Cryptohunters Hypocrisy exposed or: "Altcoins I don't like must be scams!"

[Macrochip]

So he deleted the message. Called it. Reference thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1418343.0

OK... but what about known FUDers ? That's also a form of manipulating the price of a coin and used to be part of of a later pump (pushing down prices to obtain cheaper coins prior the pump).  

Be 100% clear on what fud is. Fud is not presenting facts.

Make your own fudder post. However come with some facts.

Be clear what a fudder is and provide examples of how they fud (what is fud) and add the names. Be sure to prove they have bought in and benefited from buying in at a fudded down price.


If you have some factual grounds to stand on that will stand up to investigation.... Go for it.

Be 100% clear what a pumper is. Pumping is not talking about features.

You made your pumper post, however didn't come with any facts.

Be clear what a pumper is and provide example how they pump (what is pumping) and add the names. Be sure to prove they have sold off and benefited from selling at a pumped up price. <<--Something you totally did in your first post.

I really enjoy your hypocrisy. The fact that you claim your polls were "fair" just makes it better.

Dash was a scam.

Who was scammed? Name one person who was actually scammed by Dash and provide irrefutable proof or admit to the fact that you are spreading lies.

This thread will be an aid to readers finding this board.

No it won't. It's gonna sink down like every other FUD thread into oblivion with zero effect on the grand scheme of things.

I know you will delete this post even though it didn't violate your arbitrary "no swearing" rule, so I will certainly post it elsewhere, to ensure you can't hide your hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy: Applying standards onto others but not yourself.

[cryptohunter]

I told you to repost again on my thread removing your comments on dash not being a scam. You chose not to do so.

Saying you are not defending dash is laughable looking at your post histroy.

[Macrochip]

I told you to repost again on my thread removing your comments on dash not being a scam. You chose not to do so.

Exactly. Because I am not letting you choose what I can and cannot say. Also don't twist the facts: I asked for a name. All you can come up with is repetition "Dash is a scam". I ask "Who was scammed?" and you simply repeat "Dash was a scam".

No use wasting time in your thread then, so I made my own.

[Macrochip]

Saying you are not defending dash is laughable looking at your post histroy.

My post history is completely irrelevant when you look at my question at face value: "Who was scammed?" You fail to deliver any substance thus your statement doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

[cryptohunter]

Saying you are not defending dash is laughable looking at your post histroy.

My post history is completely irrelevant when you look at my question at face value: "Who was scammed?" You fail to deliver any substance thus your statement doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

How is your post history of blantant dash cheerleading irrelevant? when you say in another breath you are not trying defend dash at all.

Please stop lying.

some light reading for you - read through to see the scammers and the scammed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

[Macrochip]

Saying you are not defending dash is laughable looking at your post histroy.

My post history is completely irrelevant when you look at my question at face value: "Who was scammed?" You fail to deliver any substance thus your statement doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

some light reading for you

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

I know all of these threads. Still zero substance as to who was scammed. Who were the poor poor victims of the alleged instamine "scam"? Those who missed out and didn't buy coins for fractions of pennies? Tell me who was directly victimized by the buggy fastmine of Dash. A scam without victims is by definition not a scam.

Some light reading for you too -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

[Macrochip]

How is your post history of blantant dash cheerleading irrelevant? when you say in another breath you are not trying defend dash at all.

Please stop lying.

It is irrelevant because I was asking a simple question anyone uninvolved in this whole thing could ask. It's like seeing a school shooting on TV and the viewer asks "Who was killed?". Does that make the viewer a member of the shooters?
You however evade answering and come up with silly excuses.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Well to be fair, with the hundreds of shitcoins in existence that's how it is in cryptoland.  It's like a nation of tribes and people are extremely biased towards their own tribes.  And that's how you get people to buy your shitcoin.  Am I right?

[cryptohunter]

Saying you are not defending dash is laughable looking at your post histroy.

My post history is completely irrelevant when you look at my question at face value: "Who was scammed?" You fail to deliver any substance thus your statement doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

some light reading for you

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

I know all of these threads. Still zero substance as to who was scammed. Who were the poor poor victims of the alleged instamine "scam"? Those who missed out and didn't buy coins for fractions of pennies? Tell me who was directly victimized by the buggy fastmine of Dash. A scam without victims is by definition not a scam.

