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January 08, 2018, 12:29:50 AM
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I agree in part to the principal idea of decentralization. We are a long way from the idea that a decentralized BTC client will be run on every person's computer.

It doesn't have to be a full node for everyone. Electrum or another light client is fine and is about as easy to use as any centralized website could be.

You can't get robbed if you own the private keys (well, short of giving them up at gunpoint I guess). That's pretty much all there is to it. But it's harder to make money off a truly decentralized system so there are always going to be shysters like ionomy trying to coax you into giving up the control without fully disclosing the risks.

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January 08, 2018, 03:21:50 AM
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I agree in part to the principal idea of decentralization. We are a long way from the idea that a decentralized BTC client will be run on every person's computer.

It doesn't have to be a full node for everyone. Electrum or another light client is fine and is about as easy to use as any centralized website could be.

You can't get robbed if you own the private keys (well, short of giving them up at gunpoint I guess). That's pretty much all there is to it. But it's harder to make money off a truly decentralized system so there are always going to be shysters like ionomy trying to coax you into giving up the control without fully disclosing the risks.
More concerned with the big mining players having more influence than was originally intended. I do enjoy our conversations, more so when cheap digs are left out. Smiley
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January 08, 2018, 03:48:11 AM
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I agree in part to the principal idea of decentralization. We are a long way from the idea that a decentralized BTC client will be run on every person's computer.

It doesn't have to be a full node for everyone. Electrum or another light client is fine and is about as easy to use as any centralized website could be.

You can't get robbed if you own the private keys (well, short of giving them up at gunpoint I guess). That's pretty much all there is to it. But it's harder to make money off a truly decentralized system so there are always going to be shysters like ionomy trying to coax you into giving up the control without fully disclosing the risks.
More concerned with the big mining players having more influence than was originally intended. I do enjoy our conversations, more so when cheap digs are left out. Smiley

Except the miners would be left holding worthless bags if the rest of the ecosystem doesn't follow (e.g. they wouldn't be able to dump the coins etc). Sure they can kill the coin just out of spite but that's still "consensus" in a way. Nothing technically wrong with that. I'd still take an oligopoly that is Bitcoin over a 100%-premined-single-entity-controlled coin any day.

Where's the cheap dig? "Shysters"? I had a more appropriate word but chose a family-friendly replacement. Didn't check the price though.

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January 08, 2018, 03:11:01 PM
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January 08, 2018, 04:47:29 PM
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I agree in part to the principal idea of decentralization. We are a long way from the idea that a decentralized BTC client will be run on every person's computer.

It doesn't have to be a full node for everyone. Electrum or another light client is fine and is about as easy to use as any centralized website could be.

You can't get robbed if you own the private keys (well, short of giving them up at gunpoint I guess). That's pretty much all there is to it. But it's harder to make money off a truly decentralized system so there are always going to be shysters like ionomy trying to coax you into giving up the control without fully disclosing the risks.
More concerned with the big mining players having more influence than was originally intended. I do enjoy our conversations, more so when cheap digs are left out. Smiley

Except the miners would be left holding worthless bags if the rest of the ecosystem doesn't follow (e.g. they wouldn't be able to dump the coins etc). Sure they can kill the coin just out of spite but that's still "consensus" in a way. Nothing technically wrong with that. I'd still take an oligopoly that is Bitcoin over a 100%-premined-single-entity-controlled coin any day.

Where's the cheap dig? "Shysters"? I had a more appropriate word but chose a family-friendly replacement. Didn't check the price though.

A cheap dig is you calling the Ionomy team "Shysters" based on nothing but supposition...... you've been saying this for 2 years now !!!!

Suchmoon when your in a hole it's best to stop digging especially when the hole is 2 years deep  Grin

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https://ionomy.com/en/aff/46cbe5fa1d262e23665191a7c7864072


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https://news.ionomy.com/just-to-be-clear/
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January 08, 2018, 05:54:45 PM
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A cheap dig is you calling the Ionomy team "Shysters" based on nothing but supposition...... you've been saying this for 2 years now !!!!

