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June 06, 2013, 11:43:42 PM |
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i have sent BTC 15-20 min after game started, the bet never showed on history page(parlay slip) are you going to return my funds? Bet ID: 43ad7
PM sent. Bet was placed before games, not after. cannot argue with that, was sent very close to the game start but not confirmed till much later, and it never showed up in my bet(parlay) page, how would i know that my bet was accepted or rejected? Needless to say you are taking full advantage of this, if bet loses you accept the bet, if wins you reject it and send money back, win-win for you, looks like a loophole to rip off customers who place wager very close to the game start time This is simply not true. As long as the bet is placed before the game it will always be accepted. The bet time can always be verified by the blockchain. The bet amount does not show up instantly on the bet slip, whether you place it 10 hours before game time or 10 minutes. You placed a bet before a game started, it lost, and would like a refund. We will be out of business tomorrow honoring those requests. if you stated in your TOS that bet is confirmed by time BTC sent shown on blockchain it would be satisfactory, there is not a single word in TOS about it, instead you reserve the right to cancel the bet at your discretion as i said you are taking advantage of customers who placed bets close to start time, you do not confirm or cancel the bet so you can decide after the game and again the bet never showed up in "My Bets" that is my point, you did not accept my bet, otherwise it would show up in "My Bets" It is stated at the bottom of every page that we "may cancel and return any bet if it is placed after a game has started." Your bet was placed before the game started. Is it really that shocking that the bet time is based on the sending time? If you assumed it was the confirmation time why send the bet in the first place so close to game time? Also, bets never show up in "My Bets" after they are placed. The bet slip is for unplaced bets. Once you click "Place Bet", it is removed from My Bets. Go ahead, try it out. Your reasoning is simply wrong. Until you have an actual example of a bet being cancelled, please stop with the accusations. you keep saying my bet was placed 2 min before the game accordingly to blockchain, lets see both games started at 8:10pm EST, blockchain show my bet placed at 8:10pm EST, where did you see 2 min before the game?http://blockchain.info/tx/476a0beda3fc4aac6e59b350fa7724801289178c459096c4d59adac4f3e54f9f
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bit365 (OP)
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June 06, 2013, 11:44:45 PM |
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i have sent BTC 15-20 min after game started, the bet never showed on history page(parlay slip) are you going to return my funds? Bet ID: 43ad7
PM sent. Bet was placed before games, not after. cannot argue with that, was sent very close to the game start but not confirmed till much later, and it never showed up in my bet(parlay) page, how would i know that my bet was accepted or rejected? Needless to say you are taking full advantage of this, if bet loses you accept the bet, if wins you reject it and send money back, win-win for you, looks like a loophole to rip off customers who place wager very close to the game start time This is simply not true. As long as the bet is placed before the game it will always be accepted. The bet time can always be verified by the blockchain. The bet amount does not show up instantly on the bet slip, whether you place it 10 hours before game time or 10 minutes. You placed a bet before a game started, it lost, and would like a refund. We will be out of business tomorrow honoring those requests. if you stated in your TOS that bet is confirmed by time BTC sent shown on blockchain it would be satisfactory, there is not a single word in TOS about it, instead you reserve the right to cancel the bet at your discretion as i said you are taking advantage of customers who placed bets close to start time, you do not confirm or cancel the bet so you can decide after the game and again the bet never showed up in "My Bets" that is my point, you did not accept my bet, otherwise it would show up in "My Bets" It is stated at the bottom of every page that we "may cancel and return any bet if it is placed after a game has started." Your bet was placed before the game started. Is it really that shocking that the bet time is based on the sending time? If you assumed it was the confirmation time why send the bet in the first place so close to game time? Also, bets never show up in "My Bets" after they are placed. The bet slip is for unplaced bets. Once you click "Place Bet", it is removed from My Bets. Go ahead, try it out. Your reasoning is simply wrong. Until you have an actual example of a bet being cancelled, please stop with the accusations. you keep saying my bet was placed 2 min before the game accordingly to blockchain, lets see both games started at 8:10pm EST, blockchain show my bet placed at 8:10pm EST, where did you see 2 min before the game?http://blockchain.info/tx/476a0beda3fc4aac6e59b350fa7724801289178c459096c4d59adac4f3e54f9fBet time: 2013-06-06 00:09:10 Game time: 2013-06-06 00:10:00 I'm sorry, 1 minute before game time, not 2. Why does that matter in the slightest? Your reasoning is getting absurd.
