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May 09, 2016, 12:41:24 PM
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A reminder for all buyers: Always use escrow!

Why? Some of us has more well known reputations then the escrow agents, an agent could actually introduce a extra point of failure in some cases.

Why? Conflict of interest. Because if there would be a dispute a third party, the escrow, can act as security and do a refund to both parties. I would suggest OgNasty.

The escrow could also disappear, lose the coin, get hacked, get hit by a bus etc... same could happen to the seller, only it adds two points of failure. Also if charges a fee... All I'm saying is telling people to *always* use escrow as though it's some kind of silver bullet is not a fair statement. It's only marginally better then a trusted seller imho.

We could use account control and phased transactions from Nxt. For example, if 2 out of 3 escrow's agree on paying the profit then the transactions will become active. So if 1 out of 3 gets hit by a bus, the ammount can still be send. Nxt has these features already functional.

Sorry but I'm not following how you could trade iota/btc using nxt. One solution however is using btc multisig to create a 2 of 3 multisig for the btc deposit, with the escrow holding one of the keys. This is generally not simple enough for most users though.
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May 09, 2016, 07:28:47 PM
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One solution however is using btc multisig to create a 2 of 3 multisig for the btc deposit, with the escrow holding one of the keys. This is generally not simple enough for most users though.

Coinb.it is an excellent website that allows people to easily set up 2 of 3 escrows. Still a little more technical, but a much safer solution.
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May 09, 2016, 07:49:16 PM
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A reminder for all buyers: Always use escrow!

Why? Some of us has more well known reputations then the escrow agents, an agent could actually introduce a extra point of failure in some cases.

Why? Conflict of interest. Because if there would be a dispute a third party, the escrow, can act as security and do a refund to both parties. I would suggest OgNasty.

The escrow could also disappear, lose the coin, get hacked, get hit by a bus etc... same could happen to the seller, only it adds two points of failure. Also if charges a fee... All I'm saying is telling people to *always* use escrow as though it's some kind of silver bullet is not a fair statement. It's only marginally better then a trusted seller imho.

We could use account control and phased transactions from Nxt. For example, if 2 out of 3 escrow's agree on paying the profit then the transactions will become active. So if 1 out of 3 gets hit by a bus, the ammount can still be send. Nxt has these features already functional.

Sorry but I'm not following how you could trade iota/btc using nxt. One solution however is using btc multisig to create a 2 of 3 multisig for the btc deposit, with the escrow holding one of the keys. This is generally not simple enough for most users though.

By using SuperBTC ( assets tied to BTC )

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May 09, 2016, 08:20:49 PM
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A reminder for all buyers: Always use escrow!

Why? Some of us has more well known reputations then the escrow agents, an agent could actually introduce a extra point of failure in some cases.

Why? Conflict of interest. Because if there would be a dispute a third party, the escrow, can act as security and do a refund to both parties. I would suggest OgNasty.

The escrow could also disappear, lose the coin, get hacked, get hit by a bus etc... same could happen to the seller, only it adds two points of failure. Also if charges a fee... All I'm saying is telling people to *always* use escrow as though it's some kind of silver bullet is not a fair statement. It's only marginally better then a trusted seller imho.

We could use account control and phased transactions from Nxt. For example, if 2 out of 3 escrow's agree on paying the profit then the transactions will become active. So if 1 out of 3 gets hit by a bus, the ammount can still be send. Nxt has these features already functional.

Sorry but I'm not following how you could trade iota/btc using nxt. One solution however is using btc multisig to create a 2 of 3 multisig for the btc deposit, with the escrow holding one of the keys. This is generally not simple enough for most users though.

It is simple in Nxt.
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May 10, 2016, 11:17:58 AM
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Sorry I'm still not understanding why I'd want to rely on another system for something Btc can already do natively? How would it be more simple then coinb.it? Seems too complex, let's live in the real world, I do not actually see buyers being willing to go through that... buying nxt, learning the system, seller have to teach the buyer things... this is not feasible.
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May 10, 2016, 12:37:46 PM
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My up to date sale amounts:

111,181,240,000.00 Sold @ 1 btc  cc001
333,543,720,000.00 @ 3btc schnib
222,362,480,000.00 @ 2btc Metaphilibert
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc Yeash20
333,543,720,000.00 @ 3 btc arjen01
166,771,860,000.00 @ 1.5btc MoneyTeam
11,118,124,000.00  @ 0.1btc tk88one
138,976,550,000.00 @ 1.25 btc proto
22,236,248,000.00 @ 0.2 btc adam9910
222,362,480,000.00 @ 2 btc Dexter12
8,894,499,200,000.00 @ 80 Btc bigiotabig
55,590,620,000.00 @ 0.5 Btc Torn
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc zzzman20
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc transpotime21bus
544,788,076,000 @ 4.9 btc [anon]
55,590,620,000 @ 0.5 btc SupZ


