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Author Topic: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer  (Read 450501 times)
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November 28, 2016, 10:12:39 AM
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maybe we can set up fundation  - XEL Fundation, with our's donation.
If everybody donate 10-20% of shares we can set up fundation (evil-knievel + .... + 1-2 forum members (who helps the dev's the most)

p.s. - i dont have much (about 106000 XEL) but i will donate 20%

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November 28, 2016, 10:42:36 AM
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Ah, and Even if Vitalik claims differently, the "Ethereum-Computer" is not Turing complete either. It's just that every body keeps repeating it, but even the non-scientific eye would immediately see a Turing machine that cannot be simulated by Ethereum, so by definition it cannot be Turing complete (see Turing equivalence)
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November 28, 2016, 02:49:10 PM
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How can someone do donate, if network has not yet been launched? Or is there some mechanism to send and trade?

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November 28, 2016, 07:24:40 PM
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How can someone do donate, if network has not yet been launched? Or is there some mechanism to send and trade?

there was a presale or crowdfund

 
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November 28, 2016, 08:40:16 PM
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Ah, and Even if Vitalik claims differently, the "Ethereum-Computer" is not Turing complete either. It's just that every body keeps repeating it, but even the non-scientific eye would immediately see a Turing machine that cannot be simulated by Ethereum, so by definition it cannot be Turing complete (see Turing equivalence)

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Adding two number in Ethereum costs 10 GAS,
Now, we have a default gas price of 0.02µETH = 0.00000002 Ether.
So every addition of two numbers costs 0.0000002 Ether in gas.

Now let T be the turing machine, that represents what we see here in C logic:

Code:
int a = 1;
for(int i=0;i<75000000000001;++i){
a = a + i;
}

Failarmy! This is where Ethereum proves its Turing-Incompleteness:
This program would require exactly 15000000.0000002 ETH in gas fees, but there will only be 15000000 ETH ever in existance. There is no way to execute this turing complete program in Ethereum, even if you had ALL COINS IN EXISTENCE.

How can something be Turing Complete if you cannot execute the simple turing complete example from above? Remember, Turing Completeness means, you can execute EVERY SINGLE program that can be executed on a turing machine.
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November 28, 2016, 08:47:52 PM
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If you want to install Elastic go to http://www.elastic-project.com/installing_and_running_elastic

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November 28, 2016, 09:23:43 PM
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The current git version will fail at the moment. But some changes were necessary to bump the miner speed by another 5x  Wink
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November 28, 2016, 09:37:36 PM
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The current git version will fail at the moment. But some changes were necessary to bump the miner speed by another 5x  Wink

This! is the development soul that I like. Do your work, don't bother pointless posts. Just be sure to set some deadline for mainnet. Could be 6 months from now but we need some deadline for people. I hope you understand that @EK.

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November 28, 2016, 09:38:34 PM
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Ah, and Even if Vitalik claims differently, the "Ethereum-Computer" is not Turing complete either. It's just that every body keeps repeating it, but even the non-scientific eye would immediately see a Turing machine that cannot be simulated by Ethereum, so by definition it cannot be Turing complete (see Turing equivalence)

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Adding two number in Ethereum costs 10 GAS,
Now, we have a default gas price of 0.02µETH = 0.00000002 Ether.
So every addition of two numbers costs 0.0000002 Ether in gas.

Now let T be the turing machine, that represents what we see here in C logic:

Code:
int a = 1;
for(int i=0;i<75000000000001;++i){
a = a + i;
}

Failarmy! This is where Ethereum proves its Turing-Incompleteness:
This program would require exactly 15000000.0000002 ETH in gas fees, but there will only be 15000000 ETH ever in existance. There is no way to execute this turing complete program in Ethereum, even if you had ALL COINS IN EXISTENCE.

How can something be Turing Complete if you cannot execute the simple turing complete example from above? Remember, Turing Completeness means, you can execute EVERY SINGLE program that can be executed on a turing machine.

Not to nitpick here, but couldn't you rebuy the same ETH over and over? It  won't get burned, someone will get it and that person will probably throw it on the market again.

I still get your point though.
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November 28, 2016, 09:53:22 PM
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@Evil-Knievel,

Please register here.. https://elasticfans.herokuapp.com/

Everyone waiting you.
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November 28, 2016, 10:05:29 PM
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@Evil-Knievel,

Please register here.. https://elasticfans.herokuapp.com/

Everyone waiting you.

How many people are registered at the moment?
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November 28, 2016, 10:11:55 PM
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@Evil-Knievel,

Please register here.. https://elasticfans.herokuapp.com/

Everyone waiting you.

How many people are registered at the moment?

21 people yet....

please come here and please register as bitcointalk username

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if u have some problems about auto invation, u can send me your email address with pm, i can invite u
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November 28, 2016, 11:00:32 PM
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date launch?
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November 28, 2016, 11:47:07 PM
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date launch?
we expect to mature Elastic-Core.. its on testnet now, testing..testing..testing...
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November 29, 2016, 08:05:17 AM
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date launch?
we expect to mature Elastic-Core.. its on testnet now, testing..testing..testing...
hope it will be faster than lisk Cheesy
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November 29, 2016, 09:58:31 AM
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hope it will be faster than lisk Cheesy

I have noticed a strong correlation between website beautifulness and the speed of progress, so I am very confident here ;-)
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November 29, 2016, 12:39:37 PM
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hope it will be faster than lisk Cheesy

I have noticed a strong correlation between website beautifulness and the speed of progress, so I am very confident here ;-)

that's a nice point! Smiley
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November 29, 2016, 07:21:47 PM
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Current code base (0.8.0) has a defect density of 0.00  Grin
Also, it compiles with 0 Errors, and 0 Warnings.

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November 29, 2016, 08:19:54 PM
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Testnet 0.8.0 is live.

Check out this (http://elastic-project.com/installing_and_running_elastic#updating_source_code_to_the_latest_version) to learn how to upgrade. New here is, that the elastic-pl-0.2.0 package has a new version. If not using Docker, this has to be updated via mvn! All infos are in the instruction.
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November 29, 2016, 08:24:30 PM
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Testnet 0.8.0 is live.

Check out this (http://elastic-project.com/installing_and_running_elastic#updating_source_code_to_the_latest_version) to learn how to upgrade. New here is, that the elastic-pl-0.2.0 package has a new version. If not using Docker, this has to be updated via mvn! All infos are in the instruction.

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