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August 10, 2016, 11:27:56 AM
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All economies are based on money circulating, did you imagined one day all get paid their salarie and dont spend any single coin? No supermarket, no car no work, as no one would buy anything the world would die. With bitcoin its the same, if you saying you are holding to bitcoin get a bigger value to spend it sure, if you wanna to hold it not a problem as well, it may turn into the gold chicken eggs.

I think to take bitcoin price to next level we should keep ourselves engage in spending some coins either digitally or physically as only holding and keeping it idle will make it a weaker currency.
yeah of course spending will help the bitcoin indirectly because it will make bitcoin market or bitcoin transaction becomes active and maybe make prices of bitcoin to be high ?
Yeah thats sort of right. The more people spending bitcoins on a daily basis then the demand for coins will go up and the price will also go up with demand.

If retailers had an incentive to offer good discounts for customers paying with bitcoin then demand and price would rise sharply.
The gambling industry are the major contributor of the demand of supply because there are many gamblers that would gamble regularly, and we are still awaiting for the large merchants to adopt so we can see some great demand of bitcoins and eventually investors will earn profit.

Merchants won't adopt it as its way too volatile. They want stability.

That can be one reason and the other reason could merchants will not love to wait for the confirmation time as it takes long time to get confirmed and that will be headache for merchants.
Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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August 10, 2016, 11:30:11 AM
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That can be one reason and the other reason could merchants will not love to wait for the confirmation time as it takes long time to get confirmed and that will be headache for merchants.

There will be lighting network or other centralised service to accept the bitcoin. The trasnaction speed will be faster.
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August 10, 2016, 11:57:40 AM
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That can be one reason and the other reason could merchants will not love to wait for the confirmation time as it takes long time to get confirmed and that will be headache for merchants.

There will be lighting network or other centralised service to accept the bitcoin. The trasnaction speed will be faster.

Yes and I think confirmation time should not be issue with merchants as it may get better in coming years and merchants can deliver you goods once they see transaction in their wallet no need to wait till 3 confirmations.
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August 10, 2016, 01:17:38 PM
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In future bitcoin will get a legal status somewhere for sure and than we will get a plastic cards and terminals for using bitcoin in offline shops and other  stuff. 


There are some companies who give you smart card and you can collect money through ATM and also use that card to buy things offline. So in future we would say that bitcoin can be accepted directly in stores like we can able to buy things using bitcoin as a direct payment method.
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That can be one reason and the other reason could merchants will not love to wait for the confirmation time as it takes long time to get confirmed and that will be headache for merchants.

There will be lighting network or other centralised service to accept the bitcoin. The trasnaction speed will be faster.
the transactions are really fast right now, we need the confirmations to be faster than it is at the moment, spending bitcoins irl is really hard right now
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August 10, 2016, 09:00:26 PM
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Yes and many other coins have much faster confirmations.


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August 10, 2016, 11:58:27 PM
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To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.


If you are in a restaurant and you want to tip the waiter how would you do it, I have seen that waiters accept only cash so don't know if they accept credit cards tips. Another one is tip those that make shows like football tricks on the public streets in a city. The reason that we can't use in these places is that bitcoin is not designed to be used like cash (physically) so people should have maybe a mobile wallet so we can scan the QR code and send them a payment.
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August 11, 2016, 12:57:38 AM
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sounds pretty good to spend a bitcoin when k ni, because so many things I want to buy, but it may not be good to spend a bitcoin now, because the price bitcoin likely will soon be up, so it would be very bad for us if we do not have much bitcoin at the time, so maybe the best thing to do for the moment to collect bitcoin

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August 11, 2016, 01:13:47 AM
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To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.


If you are in a restaurant and you want to tip the waiter how would you do it, I have seen that waiters accept only cash so don't know if they accept credit cards tips. Another one is tip those that make shows like football tricks on the public streets in a city. The reason that we can't use in these places is that bitcoin is not designed to be used like cash (physically) so people should have maybe a mobile wallet so we can scan the QR code and send them a payment.
There are ways to get around the situations you mentioned.

Print off a couple of paper wallets and carry them with you, if you want to tip a waitress or street performer just pull out the piece of paper and use your phone to add the amount you wish to tip the person.
If they are not already into bitcoin then you have just educated someone new to the bitcoin world. If they are already using btc then they will most likely have a hot wallet on their phone and can offer you the QR code to scan.

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August 11, 2016, 01:41:06 AM
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To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.


I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency.  Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same.  People are still unaware of crytos.  It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use.  I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink.  It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card.  All transactions online will be hassle free.
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August 11, 2016, 01:50:04 AM
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To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.


I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency.  Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same.  People are still unaware of crytos.  It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use.  I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink.  It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card.  All transactions online will be hassle free.
I don't think all bitcoin debit cards are country specific, do a google search and see if you can find one that you can use in your country.
They are a great addition to the bitcoin world in these early days.

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August 11, 2016, 03:37:24 AM
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To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.


I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency.  Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same.  People are still unaware of crytos.  It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use.  I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink.  It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card.  All transactions online will be hassle free.
I don't think all bitcoin debit cards are country specific, do a google search and see if you can find one that you can use in your country.
They are a great addition to the bitcoin world in these early days.
The best use of debit card is when you are travelling most of the time because you only need to fund your debit card with your bitcoins and you will not be bringing dollars in that case, that is to give the people and convenience and of course it comes with a service fee.

