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[marioantonini]

Race was great again Alonso drive like it was in old days great to see him passing and finish at 5th place
Lewis was good from start to finish only max was bad luck with car and Ferrari mechanic have done it again no words for them

Yup surprisingly.  They were not really good at qualifying but on race day they did well.  Even Jenson Button got in the top 10.  I think the new Honda engines are now being used by them.  It would be sad to see Button go and McLaren become contenders again next season.  The McClaren engines might improve drastically next year.

Ross Brawn to Ferrari please.  I mean really..  They need someone to revamp and revitalize the team.

I don't think only Ross Brawn  can resolve the problems of Ferrari, are really more and Ross later have sell the Brown gp to mercedes have more money and i don't think return to work in f1.
Ferrari request a designer like Aldo Costa, like Newey, not a responsable like Arrivabene o Mattiacci

[tokeweed]

Here's the Mexican Grand Prix time table.  If everything goes as expected we'll see Rosberg become and win the driver's championship.  No more excitement there unless we see the unexpected happen.  Conspiracy theories anyone?  

I'm actually more excited to watch McClaren now.  I hope Alonso and Button double finishes in the top 10 again.

Mexican Grand Prix Time Table

Thursday 27 October
11:00 – 12:00: FIA press conference

Friday 28 October
10:00 – 11:30: First free practice
14:00 – 15:30: Second free practice
16:00 – 17:00: FIA press conference

Saturday 29 October
10:00 – 11:00: Third free practice
13:00 – 14:00: Qualifying
14:00: FIA post-qualifying press conference

Sunday 30 October
13:00 – 15:00: Mexican Grand Prix
15:00: FIA post-race press conference

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Race was great again Alonso drive like it was in old days great to see him passing and finish at 5th place
Lewis was good from start to finish only max was bad luck with car and Ferrari mechanic have done it again no words for them

Yup surprisingly.  They were not really good at qualifying but on race day they did well.  Even Jenson Button got in the top 10.  I think the new Honda engines are now being used by them.  It would be sad to see Button go and McLaren become contenders again next season.  The McClaren engines might improve drastically next year.

Ross Brawn to Ferrari please.  I mean really..  They need someone to revamp and revitalize the team.

I don't think only Ross Brawn  can resolve the problems of Ferrari, are really more and Ross later have sell the Brown gp to mercedes have more money and i don't think return to work in f1.
Ferrari request a designer like Aldo Costa, like Newey, not a responsable like Arrivabene o Mattiacci

this will take time but i think that Ferrari dont have time for this they will have to develop really good car for next season if they repeat another season like this it will be disaster for them i think from how look thinks
i just hope that next season will be more competitive that we have more then one team in position to win

[Dux2K]

We have another racing weekend motogp and formula1 DTM  finished last weekend  so only in formula is something to taje still champion is not certain  so i hope we will enjoy this weekend  races

[marioantonini]

in the first day of pratice to Mexican Gp the surprise is Vettel first with Ferrari (but wuith more supersoft tyres).
for the pole position i think is only for Mercedes, but for tomorrow i hope in the battle Rosberg against red bull

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MotoGP full Qualifying results

1.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   2m 11.485s [Lap 6/6]   295km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Valentino Rossi   ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   2m 11.731s +0.246s   [7/7]   297km/h
3.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   2m 11.787s +0.302s   [5/7]   303km/h
4.   Marc Marquez   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   2m 11.874s +0.389s   [3/7]   303km/h
5.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)   2m 12.558s +1.073s   [7/7]   304km/h
6.   Andrea Iannone   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   2m 12.598s +1.113s   [7/7]   282km/h
7.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   2m 12.869s +1.384s   [4/5]   303km/h
8.   Maverick Viñales   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   2m 12.981s +1.496s   [4/7]   296km/h
9.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   2m 13.325s +1.840s   [7/7]   294km/h
10.   Loris Baz   FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m 13.452s +1.967s   [5/6]   295km/h
11.   Pol Espargaro   ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   2m 13.707s +2.222s   [4/7]   285km/h
12.   Hector Barbera   ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)   2m 13.973s +2.488s   [2/5]   291km/h
13.   Bradley Smith   GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   2m 12.898s 303km/h   
14.   Jack Miller   AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   2m 12.907s 302km/h   
15.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   2m 13.776s 297km/h   
16.   Stefan Bradl   GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   2m 13.850s 292km/h   
17.   Hiroshi Aoyama   JPN Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   2m 14.179s 291km/h   
18.   Scott Redding   GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   2m 14.433s 295km/h   
19.   Eugene Laverty   IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m 14.769s 282km/h   
20.   Yonny Hernandez   COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m 14.786s 292km/h   
21.   Tito Rabat   ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*   2m 15.894s 290km/h

[marioantonini]

In the qualify another disaster of Ferrari and i don't think why, in the first 2 qualify have a good prestation, in the last only 6th and 7th (and another time Raikkonen more fast of Vettel).
Tomorrow i think the race can is nice, because the red bull are very fast and start with supersoft tyre

