Pietpiraat
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April 05, 2016, 01:36:22 PM |
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It's funny reading all the drama going on in the lisk thread. I think everyone's upset about the delay because now they can't dump their lisks for waves. lol
Both coins will generate a lot of revenue for all of us Both Lisk and Waves 2017 will look like : Februari - July Lisk = $10 Waves = $10,01
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trademark
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April 05, 2016, 01:39:48 PM |
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It's funny reading all the drama going on in the lisk thread. I think everyone's upset about the delay because now they can't dump their lisks for waves. lol
Both coins will generate a lot of revenue for all of us Both Lisk and Waves 2017 will look like : Februari - July Lisk = $10 Waves = $10,01 More like: Waves =
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Ris88
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April 05, 2016, 03:05:54 PM |
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I have not seen this has a great community like LISK, just look at the admin is not very active here and welcome the community to help the campaign of this project, but at least this is cool
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mxxxxxx
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April 05, 2016, 03:07:14 PM |
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There will be countdown on pre ICO site. You will be able to sync then. Thanks
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April 05, 2016, 03:58:31 PM |
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orryde
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April 05, 2016, 04:01:30 PM |
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after reading the waves article i think I will pass on this project. If felt more like a press release then an article written about waves. Totally put me off. Whoever decided to have that put in the magazine i think made a big mistake.
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iTradeChips
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April 05, 2016, 04:21:30 PM |
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Hi devs. Any bounty for translating to Filipino? there are so many pinoys here so that would help promote the coin.
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RATM69
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April 05, 2016, 04:27:37 PM |
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As an investor I'd feel scammed if I invested in Waves and here is why. On the just released blog message you wrote; "What about blokchain tokens of our own? Do we want WAVES to be the value transfer token? NO: for that we have Bitcoin. Money transfer is the first killer app of blockchain technology. It won’t be the last, but still it will dominate blockchain tech for years to come. But one thing is obvious here, ONE (or a few) cryptocurrencies should be used as a currency, otherwise the network effect which is needed for something to be used as a currency will never be realised. We’ll be doing our bit to help Bitcoin become the first INTERnational currency (as opposed to NATIONAL currencies). It will be deeply integrated in our platform through a corresponding token, backed by Bitcoin multisig technology and a reputable Bitcoin exchange. It can’t be made fully decentralized for now, but we will integrate Bitcoin into a new ecosystem where it can be traded, in a decentralized way, against blockchain tokens — effectively creating a decentralized cryptocurrency exchange/crowfdfunding platform. Our killer feature is the ability to trade any token against another token on the blockchain (asset-to-asset). It opens up new dimensions for doing business on blockchains, effectively replicating traditional markets and making Bitcoin trading decentralized." This implies that there will be absolutely nothing special or unique about Waves tokens, so why the hell should I invest in buying them? To me it just feels like investors got to put in a lot of money buying worthless Waves tokens so you guys can make an innovative platform. Seems to me it's not worth it to invest, like I mentioned in my previous posts, you got to give Waves tokens functionality. If you refuse to do so, it's like investing in air, it's nothing, it has no intrinsic value or purpose other than funding you guys... No, that passage you just quoted does not imply that there will be nothing special about Waves tokens. Just to the contrary, indeed. That passage explains what makes Waves tokens special and unique. As you have quoted, and I suppose you have read the paragraph you quoted, "Our killer feature is the ability to trade any token against another token on the blockchain (asset-to-asset)." So explain to me what can I do with Waves tokens on the platform that I can't do with bitcoin, dogecoin or shitcoin? Because the text seems to clearly imply that bitcoin will have special functionality and all other crypto currencies on the platform (including Waves tokens) are equal.? You can't really do anything without WAVES tokens, since everything is run using them - all tx fees, all asset issuance and transfer, everything. We will support other "money" crypto besides Bitcoin too ( DASH, Litecoin and Dogecoin seem to be a good choice now), but obviously Bitcoin transfers will dominate (at least in near future) What can we do for Bitcoin - we enable decentralized trading against bitcoin. so it's