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March 23, 2013, 06:36:19 PM
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I purchased the VIP membership status on the OP's forum, by his request to receive an investigation.

I requested the investigation several times (beginning of March).  OP said the service would be delivered that weekend.

That was 3 weeks ago.

I have not heard back from the OP, even though I paid him .31 btc.  I have since requested a refund, both here and on his site. 

I am extremely unhappy with this service, and I highly recommend people avoid this service.

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March 23, 2013, 06:50:00 PM
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Huh.. that is odd because the OP did an investigation on me when a 15 year old child requested one no problem.

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March 23, 2013, 06:59:22 PM
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Huh.. that is odd because the OP did an investigation on me when a 15 year old child requested one no problem.

yeah, it is weird, cause I gave him the money, I gave him the information, I talked with him via PM on both sites, he promised to deliver in a few days, and then nothing.

So, naturally, I want my money back.  I've waited over 3 weeks for him to deliver, and I'm tired of waiting for something I paid for 3 weeks ago.

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March 23, 2013, 07:05:12 PM
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Ya understandable. What is up tldoctor? Could you not find the guy? I do have to say that it sucks refunding btc. It sucks to refund .31 when the price is 75 each opposed to the 50 each from a few days ago. Just another reason that btc needs price stability. 

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March 23, 2013, 07:11:55 PM
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Ya understandable. What is up tldoctor? Could you not find the guy? I do have to say that it sucks refunding btc. It sucks to refund .31 when the price is 75 each opposed to the 50 each from a few days ago. Just another reason that btc needs price stability. 

yeah, it does suck, but the easy way to avoid that is to deliver what people request.

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March 24, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
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Ya understandable. What is up tldoctor? Could you not find the guy? I do have to say that it sucks refunding btc. It sucks to refund .31 when the price is 75 each opposed to the 50 each from a few days ago. Just another reason that btc needs price stability. 

yeah, it does suck, but the easy way to avoid that is to deliver what people request.

Sorry for the delay everyone, my company went through some changes, but we are back on track. Valcreations, I'm sorry your displeased with the service and would advise everyone to stay away from it, but once in a while I can't find someone. You have messaged me on my own forum, which I replied to more than once, you posted on my forum, which I just replied to. You have posted on here and messaged me on here. No matter how many messages you send or posts you make, doesn't change my answer. I CANNOT FIND WHO YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

I'm sorry I couldn't find the skip and I offered you, along with the other benefits of my forum (like the educational articles that teach people to skiptrace for themselves), another free skiptrace. Most of my clients are pleased. I don't feel its right for you to advise everyone to stay away from my forum when I worked hard to find the skip you needed. If I had a 100% closure rate, I'd be rich by now. I find "almost" everyone, but not everyone that I try to find.

I advised you on more than one occasion that I couldn't find the person with the limited information you provided.
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March 24, 2013, 07:25:37 PM
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Finally heard back from this guy, 2 weeks after his last communication.  Did he email me or try and contact me directly? No.  He posted on the forum that he couldn't find the person.  Roll Eyes

He has replied to me twice via PM.  Here are both messages:
March 4, 2013:
Do you have the state he lives in? And his age?

March 10, 2013:
I asked you - "Do you have the state he lives in? And his age?"

Why am I only finding out now that you can't find this person? 

And why are you refusing a refund, when you didn't provide the service I paid for?

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I advised you on more than one occasion that I couldn't find the person with the limited information you provided.
This is not true.  I never received any communication from you on either forum until now.  So, don't act like you have been communicating with me, when you haven't.

Unacceptable.

Don't order from this person, he will take your money

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March 24, 2013, 07:38:09 PM
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very revealing information about this guy:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144665.msg1625566#msg1625566

seems like a scammer to me.

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March 24, 2013, 07:46:21 PM
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Huh.. that is odd because the OP did an investigation on me when a 15 year old child requested one no problem.

Thank you, this guy is on a vendetta to make me out to be a scammer. He made other posts on this forum saying as such, then directed people to my personal information, which is annoying, but I don't have a lot to hide either way. He's a bad sport about this. I can find most everyone, but not everyone I try to find. He doesn't seem to grasp this.
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March 24, 2013, 07:58:19 PM
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Thank you, this guy is on a vendetta to make me out to be a scammer. He made other posts on this forum saying as such, then directed people to my personal information, which is annoying, but I don't have a lot to hide either way. He's a bad sport about this. I can find most everyone, but not everyone I try to find. He doesn't seem to grasp this.

you still don't get it, do you?  If I pay you, and you don't deliver (and avoid communication with me), and then refuse to refund me, then yes, you are a scammer.

To top it all off, you lie about it, and make it sound like you've been in contact with me, which is total BS.

Send me my refund, and I'll stop calling you a scammer.  It's as simple as that.

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March 24, 2013, 08:03:37 PM
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Thank you, this guy is on a vendetta to make me out to be a scammer. He made other posts on this forum saying as such, then directed people to my personal information, which is annoying, but I don't have a lot to hide either way. He's a bad sport about this. I can find most everyone, but not everyone I try to find. He doesn't seem to grasp this.

you still don't get it, do you?  If I pay you, and you don't deliver (and avoid communication with me), and then refuse to refund me, then yes, you are a scammer.

To top it all off, you lie about it, and make it sound like you've been in contact with me, which is total BS.

