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[QestBTC]

How much time do I have to wait for coins? I sent from the website to the stock market wallet. It's been an hour and no coins! 

[korvas128]

In Crypto the pathetic and incompetent don't last 1 year let alone 2.5 ..... nice to see over these 2.5 years your trolling evolve to accommodate    

9k sat... 80% drop from the ICO price. What's your threshold for "utter shit"? 90%? 95%?

You also need to factor in 2.5 years of masternode staking. At today's price "Utter shit" would be around 2.5k sat. 

My bad I thought after 2.5 years your trolling had evolved 

[QestBTC]

How much time do I have to wait for coins? I sent from the website to the stock market wallet. It's been an hour and no coins! 

Not sure haven't used that service in a while... I've been buying my ion from Bitrex

I'm assuming you mean ionomy.com. If you contact them with your details they will be able to help 

I bought ION on bittrex and sent to ionomy.com the transaction lasted only 5 minutes. When I sent ION from ionomy.com to bittrex - no coins and no transactions

[korvas128]

How much time do I have to wait for coins? I sent from the website to the stock market wallet. It's been an hour and no coins! 

Not sure haven't used that service in a while... I've been buying my ion from Bitrex

I'm assuming you mean ionomy.com. If you contact them with your details they will be able to help 

I bought ION on bittrex and sent to ionomy.com the transaction lasted only 5 minutes. When I sent ION from ionomy.com to bittrex - no coins and no transactions

It's 6 confirmations so the same transaction time of a few minutes max

Your problem has effected a few other people too. Just seen on discord that the hot wallet has run out of ION and is now in the process of refill so expect normal service to be resumed shortly.

If you haven't already join discord as their are people there that can help..... sometimes it's quicker to ask in discord than sending a mail to support  https://discordapp.com/invite/vuZn7gC

[Clif4d]

Nice project I'll be waiting for that date it's such a promising project I believe the out come will be nice I would like to invest

[WildShark]

I genuinely don’t know if Huey & the team actually really care about the price of Ion as a ‘currency’, to be honest. It’s just a means to an end, I think - the aim being to create an ecosystem in which Ionomy as a platform is a hub for game creators & gamers. The original ICO allowed them to finance their venture without needing to go down the standard startup route of seeking VC seed money, and gave them the extra benefit of not being held accountable for scrutiny to a set of regulated investors - the downside of course being that they’ve done this on their own without the access to knowledge & advice that being in a VC/startup incubator environment brings. Boy, could they have done with that. I’d imagine the plan was to monetize things as their operation scaled, and as more and more players & devs used their ecosystem, move away from the ICO funding and reliance on Ion based funding at all. But thus far things haven’t really scaled at all, and they’ve likely got a shrinking runway of funds left. Hence the second ICO dressed up as a secondary venture & obfuscated behind the guise of a different ‘team’ - Deflation Labs, whose workers are 2/3s of Support Labs, which is a 3re venture owned by... Adam Matlack.

[korvas128]

BYE BYE QT hello HTML5 

https://news.ionomy.com/first-look-at-ions-new-html5-wallet/

[WildShark]

This ionomy product is not hitting the streets till FALL... Has the ionomy cult changed and learn to advertise new functionally before it is finished? The ION community is always interested in HYPING a good product...

[WildShark]

Comments from Huey made in Wild's Depot Chat Forum:

"Also all forks are voluntary
The core release updates which signaled over of votes casted by nodes was over 90% so i assume 90% of those holders will be updating
However that is up to them. And you"

[ionomy]

Updated DarkMatter White Paper is now released. More information about fee structures and general edits and housekeeping.

https://www.darkmatter.info/#white-paper

[WildShark]

Comments from Huey made in Wild's Depot Chat Forum:

"Also all forks are voluntary
The core release updates which signaled over of votes casted by nodes was over 90% so i assume 90% of those holders will be updating
However that is up to them. And you"

Discussion from members of Wild's Depot Research & Development team who wish to remain animus for fear of being banned by the illegal ionomy Kangaroo Court:

"Firstly, I think it’s true that Huey & the team does have 90% of the votes. The reason for that is that really, the community of Ion holders is only made up of those who are part of or follow the discord - there isn’t really any other place they communicate or congregate to my knowledge. I’ve sat on the discord chat since it begun, though I’ve only ever lurked, and no one has ever really questioned a single thing Adam or the team has suggested. There might very rarely be a bit of grumbling about the speed at which things happen, but there’s never, or extremely rarely, any actual debate or discussion about the wider plan or direction.