Still selling at the price: 1BTC for 100G IOTA - NON-NEGOTIABLE. PM me if interested!
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May 10, 2016, 12:38:58 PM
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Just to remember the buyers: USE ESCROW

who are escrow guys in IOTA community?
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May 10, 2016, 12:48:46 PM
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Just to remember the buyers: USE ESCROW

who are escrow guys in IOTA community?
There are Seccour!!  Smiley
if you need another man, i can open my escrow service  Wink
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May 10, 2016, 02:26:46 PM
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i can sell 5 batchs of 100Giota for 1btc each
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May 10, 2016, 05:23:38 PM
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Sorry I'm still not understanding why I'd want to rely on another system for something Btc can already do natively? How would it be more simple then coinb.it? Seems too complex, let's live in the real world, I do not actually see buyers being willing to go through that... buying nxt, learning the system, seller have to teach the buyer things... this is not feasible.

Because in Nxt you don't have to trust third parties. Tell me how BTC can do this natively. And... Nxt is very easy to learn! That's why I joined Nxt in the first place.  Grin
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May 10, 2016, 07:12:01 PM
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I am selling a batch of IOTA on the Nxt Asset Exchange: https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/(ann)-giota-iota-backed-asset/

The asset is called GIOTA with account id: 9464815973295323291
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May 10, 2016, 08:49:15 PM
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Is there any way I can get my hands on some IOTA with escrow? Sorry for the noob question but how does it work if its not launched yet?

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May 10, 2016, 09:31:04 PM
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Is there any way I can get my hands on some IOTA with escrow? Sorry for the noob question but how does it work if its not launched yet?
Yes, you can buy from me with escrow of Seccour  Smiley
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May 11, 2016, 11:11:30 AM
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My up to date sale amounts:

111,181,240,000.00 Sold @ 1 btc  cc001
333,543,720,000.00 @ 3btc schnib
222,362,480,000.00 @ 2btc Metaphilibert
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc Yeash20
333,543,720,000.00 @ 3 btc arjen01
166,771,860,000.00 @ 1.5btc MoneyTeam
11,118,124,000.00  @ 0.1btc tk88one
138,976,550,000.00 @ 1.25 btc proto
22,236,248,000.00 @ 0.2 btc adam9910
222,362,480,000.00 @ 2 btc Dexter12
8,894,499,200,000.00 @ 80 Btc bigiotabig
55,590,620,000.00 @ 0.5 Btc Torn
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc zzzman20
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc transpotime21bus
544,788,076,000 @ 4.9 btc [anon]
55,590,620,000 @ 0.5 btc SupZ


Still selling at the price: 1BTC for 100G IOTA - NON-NEGOTIABLE.
PM me if interested! Escrow or non-escrow(preferred) accepted.
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May 11, 2016, 05:32:37 PM
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I am selling a batch of IOTA on the Nxt Asset Exchange: https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/(ann)-giota-iota-backed-asset/

The asset is called GIOTA with account id: 9464815973295323291

My price is 1000 NXT for 1G IOTA. Nice round number.  Smiley
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May 12, 2016, 08:30:28 AM
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First batch of GIOTA assets are sold via the Nxt Asset Exchange! Thank you buyer!  Kiss
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Last edit: May 12, 2016, 10:12:44 PM by yassin54
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[WTS] Sell 139 GIOTA for 100K Nxt, if some person are interressed, you are welcome!!  Smiley

edit "21h12" hours french jeje!! Expire: in 3 hours!!  Tongue

Closed!!  Undecided Cool
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May 14, 2016, 04:14:25 AM
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Can you feel it coming? We're getting close. Very close guys!!

Get in at the last minute from the Top Selling, Most Trusted Iota Seller!



   8 batches added!!  125G iota per batch.

(125,000,000,000 iota) or 44,972 for those having a hard time with new notations

.85 BTC per Batch





      
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OLD LIST



OLD                    NEW                       PRICE

22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         Skormie               straight-sale
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         Wesgen                straight-sale
46,000       NOW   127,858,426,000   1.50   BTC         peer2peer360        Seccour
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         peer2peer360       straight-sale
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         csdndownload       straight-sale
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         nextblast             straight-sale
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         CryptoMrM           straight-sale
22,500       NOW   62,539,447,500     0.75   BTC         Nextblast             straight-sale
120,000     NOW   333,543,720,000    2.80   BTC         BlackFor3st          straight-sale
90,000       NOW   250,157,790,000   2.10   BTC         Nanuk                  straight-sale
218,602     NOW   607,611,035,662    5.10   BTC         Nextblast             straight-sale
180,000     NOW   500,315,580,000    4.20   BTC         passtracker          straight-sale
270,000     NOW   750,473,370,000    5.70   BTC         Ruiz                    straight-sale
50,000      NOW   138,976,550,000    0.95   BTC         AlphaDet              straight-sale
100,000     NOW   277,953,100,000   1.90   BTC         Emperor of Man     straight-sale
150,000     NOW   416,929,650,000   2.85   BTC         Aragoon                straight-sale
50,000      NOW   138,976,550,000    0.95   BTC         Termie                straight-sale
45,000      NOW   125,078,895,000    0.95   BTC         BlackFor3st          straight-sale
  



Congrats to Ruiz on his 6 Batches, and Bitcoinuserz on his 4 Batch purchase!!!