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August 11, 2016, 02:35:07 PM
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To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.


I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency.  Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same.  People are still unaware of crytos.  It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use.  I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink.  It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card.  All transactions online will be hassle free.
I don't think all bitcoin debit cards are country specific, do a google search and see if you can find one that you can use in your country.
They are a great addition to the bitcoin world in these early days.
The best use of debit card is when you are travelling most of the time because you only need to fund your debit card with your bitcoins and you will not be bringing dollars in that case, that is to give the people and convenience and of course it comes with a service fee.

That could be a good idea. So far, I have not used any debit with my bitcoin as the fee is quite high at present.
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August 12, 2016, 12:20:42 AM
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To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.


I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency.  Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same.  People are still unaware of crytos.  It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use.  I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink.  It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card.  All transactions online will be hassle free.
I don't think all bitcoin debit cards are country specific, do a google search and see if you can find one that you can use in your country.
They are a great addition to the bitcoin world in these early days.
The best use of debit card is when you are travelling most of the time because you only need to fund your debit card with your bitcoins and you will not be bringing dollars in that case, that is to give the people and convenience and of course it comes with a service fee.

That could be a good idea. So far, I have not used any debit with my bitcoin as the fee is quite high at present.
What card and what fees are you talking about?
Some cards do have high top up rates and also hit you with a couple of dollars surcharge to withdraw cash, most allow you to spend with no extra charges now though.

There are many card competing on the market now so fees will drop soon.  Smiley

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August 12, 2016, 02:46:07 AM
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Most credit/debit cards that are topped up by bitcoin should work at anywhere visa/masters are accepted. Else, why would we have them? It'd be pretty embarrassing to sell one and find out that they don't work.
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August 12, 2016, 05:43:59 AM
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To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.


I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency.  Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same.  People are still unaware of crytos.  It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use.  I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink.  It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card.  All transactions online will be hassle free.
I don't think all bitcoin debit cards are country specific, do a google search and see if you can find one that you can use in your country.
They are a great addition to the bitcoin world in these early days.
The best use of debit card is when you are travelling most of the time because you only need to fund your debit card with your bitcoins and you will not be bringing dollars in that case, that is to give the people and convenience and of course it comes with a service fee.

That could be a good idea. So far, I have not used any debit with my bitcoin as the fee is quite high at present.
What card and what fees are you talking about?
Some cards do have high top up rates and also hit you with a couple of dollars surcharge to withdraw cash, most allow you to spend with no extra charges now though.

There are many card competing on the market now so fees will drop soon.  Smiley
Could you share some debit cards that does not have a fee when you withdraw in a bank. I am really interested because I want to directly transfer my bitcoins in my debit card if that is possible.

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October 11, 2016, 08:17:43 AM
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It needs not only a plastic card. Need the terminal to read it. At this time that read right now probably will not work?
I do not think that it is the best idea to spend your Bitcoin if you are here to use them as an investment and make money with them.
You should then only hold on to them and try trading them but not spending them.
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October 11, 2016, 09:22:40 AM
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To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.


I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency.  Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same.  People are still unaware of crytos.  It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use.  I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink.  It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card.  All transactions online will be hassle free.
I don't think all bitcoin debit cards are country specific, do a google search and see if you can find one that you can use in your country.
They are a great addition to the bitcoin world in these early days.
The best use of debit card is when you are travelling most of the time because you only need to fund your debit card with your bitcoins and you will not be bringing dollars in that case, that is to give the people and convenience and of course it comes with a service fee.

That could be a good idea. So far, I have not used any debit with my bitcoin as the fee is quite high at present.
What card and what fees are you talking about?
Some cards do have high top up rates and also hit you with a couple of dollars surcharge to withdraw cash, most allow you to spend with no extra charges now though.

There are many card competing on the market now so fees will drop soon.  Smiley
Could you share some debit cards that does not have a fee when you withdraw in a bank. I am really interested because I want to directly transfer my bitcoins in my debit card if that is possible.
Check out the cards on this list if you are looking for one, not all cards are listed and it would be a good idea to check out a couple more before making a decision.

The only card on the below list i would say to not bother with would be the BitPlastic card, besides from the fact that it's a nameless card it also cost 0.25btc just for the card.
Have a look at this list: https://cointelegraph.com/news/6-cards-battle-for-bitcoin-supremacy-bitcoin-debit-card-comparison-test

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October 11, 2016, 10:40:54 AM
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In my country only in bali you can spend bitcoin to buy food because i'm not life at there so what can do spend bitcoin it's only for buy steam code not daily but once in a week.
where's bali by the way,never heard of it to be honest but it's must be a good place when bitcoin accepted there even though never been there,and yeah steam is accepting bitcoin and you can freely spending bitcoin there but they could remove bitcoin in everytime as if having such a bad price dumping

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October 11, 2016, 10:52:10 AM
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Most credit/debit cards that are topped up by bitcoin should work at anywhere visa/masters are accepted. Else, why would we have them? It'd be pretty embarrassing to sell one and find out that they don't work.
I do not quite understand about the workings of bitcoin debit card, but I think it will be like you're using a credit card visa or mastercard as usual. I saw debit card bitcoin using the system of mastercard, so you can use a debit card bitcoin to shop when the store receives mastercard for payment
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