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[SCCFX]

The official 2017 MotoGP pre-season tests will be held on the following dates and locations:

MotoGP
1. Malaysia, Sepang: January 30-February 1
2. Australia, Phillip Island: February 15-17
3. Qatar, Losail: March 10-12

Moto2/Moto3
1. Spain, Jerez: March 9-10
2. Qatar, Losail: March 17-19

The venues will thus remain the same as this season, when the second Sepang MotoGP test was replaced by a new outing at Phillip Island.

Prior to 2017, the official post-season Valencia test will be held on November 15-16.

Valencia will see Jorge Lorenzo make his Ducati debut, Maverick Vinales at Yamaha, Andrea Iannone at Suzuki, Aleix Espargaro at Aprilia, Bradley Smith and Pol Espargaro at KTM - plus the first official MotoGP laps for rookies Alex Rins, Johann Zarco, Sam Lowes and Jonas Folger.

The 2017 racing season is scheduled to begin at Losail on the evening of March 26.

if paul espargaro out from monster tech 3 yamaha
and team mate pol, bradley smith join too in KTM
who is two rider  monster tech 3 yamaha, or johan zarco and jonas folder , or same low
but alex rins join to suzuki

[bajing]

The official 2017 MotoGP pre-season tests will be held on the following dates and locations:

MotoGP
1. Malaysia, Sepang: January 30-February 1
2. Australia, Phillip Island: February 15-17
3. Qatar, Losail: March 10-12

Moto2/Moto3
1. Spain, Jerez: March 9-10
2. Qatar, Losail: March 17-19

The venues will thus remain the same as this season, when the second Sepang MotoGP test was replaced by a new outing at Phillip Island.

Prior to 2017, the official post-season Valencia test will be held on November 15-16.

Valencia will see Jorge Lorenzo make his Ducati debut, Maverick Vinales at Yamaha, Andrea Iannone at Suzuki, Aleix Espargaro at Aprilia, Bradley Smith and Pol Espargaro at KTM - plus the first official MotoGP laps for rookies Alex Rins, Johann Zarco, Sam Lowes and Jonas Folger.

The 2017 racing season is scheduled to begin at Losail on the evening of March 26.

I guess lorenzo made a mistake move to ducati probably his career will come down same as perceived by rossi while joining Ducati.

[panjul07]

The official 2017 MotoGP pre-season tests will be held on the following dates and locations:

MotoGP
1. Malaysia, Sepang: January 30-February 1
2. Australia, Phillip Island: February 15-17
3. Qatar, Losail: March 10-12

Moto2/Moto3
1. Spain, Jerez: March 9-10
2. Qatar, Losail: March 17-19

The venues will thus remain the same as this season, when the second Sepang MotoGP test was replaced by a new outing at Phillip Island.

Prior to 2017, the official post-season Valencia test will be held on November 15-16.

Valencia will see Jorge Lorenzo make his Ducati debut, Maverick Vinales at Yamaha, Andrea Iannone at Suzuki, Aleix Espargaro at Aprilia, Bradley Smith and Pol Espargaro at KTM - plus the first official MotoGP laps for rookies Alex Rins, Johann Zarco, Sam Lowes and Jonas Folger.

The 2017 racing season is scheduled to begin at Losail on the evening of March 26.

I guess lorenzo made a mistake move to ducati probably his career will come down same as perceived by rossi while joining Ducati.

Ducati has improved alot this year, and will still improve more next year. In fact Ducati has the most horse power than other team, but still have some weaknesses on other things. If they can find the best setting of their bike, I'm sure Lorenzo will still br one of favorite Rider to be champion next year.