Some light reading for you too -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

You know of all these thread and still support and protect this scam


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

check again and make sure you know all the relevant facts here. I really don't think you read through them enough yet.


I will be quizzing you and asking you questions to confirm you have read through these post carefully documenting the facts you seek to determine dark/dash/xcoin is a scam.

Why are you trying to bring up all dash's dark and devious past? why do you want to put them all through it again?

You are suggesting I am fudding with no facts this in not the case.

[Macrochip]

You ain't quizzing anyone here. It's not my job to prove shit to you. I repeat:


WHO WAS SCAMMED BY DASH?

Why do keep evading the question? What do you have to hide? Lack of substance? It's a simple question and you could provide a simple answer. A list of names would be preferrable.

Questioning my motives doesn't answer the question
Yelling "DASH IS A SCAM" doesn't answer the question
Posting the same threads over and over doesn't answer the question

[cryptohunter]

You ain't quizzing anyone here. It's not my job to prove shit to you. I repeat:


WHO WAS SCAMMED BY DASH?

Why do keep evading the question? What do you have to hide? Lack of substance? It's a simple question and you could provide a simple answer. A list of names would be preferrable.

Yes since you are too lazy to read the threads.

Everyone was deliberately stopped from mining on a fair level at the start equally. =  scammed.
Everyone told it was a fair release = scammed.
Everyone who wasn't able to have their instamined coins magnified x 4 with subsequent minting beinig slashed. = scammed.
Everyone being told now it was not a scam and believing you now  = scammed

People defending scam in light of these threads

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0


 = scammers = YOU


Read the thread?

I'm not here to do your research for you.

Shall we use bigger and bigger font size?

Why are you bringing dash down like this? Please seek the council of your community and stop dragging them through it all again.

[Macrochip]

Oh look! Finally some substance for me to deconstruct!

Everyone was deliberately stopped from mining on a fair level at the start. = equal scammed.
Everyone told it was a fair release = scammed.
Everyone who wasn't able to have their instamined coins magnified x 4 with subsequent minting beinig slashed. = scammed.
Everyone being told now it was not a scam and believing you now  = scammed

1. So "everyone" being stopped from mining is a scam even though nobody on the planet was mining then. OK. Logic.
2. I never read the word "fair" anywhere. Citation needed. What was said was 0.0% premined which is true.
3. LOL, so those who had coins were not scammed but those who had none were? So you mean 99.9% of humanity was scammed by DASH? Do you even realize the idiocy of that statement?
4. Ignored for reasons of senselessness.

So your entire argument is this: People who were scammed are those who were scammed.
You have convinced no one. Try harder. Also I asked for specific people. "Everyone" just doesn't cut it. By that logic "everyone" who doesn't have Bitcoin right now is being scammed.

Shall we use bigger and bigger font size?

I chose a bigger font for your benefit. You kept ignoring the question so I feared you had trouble with your eyesight. Apparently I was correct because you finally answered with fontsize 16.

[generalizethis]

2. I never read the word "fair" anywhere. Citation needed. What was said was 0.0% premined which is true.

From dash ANN:

"- Dash is a Next Generation cryptographic currency
- Dash supports instant transactions and privacy using decentralized technology
- Dash has no premine and was fairly and transparently launched
- Total coins will most likely be near 18.9 million (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RpLd87PTs65sz8USrrXwGRoVGVbzaC-nunErEtGSJoE/edit#gid=0)
- Coins will cease to be generated near the year 2300
- Dash uses the X11 algorithm for mining"

Anonymous technology is debatable, but whatever, don't know a single person who is serious about privacy who would recommend or use dash.

[Macrochip]

Citation provided, thanks! Now that the fact is established it can be further scrutinized:

Everyone told it was a fair release = scammed.

How? Was anyone barred from mining at the beginning? Did Evan Duffield personally hold a gun to your head preventing you from mining Darkcoin back in January 2014?

Didn't think so. Thus "fair release" stands as a true fact.

Anonymous technology is debatable, but whatever, don't know a single person who is serious about privacy who would recommend or use dash.

Maybe get to know more people then?
Anyway, Dash's not a one trick pony like the overwhelming altcoin majority. Hasn't been integrated into Lamassu ATMs and Coinapult for nothing.