like decentralized bittrex! So I can't pay fees, issue assets or transfer assets with other crypto currencies or fiat tokens? Can you confirm this? Waves token is the fuel for the whole platform and all operations happening there. When you are doing any of the things mentioned above Waves token is used, when you will be trading with other crypto currencies or fiat which will be represented there as tokens, Waves token will be used, when you are transferring assets, Waves token is used, when you are withdrawing asset in form of currency to your wallet, Waves token is used. When someone is issuing the asset Waves token is used. When all other projects will be using Waves platform, the same Waves token will be used for all their operations. Other currencies will be just supported on the platform. "when I buy Waves tokens I own a coin that has less functionality than for example dogecoin" i won`t comment Thank you, now that's an unambiguous answer Can we please have a "John" & "Jane" example of this asset-to-asset exchange and the use of WAVES to do this? Because to me it sounds more like just an exchange of assets. I fully understand their use on the crowdfunding platform. It's the asset-to-asset "exchange" or "swap" and the use of WAVES for this i can't wrap my brain around. Thanks
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s0nix
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April 05, 2016, 04:33:33 PM |
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Interesting project. The documentation and the ICO reminds me a little of Lisk, but no problem - I'm in-
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rlh
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April 05, 2016, 05:28:08 PM |
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Exactly. Waves is more futuristic.
lol, cmon now. You can do asset-asset tradingI regarded it as the most import features that waves provide. So asset price will not be influenced by price of wave token. Qora had this feature and at one point I wanted to create a couple of peg currencies for Qora to USD, GBP and BTC. After that, I wanted to setup, internal markets for assets that were virtual representations of real world commodities such as gold, silver, oil, LTC, DOGE, etc. The idea was that I would you could take your Qora and buy the fiat asset at a floating spot-price, that was pegged based off of currency price APIs from various exchanges. You could then use your virtual USD/GBP/BTC to buy commodity or alt-coin assets strictly with those assets, rather than the parent currency (Qora.) This means that the price for Qora (or in this case, it would be Waze) could fluctuate but so long as a sub-market in the blockchain if valued off of a pegged asset (USD, BTC, etc.) the price of your investment was stabilized. The only risk is trusting that the issuer will keep a trustworthy spread and not back out. But, even if the issuer disappeared, this wouldn't be a big deal if the markets were active, well established, and everyone already had tools in place to monitor real-world markets and move the markets on their own. I didn't do this because of time and (honestly) regulations. It's the price I pay for living in the US.
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A Personal Quote on BTT from 2011: "I'd be willing to make a moderate "investment" if the value of the BTC went below $2.00. Otherwise I'll just have to live with my 5 BTC and be happy. :/" ...sigh. If only I knew.
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farl4web
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April 05, 2016, 05:41:07 PM |
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Exactly. Waves is more futuristic.
lol, cmon now. You can do asset-asset trading(like real trading, not conversion) and create asset, crowdfund your project with fiat tokens there ? lol from when ? Also can you issue loyalty tokens and pay fees in that token also ? Do they have reputation system for this also ? Are they using unique tech solving probably blockchain bloat problem ? Asset to asset or coin to coin trading will also be possible in Nxt at the end of the year with Nxt 2.0 ( the inspiration for Waves). Why is Waves better in this?
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April 05, 2016, 06:11:18 PM |
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Exactly. Waves is more futuristic.
lol, cmon now. You can do asset-asset trading(like real trading, not conversion) and create asset, crowdfund your project with fiat tokens there ? lol from when ? Also can you issue loyalty tokens and pay fees in that token also ? Do they have reputation system for this also ? Are they using unique tech solving probably blockchain bloat problem ? Asset to asset or coin to coin trading will also be possible in Nxt at the end of the year with Nxt 2.0 ( the inspiration for Waves). Why is Waves better in this? Waves will be platform with emphasis on custom token creation, transfer and decentralized trading, with deep fiat integration, focus on crowdfunding, community-backed projects and mass adoption. Fiat assets will be backed by third-parties, payment systems, and banks. Fiat tokens on Waves blockchain will be right at launch. One of the goals will be also to create a protocol for token/asset transfer between blockchains. Imagine you have a token on NXT, ETH platform and would like to move this token to BTC colored coins or Waves blockchain. Assets issued on existing blokchains will be able to be transferred if protocol is implemented on both sides and you can enjoy then features of many blockchains at the same time.
