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san2ok, this coin is done, better sell now than when the price will be 0.
nah.. personally, i my self ALONE could make RISE back to above 2000satoshi, but im only 1person, any SINGLE indonesian can do what i do to reach 2000satoshi ONLY take 37btc, that is only 37 persons buy 1btc 37persons its to small compared to the whole world THINK.. there is always someone buying when you sell you cant sell anything if no one want to buy it meaning=someone other than me or lonerusher playing the price with panic, keeping the price down i assure you guys, this price is NOTHINGGive it some time, Alty will scam pump and dump this before bailing. Stolen funds take time to cool off... Why do you call him Alty? His name is Cormac Lucking. If he scammed you that bad, just sue him or quit crying. I would, but so far I don't feel scammed by RISE. The devs are transparent and cooping with technical challenges. They admit this honestly. They also never lied about copying Lisk code base and they are frequently responding in this thread if you ask them normal questions. People are constantly crying about things that they already knew before the ICO started. Yes the price went down, yes that sucks, but the volume that caused this drop is peanuts. As long as the remaining dev fund is 4x bigger than the market cap I ain't selling at 90% loss. It would be foolish. Just a small reminder about how "so far you don't FEEL feel scammed by RISE" ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fnc3d255.jpg&t=663&c=M5x2tHTaGRDfmg) This is the biggest scam in 2017, 1700 btc scam, they said 1250 btc will start acre, and after they raised 1700 btc, they cancelled it, yeah, it is fucking to make a story to cheat investors. Yeah, this year scam list: RISE-1700 btc LIR-400 btc deCLOUDs-300 btc ION-300 btc(I don't remember how much) one game ico, I forget the name-scam about 3-500 btc oracle, zion, minor scams, less than 50 btc.
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November 20, 2016, 05:03:47 PM |
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What? Are you stupid? I have plenty of money. PLENTY. But only a fool likes to throw money away.
we throw money because we can and we afford to throw, it is nothing to my level, i dont have to think so much just like you did, because its not worth plenty to me seems your PLENTY are not on my level, while im only indonesian middle low guy this RISE only need to go to Indonesian market then, any of us indonesian could make Rise high easy so dont have to sacrificing my self alone do bailout for you guys to bail-out, not worthed for me (i dont like dev team in my own reasons, but as long as they are not running, and responsible to what they believe to stay with RISE success as their goal, its worth waiting, success do take times) (and I do LIKE KITCHEN OFFICE, no reason waste unnecessary budget there) (Please deliver progress) If you like to throw money away then you're an idiot. That's all there is to it. Doesn't matter how rich you SAY you are. Only dumbasses like to waste money.
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November 20, 2016, 05:22:57 PM |
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As i have stated before we are now going to sue the RISE team for fraud and abstraction of funds. I will keep you updated on the process..
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November 20, 2016, 08:28:44 PM Last edit: November 20, 2016, 09:20:26 PM by san2ok |
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If you like to throw money away then you're an idiot. That's all there is to it. Doesn't matter how rich you SAY you are. Only dumbasses like to waste money.
i never say im rich, im ONLY middle low level, but maybe naive, i believe people is good you do happy bully others do you? 1. btw how much Rise you say you had?2. you guys should really show how you are being scammed, can you? and when you picture your self as a smart 3. what can you get for making Rise look bad? will that make you satisfied or lose even more?4. what you should do to make the community grow healthy?
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November 20, 2016, 08:45:34 PM |
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If you like to throw money away then you're an idiot. That's all there is to it. Doesn't matter how rich you SAY you are. Only dumbasses like to waste money.
i never say im rich, im ONLY middle low level, but maybe naive, i believe people is good you do happy bully others do you? 1. btw how much Rise you say you had?2. you guys should really show how you are being scammed 3. what can you get for making Rise look bad? will that make you satisfied or lose even more? 4. what you should do to make the community grow healthy? Why is it hard to assimilate that there are not one factor but multiple factors (a long list) that makes it look like a scam and which act like a scam ? This does not make it an absolute scam, but we are certainly not in a legit project so far. Very far from that according to the ongoing Rise shits, and that long list. Naturally, people are unhappy. Shouldn't they be ? Give a reason why then.