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Crypto0
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June 07, 2013, 12:19:47 AM |
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i have sent BTC 15-20 min after game started, the bet never showed on history page(parlay slip) are you going to return my funds? Bet ID: 43ad7
PM sent. Bet was placed before games, not after. cannot argue with that, was sent very close to the game start but not confirmed till much later, and it never showed up in my bet(parlay) page, how would i know that my bet was accepted or rejected? Needless to say you are taking full advantage of this, if bet loses you accept the bet, if wins you reject it and send money back, win-win for you, looks like a loophole to rip off customers who place wager very close to the game start time This is simply not true. As long as the bet is placed before the game it will always be accepted. The bet time can always be verified by the blockchain. The bet amount does not show up instantly on the bet slip, whether you place it 10 hours before game time or 10 minutes. You placed a bet before a game started, it lost, and would like a refund. We will be out of business tomorrow honoring those requests. if you stated in your TOS that bet is confirmed by time BTC sent shown on blockchain it would be satisfactory, there is not a single word in TOS about it, instead you reserve the right to cancel the bet at your discretion as i said you are taking advantage of customers who placed bets close to start time, you do not confirm or cancel the bet so you can decide after the game and again the bet never showed up in "My Bets" that is my point, you did not accept my bet, otherwise it would show up in "My Bets" It is stated at the bottom of every page that we "may cancel and return any bet if it is placed after a game has started." Your bet was placed before the game started. Is it really that shocking that the bet time is based on the sending time? If you assumed it was the confirmation time why send the bet in the first place so close to game time? Also, bets never show up in "My Bets" after they are placed. The bet slip is for unplaced bets. Once you click "Place Bet", it is removed from My Bets. Go ahead, try it out. Your reasoning is simply wrong. Until you have an actual example of a bet being cancelled, please stop with the accusations. you keep saying my bet was placed 2 min before the game accordingly to blockchain, lets see both games started at 8:10pm EST, blockchain show my bet placed at 8:10pm EST, where did you see 2 min before the game?http://blockchain.info/tx/476a0beda3fc4aac6e59b350fa7724801289178c459096c4d59adac4f3e54f9fbecause when i tried to place the bet at 8:06pm the original bet slip says i have 2 minutes to place the bet, which is 2 min before the game, 8:08 is the cut-off time, my bet placed at 8:09:10, after cut-off time, therefore the bet was placed after the game!!! how is my reasoning now?
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bit365 (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 12:27:57 AM |
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i have sent BTC 15-20 min after game started, the bet never showed on history page(parlay slip) are you going to return my funds? Bet ID: 43ad7
PM sent. Bet was placed before games, not after. cannot argue with that, was sent very close to the game start but not confirmed till much later, and it never showed up in my bet(parlay) page, how would i know that my bet was accepted or rejected? Needless to say you are taking full advantage of this, if bet loses you accept the bet, if wins you reject it and send money back, win-win for you, looks like a loophole to rip off customers who place wager very close to the game start time This is simply not true. As long as the bet is placed before the game it will always be accepted. The bet time can always be verified by the blockchain. The bet amount does not show up instantly on the bet slip, whether you place it 10 hours before game time or 10 minutes. You placed a bet before a game started, it lost, and would like a refund. We will be out of business tomorrow honoring those requests. if you stated in your TOS that bet is confirmed by time BTC sent shown on blockchain it would be satisfactory, there is not a single word in TOS about it, instead you reserve the right to cancel the bet at your discretion as i said you are taking advantage of customers who placed bets close to start time, you do not confirm or cancel the bet so you can decide after the game and again the bet never showed up in "My Bets" that is my point, you did not accept my bet, otherwise it would show up in "My Bets" It is stated at the bottom of every page that we "may cancel and return any bet if it is placed after a game has started." Your bet was placed before the game started. Is it really that shocking that the bet time is based on the sending time? If you assumed it was the confirmation time why send the bet in the first place so close to game time? Also, bets never show up in "My Bets" after they are placed. The bet slip is for unplaced bets. Once you click "Place Bet", it is removed from My Bets. Go ahead, try it out. Your reasoning is simply wrong. Until you have an actual example of a bet being cancelled, please stop with the accusations. you keep saying my bet was placed 2 min before the game accordingly to blockchain, lets see both games started at 8:10pm EST, blockchain show my bet placed at 8:10pm EST, where did you see 2 min before the game?http://blockchain.info/tx/476a0beda3fc4aac6e59b350fa7724801289178c459096c4d59adac4f3e54f9fbecause when i tried to place the bet at 8:06pm the original bet slip says i have 2 minutes to place the bet, which is 2 min before the game, 8:08 is the cut-off time, my bet placed at 8:09:10, after cut-off time, therefore the bet was placed after the game!!! how is my reasoning now? The 2 minute rule is a general guideline. Your bet was still received before the game started, not after. We do not cancel a bet because it was sent shortly after 2 minutes. We do cancel a bet if it is sent after a game has actually begun, for obvious reason. You will not be receiving a refund. If you feel this is wrong, feel free to bet elsewhere. Discussion over.