[azguard]

Found some info about engine failure for Hamilton

Mercedes has revealed a 'big-end bearing failure' was to blame for Lewis Hamilton's dramatic exit from the Malaysian Grand Prix following an engine blow.
The defending champion was leading comfortably in Sepang when his ICE expired at the start of lap 61 having completed a relatively meagre 618km since it was first installed.
Following thorough investigations, Mercedes has revealed a 'big-end bearing failure' caused the engine to blow, preceded by a loss of oil pressure at Turn 15 (the final corner) only seconds earlier. Prior to this Mercedes says it had no warning the engine was about to let go.
As a result, Mercedes will introduce safeguards this weekend as it continues to understand what led to the failure, with 'revised running parameters' introduced for all Mercedes engine customers this weekend.
Though Mercedes does not go into detail about this, it says it is a 'reactive follow-up to further questions to include but not limited to a different, more conservative oil specification.
In addition, planned new engines for five customer drivers this weekend have been delayed to aid the learning process and will continue to use their power units from Malaysia.

[novemberwoah]

The official 2017 MotoGP pre-season tests will be held on the following dates and locations:

MotoGP
1. Malaysia, Sepang: January 30-February 1
2. Australia, Phillip Island: February 15-17
3. Qatar, Losail: March 10-12

Moto2/Moto3
1. Spain, Jerez: March 9-10
2. Qatar, Losail: March 17-19

The venues will thus remain the same as this season, when the second Sepang MotoGP test was replaced by a new outing at Phillip Island.

Prior to 2017, the official post-season Valencia test will be held on November 15-16.

Valencia will see Jorge Lorenzo make his Ducati debut, Maverick Vinales at Yamaha, Andrea Iannone at Suzuki, Aleix Espargaro at Aprilia, Bradley Smith and Pol Espargaro at KTM - plus the first official MotoGP laps for rookies Alex Rins, Johann Zarco, Sam Lowes and Jonas Folger.

The 2017 racing season is scheduled to begin at Losail on the evening of March 26.

I guess lorenzo made a mistake move to ducati probably his career will come down same as perceived by rossi while joining Ducati.

Ducati has improved alot this year, and will still improve more next year. In fact Ducati has the most horse power than other team, but still have some weaknesses on other things. If they can find the best setting of their bike, I'm sure Lorenzo will still br one of favorite Rider to be champion next year.

Yes Ducati has actually progressed in terms of machine and very able to compete with its competitors Yamaha and Honda. But need drivers who can fit in with Ducati. Ducati experienced a heyday in the years 2007 - 2010 when ridden by C. Stoner. Especially now Ducati engine has been increased, if Lorenzo can control would be very exciting. Racing next season there will be many surprises and there will be competition from different teams; Rossi of Yamaha, Marquez of Honda, and Lorenzo of Ducati.

[tokeweed]

This is a little late because I didn't realize that the Japanese Grand Prix was this weekend.  I thought it was gonna be next week. 

Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix Schedule

Fri 07 – Sun 09 Oct 2016

Practice 1
    Fri
    10:00 – 11:30
Practice 2
    Fri
    14:00 – 15:30
Practice 3
    Sat
    12:00 – 13:00
Qualifying
    Sat
    15:00 – 16:00
Race
    Sun
    14:00 – 16:00

[azguard]

Comparing just now result from free practices one and two and see improvement for McLaren Alonso at least he was in top 10 in both practices
Also i see that Ferrari and Red bull are still behind Mercedes and Rosberg was fastest in both practices

[bbc.reporter]

I believe Lewis Hamilton will be more motivated in this race because of the engine failure in Malaysia last week. How many races are there left? Hamilton will take as many points as he can and try to beat Nico Rosberg decisively.

[marioantonini]

I believe Lewis Hamilton will be more motivated in this race because of the engine failure in Malaysia last week. How many races are there left? Hamilton will take as many points as he can and try to beat Nico Rosberg decisively.

Only 5 race left, is very hard for Hamilton because generally when Hamilton win, Rosberg end second.

For tomorrow and for the race can rain and this can change all in the race, only with rain Ferrari can have one possibility

[azguard]

Full qualifying results for round 17 of the 2016 Formula 1 World Championship (F1), the Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka.