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November 20, 2016, 09:00:26 PM |
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If you like to throw money away then you're an idiot. That's all there is to it. Doesn't matter how rich you SAY you are. Only dumbasses like to waste money.
i never say im rich, im ONLY middle low level, but maybe naive, i believe people is good you do happy bully others do you? 1. btw how much Rise you say you had?2. you guys should really show how you are being scammed 3. what can you get for making Rise look bad? will that make you satisfied or lose even more? 4. what you should do to make the community grow healthy? Why is it hard to assimilate that there are not one factor but multiple factors (a long list) that makes it look like a scam and which act like a scam ? This does not make it an absolute scam, but we are certainly not in a legit project so far. Very far from that according to the ongoing Rise shits, and that long list. Naturally, people are unhappy. Shouldn't they be ? Give a reason why then. Love is blind, don't marry your investments.
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November 21, 2016, 04:40:53 AM |
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What? Are you stupid? I have plenty of money. PLENTY. But only a fool likes to throw money away.
we throw money because we can and we afford to throw, it is nothing to my level, i dont have to think so much just like you did, because its not worth plenty to me seems your PLENTY are not on my level, while im only indonesian middle low guy this RISE only need to go to Indonesian market then, any of us indonesian could make Rise high easy so dont have to sacrificing my self alone do bailout for you guys to bail-out, not worthed for me (i dont like dev team in my own reasons, but as long as they are not running, and responsible to what they believe to stay with RISE success as their goal, its worth waiting, success do take times) (and I do LIKE KITCHEN OFFICE, no reason waste unnecessary budget there) (Please deliver progress) I don't think the Indonesian mark invests in fairy dust or do they?
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November 21, 2016, 10:49:53 AM |
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Fun fact: I think that's the new high, probably going to be pumped towards that when the price is 10sat
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November 21, 2016, 11:12:51 AM |
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As i have stated before we are now going to sue the RISE team for fraud and abstraction of funds. I will keep you updated on the process..
Interesting idea, but how do you want to execute this procedure? Have you consulted with an attorney-at-law? Do you think that we can expect any refund from the result of legal procedure? (Which will go on for years based on my experience.)
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November 21, 2016, 11:39:44 AM Last edit: November 21, 2016, 03:08:53 PM by Admiral_Bit |
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As i have stated before we are now going to sue the RISE team for fraud and abstraction of funds. I will keep you updated on the process..
Interesting idea, but how do you want to execute this procedure? Have you consulted with an attorney-at-law? Do you think that we can expect any refund from the result of legal procedure? (Which will go on for years based on my experience.) Yes, i have contacted a Portland based law agency which has proven to be familiar with digital assets. We will present our case from two angles: 1. It is our understanding, that the initial coin offering has violated applicable transparency laws as stated by FDIC Regulation act 6500 (See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg15239823#msg15239823 for further details): § 1005.4 General disclosure requirements; jointly offered services.
(a)(1) Form of disclosures. Disclosures required under this part shall be clear and readily understandable, in writing, and in a form the consumer may keep, except as otherwise provided in this part. The disclosures required by this part may be provided to the consumer in electronic form, subject to compliance with the consumer-consent and other applicable provisions of the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (E-Sign Act) (15 U.S.C. 7001 et seq.). A financial institution may use commonly accepted or readily understandable abbreviations in complying with the disclosure requirements of this part.
2. It is our understanding, that all major changes on the RISE implementation timeline are subject to the coin holders approval. Since RISE has confirmed, that they are unable to proceed with the objectives presented before the start of the crowd sale we are not going to accept an implementation based on a revised whitepaper. Actually we also got a third angle which will not be disclosed just yet since it might be compromised by further actions of the RISE team. Depending on in- or outside court settlement i expect to lose about 50 percent of my investment to cover legal fees. Would be a lot easier if more people would join in, since we could go class action and i wouldnt have to cover for legal fees upfront...