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Crypto0
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June 07, 2013, 12:44:54 AM |
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i have sent BTC 15-20 min after game started, the bet never showed on history page(parlay slip) are you going to return my funds? Bet ID: 43ad7
PM sent. Bet was placed before games, not after. cannot argue with that, was sent very close to the game start but not confirmed till much later, and it never showed up in my bet(parlay) page, how would i know that my bet was accepted or rejected? Needless to say you are taking full advantage of this, if bet loses you accept the bet, if wins you reject it and send money back, win-win for you, looks like a loophole to rip off customers who place wager very close to the game start time This is simply not true. As long as the bet is placed before the game it will always be accepted. The bet time can always be verified by the blockchain. The bet amount does not show up instantly on the bet slip, whether you place it 10 hours before game time or 10 minutes. You placed a bet before a game started, it lost, and would like a refund. We will be out of business tomorrow honoring those requests. if you stated in your TOS that bet is confirmed by time BTC sent shown on blockchain it would be satisfactory, there is not a single word in TOS about it, instead you reserve the right to cancel the bet at your discretion as i said you are taking advantage of customers who placed bets close to start time, you do not confirm or cancel the bet so you can decide after the game and again the bet never showed up in "My Bets" that is my point, you did not accept my bet, otherwise it would show up in "My Bets" It is stated at the bottom of every page that we "may cancel and return any bet if it is placed after a game has started." Your bet was placed before the game started. Is it really that shocking that the bet time is based on the sending time? If you assumed it was the confirmation time why send the bet in the first place so close to game time? Also, bets never show up in "My Bets" after they are placed. The bet slip is for unplaced bets. Once you click "Place Bet", it is removed from My Bets. Go ahead, try it out. Your reasoning is simply wrong. Until you have an actual example of a bet being cancelled, please stop with the accusations. you keep saying my bet was placed 2 min before the game accordingly to blockchain, lets see both games started at 8:10pm EST, blockchain show my bet placed at 8:10pm EST, where did you see 2 min before the game?http://blockchain.info/tx/476a0beda3fc4aac6e59b350fa7724801289178c459096c4d59adac4f3e54f9fbecause when i tried to place the bet at 8:06pm the original bet slip says i have 2 minutes to place the bet, which is 2 min before the game, 8:08 is the cut-off time, my bet placed at 8:09:10, after cut-off time, therefore the bet was placed after the game!!! how is my reasoning now? The 2 minute rule is a general guideline. Your bet was still received before the game started, not after. We do not cancel a bet because it was sent shortly after 2 minutes. We do cancel a bet if it is sent after a game has actually begun, for obvious reason. You will not be receiving a refund. If you feel this is wrong, feel free to bet elsewhere. Discussion over. it is not over because you said so, this is not your web site to dictate rules OK.Lets move on Next question Betting rules on your website linked to http://www.pinnaclesports.com, how are you affiliated with Pinnacle? does Pinnacle know you run a gambling operation using their book? I am asking because Pinnacle does not accept USA customers and you do how do you think US Department of Justice would look at your illegal enterprise?