Suchmoon when your in a hole it's best to stop digging especially when the hole is 2 years deep  Grin

My what in a hole? Roll Eyes Still having trouble with that 3rd grade textbook?

It may look like "nothing but supposition" only to illiterate paycoining morons like yourself who refuse to hear or see anything that doesn't reinforce their worship of the "team". There are plenty of facts on everything from utter incompetence to outright deception. If you consider that a virtue that's your problem but you're in no position to advise on digging.

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January 09, 2018, 03:42:19 AM
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A cheap dig is you calling the Ionomy team "Shysters" based on nothing but supposition...... you've been saying this for 2 years now !!!!

Suchmoon when your in a hole it's best to stop digging especially when the hole is 2 years deep  Grin

My what in a hole? Roll Eyes Still having trouble with that 3rd grade textbook?

It may look like "nothing but supposition" only to illiterate paycoining morons like yourself who refuse to hear or see anything that doesn't reinforce their worship of the "team". There are plenty of facts on everything from utter incompetence to outright deception. If you consider that a virtue that's your problem but you're in no position to advise on digging.

What outright deception ?

What utter incompetence ?

List them here then as a community lets discuss

Ionomy V3 for Wallets - Masternodes - Trading - Games
https://ionomy.com/en/aff/46cbe5fa1d262e23665191a7c7864072


For the few TROLLS left some inconvenient statements of FACT
https://news.ionomy.com/just-to-be-clear/
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January 09, 2018, 04:25:36 AM
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What outright deception ?

What utter incompetence ?

List them here then as a community lets discuss

Wow, big words, "community". Hilarious coming from someone whose first post was...

And this is why 95% of this website is full of shit.... and you wonder why the devs don't respond... would you when you know that everything you post is going to be twisted into whatever agenda the person posting wants.... this place is toxic

There will be no discussion other than you screaming "photoshop" or "Canadian".

If you wanted a discussion - you had 2 years... Here are a few samples of shit that you chose to shill hard for instead of discussing.

One game per month - such a bold strategy until it wasn't.
Ionomy was really truly headquartered in Singapore, until it wasn't.
Gravity was going to be a great game (totally legit bikini reviewers and all) until nobody wanted to play it... other than cheaters taking advantage of team's incompetence.
Two hardforks and the diff adjustment is still fucked up.
Missing every deadline imaginable, even the self-imposed ones that no one asked for.
How's that XPY burn coming?

I could go on for quite a while but we both know you're just looking for an excuse to shill some more, so go ahead.

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January 09, 2018, 04:06:21 PM
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What outright deception ?

What utter incompetence ?

List them here then as a community lets discuss

Wow, big words, "community". Hilarious coming from someone whose first post was...

And this is why 95% of this website is full of shit.... and you wonder why the devs don't respond... would you when you know that everything you post is going to be twisted into whatever agenda the person posting wants.... this place is toxic

There will be no discussion other than you screaming "photoshop" or "Canadian".

If you wanted a discussion - you had 2 years... Here are a few samples of shit that you chose to shill hard for instead of discussing.

One game per month - such a bold strategy until it wasn't.
Ionomy was really truly headquartered in Singapore, until it wasn't.
Gravity was going to be a great game (totally legit bikini reviewers and all) until nobody wanted to play it... other than cheaters taking advantage of team's incompetence.
Two hardforks and the diff adjustment is still fucked up.
Missing every deadline imaginable, even the self-imposed ones that no one asked for.
How's that XPY burn coming?

I could go on for quite a while but we both know you're just looking for an excuse to shill some more, so go ahead.

So glad my wife doesn't have all my stuff written down forever....but wait her memory is pretty good... Smiley  Any chance of you guys burying the hatchet, and not in each other's heads?  Smiley
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January 09, 2018, 05:58:10 PM
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So glad my wife doesn't have all my stuff written down forever....but wait her memory is pretty good... Smiley  Any chance of you guys burying the hatchet, and not in each other's heads?  Smiley

Where's the fun in that?

