majones
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November 06, 2016, 02:13:55 PM |
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Am I the only one who thinks mixers are useless?
Everyone who has average skills can protect his privacy without using such services.
They're not useless at all. Rather than using a VPN or proxy constantly it's so much easier to just anonymously mix your coins. I would suggest everyone mix their coins regularly because why not? It's a small price to pay for financial freedom. It seems like to protect privacy people would need to do both: mixing/coinjoining bitcoins and hide the IP address. I don't see a reason to mix coins if you're going to associate the new coins with your IP address anyway. Up to my understanding IP address are not binding with bitcoin transactions. Only input and output address are traceable. Maybe a service point of view or from government, we might need to mask our original IP addresses and may need new new IPs. But, that must be totally different case from what benefits we are getting from bitcoin mixers. You are correct that Bitcoin transactions do not contain the IP address of their origin. However, it seems likely that many bitcoin nodes are being run for the purpose of spying on the network. With enough nodes, an agent can identify the IP of the node from which the transaction originated.
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November 29, 2016, 06:53:04 AM Last edit: November 29, 2016, 07:21:28 AM by bitcoin talk |
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Bitcoin mixer severs the links between your old address and a new address by sending coins from you to other people and coins from them to you.
What if the other person is doing something illegal and LE think you are involved in their racket too (even though your not); referring to the "from them to you" bit?
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crairezx20
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November 29, 2016, 05:00:34 PM |
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Only bitmixer and cryptomixer that i saw here that i already tested here and i think they are still legit and it is good to choose them..
Do you think guys how about the torwallet that has bitcoin mixer? planning to use their wallet but upon searching in google i saw some bad reviews. Do you have idea or do you tested this wallet that has built in bitcoin mixer? just asking thanks.
If i use bitmixer and crypto mixer it is a thirdparty but i want is a wallet that has already an option to mix bitcoin..
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November 29, 2016, 06:44:44 PM |
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Only bitmixer and cryptomixer that i saw here that i already tested here and i think they are still legit and it is good to choose them..
Do you think guys how about the torwallet that has bitcoin mixer? planning to use their wallet but upon searching in google i saw some bad reviews. Do you have idea or do you tested this wallet that has built in bitcoin mixer? just asking thanks.
If i use bitmixer and crypto mixer it is a thirdparty but i want is a wallet that has already an option to mix bitcoin..
There is no reason to use an online wallet if you can use an SPV wallet like Electrum. Admin of an online wallet can steal your bitcoins and it happens very often. On the other side, the SPV wallets don't rely on a trusted third party and are much more secure. Torwallet is probably a scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112327.0The bitcoin mixer keeps your bitcoins only for a few minutes or hours. You still have to trust it, but at least it doesn't keep all your bitcoins, only one transaction. We wrote an article about it if you are interested: https://coinmixer.se/en/bitcoin-mixing-service/how-to-use-bitcoin-anonymously/Coinmixer.se is completly right here. I would refrain from using any kind of wallet with integrated mixer. I heard not so pleasant stories about mixing wallets. If wallet provider is equally anonymous as users and are using TOR, then what keeps him from stealing your coins other than his word?
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ardentvolcanoes
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November 30, 2016, 12:44:46 AM |
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i don't know if there are other good bitcoin mixer but you can try bitmixer.io, [banned mixer] and coinmixer.se actually i haven't tried to use any of them as i haven't tried also to use a bitcoin mixer but when it comes to bitcoin mixer this three is the good choices you can have I guess.
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cengsuwuei
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November 30, 2016, 06:52:54 AM |
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i think cryptomixe.io still under bitmixer.io in compare about volume transaction about fast and secure bitmixer.io i think is same cyptomixer.io quality
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December 01, 2016, 01:23:57 AM |
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Instead of using a mixer, you can also consider coinjoin transactions. One of the implementations JoinMarket is pretty successful. You can follow the official thread here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919116.0The advantage is your coins never leave your computer. So no risk of the mixing company running away with your coins.
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CraigWrightBTC
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December 01, 2016, 08:05:04 AM |
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Is it reliable service bitcoin mixing? You don't give the reasons why it is become your favorite mixer and it is new services i have said it on other thread, no one will believe in it and there are no info about mixmybitcoins.com. The most reliable bitcoins mixer is [banned mixer] because they could gave the prove about 2000 BTC in reserve, it can be checked on their thread.