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bit365 (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 12:48:44 AM |
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i have sent BTC 15-20 min after game started, the bet never showed on history page(parlay slip) are you going to return my funds? Bet ID: 43ad7
PM sent. Bet was placed before games, not after. cannot argue with that, was sent very close to the game start but not confirmed till much later, and it never showed up in my bet(parlay) page, how would i know that my bet was accepted or rejected? Needless to say you are taking full advantage of this, if bet loses you accept the bet, if wins you reject it and send money back, win-win for you, looks like a loophole to rip off customers who place wager very close to the game start time This is simply not true. As long as the bet is placed before the game it will always be accepted. The bet time can always be verified by the blockchain. The bet amount does not show up instantly on the bet slip, whether you place it 10 hours before game time or 10 minutes. You placed a bet before a game started, it lost, and would like a refund. We will be out of business tomorrow honoring those requests. if you stated in your TOS that bet is confirmed by time BTC sent shown on blockchain it would be satisfactory, there is not a single word in TOS about it, instead you reserve the right to cancel the bet at your discretion as i said you are taking advantage of customers who placed bets close to start time, you do not confirm or cancel the bet so you can decide after the game and again the bet never showed up in "My Bets" that is my point, you did not accept my bet, otherwise it would show up in "My Bets" It is stated at the bottom of every page that we "may cancel and return any bet if it is placed after a game has started." Your bet was placed before the game started. Is it really that shocking that the bet time is based on the sending time? If you assumed it was the confirmation time why send the bet in the first place so close to game time? Also, bets never show up in "My Bets" after they are placed. The bet slip is for unplaced bets. Once you click "Place Bet", it is removed from My Bets. Go ahead, try it out. Your reasoning is simply wrong. Until you have an actual example of a bet being cancelled, please stop with the accusations. you keep saying my bet was placed 2 min before the game accordingly to blockchain, lets see both games started at 8:10pm EST, blockchain show my bet placed at 8:10pm EST, where did you see 2 min before the game?http://blockchain.info/tx/476a0beda3fc4aac6e59b350fa7724801289178c459096c4d59adac4f3e54f9fbecause when i tried to place the bet at 8:06pm the original bet slip says i have 2 minutes to place the bet, which is 2 min before the game, 8:08 is the cut-off time, my bet placed at 8:09:10, after cut-off time, therefore the bet was placed after the game!!! how is my reasoning now? The 2 minute rule is a general guideline. Your bet was still received before the game started, not after. We do not cancel a bet because it was sent shortly after 2 minutes. We do cancel a bet if it is sent after a game has actually begun, for obvious reason. You will not be receiving a refund. If you feel this is wrong, feel free to bet elsewhere. Discussion over. it is not over because you said so, this is not your web site to dictate rules OK.Lets move on Next question Betting rules on your website linked to http://www.pinnaclesports.com, how are you affiliated with Pinnacle? does Pinnacle know you run a gambling operation using their book? I am asking because Pinnacle does not accept USA customers and you do how do you think US Department of Justice would look at your illegal enterprise? We are not affiliated with Pinnacle. We simply use the same betting rules for grading wagers. It is over because I say so. Wrong again.
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Crypto0
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June 07, 2013, 01:12:04 AM |
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i have sent BTC 15-20 min after game started, the bet never showed on history page(parlay slip) are you going to return my funds? Bet ID: 43ad7
PM sent. Bet was placed before games, not after. cannot argue with that, was sent very close to the game start but not confirmed till much later, and it never showed up in my bet(parlay) page, how would i know that my bet was accepted or rejected? Needless to say you are taking full advantage of this, if bet loses you accept the bet, if wins you reject it and send money back, win-win for you, looks like a loophole to rip off customers who place wager very close to the game start time This is simply not true. As long as the bet is placed before the game it will always be accepted. The bet time can always be verified by the blockchain. The bet amount does not show up instantly on the bet slip, whether you place it 10 hours before game time or 10 minutes. You placed a bet before a game started, it lost, and would like a refund. We will be out of business tomorrow honoring those requests. if you stated in your TOS that bet is confirmed by time BTC sent shown on blockchain it would be satisfactory, there is not a single word in TOS about it, instead you reserve the right to cancel the bet at your discretion as i said you are taking advantage of customers who placed bets close to start time, you do not confirm or cancel the bet so you can decide after the game and again the bet never showed up in "My Bets" that is my point, you did not accept my bet, otherwise it would show up in "My Bets" It is stated at the bottom of every page that we "may cancel and return any bet if it is placed after a game has started." Your bet was placed before the game started. Is it really that shocking that the bet time is based on the sending time? If you assumed it was the confirmation time why send the bet in the first place so close to game time? Also, bets never show up in "My Bets" after they are placed. The bet slip is for unplaced bets. Once you click "Place Bet", it is removed from My Bets. Go ahead, try it out. Your reasoning is simply wrong. Until you have an actual