Here is a pic of a Canadian hatchet for korvas. Gonna need a big hole to bury that.


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January 09, 2018, 09:04:16 PM
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Closing Bell Report... ION Rocket cruising at THREE Dollars Mark


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ION Master Node[10K IONs] + ION Smart Node[500 Atoms] + All ION Staking Wallets = 18 IONs Block Reward for WILD Innovative ION Network ownership (WIN concept)
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What outright deception ?

What utter incompetence ?

List them here then as a community lets discuss

Wow, big words, "community". Hilarious coming from someone whose first post was...

And this is why 95% of this website is full of shit.... and you wonder why the devs don't respond... would you when you know that everything you post is going to be twisted into whatever agenda the person posting wants.... this place is toxic

There will be no discussion other than you screaming "photoshop" or "Canadian".

If you wanted a discussion - you had 2 years... Here are a few samples of shit that you chose to shill hard for instead of discussing.

One game per month - such a bold strategy until it wasn't.
Ionomy was really truly headquartered in Singapore, until it wasn't.
Gravity was going to be a great game (totally legit bikini reviewers and all) until nobody wanted to play it... other than cheaters taking advantage of team's incompetence.
Two hardforks and the diff adjustment is still fucked up.
Missing every deadline imaginable, even the self-imposed ones that no one asked for.
How's that XPY burn coming?

I could go on for quite a while but we both know you're just looking for an excuse to shill some more, so go ahead.

So glad my wife doesn't have all my stuff written down forever....but wait her memory is pretty good... Smiley  Any chance of you guys burying the hatchet, and not in each other's heads?  Smiley

you’re focusing and insisting its a korvas vs suchmoon thing. suchmoon and others have posted points showing dubious actions by the team ie lack of transparency etc and you think its a person a vs person b thing. if you are rational and serious why have you not asked korvas, wildshark and ion team to answer with facts the questions suchmoon and others have asked. you’re targetting hostility... its not the problem. hostility is a symptom of the failure to address points of contention.

if you are serious and want to be rational you should address those points and petition the ion team you support to address them. blind faith can be damaging. adam matlack once did that with josh garza... following in his footateps would be foolish.
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January 10, 2018, 07:18:23 PM
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What outright deception ?

What utter incompetence ?

List them here then as a community lets discuss

Wow, big words, "community". Hilarious coming from someone whose first post was...

And this is why 95% of this website is full of shit.... and you wonder why the devs don't respond... would you when you know that everything you post is going to be twisted into whatever agenda the person posting wants.... this place is toxic

There will be no discussion other than you screaming "photoshop" or "Canadian".

If you wanted a discussion - you had 2 years... Here are a few samples of shit that you chose to shill hard for instead of discussing.

One game per month - such a bold strategy until it wasn't.
Ionomy was really truly headquartered in Singapore, until it wasn't.
Gravity was going to be a great game (totally legit bikini reviewers and all) until nobody wanted to play it... other than cheaters taking advantage of team's incompetence.
Two hardforks and the diff adjustment is still fucked up.
Missing every deadline imaginable, even the self-imposed ones that no one asked for.
How's that XPY burn coming?

I could go on for quite a while but we both know you're just looking for an excuse to shill some more, so go ahead.

So glad my wife doesn't have all my stuff written down forever....but wait her memory is pretty good... Smiley  Any chance of you guys burying the hatchet, and not in each other's heads?  Smiley

you’re focusing and insisting its a korvas vs suchmoon thing. suchmoon and others have posted points showing dubious actions by the team ie lack of transparency etc and you think its a person a vs person b thing. if you are rational and serious why have you not asked korvas, wildshark and ion team to answer with facts the questions suchmoon and others have asked. you’re targetting hostility... its not the problem. hostility is a symptom of the failure to address points of contention.

if you are serious and want to be rational you should address those points and petition the ion team you support to address them. blind faith can be damaging. adam matlack once did that with josh garza... following in his footateps would be foolish.
I am not focusing and insisting it is anything, except that they consider taking a step back from insulting each other. We can communicate without that and all be better off. Serious? I had lots of smiley faces.
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January 10, 2018, 07:27:26 PM
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I am not focusing and insisting it is anything, except that they consider taking a step back from insulting each other. We can communicate without that and all be better off. Serious? I had lots of smiley faces.