That’s a dangerous thing, because I think it demonstrates that this is just a community of yes-men. I don’t fully know why that is, though I have some ideas. I’d love to know your opinions. I think it’s partially that a lot of the people who are invested are inexperienced in investment full stop, or are naive. Some of the larger investors, like Korvas, for example, are clearly not the smartest people and to be totally, brutally honest, probably don’t have the critical thinking skills to come up with viable alternatives. It’s not their fault, I get that, but it means that there’s very little actual challenge to the teams plans.

MrCoins doesn’t appear to be very active any more, though he’s probably invested in a number of different projects and failure in one in reality probably won’t affect him much. The fact that he was such a strong advocate for this project at all perhaps undermines this, but I feel like he probably has enough experience of alts and investing in general to want to challenge if he desired.

This is very much a top down organisation. It’s a crypto ‘company’ being run mostly as if it’s a traditional company; there’s a lot of tension there between the idea that crypto stands for freedom, consensus, transparency and collaborative work, but the team don’t seem to want to demonstrate much of that. If you’re invested in Ion, largely you seem to have to put up with whatever the team do. And regardless, I don’t think the community has enough skill to come up with an alternative even if it wanted to, and I don’t think it does.

I’ve rambled a bit here, but boiled down it’s three points:
 
1) The Ion community isn’t big enough or engaged enough to possess the collaborative practical skill sets to challenge the plans of the team.

2) The small number of people who are part of the Ion community generally aren’t smart enough to want to challenge the teams direction, and are hostile to those that are because in classic altcoin cult fashion, that’s deemed FUD.

3) The way the team have chosen to run the project and lack of communication doesn’t seem to encourage the cohort of investors to contribute ideas or engage in debate beyond very superficial things.

If we do a bit of root cause, we could hypothesis that perhaps the reason why there isn’t a more active, critical cohort invested is because it was an obviously crap idea in the first place, so it never attracted the sort of investors that might challenge plans to begin with."

[randalmelnik]

Did you ION/Paycoin turds ever do a calculation of the gains you could have made if you had put the money you "invested" in the XPY/ION scam into Bitcoin instead?
It doesn't matter how much ION is worth today. ION's ridiculous gains are a fucking joke compared to Bitcoin. The people who sold you their ION (and their Paycoins) have your Bitcoins and are laughing their asses off.
ION is a scam. It's the continuation of the Paycoin scam. Josh "GAWCEO" Garza is going to jail, and that was not "FUD".

[korvas128]

That’s a dangerous thing, because I think it demonstrates that this is just a community of yes-men. I don’t fully know why that is, though I have some ideas. I’d love to know your opinions. I think it’s partially that a lot of the people who are invested are inexperienced in investment full stop, or are naive. Some of the larger investors, like Korvas, for example, are clearly not the smartest people and to be totally, brutally honest, probably don’t have the critical thinking skills to come up with viable alternatives. It’s not their fault, I get that, but it means that there’s very little actual challenge to the teams plans.

Don't confuse humility or ignorance with stupidity....

What if the community agree with the devs direction, why question something they agree with.

So the thought of a single node receiving multi payouts from multiple coins doesn't appeal to you then okay your choice. I'm assuming the network will be able to handle multiple assets and local storage won't be a problem

Concerning file size I've just downloaded the BTC blockchain it was 180 gig.... a problem a couple of years ago but today a non issue when you consider how cheap storage is, plus every year it's still gonna carry on getting cheaper.

My first ever BTC transaction....

Am I a naive investor?... Well, when you consider my first bitcoin transaction was in Sept 2013 when BTC was just over $100 then no, I'm many things but naive isn't one of them.
 
Crypto for me is a never ending learning curve in which I've made plenty of bad decisions but also made some good ones too. Investing in ION 2.5 years ago was one of my better decisions and in 5 years time could possibly be apart from bitcoin the BEST decision I ever made.

I can't see how your proposal adds any value in fact all I see is negatives but that's probably because as you say I lack the intellect to understand it's significance.
 