example of a bet being cancelled, please stop with the accusations. you keep saying my bet was placed 2 min before the game accordingly to blockchain, lets see both games started at 8:10pm EST, blockchain show my bet placed at 8:10pm EST, where did you see 2 min before the game?http://blockchain.info/tx/476a0beda3fc4aac6e59b350fa7724801289178c459096c4d59adac4f3e54f9fbecause when i tried to place the bet at 8:06pm the original bet slip says i have 2 minutes to place the bet, which is 2 min before the game, 8:08 is the cut-off time, my bet placed at 8:09:10, after cut-off time, therefore the bet was placed after the game!!! how is my reasoning now? The 2 minute rule is a general guideline. Your bet was still received before the game started, not after. We do not cancel a bet because it was sent shortly after 2 minutes. We do cancel a bet if it is sent after a game has actually begun, for obvious reason. You will not be receiving a refund. If you feel this is wrong, feel free to bet elsewhere. Discussion over. it is not over because you said so, this is not your web site to dictate rules OK.Lets move on Next question Betting rules on your website linked to http://www.pinnaclesports.com, how are you affiliated with Pinnacle? does Pinnacle know you run a gambling operation using their book? I am asking because Pinnacle does not accept USA customers and you do how do you think US Department of Justice would look at your illegal enterprise? We are not affiliated with Pinnacle. We simply use the same betting rules for grading wagers. It is over because I say so. Wrong again. it is not as simple as you imagine, you are linking to gambling website without their permission, at the same time violating Pinnacle Terms of Service, braking the law by running illegal gambling website and scamming your customers at the same time it will be over when your shady business is shut down, i will make sure it will happen sooner than later
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June 07, 2013, 08:36:56 PM |
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Hey, I had a Parley that came up as a loss even though it was correct. It was from a few months ago though on starcraft, I bet Life to beat PartinG and Innovation to beat Flash.. in the first to matches which was the result. however Life and Parting played again later in the tourny and Parting ended up winning, so my bet turned up as a loss. Any Help you could give me would be greatly appreciated. You can see the results by clicking on show results on Group Stage 2 Group B from this link http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Korea_GSL/Code_S#Format.
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bit365 (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 09:00:08 PM |
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Hey, I had a Parley that came up as a loss even though it was correct. It was from a few months ago though on starcraft, I bet Life to beat PartinG and Innovation to beat Flash.. in the first to matches which was the result. however Life and Parting played again later in the tourny and Parting ended up winning, so my bet turned up as a loss. Any Help you could give me would be greatly appreciated. You can see the results by clicking on show results on Group Stage 2 Group B from this link http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Korea_GSL/Code_S#Format. Hi mrgoodcat1509, I will see if I can track that down for you and correct it. Do you still have the Bet ID by chance?
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mrgoodcat1509
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June 07, 2013, 11:06:49 PM |
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Yes I do. Should I just PM it to you?
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bit365 (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 11:07:39 PM |
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Yes I do. Should I just PM it to you?
Yes please.
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June 08, 2013, 06:25:53 PM |
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Hi Bit365, A few people are having issues with bets in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207970.0I said i'd notify you here as they can't post out of newbie yet. Cheers
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bit365 (OP)
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June 09, 2013, 04:47:23 PM |
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Both now sent. We had an issue on the weekend where some bets were skipped over by mistake. If you are missing a payout just PM us and we will make sure it is processed manually. Cheers
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June 09, 2013, 04:49:28 PM |
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Both now sent. We had an issue on the weekend where some bets were skipped over by mistake. If you are missing a payout just PM us and we will make sure it is processed manually. Cheers Noted. Thank you Bit365.
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June 11, 2013, 03:16:25 AM |
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dadach
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June 11, 2013, 11:28:46 PM |
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what wallets have the same address for sending and receiving?
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To DA Moon!!! donations accepted >.< 38nvHaNqF5nv4ifhUyq9CChnBmRs2DSv4r
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June 12, 2013, 03:15:36 AM |
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Blockchain.info has worked for me
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June 12, 2013, 07:33:32 AM |
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Just wondering what the sate of esports on your site is currently since it has been blank for the past couple of days.
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June 13, 2013, 07:34:13 PM |
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Free bump... Dont have much to say beside the point that i like being able to bet without an account.
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