I have considered that and voted 100% in favor of rejecting this proposal due to the fact that korvas makes the craziest shit up when he sees something he doesn't like.

Now that we've handled tone complaint #78, can we get back to discussing ionomy's failings? Thanks.

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January 10, 2018, 08:56:03 PM
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I am not focusing and insisting it is anything, except that they consider taking a step back from insulting each other. We can communicate without that and all be better off. Serious? I had lots of smiley faces.

I have considered that and voted 100% in favor of rejecting this proposal due to the fact that korvas makes the craziest shit up when he sees something he doesn't like.

Now that we've handled tone complaint #78, can we get back to discussing ionomy's failings? Thanks.
Not #78, probably closer to #31. Smiley, and no I would like to continue discussing tone.

... if you are rational and serious ...

... if you are serious and want to be rational ...
#32: It's almost like mind control, I will bait you with how you should be acting to prove your point to my satisfaction. Smiley  My point, and then I will let you discuss however you want without me interfering, is that we all have this area of interest, Crypto, and we generally look very unprofessional in our dealings with each other. I believe that if we want to raise the level of acceptance, we need to be tolerable to other viewpoints and interact as if we learned something in the third grade. Off soapbox, you guys hash it out however you need to. It may be a few weeks before I check back in. Everyone be safe!
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January 10, 2018, 09:00:49 PM
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ION Rocket cruising at Three Dollars Mark

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ION Master Node[10K IONs] + ION Smart Node[500 Atoms] + All ION Staking Wallets = 18 IONs Block Reward for WILD Innovative ION Network ownership (WIN concept)
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January 11, 2018, 02:04:20 AM
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I am not focusing and insisting it is anything, except that they consider taking a step back from insulting each other. We can communicate without that and all be better off. Serious? I had lots of smiley faces.

I have considered that and voted 100% in favor of rejecting this proposal due to the fact that korvas makes the craziest shit up when he sees something he doesn't like.

Now that we've handled tone complaint #78, can we get back to discussing ionomy's failings? Thanks.
Not #78, probably closer to #31. Smiley, and no I would like to continue discussing tone.

... if you are rational and serious ...

... if you are serious and want to be rational ...
#32: It's almost like mind control, I will bait you with how you should be acting to prove your point to my satisfaction. Smiley  My point, and then I will let you discuss however you want without me interfering, is that we all have this area of interest, Crypto, and we generally look very unprofessional in our dealings with each other. I believe that if we want to raise the level of acceptance, we need to be tolerable to other viewpoints and interact as if we learned something in the third grade. Off soapbox, you guys hash it out however you need to. It may be a few weeks before I check back in. Everyone be safe!

Funny how your desire for professionalism only applies when there is something unpleasant being posted about ionomy... how about Shark's spam, no lecture for him?

Except it has nothing to do with ION and should be discussed in appropriate threads. Forum rules, check the link in my signature if you need a refresher.

Seriously, cut the crap. Create a thread in Meta or wherever and whine there as much as you want.

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January 11, 2018, 08:33:23 AM
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these guys post charts from...what bittrex? might as well be fake, for a large population bittrex is barely functioning and cant respond to 40-60% of tickets.. but besides that, now ionomy has a new bug, well old but new because i finally bothered to log in after a few weeks. the new bug is not recognizing user logins/ passwords for ORIGINAL accounts. why can't ionomy have it's own exchange? stop relying upon the useless bittrex and spread your wings..hah

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January 11, 2018, 03:43:55 PM
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ION Roocket cruising at Three Dollars Mark.. Starting to run out of fuel in stage 3 of rocket

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ION Master Node[10K IONs] + ION Smart Node[500 Atoms] + All ION Staking Wallets = 18 IONs Block Reward for WILD Innovative ION Network ownership (WIN concept)
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