[cicciobtc]

Dovizioso won the Grand Prix at Sepang in Malaysia! This season there have been 9 different winners (Marquez, Rossi, Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Iannone, Miller, Vinales, Crutchlow, Dovizioso). Marquez won the championship just because it made less mistakes of his opponents and has  more continuity in the results

[novemberwoah]

Dovizioso won the Grand Prix at Sepang in Malaysia! This season there have been 9 different winners (Marquez, Rossi, Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Iannone, Miller, Vinales, Crutchlow, Dovizioso). Marquez won the championship just because it made less mistakes of his opponents and has  more continuity in the results

Yes Dovizioso won the Grand Prix at Sepang, and Rossi and Lorenzo followed. Maybe if Rossi had not made a mistake he could lead. In addition, many drivers who happen to be good luck for Lorenzo podium. Yes in the last two races Marquez crashed in a row, but he still will be a World Champion for pointnya could not be pursued by Rossi.

[cicciobtc]

Who win the F1 Mexico Gp:


Lewis Hamilton @1.45
Nico Rosberg @3.75
Max Verstappen @11
Daniel Ricciardo @12
Sebastian Vettel @35
Kimi Raikkonen @40


I think that once again wins Hamilton, while Rosberg will be content with second place.

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MotoGP race results

1.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 42m 27.333s
2.   Valentino Rossi   ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 42m 30.448s
3.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 42m 39.257s
4.   Hector Barbera   ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 42m 47.249s
5.   Loris Baz   FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 42m 48.686s
6.   Maverick Viñales   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 42m 50.265s
7.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 42m 53.162s
8.   Jack Miller   AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 43m 0.079s
9.   Pol Espargaro   ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 43m 1.037s
10.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 43m 1.613s
11.   Marc Marquez   ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 43m 3.813s
12.   Eugene Laverty   IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 43m 3.971s
13.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 43m 4.230s
14.   Bradley Smith   GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 43m 12.942s
15.   Scott Redding   GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 43m 17.112s
16.   Hiroshi Aoyama   JPN Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 43m 19.998s
17.   Stefan Bradl   GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 43m 20.117s
18.   Tito Rabat   ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 43m 22.224s
Andrea Iannone   ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) DNF
Cal Crutchlow   GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) DNF
Yonny Hernandez   COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) DNF

[marioantonini]

Who win the F1 Mexico Gp:


Lewis Hamilton @1.45
Nico Rosberg @3.75
Max Verstappen @11
Daniel Ricciardo @12
Sebastian Vettel @35
Kimi Raikkonen @40


I think that once again wins Hamilton, while Rosberg will be content with second place.

I think Mercedes (Hamilton) but i like bet to the first lap, for me Verstappen or Ricciardo overtake Hamilton in the start (with supersoft tyre). Now i search the best odds for Verstappen first later first lap

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Formula1 Mexican Grand Prix race results

1. Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes-Mercedes   71 laps
2. Nico Rosberg   GER   Mercedes-Mercedes   +8.3s
3. Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Red Bull-TAG Heuer   +20.8s
4. Max Verstappen   NED Red Bull-TAG Heuer   +21.3s*
5. Sebastian Vettel   GER   Ferrari-Ferrari   +27.3s**
6. Kimi Raikkonen   FIN   Ferrari-Ferrari   +49.3s
7. Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Force India-Mercedes   +58.8s
8. Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Williams-Mercedes   +65.6s
9. Felipe Massa   BRZ   Williams-Mercedes   +76.2
10. Sergio Perez   MEX   Force India-Mercedes   +76.7s
11. Marcus Ericsson   SWE   Sauber-Ferrari   +1 lap
12. Jenson Button   GBR   McLaren-Honda   +1 lap
13. Fernando Alonso   ESP   McLaren-Honda   +1 lap
14. Jolyon Palmer   GBR   Renault-Renault   +1 lap
15. Felipe Nasr   BRZ   Sauber-Ferrari   +1 lap
16. Carlos Sainz Jr   ESP   Toro Rosso-Ferrari   +1 lap
17. Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Renault-Renault   +1 lap
18. Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Toro Rosso-Ferrari   +1 lap
19. Esteban Gutierrez MEX Haas-Ferrari   +1 lap
20. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari   +1 lap
21. Esteban Ocon   FRA   MRT-Mercedes   +2 laps

Not Classified
Rtd. Pascal Wehrlein GER    MRT-Mercedes   

Fastest lap
Daniel Riccardo   AUS   Red Bull-TAG Heuer   1m 21.134s

*Max Verstappen given 5-sec penalty
**Sebastian Vettel given 10-sec penalty

[marioantonini]

This formula 1 is really ridicolus, the judges are incompetent and slow.
First, Verstapopen go to the podium, later 5 minutes, Vettel is on the podium and later 2 hour Vettel have 10 second of penality and Ricciardo is on the podium.
Like a football game, race get end with one result, and don't change more time, already for the betting

[zend7]

The best out of this race was this phrases between Alonso and his engineer. In case you haven't take notice of it I am bringing it here for you all to enjoy. Because Honda has been truly ridiculous in this race.