[cryptohunter]

Oh look! Finally some substance for me to deconstruct!

Everyone was deliberately stopped from mining on a fair level at the start. = equal scammed.
Everyone told it was a fair release = scammed.
Everyone who wasn't able to have their instamined coins magnified x 4 with subsequent minting beinig slashed. = scammed.
Everyone being told now it was not a scam and believing you now  = scammed

1. So "everyone" being stopped from mining is a scam even though nobody on the planet was mining then. OK. Logic.
2. I never read the word "fair" anywhere. Citation needed. What was said was 0.0% premined which is true.
3. LOL, so those who had coins were not scammed but those who had none were? So you mean 99.9% of humanity was scammed by DASH? Do you even realize the idiocy of that statement?
4. Ignored for reasons of senselessness.

So your entire argument is this: People who were scammed are those who were scammed.
You have convinced no one. Try harder. Also I asked for specific people. "Everyone" just doesn't cut it. By that logic "everyone" who doesn't have Bitcoin right now is being scammed.

Shall we use bigger and bigger font size?

I chose a bigger font for your benefit. You kept ignoring the question so I feared you had trouble with your eyesight. Apparently I was correct because you finally answered with fontsize 16.

Oh dear must you continue...

1. Yes this old fallacy and stupid comparison.

It is not reasonable to expect a dev to advertise to the entire globe that he is to release a coin. If he could advertise to the entire world many would not be interested in crypto tokens at this time. HOWEVER to deliberately stop miners ready to mine on this board who are interested and should be able to mine fairly. WHILST TELLING US WHAT A FAIR LAUCH IT IS = SCAM!!!

2. LOL ok so why tell us about 0% premine ?? then INSTAMINE whilst holding off other miners?? That  might as well be the same thing. IT was simply as premine after release ...because it was not released at the time advertised and all the people ready to mine as they did on ALL other releases could not mine.

3. Your comparison again is so stupid I can not help but laugh. The people who mined up all the coins at super instamine speeds with with no competition from windows miners ...then magnified their gains 4x in terms of total minting.  No point saying what about other humans on the planet who don't care about crypto currency , what about aliens ? what about animals? we are talking about being reasonble. If you are going to deliberately inhibit and stop fair distribution within the crypto community and then try to make out you were not trying to do that = scam.

4 MY point was valid the scam has been examined many times and determined a scam by the vast majority. YOu now trying to convince new people that have not had a chance to read those threads that it was not a scam. If they believe you and buy these tokens you will have enabled that scam and by default be part of the scam.

A moment ago you were not even trying to defend dash LOL. Look how that turned out?

Are you still not defending dash??  I am worried about you. Please PM me for futher help I don't want to unravel  your illness further in the public domain.

[cryptohunter]

Citation provided, thanks! Now that the fact is established it can be further scrutinized:

Everyone told it was a fair release = scammed.

How? Was anyone barred from mining at the beginning? Did Evan Duffield personally hold a gun to your head preventing you from mining Darkcoin back in January 2014?

Didn't think so. Thus "fair release" stands as a true fact.

Anonymous technology is debatable, but whatever, don't know a single person who is serious about privacy who would recommend or use dash.

Maybe get to know more people then?
Anyway, Dash's not a one trick pony like the overwhelming altcoin majority. Hasn't been integrated into Lamassu ATMs and Coinapult for nothing.

You have not read the threads have you? I knew you were lying about it like you were when you said " I am not trying to defend dash"

Once again read the threads  - here they are.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

[Macrochip]

If you are going to deliberately inhibit and stop fair distribution within the crypto community yadda yadda yadda

Except that never happened. You're talking out of your ass right now with zero proof.

with no competition from windows miners

Anyone could've gone ahead and compiled their own clients. Technical ineptitude from users doesn't make the developer a scammer. Especially when the code is opensource.

MY point was valid the scam has been examined many times and determined a scam by the vast majority

Nope. You saying "vast majority" doesn't make it so. Dash is the 5th largest cryptocurrency in the world. The actual majority seems to think otherwise. This forum certainly isn't any kind of majority.

A moment ago you were not even trying to defend dash LOL. Look how that turned out?