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buddu
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April 05, 2016, 06:14:06 PM |
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I will share my 2 cents suggestion regarding bounties.I will say there should be some deadline regarding social media campaign to make it attractive and transparent for early supporters.If I followed on twitter one week ago and other is joining at ICO launch should not be treated same way.This will make make it transparent.One possible way to finish joining social media bounties at start of ICO.
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farl4web
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April 05, 2016, 06:20:57 PM |
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Exactly. Waves is more futuristic.
lol, cmon now. You can do asset-asset trading(like real trading, not conversion) and create asset, crowdfund your project with fiat tokens there ? lol from when ? Also can you issue loyalty tokens and pay fees in that token also ? Do they have reputation system for this also ? Are they using unique tech solving probably blockchain bloat problem ? Asset to asset or coin to coin trading will also be possible in Nxt at the end of the year with Nxt 2.0 ( the inspiration for Waves). Why is Waves better in this? Waves will be platform with emphasis on custom token creation, transfer and decentralized trading, with deep fiat integration, focus on crowdfunding, community-backed projects and mass adoption. Fiat assets will be backed by third-parties, payment systems, and banks. Fiat tokens on Waves blockchain will be right at launch. One of the goals will be also to create a protocol for token/asset transfer between blockchains. Imagine you have a token on NXT, ETH platform and would like to move this token to BTC colored coins or Waves blockchain. Assets issued on existing blokchains will be able to be transferred if protocol is implemented on both sides and you can enjoy then features of many blockchains at the same time. Yes, but you will need more third parties for that. Can I say Waves is the more centralized version on Nxt (not ment to be negative).
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April 05, 2016, 06:30:17 PM |
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So how can I apply for signature and twitter bounty campaign?
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April 05, 2016, 06:31:31 PM |
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Exactly. Waves is more futuristic.
lol, cmon now. You can do asset-asset trading(like real trading, not conversion) and create asset, crowdfund your project with fiat tokens there ? lol from when ? Also can you issue loyalty tokens and pay fees in that token also ? Do they have reputation system for this also ? Are they using unique tech solving probably blockchain bloat problem ? Asset to asset or coin to coin trading will also be possible in Nxt at the end of the year with Nxt 2.0 ( the inspiration for Waves). Why is Waves better in this? Waves will be platform with emphasis on custom token creation, transfer and decentralized trading, with deep fiat integration, focus on crowdfunding, community-backed projects and mass adoption. Fiat assets will be backed by third-parties, payment systems, and banks. Fiat tokens on Waves blockchain will be right at launch. One of the goals will be also to create a protocol for token/asset transfer between blockchains. Imagine you have a token on NXT, ETH platform and would like to move this token to BTC colored coins or Waves blockchain. Assets issued on existing blokchains will be able to be transferred if protocol is implemented on both sides and you can enjoy then features of many blockchains at the same time. Yes, but you will need more third parties for that. Can I say Waves is the more centralized version on Nxt (not ment to be negative). From my point of view, Nxt is one of the most decentralized scenario possible. Anonymous ICO and development. Built up with no (or not much) legal applicatiotion and real businesses. I think Nxt is for everybody that wants to use the Blockchain for something (data cloud, marketplace, voting system, monetary system, assets...). You have everything at once. While when you concentrate your Blockchain on Assets, you can have a Blockchain that can be slim and fast, because it does not have to deal with all the other data on it.
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tuvok007
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April 05, 2016, 07:01:23 PM |
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Just followed you now on twitter and put a sig here. So now I just wait for April 12th when ICO starts and register there?
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