Engineer: Push hard now, it's time to push
Alonso: I am pushing hard, I think this car should not be in the race

I agree that Mclaren Honda deserve such bashing, but that's going too far from Alonso as he makes McLaren and Honda look ridiculous (they are) before of the fans, sponsors and by doing so he demotivates a lot the teams in Sakura and Woking which I think they are working hard.

[Dux2K]

This formula 1 is really ridicolus, the judges are incompetent and slow.
First, Verstapopen go to the podium, later 5 minutes, Vettel is on the podium and later 2 hour Vettel have 10 second of penality and Ricciardo is on the podium.
Like a football game, race get end with one result, and don't change more time, already for the betting

Agreed  they got punished for short track and Hamilton and Rosberg also take short track and they didn't got punished
I don't know what they do anymore

[LTU_btc]

This formula 1 is really ridicolus, the judges are incompetent and slow.
First, Verstapopen go to the podium, later 5 minutes, Vettel is on the podium and later 2 hour Vettel have 10 second of penality and Ricciardo is on the podium.
Like a football game, race get end with one result, and don't change more time, already for the betting

Agreed  they got punished for short track and Hamilton and Rosberg also take short track and they didn't got punished
I don't know what they do anymore

Yes, Hamilton and Rosberg this way gained advantage in 1st lap. So, why they didn't got penalty? And why Vettel got 10 sec penalty and Verstappen only 5 sec? Looks like Verstappen have protection from FIA. Remember, how many times he didn't get penalty after breaking rules.
I'm missing old times formula when drivers was able to fight for position. Now it become similar to simulator.

[cicciobtc]

Who win the F1 Mexico Gp:


Lewis Hamilton @1.45
Nico Rosberg @3.75
Max Verstappen @11
Daniel Ricciardo @12
Sebastian Vettel @35
Kimi Raikkonen @40


I think that once again wins Hamilton, while Rosberg will be content with second place.

as expected, even in this Gp  first Hamilton and second Rosberg. The f1 is very repetitive

[tokeweed]

The best out of this race was this phrases between Alonso and his engineer. In case you haven't take notice of it I am bringing it here for you all to enjoy. Because Honda has been truly ridiculous in this race.

Engineer: Push hard now, it's time to push
Alonso: I am pushing hard, I think this car should not be in the race

I agree that Mclaren Honda deserve such bashing, but that's going too far from Alonso as he makes McLaren and Honda look ridiculous (they are) before of the fans, sponsors and by doing so he demotivates a lot the teams in Sakura and Woking which I think they are working hard.

I just watched the replay.  Yeah after Austin I was expecting them to do well at Mexico, but no.  Button made the right decision to take a year off from McClaren.  They have become more incompetent as the years went by.

I think Vettel also needs a year off from F1 after his Ferrari contract expires.  His behavior is showing that he needs a break now more than ever.  It's really unbecoming of a 4 time world champion.

[ArdiPrabowo]

Formula1 Mexican Grand Prix race results

1. Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes-Mercedes   71 laps
2. Nico Rosberg   GER   Mercedes-Mercedes   +8.3s
3. Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Red Bull-TAG Heuer   +20.8s
4. Max Verstappen   NED Red Bull-TAG Heuer   +21.3s*
5. Sebastian Vettel   GER   Ferrari-Ferrari   +27.3s**
6. Kimi Raikkonen   FIN   Ferrari-Ferrari   +49.3s
7. Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Force India-Mercedes   +58.8s
8. Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Williams-Mercedes   +65.6s
9. Felipe Massa   BRZ   Williams-Mercedes   +76.2
10. Sergio Perez   MEX   Force India-Mercedes   +76.7s
11. Marcus Ericsson   SWE   Sauber-Ferrari   +1 lap
12. Jenson Button   GBR   McLaren-Honda   +1 lap
13. Fernando Alonso   ESP   McLaren-Honda   +1 lap
14. Jolyon Palmer   GBR   Renault-Renault   +1 lap
15. Felipe Nasr   BRZ   Sauber-Ferrari   +1 lap
16. Carlos Sainz Jr   ESP   Toro Rosso-Ferrari   +1 lap
17. Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Renault-Renault   +1 lap
18. Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Toro Rosso-Ferrari   +1 lap
19. Esteban Gutierrez MEX Haas-Ferrari   +1 lap
20. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari   +1 lap
21. Esteban Ocon   FRA   MRT-Mercedes   +2 laps

Not Classified
Rtd. Pascal Wehrlein GER    MRT-Mercedes   

Fastest lap
Daniel Riccardo   AUS   Red Bull-TAG Heuer   1m 21.134s

*Max Verstappen given 5-sec penalty
**Sebastian Vettel given 10-sec penalty

Nico rosberg still strong candidate world championship
nico rosberg only finish 2 and hamilton all race win, rosberg is win world championship