I didn't say I wouldn't defend Dash in the future. I only said that a simple question like "Who was scammed?" doesn't qualify as "defending Dash". You seem pretty angry that someone's calling you out as a bullshitter. Why so concerned whether I defend Dash or not?

Plus:
You still haven't shown me a single person from those "everyones" who were "scammed".

I knew you were lying about it like you were when you said " I am not trying to defend dash"

Caught you lying there yourself buddy. I never said. Here's the actual quote:

I am not even defending Dash, I was simply asking you to provide a single name of someone who was scammed. Apparently that simple request scared you so much, that you had to delete the entire post and write up this silly excuse of a legitimation.

In that moment it was true. You mad that I am defending Dash now from your baseless lies and accusations? Tough luck. Deal with it.

[cryptohunter]

If you are going to deliberately inhibit and stop fair distribution within the crypto community yadda yadda yadda

Except that never happened. You're talking out of your ass right now with zero proof.

with no competition from windows miners

Anyone could've gone ahead and compiled their own clients. Technical ineptitude from users doesn't make the developer a scammer. Especially when the code is opensource.

MY point was valid the scam has been examined many times and determined a scam by the vast majority

Nope. You saying "vast majority" doesn't make it so. Dash is the 5th largest cryptocurrency in the world. The actual majority seems to think otherwise. This forum certainly isn't any kind of majority.

A moment ago you were not even trying to defend dash LOL. Look how that turned out?

I didn't say I wouldn't defend Dash in the future. I only said that a simple question like "Who was scammed?" doesn't qualify as "defending Dash". You seem pretty angry that someone's calling you out as a bullshitter. Why so concerned whether I defend Dash or not?

Plus:
You still haven't shown me a single person from those "everyones" who were "scammed".

I knew you were lying about it like you were when you said " I am not trying to defend dash"

Caught you lying there yourself buddy. I never said. Here's the actual quote:

I am not even defending Dash, I was simply asking you to provide a single name of someone who was scammed. Apparently that simple request scared you so much, that you had to delete the entire post and write up this silly excuse of a legitimation.

In that moment it was true. You mad that I am defending Dash now from your baseless lies and accusations? Tough luck. Deal with it.

Anyone could've gone ahead and compiled their own clients. Technical ineptitude from users doesn't make the developer a scammer. Especially when the code is opensource

I'm sorry but we have to be reasonable again. All other devs released with window qt and let windows miners mine. It is unreasonable and a full scam to prevent windows miners from mining. If you want to create a poll asking if we should allow releases without a windows qt on future releases feel free to do so.  Sorry your argument and rebuttal seems like an excuse with no reasonable grounds. Dismissed by myself and the vast majority of the board. If this didn't coincide with super instamine settings and subsequent slashing of the minting it would be a scam move. Since it has those too it is rightly considered by the majority of the board to be a super scam.

Even some of your biggest darkcoin protectors now can be found accusing evans of instaming in that thread early on. The fact he was going to airdrop shows he knows the instamining took place. So he acknowledges it but you don't. Ha okay.

Please read the threads

Vast majority of the board and anyone else who examines the facts.

I'm concerned for your reputation only. You are not defending dash. But now you are. Okay so now we know you're pro dash even after presented with the threads proving beyond doubt dash was a scam. I feel this thread damages Dash but if you want to continue posting excuses and trying to twist out of the fact you were making out you were not defending dash but now blatantly are a dash defender then I am happy for it to stay at the top of the main board forever. I would like if they could make this thread a sticky.

Mad that you are making excuses and twisting around going back on what you said. I am not mad I am rejoicing that you came to say hello today. I wish people trying to prove dark is white would come here every day.

It makes me mad when these threads

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

get drowned by more pump threads. You providing such opportunity is like a gift. Thank you. Taoway where ever he is is the founding father but you are the son he would be proud of. He alerted me to the darkcoin scam. You're not Taoway are you by any chance?

[qwizzie]

the hunter turned into the hunted, there is some poetic justice in there  
its also a great way to loose all credibility Cryptohunter  .. if you ever had any.

my advice to cryptohunter : avoid making thread about fudders and spammers and stick with playing the Monero troll, at least your are good at that.

[cryptohunter]

the hunter turned into the hunted, there is some poetic justice in there 

there is no hunting without facts. Bring some or get back to spamming dash.