans alike.  To put it in metaphysical terms, we 'sold our soul'.  Or, considering Vietnam and like operations, at least we made another scheduled transaction.

[arbitrage]

I'm sorry for those poor people that lost their lives in 9/11 event.
But this might not be end, this is basic psychology of crime if pass first time, will pass again. Us citizens must open their eyes and stop madness in the world. Or they will face disasters again and somebody else will be guilty, maybe KIM?!

 Well put in spite of it being fairly clear that English is not your first language.

  I believe that the 9/11 false flag was the kingpin which made this possible. 

I'm not hiding this fact, and my country was victim of US tyranny also.
I'm not hater just somebody who had chance to see how US intervention can bring democracy with bombs.

[magnific61]

Eye witness' say that " it was a small plane" " it was like a small plane like i haven't seen before" " it was a missile"
Only 5 channels broadcasted that attack as live.  Cnn, Fox, Abc,  Cbc, Bbc broadcasted the attack together by 17 seconds delaying. Those media organs broadcasted you  2D animation videos.

I believe this is edited in studio. Those videos are seen many times and they become a truth over time. So many believe they saw a plane, but maybe that was drone or something like this.
You can see differences when you looking from different angles, different videos.

Do you know 158 JASSM missile? It is ilike a small passenger plane.  Remember what eye witness' said

[Omega.SportSciencie]

Why do people still call "conspiracy theories" the facts of 9/11 , they dont want to believe? Or just cant believe the reality?

Theres a card from Steve jackson game from 1995 pointing to ridicule the people who will expose their actions

[Iseecookies]

Problem with conspiracy theories is you start to see them everywhere and Alex Jones is a prime example of that.
I used to listen to his podcast and found myself getting more irate and irritable,with each week.
The people that call in are a good representation of downtrodden folks looking for a reason why life has held them back.
Its kind of sad when you listen to them go on and on about stuff to get praise from Alex.

9/11 created a whole wack of conspiracy nuts and I think its due to how unbelievable that the event happened so close to home for a majority of us. So we look to rationalize what went down,recall watching the plane like it was die hard movie over and over. The reason behind it will never really be known,look at JFK and how they still ponder that.

[ijphlrnxewho]

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/gold.html
https://911justicehalifax.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/wtc-9-11-biggest-gold-heist-in-history/
http://www.rense.com/general16/cacheofgold.htm
http://americanfreepress.net/how-much-gold-was-under-wtc-complex/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x73178
http://nymag.com/news/9-11/10th-anniversary/gold/
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18132
http://911review.com/motive/gold.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cantor-fitzgerald-ceo-and-the-aftermath-of-9-11/
http://globalslaves.blogspot.com/2012/01/trillion-dollar-lawsuit-against.html

What happened to the Gold under the World Trade Center?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs022aKCZxk

[BADecker]

Problem with conspiracy theories is you start to see them everywhere and Alex Jones is a prime example of that.
I used to listen to his podcast and found myself getting more irate and irritable,with each week.
The people that call in are a good representation of downtrodden folks looking for a reason why life has held them back.
Its kind of sad when you listen to them go on and on about stuff to get praise from Alex.

9/11 created a whole wack of conspiracy nuts and I think its due to how unbelievable that the event happened so close to home for a majority of us. So we look to rationalize what went down,recall watching the plane like it was die hard movie over and over. The reason behind it will never really be known,look at JFK and how they still ponder that.

No, it was the conspiracy nuts that got together and created 9/11. Then they created one of the worst conspiracy theories around, and called it the official 9/11 story.

[Spendulus]

Do you know 158 JASSM missile? It is ilike a small passenger plane. 

NO it's not.  It's shorter than a car and about a half meter in diameter.  If that was coming you'd quite likely never even see it.

And it would go between the beams of the twin towers...

Let's get realistic here.

[Spendulus]

@Spendulus
This is no conspiracy theory, what do you think why people talking such things, because they don't have nothing else to do or they suspect in official version.
US government is responsible for waging wars around the world, and motive is "spreading of democracy"
(and extraction of oil but this is not important).
Something sinister like this is surely capable to this to its people also.