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December 02, 2016, 06:58:53 AM |
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Instead of using a mixer, you can also consider coinjoin transactions. One of the implementations JoinMarket is pretty successful. You can follow the official thread here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919116.0The advantage is your coins never leave your computer. So no risk of the mixing company running away with your coins. What proof is there that its mostly exchanges that interact with JoinMarket and not bad guys, who I suspect,will, eventually?
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December 02, 2016, 05:52:24 PM |
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It is not that weird to use a trusted gambling website for mixing purposes ?
You can deposit bitcoins there and if you want you can even play couple rounds and then get your bitcoins back, that way there is always an option to mix our bitcoins it as well as having fun at the same time if you prefer. (Please note, I am not recommending gambling by any means)
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neochiny
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December 03, 2016, 12:21:11 AM |
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It is not that weird to use a trusted gambling website for mixing purposes ?
You can deposit bitcoins there and if you want you can even play couple rounds and then get your bitcoins back, that way there is always an option to mix our bitcoins it as well as having fun at the same time if you prefer. (Please note, I am not recommending gambling by any means)
Possible. But we would have to use a really trusted casino. Also, we'd have to wait for the deposits to confirm as well as wait for the casino to process withdrawal. Not really a problem as long as it's a casino that you know has no issues regarding withdrawal. There's also the thing that the transaction would be traced back to a gambling site but that shouldn't be an issue for most. Thanks. Will check it out in detail soon.
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PokerFace3
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December 04, 2016, 12:51:35 PM |
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It is not that weird to use a trusted gambling website for mixing purposes ?
You can deposit bitcoins there and if you want you can even play couple rounds and then get your bitcoins back, that way there is always an option to mix our bitcoins it as well as having fun at the same time if you prefer. (Please note, I am not recommending gambling by any means)
Does this sound like using exchanges as online wallets ? Why not we use specialized services for a specific requirement ? Currently there are many reliable and cheaper mixing services are available like bitblender and why not make use of them ? If a Casino pays using same addresses and in long run you maybe tracked and identified somehow then your type of mixing may not serve its real purposes.
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blockman
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December 04, 2016, 02:56:16 PM |
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It is not that weird to use a trusted gambling website for mixing purposes ?
You can deposit bitcoins there and if you want you can even play couple rounds and then get your bitcoins back, that way there is always an option to mix our bitcoins it as well as having fun at the same time if you prefer. (Please note, I am not recommending gambling by any means)
Because there are exchange sites that doesn't accept payments that came from gambling sites you still you are required to use some mixing services but I got your point there and that's a good idea though unless the bitcoin you got back will be accepted for whatever purpose you will do.
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December 05, 2016, 11:02:57 PM |
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Does anybody know what is the maximum or average level of taint on bitmixer. Would be interesting to know. Im sure the levels vary.
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bohr
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December 06, 2016, 03:56:25 AM |
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Why do people use mixers if their coins are clean?
I'm not bothered about why if they do it to cover anything just wondered why. Bitcoin is anonymous any way so who cares if the coins have been used in darkmarkets before or whatever.
Even if you are not doing anything illegal, some people may not like the fact that some of their transactions could be traced back to them specially if you don't want the rest of the world know about what kind of services or products you are buying.
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Ewinsane
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December 06, 2016, 01:14:57 PM |
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i think bitmixer is good than other bitcoin mixer because i also use bitcoin it and i feel its very trusted and secure and there is a lot of people are using bitcoin for mixing their bitcoin and bitcoin is very popular than other.
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CraigWrightBTC
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December 10, 2016, 11:29:15 AM |
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i think bitmixer is good than other bitcoin mixer because i also use bitcoin it and i feel its very trusted and secure and there is a lot of people are using bitcoin for mixing their bitcoin and bitcoin is very popular than other.
Yup, many bitcoin mixing services right now that can be trusted are like, bitmixer and [banned mixer], But everything depend on the users, they use bitcoin mixing services that give them comfort except realible. Personality i used [banned mixer] if i have got profit from gambling.
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fancyhash
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December 13, 2016, 06:04:02 PM |
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Hi, im trying to collect all mixers in one thread hereThose who are interested - welcome )
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carlisle1
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December 14, 2016, 08:17:38 AM |
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Hey ya friendss wanna know best and reliable bitcoin mixer which i can use to mix 7+ bitcoins. Please experienced users who have actually mix large quantities of bitcoins please suggest good mixer service?
just like what other people are saying, it's true that bitmixer.io is surely the best and reliable bitcoin mixer and that was the first bitcoin mixer that I know before [banned mixer] . and because it was maybe one of the longest running bitcoin mixer it is surely have great offer to users .
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