Bitcoin Forum
July 19, 2019, 12:31:32 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 0.18.0 [Torrent] (New!)
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 ... 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 [143] 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 ... 346 »
  Print  
Author Topic: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer  (Read 449651 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.
Evil-Knievel
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1160



View Profile
November 28, 2016, 09:58:14 AM
 #2841

Great to see Elastic coming closer to launch.

Just wondering: How does Elastic go about the halting problem?

It is a turing-complete network, right?
what's halting problem ?

We have no conditional loops, or jumps so there is no "halting problem"!
Also, in ElasticPL we cannot store unlimited amounts of memory, its limited to 64000 ints, so by definition Elastic cannot be Turing complete!
1563496292
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1563496292

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1563496292
Reply with quote  #2

1563496292
Report to moderator
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1563496292
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1563496292

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1563496292
Reply with quote  #2

1563496292
Report to moderator
mladen00
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1764
Merit: 1003


K-ing®


View Profile
November 28, 2016, 10:12:39 AM
 #2842

maybe we can set up fundation  - XEL Fundation, with our's donation.
If everybody donate 10-20% of shares we can set up fundation (evil-knievel + .... + 1-2 forum members (who helps the dev's the most)

p.s. - i dont have much (about 106000 XEL) but i will donate 20%

IOTA
Evil-Knievel
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1160



View Profile
November 28, 2016, 10:42:36 AM
 #2843

Ah, and Even if Vitalik claims differently, the "Ethereum-Computer" is not Turing complete either. It's just that every body keeps repeating it, but even the non-scientific eye would immediately see a Turing machine that cannot be simulated by Ethereum, so by definition it cannot be Turing complete (see Turing equivalence)
dragonchopper9
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 365
Merit: 250



View Profile
November 28, 2016, 02:49:10 PM
 #2844

How can someone do donate, if network has not yet been launched? Or is there some mechanism to send and trade?

           ▄▄█████████▄▄
       ▄████▀▀       ▀▀████▄
     ▄██▀▀               ▀▀██▄
    ██▀                    ████
   ██                     ███▀██
  ██                    ▄██▀   ██
 ██                    ▄██      ██
██▀                  ▄██▀      ▄███
██                  ▄██      ▄██▀██
██                 ██▀    ▄███▀  ██
██               ▄██▀   ▄██▀     ██
██▄             ▄██  ▄███▀      ▄██
 ██           ▄██▀ ▄██▀         ██
  ██         ▄██▄███▀          ██
   ██       █████▀            ██
    ██▄   ▄████▀            ▄██
     ▀██▄███▀            ▄▄██▀
       ▀████▄▄       ▄▄████▀
           ▀▀█████████▀▀
L I V E T R E E   A D E P T TM
Own the future of entertainment
The World's 1st Community-Powered,
Film, TV and Content Network  ★
Thefrolly
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 658
Merit: 250


Buy, sell and store real cryptocurrencies


View Profile
November 28, 2016, 07:24:40 PM
 #2845

How can someone do donate, if network has not yet been launched? Or is there some mechanism to send and trade?

there was a presale or crowdfund

.


.
.



▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
██████████████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████
███████████████████████▀██████████████
█████████▄▄      ▀▀██▀╜  ▀▀███████████
████████████▄       ██   ▀^╓▀█████████
██████████████      ║█    ,▀██████████
█████████████▄▄      █▌   ████████████
████████████████▄     ▀█▄  ███████████
████████████████▀,,,    ╙▀▀█▀ ████████
█████████████████▀▀▀█▄▄       ████████
███████████████▀     ▀███████▀████████
██████████████▌       ▐█* ▀▓▀ ████████
████████████*██▄     ▄██▄▄▄▄▄▄████████
██████████▀`  ▀██▄   ▀████████████████
████████▀`  ▄█████▌   ╙███████████████
████████▄,   ▀████ ,,,  "▀▀███████████
██████████,,,,, ╙█▄███▄▄,,,,╙▀████████
██████████████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████
██████████████████████████████████████
L B X.


■                         ■                        ■                        ■                        ■                        ■                         ■
The London Block Exchange
■                         ■                        ■                        ■                        ■                        ■                         ■
.


.
.


.
WDownload OnW
[.
          ▄▄█▀
         ███▀
   ▄▄▄▄  ▀  ▄▄▄▄
 ▄███████▄██████▌
▐██████████████▌
███████████████
▐██████████████▌
 ███████████████▌
  ██████████████▌
   ▀████▀▀▀████▀
/      ▌ ▄▄▄▄ ▐
     ▄█▀████▀█▄
    ▐██████████▌
 ▄▄ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ▄▄
▐██▌████████████▐██▌
▐██▌████████████▐██▌
▐██▌████████████▐██▌
 ▀▀ ████████████ ▀▀
    ▀██████████▀
      ▐██  ██▌
      ▐██  ██▌
]
.


Evil-Knievel
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1160



View Profile
November 28, 2016, 08:40:16 PM
 #2846

Ah, and Even if Vitalik claims differently, the "Ethereum-Computer" is not Turing complete either. It's just that every body keeps repeating it, but even the non-scientific eye would immediately see a Turing machine that cannot be simulated by Ethereum, so by definition it cannot be Turing complete (see Turing equivalence)

 Shocked

Adding two number in Ethereum costs 10 GAS,
Now, we have a default gas price of 0.02µETH = 0.00000002 Ether.
So every addition of two numbers costs 0.0000002 Ether in gas.