I understand this point of view and do not agree with it.

However even if you accept that "Nation X is capable of great evil, therefore it could have been responsible for event Y" this has nothing to do with whether "event y" happened as described, or was something different.  And it has nothing to do with who actually did it.

911 conspiracy theories as you can see are all over the place.  There were planes, there were not planes.  It happened in 2001, it happened in 2011.   There were puddles of molten steel, there were not.  There was planned demolition, there was not.

All of these are based on false pretenses. 

None of that says that it is implossible that some US government agency could not have directed through intermediaries 20 Muslim terrorists who did the event.  I do not believe this, I am just trying to clarify that discussion of physical mechanisms of building failure does not answer that question.

Of course if a wacky 911 theory requires hiding the planes somewhere and hitting the buildings with missiles that only the US has, then that theory will fail the tests of evidence.  By the way, high explosives have distinct signatures in rubble...

[magnific61]

no plane was seen in amateur videos.
There was plane in only tv broadcasts which delayed 17 seconds
I saw a helicopter when second crash happened.

[st4nl3y]

^

So 9/11 stands for september 2011? XD

Oh god you crazy people should check your mental health....

Just stop now because you dont even fucking know when 9/11 happened.

+1

I'm not even AGAINSt CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

Damn....

Yeah, 9/11 stands for 11th of September 2001 as if you didn't know. Spendulus got his facts mangled up again, he really needs that mental health check.

@Spendulus Why don't you answer my questions to you regarding building 7 ??

[Spendulus]

^

So 9/11 stands for september 2011? XD

Oh god you crazy people should check your mental health....

Just stop now because you dont even fucking know when 9/11 happened.

+1

I'm not even AGAINSt CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

Damn....

Yeah, 9/11 stands for September 2011 as if you didn't know. Spendulus got his facts mangled up again, he really needs that mental health check.

@Spendulus Why don't you answer my questions to you regarding building 7 ??

Because I don't have an opinion on what happened to building 7 on September 2011?

[Spendulus]

I believe that citizens cannot make rational decisions based on false information.  I believe that the United States embarked in earnest on a series of efforts in the Middle East and in other parts of the world which did not serve the interests of the citizens at large, and I believe that the 9/11 false flag was the kingpin which made this possible.  As long as people remain are vulnerable to these types of psychological operations, they and our nation will be at risk for the same type of misfortune going forward.

I have a somewhat nuanced view of these things.  I believe it to be most likely the case that we would have experienced an economic collapse probably 10 years ago had we not 'done' Iraq.  So, it is at least arguable that it was 'in our best interest', but I would take the counter-point.  Had we experienced a collapse 10 years ago, we would probably be in the re-building phase now.  We did not 'stop' a catastrophe but rather simply kicked the can down the road.  We also did extreme damage to our place in the world which will be forever damaging to many millions of Americans and non-Americans alike.  To put it in metaphysical terms, we 'sold our soul'.  Or, considering Vietnam and like operations, at least we made another scheduled transaction.

Miss the distinction between X being a causative action, and "let no crisis go to waste."

[TECSHARE]

2001 you fucking retards.

[BADecker]

2001 you fucking retards.

9/11/01
9/11/2001
11/09/2001 - European form

[BADecker]

9/11 is a reminder of two major things.

There will always be people among us who don't care who they harm, or for what reason. We need to be watchful, and not get sucked into their schemes. The second thing is a thing that the schemers need to be watchful about as well.

Everybody dies. Like as we don't know how to stop death, we don't know what might be beyond death. Focus on finding out about that which is beyond death. And do it especially if you are one of the dangerous schemers. Because it might be painful to those who harm other people.

[TECSHARE]

2001 you fucking retards.

9/11/01
9/11/2001
11/09/2001 - European form

Yeah, 9/11 stands for September 2011...

So Europeans add 10 years? That explains everything.

[st4nl3y]

2001 you fucking retards.

9/11/01
9/11/2001
11/09/2001 - European form

Yeah, 9/11 stands for September 2011...

So Europeans add 10 years? That explains everything.

I meant to say 2001. Got carried away with all this talk about building 7