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September 22, 2013, 08:06:14 PM |
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Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.
AM is selling blades at ~4 BTC/10GH. This security represents 100TH, i.e., 10,000 blades worth of hashpower. That would cost 40,000 BTC to buy. Market cap: 120526.04077839 BTC This is provably overvalued. You are getting a 3x better deal by buying ASICMiner blades, and you are likely to lose money on those too. 200TH, right... but the rest you said is the problem one has when you only create a mining ipo instead an ipo that owns its on asic and will grow the mine over time... *sigh* learning money i guess... Does this also help you understand why you should NEVER use useless metrics like "APR" in evaluating a company's value (unless it's a bank)? This applies to ASICMiner. APR varies wildly with the rapidly shifting margins. Current APR suggests noting about future APR.
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September 22, 2013, 08:10:13 PM |
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Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.
AM is selling blades at ~4 BTC/10GH. This security represents 100TH, i.e., 10,000 blades worth of hashpower. That would cost 40,000 BTC to buy. Market cap: 120526.04077839 BTC This is provably overvalued. You are getting a 3x better deal by buying ASICMiner blades, and you are likely to lose money on those too. 200TH, right... but the rest you said is the problem one has when you only create a mining ipo instead an ipo that owns its on asic and will grow the mine over time... *sigh* learning money i guess... Does this also help you understand why you should NEVER use useless metrics like "APR" in evaluating a company's value (unless it's a bank)? This applies to ASICMiner. APR varies wildly with the rapidly shifting margins. Current APR suggests noting about future APR. Asicminer is different from this security here. They have their own asic and can produce hashpower at cost. Its the same here maybe, when the contracts are so, but this company is like buying hardware and run it to death. Asicminer instead is something that grows constantly. Calculating the divs for a year makes way more sense there than here.
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September 22, 2013, 08:10:23 PM |
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Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.
AM is selling blades at ~4 BTC/10GH. This security represents 100TH, i.e., 10,000 blades worth of hashpower. That would cost 40,000 BTC to buy. Market cap: 120526.04077839 BTC This is provably overvalued. You are getting a 3x better deal by buying ASICMiner blades, and you are likely to lose money on those too. This security is going to be 200TH not 100 Still overvalued by the same math. The blades are just 1.5x cheaper. And we haven't discussed whether those are a good deal, just that they're a better one. 20000 blades would cost 80000btc to buy. Current lowest asking price of 200Thash mine is 0.15btc per share when the total share amount is 518271 which would make 200Thash cost 77741btc. So the cost is about equal. In 200Thash mine you don't have to manage anything by yourself and the management costs are much lower than running blades. Why do you even see the trouble of making a post when you have almost all the facts wrong and your calculations are off by 300%?
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September 23, 2013, 02:39:49 AM |
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For most share holders, they lose money in the investment of the 100TH/200TH. Will it go far, if it swallows the money of the most players?
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September 23, 2013, 08:38:00 AM |
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Last dividends 25.02. First block in solo?
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Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors. Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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September 23, 2013, 08:40:22 AM |
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Last dividends 25.02. First block in solo?
Woot! Amazing company tm!
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September 23, 2013, 08:43:05 AM |
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Last dividends 25.02. First block in solo?
Woot! Amazing company tm! On Btcguils hashrate is droping so it's possible that hardware is switching to solo....
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Under development Modular UPGRADEABLE Miner (MUM). Looking for investors. Changing one PCB with screwdriver and you have brand new miner in hand... Plug&Play, scalable from one module to thousands.
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September 23, 2013, 08:53:01 AM |
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Last dividends 25.02. First block in solo?
Woot! Amazing company tm! On Btcguils hashrate is droping so it's possible that hardware is switching to solo.... Yep - sorry for the radio silence. First solo block mined and actively moving over to solo - internal hashrate 70-75TH. We still have some failover processes that drop hashrate off to btcguild, but we will be systematically finishing this transition over the next couple days. More optimizing, more hardware, more hashes all coming soon...
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September 23, 2013, 09:05:06 AM |
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Last dividends 25.02. First block in solo?
Woot! Amazing company tm! On Btcguils hashrate is droping so it's possible that hardware is switching to solo.... Yep - sorry for the radio silence. First solo block mined and actively moving over to solo - internal hashrate 70-75TH. We still have some failover processes that drop hashrate off to btcguild, but we will be systematically finishing this transition over the next couple days. More optimizing, more hardware, more hashes all coming soon... next couple days........................................................................... .....sigh
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September 23, 2013, 10:22:19 AM |
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2 blocks solved, and report finally changed !
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September 23, 2013, 12:05:54 PM |
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btct.co is going to be shut down. If picostocks.com can help move all asserts in btct.co to its own site, it can develop forward for a big step. Maybe This is an opportunity.
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September 23, 2013, 01:53:17 PM |
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how about when the hashrate at 200TH? is it done??
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September 23, 2013, 02:38:38 PM |
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2 blocks solved, and report finally changed !
Just curious - where are you looking at this info? Does it appear on picostocks somehwere?
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September 23, 2013, 02:47:05 PM |
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2 blocks solved, and report finally changed !
Just curious - where are you looking at this info? Does it appear on picostocks somehwere? https://picostocks.com/stocks/bitcoins/19 here you can see incoming BTC and dividends paid. https://picostocks.com/docs/index/19 reports
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September 23, 2013, 02:50:11 PM |
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Thanks. Just didn't look hard enough, I guess....
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September 23, 2013, 02:53:37 PM |
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Thanks. Just didn't look hard enough, I guess....
On the right side you have links. Last report, Last transaction, Bussines plan, Assets IPO and divident account. All are clickable.
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September 23, 2013, 02:55:32 PM |
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Yes. Kind of hidden off to the side of the non-resizing page... Thanks. All set now...
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September 23, 2013, 06:18:03 PM |
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btct.co is going to be shut down. If picostocks.com can help move all asserts in btct.co to its own site, it can develop forward for a big step. Maybe This is an opportunity. +1
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September 24, 2013, 02:04:44 AM |
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So.... Is picostocks dividends posting broken? Seems to be stuck here and has been for hours:
Id Amount Status Time Block Hash Transaction 507 8.73929755 init 2013-09-23 23:31:19 ----- 42ba4186890943c2..
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September 24, 2013, 04:28:41 AM |
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yeah, looks like their bitcoind is broken or something.
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