Send me my refund, and I'll stop calling you a scammer.  It's as simple as that.

You paid for his service, he couldn't find your person, that is the result of his service. That doesn't deserve a refund, so stop acting like a 4yr that doesn't get his way.

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March 24, 2013, 08:06:02 PM
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I was taken aback by him when he didn't respond to my PM for 2 weeks as well (actually, he *still* hasn't responded to my PM, but neither has a cute chick I asked for naked photos of earlier-- coincidence!? Probably the same person I bet...) but he did his service for free for me to show his speed, and I believe him for the most part. I have no proof he won't scam someone in the future, just like I have no proof I won't murder someone in the future, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to work in a gun store right now.

I think you were spooked, which is reasonable, but are reacting a bit unreasonably.

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March 24, 2013, 08:11:27 PM
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You paid for his service, he couldn't find your person, that is the result of his service. That doesn't deserve a refund, so stop acting like a 4yr that doesn't get his way.

so, not getting the service or the refund is the result of doing business with this guy?

It's an interesting business model, for sure.  Take people's money, don't provide anything in return, and then refuse refunds.

hmmmmm, where have I seen that before?  Huh

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March 24, 2013, 08:16:59 PM
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You paid for his service, he couldn't find your person, that is the result of his service. That doesn't deserve a refund, so stop acting like a 4yr that doesn't get his way.

so, not getting the service or the refund is the result of doing business with this guy?

If you're in the USA, try dialing "0", asking them to look up a phone number for you by giving them a business location and name, and when they can't find it because you didn't give enough info, ask the telephone company for a refund. Let me know what they tell you.

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March 24, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
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You paid for his service, he couldn't find your person, that is the result of his service. That doesn't deserve a refund, so stop acting like a 4yr that doesn't get his way.

so, not getting the service or the refund is the result of doing business with this guy?

It's an interesting business model, for sure.  Take people's money, don't provide anything in return, and then refuse refunds.

hmmmmm, where have I seen that before?  Huh
Actually, he said twice that he would give you another one for free.  Which he wasn't even required to do. 

He's refusing a refund because you paid for his service, and he gave it to you.  It doesn't matter much if you liked the result.

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March 24, 2013, 08:25:08 PM
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Better yet, if you're in the USA, dial a 900 number sex line and ask for a refund when the girl doesn't get you off. Let me know what they tell you.


In short, he's selling his time of attempting a look-up, not guaranteeing to find someone on limited criteria. You simply can't guarantee something like that, even if you were the bestest coolest superhero detective slash bounty hunter in the known universe (although some may be better than others).

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March 24, 2013, 08:25:42 PM
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Comprehensive Report:  $25 or 1.403 btc (or whatever the current equivelent of the USD price is)

Features:

- Social security number
- Criminal records if available
- Assets (what property or vehicles they own)
- Relatives and some of their info
- Phone numbers (verified)
- Associated emails
- Employment
- Current address and address history
- Neighbors and their contact info
- And more!

This is what I purchased.  Not for him to "find" someone.  I purchased a report on someone.  He didn't deliver that report.  Plain and Simple.

And really, he could have told me that wayyyy back at the beginning (3 weeks ago) when he said the skip would be done by the weekend.  Skip ahead 3 weeks, and he posts on a forum thread that he won't be delivering the report and/or a refund.

If he didn't have enough info, he could have told me.  If he didn't have enough info, then he didn't provide the service.

sorry, that's unacceptable.

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March 24, 2013, 08:26:47 PM
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He's refusing a refund because you paid for his service, and he gave it to you.  It doesn't matter much if you liked the result.
he did?  where?  I don't have a report or anything, actually.  So no, he didn't deliver the service.

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March 24, 2013, 08:28:57 PM
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He's refusing a refund because you paid for his service, and he gave it to you.  It doesn't matter much if you liked the result.
he did?  where?  I don't have a report or anything, actually.  So no, he didn't deliver the service.
He looked for the guy you asked him to look for.  He put in the work, which is what you paid for.  You didn't pay for a guaranteed result.  You paid for guaranteed work.

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March 24, 2013, 08:29:53 PM
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Comprehensive Report:  $25 or 1.403 btc (or whatever the current equivelent of the USD price is)

Features:

- Social security number
- Criminal records if available
- Assets (what property or vehicles they own)
- Relatives and some of their info
- Phone numbers (verified)
- Associated emails
- Employment
- Current address and address history
- Neighbors and their contact info
- And more!

This is what I purchased.  Not for him to "find" someone.  I purchased a report on someone.  He didn't deliver that report.  Plain and Simple.

And really, he could have told me that wayyyy back at the beginning (3 weeks ago) when he said the skip would be done by the weekend.  Skip ahead 3 weeks, and he posts on a forum thread that he won't be delivering the report and/or a refund.

If he didn't have enough info, he could have told me.  If he didn't have enough info, then he didn't provide the service.

sorry, that's unacceptable.


Yea, it seems like he dropped the ball on both customer service and on marketing.

tldoctor: Please update your advertisement to be a little less vague. Also, since you already sold a "report" which you didn't provide, just make a "report" explaining what you did find, what you didn't, why you couldn't find it, and what other options they may have to find more details they need perhaps. Then you will be released from your requirements. As it stands, it appears to a total stranger than you just blew off your responsibilities.

velacreations: Stop buying things with GOLD before the price jumps up. It will make handling inconveniences a lot easier.

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