1. Nico Rosberg   GER Mercedes-Mercedes   1m 30.647s
2. Lewis Hamilton   GBR Mercedes-Mercedes   1m 30.660s
3. Kimi Raikkonen   FIN Ferrari-Ferrari   1m 30.949s
4. Sebastian Vettel   GER Ferrari-Ferrari   1m 31.028s *
5. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull-TAG   1m 31.178s
6. Daniel Ricciardo   AUS Red Bull-TAG   1m 31.240s
7. Sergio Perez   MEX Force India-Mercedes   1m 31.961s
8. Romain Grosjean   FRA Haas-Ferrari   1m 31.961s
9. Nico Hulkenberg   GER Force India-Mercedes   1m 32.142s
10. Esteban Gutierrez   MEX Haas-Ferrari   1m 33.547s

11. Valtteri Bottas   FIN Williams-Mercedes   1m 32.315s
12. Felipe Massa   BRZ Williams-Mercedes   1m 32.380s
13. Daniil Kvyat   RUS Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1m 32.623s
14. Carlos Sainz Jr   ESP Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1m 32.685s
15. Fernando Alonso   ESP McLaren-Honda   1m 32.689s
16. Jolyon Palmer   GBR Renault-Renault   1m 32.807s

17. Jenson Button   GBR McLaren-Honda   1m 32.851s
18. Kevin Magnussen   DEN Renault-Renault   1m 33.023s
19. Marcus Ericsson   SWE Sauber-Ferrari   1m 33.222s
20. Felipe Nasr   BRA Sauber-Ferrari   1m 33.332s
21. Esteban Ocon   FRA Manor-Mercedes   1m 33.353s
22. Pascal Wehrlein   GER Manor-Mercedes   1m 33.561s **

[cicciobtc]

Who win Gp of Suzuka-Japan?


Nico Rosberg@2
Lewis Hamilton@2.25
Max Verstappen@13
Daniel Ricciardo@14
Kimi Raikkonen@16
Sebastian Vettel@30
Nico Hulkenberg@200
Sergio Perez@200
Fernando Alonso@250

The quote of Hamilton at @2.25 is really good. He absolutely has to win, instead rosberg can get to the second place without risking

[TheBlues]

Who win Gp of Suzuka-Japan?


Nico Rosberg@2
Lewis Hamilton@2.25
Max Verstappen@13
Daniel Ricciardo@14
Kimi Raikkonen@16
Sebastian Vettel@30
Nico Hulkenberg@200
Sergio Perez@200
Fernando Alonso@250

The quote of Hamilton at @2.25 is really good. He absolutely has to win, instead rosberg can get to the second place without risking

if nico roseberg win
i think is wold championship is nico, hamilton not win can't retain to world championship , and trophy wold championship can gone

[ArdiPrabowo]

final result in japaneese granprix formula 1

I think after race in japan, nico roseberg unstopable can win world championship, except in crash and injurie

Race
     Pos    Driver       Team    Laps    Pits    
   1    Rosberg      GER    Mercedes    53    2    
   2    Verstappen      NED    Red Bull    53    2    
   3    Hamilton      GBR    Mercedes    53    2    
   4    Vettel   FL    GER    Ferrari    53    2    
   5    Räikkönen      FIN    Ferrari    53    2    
   6    Ricciardo      AUS    Red Bull    53    2    
   7    Perez      MEX    Force India    53    2    
   8    Hülkenberg      GER    Force India    53    2    
   9    Massa      BRA    Williams    53    1    
   10    Bottas      FIN    Williams    53    1    
   11    Grosjean      FRA    Haas    53    2    
   12    Palmer      GBR    Renault    52    1    
   13    Kvyat      RUS    Toro Rosso    52    2    
   14    Magnussen      DEN    Renault    52    1    
   15    Ericsson      SWE    Sauber    52    1    
   16    Alonso      ESP    McLaren    52    2    
   17    Sainz      ESP    Toro Rosso    52    2    
   18    Button      GBR    McLaren    52    2    
   19    Nasr      BRA    Sauber    52    1    
   20    Gutiérrez      MEX    Haas    52    2    
   21    Ocon      FRA    Manor    52    2    
   22    Wehrlein      GER    Manor    52    2