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November 21, 2016, 11:46:50 AM |
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Quick everyone. Send BTC to Admiral Bit to support his cause. NOT! Saw this coming from a mile away. Nice try... Not getting my btc. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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November 21, 2016, 11:52:58 AM Last edit: November 21, 2016, 12:07:03 PM by Admiral_Bit |
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Quick everyone. Send BTC to Admiral Bit to support his cause. NOT! Saw this coming from a mile away. Nice try... Not getting my btc. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I am not asking for your BTC and i never will. If anyone is really interested in joining the case i will forward the contact details of my attorney. He will accept old fashioned $... Dont send me any BTC, this is not a call for donations...
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November 21, 2016, 05:25:17 PM |
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Nice Guys. Great to see initiative. Pictures also look more professional.
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November 21, 2016, 05:31:31 PM |
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Quick everyone. Send BTC to Admiral Bit to support his cause. NOT! Saw this coming from a mile away. Nice try... Not getting my btc. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I am not asking for your BTC and i never will. If anyone is really interested in joining the case i will forward the contact details of my attorney. He will accept old fashioned $... Dont send me any BTC, this is not a call for donations... Can we not pay you money, and after we got our ico full refund-we don't need to pay the team rise coins, they compensate us bitcoin we invested. We will pay the attorney and you, is it ok? I invested a lot, 5% of my investment will tip you, as high as 10%
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November 21, 2016, 06:31:00 PM |
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Quick everyone. Send BTC to Admiral Bit to support his cause. NOT! Saw this coming from a mile away. Nice try... Not getting my btc. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I am not asking for your BTC and i never will. If anyone is really interested in joining the case i will forward the contact details of my attorney. He will accept old fashioned $... Dont send me any BTC, this is not a call for donations... Can we not pay you money, and after we got our ico full refund-we don't need to pay the team rise coins, they compensate us bitcoin we invested. We will pay the attorney and you, is it ok? I invested a lot, 5% of my investment will tip you, as high as 10% This is not going to work... I cannot just sue anyone in your name. Plus, i wont be taking any money from you. You will have to contact my lawyer (or one of your choosing) by yourself.
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November 21, 2016, 06:34:11 PM |
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If you like to throw money away then you're an idiot. That's all there is to it. Doesn't matter how rich you SAY you are. Only dumbasses like to waste money.
i never say im rich, im ONLY middle low level, but maybe naive, i believe people is good you do happy bully others do you? 1. btw how much Rise you say you had?2. you guys should really show how you are being scammed, can you? and when you picture your self as a smart 3. what can you get for making Rise look bad? will that make you satisfied or lose even more?4. what you should do to make the community grow healthy? It's one thing to believe in the good of others. It's another to turn a blind eye when you're being scammed. I don't like to call people scammers, but I don't think that the Rise development team is working hard enough for the community. What happened to the frequent updates by Risegal? How about updates on Slack? A buy wall? And the continuing devaluation? All of those are serious red flags.
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November 21, 2016, 06:44:54 PM |
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Looking forward to joining in the chat. Even though I like the idea of this, you guys really need to post more often here with updates. Thanks
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November 21, 2016, 06:51:20 PM Last edit: November 21, 2016, 07:04:50 PM by Admiral_Bit |
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If you like to throw money away then you're an idiot. That's all there is to it. Doesn't matter how rich you SAY you are. Only dumbasses like to waste money.
i never say im rich, im ONLY middle low level, but maybe naive, i believe people is good you do happy bully others do you? 1. btw how much Rise you say you had?2. you guys should really show how you are being scammed, can you? and when you picture your self as a smart 3. what can you get for making Rise look bad? will that make you satisfied or lose even more?4. what you should do to make the community grow healthy? It's one thing to believe in the good of others. It's another to turn a blind eye when you're being scammed. I don't like to call people scammers, but I don't think that the Rise development team is working hard enough for the community. What happened to the frequent updates by Risegal? How about updates on Slack? A buy wall? And the continuing devaluation? All of those are serious red flags. Well the discussion is not about if we have been scammed but about how much. Some ppl around here say that legal actions should be left out of crypto. This was not just a bad investment, RISE always was a deliberate attempt to scam money out of our pockets. We know that for sure by now; so lets deal with it. The ulterior motives behind an ico scam is the fact that most people who invest in crypto dont want anyone to know about it. I dont have a problem to go public since im paying my taxes...
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