[WildShark]

Your fucking moron, if ION is a SCAM they must be worst fucking SCAM artists in the history of crypto..... Why is the scam still running after 2.5 years, ...

Comments from member of Wild's Depot Research & Development team. As always, the member would like to remain aniomous due to fear of being banned by the illegal ionomy Kangaroo Court.

"I just watched the last google hangout the team had (from the end of August - they mentioned that they’d have another in 2 weeks, but typically that didn’t seem to happen). Adam is a moderately skilled orator, though I’d love to see him pushed on what he meant on a couple of things. It’s mostly fluff that’s only really meant for this weird semi-internal very brought in investor group that is made up of the main contributors to the discord, but it’s interesting to watch as an outsider. He mentions that they have more than enough funding - I’d love to know more about that. If you’re going to be transparent and engaged, why not post some accounts? Let’s see a breakdown of how they did in revenue over the last couple of years. Let’s show some true transparency. Let’s let the people who are most invested feel like you trust and value them enough to be that open with them. He mentioned the sponsorship deals and that they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why not break down the benefits that that brought to the brand - did it have a measurable effect on sign up and usage rates, for example? Otherwise, what makes that a valuable thing to do in the future, beyond the fact that you might think it looks cool? Having tried that, what other channels might you try and why? He also alluded to the idea that they feel they’ve proven that they can create products that are fun and appealing to everyone. That’s a very sweeping claim when your products have demonstrated such a limited reach so far. I’d argue that they’ve proven they can create games that are perhaps semi-functional at best and an ecosystem that keeps their existing customers moderately entertained. Nothing more.

What do you think?

[randalmelnik]

 why have they wasted time & money developing games & an ecosystem

You call the pathetic bullshit apps you're shilling for "games & an ecosystem"? LOL. Nobody plays the bullshit games, and nobody's using your fake "ecosystem". ION = XPY.io 2.0. And your friend GAWCEO Garza is in jail.

[suchmoon]

I did do a calculation and can confirm I was made whole 6 months after the ico way back in 2016.

Not that this is any surprise but you're obviously lying. ION price by mid-November 2016 (6 months after the ICO, which ended May 16) was somewhere between 10-20k sat, far off the ICO price of 45-55k.

[korvas128]

Your fucking moron, if ION is a SCAM they must be worst fucking SCAM artists in the history of crypto..... Why is the scam still running after 2.5 years, ...

Comments from member of Wild's Depot Research & Development team. As always, the member would like to remain aniomous due to fear of being banned by the illegal ionomy Kangaroo Court.

"I just watched the last google hangout the team had (from the end of August - they mentioned that they’d have another in 2 weeks, but typically that didn’t seem to happen). Adam is a moderately skilled orator, though I’d love to see him pushed on what he meant on a couple of things. It’s mostly fluff that’s only really meant for this weird semi-internal very brought in investor group that is made up of the main contributors to the discord, but it’s interesting to watch as an outsider. He mentions that they have more than enough funding - I’d love to know more about that. If you’re going to be transparent and engaged, why not post some accounts? Let’s see a breakdown of how they did in revenue over the last couple of years. Let’s show some true transparency. Let’s let the people who are most invested feel like you trust and value them enough to be that open with them. He mentioned the sponsorship deals and that they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why not break down the benefits that that brought to the brand - did it have a measurable effect on sign up and usage rates, for example? Otherwise, what makes that a valuable thing to do in the future, beyond the fact that you might think it looks cool? Having tried that, what other channels might you try and why? He also alluded to the idea that they feel they’ve proven that they can create products that are fun and appealing to everyone. That’s a very sweeping claim when your products have demonstrated such a limited reach so far. I’d argue that they’ve proven they can create games that are perhaps semi-functional at best and an ecosystem that keeps their existing customers moderately entertained. Nothing more.

What do you think?

You should drop the kangaroo court rubbish and advise the person you represent to join the next update asking whatever they want to know or whatever they want to better understand.

As long as they don't break the discord rules they can speak freely 

As you asked... It's taken a lot longer to properly implement the different elements of their business plan so that's  meant that despite the fact that ion is now 2.5 years old the opportunity still exists for people to jump in early and so reap the rewards of being an early investor.  Once these different elements kick in, the first being a totally redesigned Ionomy platform the pricing levels of today are gonna be long gone 

[korvas128]

I did do a calculation and can confirm I was made whole 6 months after the ico way back in 2016.