[cicciobtc]

Standing F1:

1)Nico Rosberg  Mercedes    313
2)Lewis Hamilton  Mercedes   280
3)Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing  212
4)Kimi Raikkonen   Ferrari  170
5)Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari  165
5)Max Verstappen  Red Bull Racing  165
7)Valtteri Bottas Williams   81
8)Sergio Perez  Force India 80
9)Nico Hulkenberg  Force India 54
10)Felipe Massa Williams  43
11)Fernando Alonso McLaren 42


33-point lead to 4 races from the end is a huge advantage for Rosberg.
Rosberg with 3 second places and 1 third place  wins world Championship (18+18+18+15=69 + 33 point lead =102, Hamilton with 4 first places can get up to 100 points 25x4)

[marioantonini]

Hamilton have exposed "white" flag later the start, the title is only in the hand of Rosberg, already if Hamilton win all the 4 last race, Rosberg can win.
This is the problem of Hamilton, when have a problem, , not search the solution, but cry.

[cicciobtc]

Constructors'  Standings F1:


1)Mercedes 583

2)Red Bull  385
3)Ferrari  335

4)Force India 134
5)Williams Martini Racing 124

6)McLaren-Honda 62
7)Toro Rosso  47
8)Haas F1 Team 28
9)Renault Sport F1 8
10)Manor 1

Mercedes has dominated and won the world championship.
Interesting the fight for second place between the Red bull and Ferrari, and for fourth place between Force India and Williams

[azguard]

Hamilton have exposed "white" flag later the start, the title is only in the hand of Rosberg, already if Hamilton win all the 4 last race, Rosberg can win.
This is the problem of Hamilton, when have a problem, , not search the solution, but cry.

I have to agree with you Hamiltonin last few races didn't start well and that is seem his problem he is under huge pressure and he perhaps first time in his career have problem dealing with it

[azguard]

Constructors'  Standings F1:


1)Mercedes 583

2)Red Bull  385
3)Ferrari  335

4)Force India 134
5)Williams Martini Racing 124

6)McLaren-Honda 62
7)Toro Rosso  47
8)Haas F1 Team 28
9)Renault Sport F1 8
10)Manor 1

Mercedes has dominated and won the world championship.
Interesting the fight for second place between the Red bull and Ferrari, and for fourth place between Force India and Williams

every place in constructors championship give some Percentage of money also battle for 6 is good McLaren and Toro Rosso have been battle from start of season
think that if Honda (more alonso) got point in next race then it over for this 6th place also think that RB racing is better this season then Ferrari so i give them 2dn at the end

[bbc.reporter]

Hamilton have exposed "white" flag later the start, the title is only in the hand of Rosberg, already if Hamilton win all the 4 last race, Rosberg can win.
This is the problem of Hamilton, when have a problem, , not search the solution, but cry.

The Malaysian Grand Prix was Lewis Hamilton's last chance to stay close with Nico Rosberg in the driver's championship. He was already winning that race if not for the failure of the engine. If you listened to the radio when Hamilton's engine blew he said "Oh no". He already knew that was then end of his campaign to become champion because Rosberg will have further rise in points away from him.

There might be a conspiracy against Hamilton.

[azguard]

Hamilton have exposed "white" flag later the start, the title is only in the hand of Rosberg, already if Hamilton win all the 4 last race, Rosberg can win.
This is the problem of Hamilton, when have a problem, , not search the solution, but cry.

The Malaysian Grand Prix was Lewis Hamilton's last chance to stay close with Nico Rosberg in the driver's championship. He was already winning that race if not for the failure of the engine. If you listened to the radio when Hamilton's engine blew he said "Oh no". He already knew that was then end of his campaign to become champion because Rosberg will have further rise in points away from him.

There might be a conspiracy against Hamilton.

well this may be true in some but i will say that if Hamilton tries to pressure Rosberg he might have some chances for that i mean that he need to force Rosberg to make error in race like hes done in past
only in this scenario Hamilton have some chances