Thanks for the business!!



The 8 batches that are left are straight sales directly through me.

Get em while you can!



You too, can still squeak in at the last moment and join us as an early adopter!!! Be Smart and ......




....BUY NOW!!




*The the process is completed when I receive the BTC payment. At that time you will receive confirmation that you have been added to the list of buyers that will be sent Iotas as soon a CFB gives the green light to do so.







Other general things to take note of and remember:
 

*think twice before supporting any negative comments concerning the repeated requests for more testers. There is nothing wrong with this. You many not like the delivery, but it is imperative we have as many testers as possible. If you don't have the tech skills to do it, like me, donate to the foundation. Let's just stop giving the devs shit and do anything they request if we can.


**I see people point my out bias towards my very bullish estimates towards how Iota will do after launch. It's pointed out that, sure, I would predict such rises in value because I am selling.

However, in the same references to my bias, notice that none of them disagree with my calculations
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May 14, 2016, 07:37:44 AM
 #239

My up to date sale amounts:

111,181,240,000.00 Sold @ 1 btc  cc001
333,543,720,000.00 @ 3btc schnib
222,362,480,000.00 @ 2btc Metaphilibert
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc Yeash20
333,543,720,000.00 @ 3 btc arjen01
166,771,860,000.00 @ 1.5btc MoneyTeam
11,118,124,000.00  @ 0.1btc tk88one
138,976,550,000.00 @ 1.25 btc proto
22,236,248,000.00 @ 0.2 btc adam9910
222,362,480,000.00 @ 2 btc Dexter12
8,894,499,200,000.00 @ 80 Btc bigiotabig
55,590,620,000.00 @ 0.5 Btc Torn
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc zzzman20
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc transpotime21bus
544,788,076,000 @ 4.9 btc [anon]
55,590,620,000 @ 0.5 btc SupZ


Still selling at the price: 1BTC for 100G IOTA - NON-NEGOTIABLE.
PM me if interested! Escrow or non-escrow(preferred) accepted.

Please, can you make a whole list from your buyers? I miss my name.
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May 14, 2016, 04:03:05 PM
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My up to date sale amounts:

111,181,240,000.00 Sold @ 1 btc  cc001
333,543,720,000.00 @ 3btc schnib
222,362,480,000.00 @ 2btc Metaphilibert
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc Yeash20
333,543,720,000.00 @ 3 btc arjen01
166,771,860,000.00 @ 1.5btc MoneyTeam
11,118,124,000.00  @ 0.1btc tk88one
138,976,550,000.00 @ 1.25 btc proto
222,362,480,000.00 @ 2 btc Dexter12
8,894,499,200,000.00 @ 80 Btc bigiotabig
55,590,620,000.00 @ 0.5 Btc Torn
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc zzzman20
111,181,240,000.00 @ 1 btc transpotime21bus
544,788,076,000 @ 4.9 btc [anon]
55,590,620,000 @ 0.5 btc SupZ


Still selling at the price: 1BTC for 100G IOTA - NON-NEGOTIABLE.
PM me if interested! Escrow or non-escrow(preferred) accepted.

Please, can you make a whole list from your buyers? I miss my name.


Sorry about that, looks like I was missing a couple of names that I had on my spreadsheet. Updated!

111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          cc001
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3btc           schnib
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2btc           Metaphilibert
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          Yeash20
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3 btc          arjen01
166,771,860,000.00    @ 1.5btc        MoneyTeam
11,118,124,000.00      @ 0.1btc        tk88one
138,976,550,000.00    @ 1.25 btc      proto
22,236,248,000.00      @ 0.2 btc       adam9910
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2 btc          Dexter12
8,894,499,200,000.00  @ 80 Btc        bigiotabig
55,590,620,000.00      @ 0.5 Btc       Torn
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          zzzman20
111,181,240,000.00    @ 1 btc          transpotime21bus
22,236,248,000          @ 0.2 btc       adam9910
333,543,720,000.00    @ 3 btc          ramsroyal
222,362,480,000.00    @ 2 btc          mr001
113,960,771,000        @ 1.025 btc     braelis
544,788,076,000        @ 4.9 btc        [anon]
55,590,620,000          @ 0.5 btc        SupZ

Still selling at the price: 1BTC for 100G IOTA - NON-NEGOTIABLE.
PM me if interested! Escrow or non-escrow(preferred) accepted.
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