Now let T be the turing machine, that represents what we see here in C logic:

Code:
int a = 1;
for(int i=0;i<75000000000001;++i){
a = a + i;
}

Failarmy! This is where Ethereum proves its Turing-Incompleteness:
This program would require exactly 15000000.0000002 ETH in gas fees, but there will only be 15000000 ETH ever in existance. There is no way to execute this turing complete program in Ethereum, even if you had ALL COINS IN EXISTENCE.

How can something be Turing Complete if you cannot execute the simple turing complete example from above? Remember, Turing Completeness means, you can execute EVERY SINGLE program that can be executed on a turing machine.
unvoid
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 535
Merit: 500



View Profile
November 28, 2016, 08:47:52 PM
 #2847

If you want to install Elastic go to http://www.elastic-project.com/installing_and_running_elastic

BTC: 1CMgHWx4wkAaAy2FfeCyPdedUExmhGhfi5
XEL: XEL-HCM8-KB6E-YFLK-8BWMF
Evil-Knievel
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1160



View Profile
November 28, 2016, 09:23:43 PM
 #2848


The current git version will fail at the moment. But some changes were necessary to bump the miner speed by another 5x  Wink
unvoid
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 535
Merit: 500



View Profile
November 28, 2016, 09:37:36 PM
 #2849


The current git version will fail at the moment. But some changes were necessary to bump the miner speed by another 5x  Wink

This! is the development soul that I like. Do your work, don't bother pointless posts. Just be sure to set some deadline for mainnet. Could be 6 months from now but we need some deadline for people. I hope you understand that @EK.

BTC: 1CMgHWx4wkAaAy2FfeCyPdedUExmhGhfi5
XEL: XEL-HCM8-KB6E-YFLK-8BWMF
ttookk
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 966
Merit: 513


View Profile
November 28, 2016, 09:38:34 PM
 #2850

Ah, and Even if Vitalik claims differently, the "Ethereum-Computer" is not Turing complete either. It's just that every body keeps repeating it, but even the non-scientific eye would immediately see a Turing machine that cannot be simulated by Ethereum, so by definition it cannot be Turing complete (see Turing equivalence)

 Shocked

Adding two number in Ethereum costs 10 GAS,
Now, we have a default gas price of 0.02µETH = 0.00000002 Ether.
So every addition of two numbers costs 0.0000002 Ether in gas.

Now let T be the turing machine, that represents what we see here in C logic:

Code:
int a = 1;
for(int i=0;i<75000000000001;++i){
a = a + i;
}

Failarmy! This is where Ethereum proves its Turing-Incompleteness:
This program would require exactly 15000000.0000002 ETH in gas fees, but there will only be 15000000 ETH ever in existance. There is no way to execute this turing complete program in Ethereum, even if you had ALL COINS IN EXISTENCE.

How can something be Turing Complete if you cannot execute the simple turing complete example from above? Remember, Turing Completeness means, you can execute EVERY SINGLE program that can be executed on a turing machine.

Not to nitpick here, but couldn't you rebuy the same ETH over and over? It  won't get burned, someone will get it and that person will probably throw it on the market again.

I still get your point though.
beyinsi
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 742
Merit: 501


View Profile
November 28, 2016, 09:53:22 PM
 #2851


@Evil-Knievel,

Please register here.. https://elasticfans.herokuapp.com/

Everyone waiting you.
ttookk
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 966
Merit: 513


View Profile
November 28, 2016, 10:05:29 PM
 #2852


@Evil-Knievel,

Please register here.. https://elasticfans.herokuapp.com/

Everyone waiting you.

How many people are registered at the moment?
beyinsi
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 742
Merit: 501


View Profile
November 28, 2016, 10:11:55 PM
 #2853


@Evil-Knievel,

Please register here.. https://elasticfans.herokuapp.com/

Everyone waiting you.

How many people are registered at the moment?

21 people yet....

please come here and please register as bitcointalk username

Support Slack Channel!

if u have some problems about auto invation, u can send me your email address with pm, i can invite u
Capefear
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 98
Merit: 10


View Profile
November 28, 2016, 11:00:32 PM
 #2854

date launch?
beyinsi
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 742
Merit: 501


View Profile
November 28, 2016, 11:47:07 PM
 #2855

date launch?
we expect to mature Elastic-Core.. its on testnet now, testing..testing..testing...
Capefear
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 98
Merit: 10


View Profile
November 29, 2016, 08:05:17 AM
 #2856

date launch?
we expect to mature Elastic-Core.. its on testnet now, testing..testing..testing...
hope it will be faster than lisk Cheesy
Evil-Knievel
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1160



View Profile
November 29, 2016, 09:58:31 AM
 #2857

hope it will be faster than lisk Cheesy

I have noticed a strong correlation between website beautifulness and the speed of progress, so I am very confident here ;-)
provenceday
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000



View Profile
November 29, 2016, 12:39:37 PM
 #2858

hope it will be faster than lisk Cheesy

I have noticed a strong correlation between website beautifulness and the speed of progress, so I am very confident here ;-)

that's a nice point! Smiley
Evil-Knievel
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1160



View Profile
November 29, 2016, 07:21:47 PM
 #2859

Current code base (0.8.0) has a defect density of 0.00  Grin
Also, it compiles with 0 Errors, and 0 Warnings.

Evil-Knievel
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 1160



View Profile
November 29, 2016, 08:19:54 PM
 #2860

Testnet 0.8.0 is live.

Check out this (http://elastic-project.com/installing_and_running_elastic#updating_source_code_to_the_latest_version) to learn how to upgrade. New here is, that the elastic-pl-0.2.0 package has a new version. If not using Docker, this has to be updated via mvn! All infos are in the instruction.
Pages: « 1 ... 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 [143] 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 ... 346 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!