Not that this is any surprise but you're obviously lying. ION price by mid-November 2016 (6 months after the ICO, which ended May 16) was somewhere between 10-20k sat, far off the ICO price of 45-55k.

That's the first time in the 2.5 years trolling you've called me a liar  oops I lied.... it's every other post over the past 2.5 years you've been calling me a liar. 

What am I lying about now  is it if I recouped my losses , when I recouped my losses or both.

It's 2.5 years since the ICO so I'm assuming it's a when as if is just silly. Now that I think about it a bit more I can't remember if it was 3,6 or 12 months after the ICO.... it was such a long time ago and a lot has happened since then.

The fact is while you assholes are busy trying to discredit ion they're busy ignoring you working hard on turning their business plan into a reality. You just carry on trolling away as the longer you continue the stupider you become.

I'm wondering if your going to make it to 3 years as that has got to be some kind of getting it wrong record.

[WildShark]

That’s a dangerous thing, because I think it demonstrates that this is just a community of yes-men. I don’t fully know why that is, though I have some ideas. I’d love to know your opinions. I think it’s partially that a lot of the people who are invested are inexperienced in investment full stop, or are naive. Some of the larger investors, like Korvas, for example, are clearly not the smartest people and to be totally, brutally honest, probably don’t have the critical thinking skills to come up with viable alternatives. It’s not their fault, I get that, but it means that there’s very little actual challenge to the teams plans.

Don't confuse humility or ignorance with stupidity....

What if the community agree with the devs direction, why question something they agree with.

I can't see how your proposal adds any value in fact all I see is negatives but that's probably because as you say I lack the intellect to understand it's significance.
  

The well written ION proposal supports the ION core team's by utilizing all of their IIPs except IIP_0002 (XDM Token Implementation) and viewed at:
https://ion.community/topic/2787/ion-improvement-proposal-wildonion-node-responsibility

This IIP changes the secondary ION network as follows:

Improve ION network functionality with addition of new Gamernodes being used to process large number of premium game token assets.

The IIP introduces the system requirements and processing imposed on ION Smart Nodes in support of the secondary ION network of the ION blockchain with the current proposed ionomy ecosystem assets.

The IIP will require the implementation with usage of "Smart Contracts" being processed on the ION blockchain. The limit on the number of premium game token assets being implemented on the ION blockchain should be determined by number of active ION Nodes in ION Core network.

The addition of the "Smart Contracts" functionality will increase the value of ION. Having a variety of value assets are extremely useful in any mature ionomy ecosystem.

"Add Smart Contract functionality to the ION blockchain" - introduce the capacity to process contracts on the secondary network using ION wallets.

ionomy Ecosystem Effects

ionomy.com assets and gaming assets can be transacted and accounted for on the blockchain

Smart Contracts creation functionality facilitates new use cases for ION

ION Nodes facilitates network scaling by offloading contract and token management from the core ION blockchain

secondary network based on the number of ionomy assets the wallet owns to register as active Gamernode

Smart Nodes that operate from all ION staking wallets

ION masternode that dynamical activates and controls smart ION nodes

Fees for smart contract transactions performed by the masternodes and gamernodes can be distributed to ION node addresses and/or token addresses.


@Korvas128 Of which of these points do you or the ionomy cult see the proposal as a negative? This is a path that encourages ION members to "HOLD" current ionomy assets instead of investing in "worthless" tokens...

[korvas128]

@Korvas128 Of which of these points do you or the ionomy cult see the proposal as a negative? This is a path that encourages ION members to "HOLD" current ionomy assets instead of investing in "worthless" tokens...

Asking me for feedback, are you serious ?

That’s a dangerous thing, because I think it demonstrates that this is just a community of yes-men. I don’t fully know why that is, though I have some ideas. I’d love to know your opinions. I think it’s partially that a lot of the people who are invested are inexperienced in investment full stop, or are naive. Some of the larger investors, like Korvas, for example, are clearly not the smartest people and to be totally, brutally honest, probably don’t have the critical thinking skills to come up with viable alternatives. It’s not their fault, I get that, but it means that there’s very little actual challenge to the teams plans.

As far as I'm aware XDM is the first it's kind and you've written if off already 

XDM = SOV + Token generation = innovation with utility... nice