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RISE SMART CONTRACTS

Smart Contracts enable a new era of legal and business dealings
and are arguably one of the hottest features in crypto at the moment.
RISE will support the creation and execution of Smart Contracts on its
blockchain.

Connect your contract to external data sources through REST APIs,
and allow them to execute actions automatically when criteria are met.
Development of Smart Contracts will be handled through a Graphical
User Interface, and will allow for currency transactions, actions via APIs,
and more.



RISE UTILIZATION OF LINUX CONTAINERS


Did you know Rise Dapps are executed using Docker, a Linux Container based system?

Containers isolate applications from each other and the underlying operating system,
while providing a repeatable build process. Communication between Dapps is done through
an internal network. Select the Dapp you want to connect to, and Rise will connect the Dapp
to your Dapp internally, and allow you to communicate with the Rise API.

Upon launching a new Dapp, the Rise Node spins up a new container, and runs your Dapp in
that container. The container can auto-detect the code you are trying to run, identify the
language, and install dependencies.

If you so choose, you can also isolate your Dapp from all others, so that communication is restricted.



HOW TO USE ARISE DAPP


Have you ever wondered exactly how to open and use a Decentralized Rise Application
on your computer or mobile device?

Before we dive into that, let's go over some other details first:

Developers write Dapps in whatever language they want, using language specific SDKs,
with whichever UI framework they want (including Rise UI), or using Rise API endpoints.

Each Dapp runs in its own container on a Rise Node, which reduces much of the potential
attack surface for malicious actors. We described and explained the use of containers here
a couple of days ago.  Each Dapp Container is connected internally to the Rise API endpoint,
so API calls to Rise are all done internally to the Rise Node, instead of using the public Internet
to send API requests.

The API includes a request/reponse mode, and a streaming mode, enabling realtime updates
to Dapps from the Rise Node, and the Rise Node from the Dapps.

Now to answer the question we started with:

To open a Rise Dapp , you simply enter a URL in the following format:
https://dapp.<nodeName>.rise.vision/<dapp_id/username>


RISE NODE MONETIZATION

Rise Resource Billing System Explained

Rise Node owners will be able to monetize the hosting of Dapps on their Nodes
using the Rise Resource Billing System. This system will be built into the
Rise Dapp Store and allows billing for the use of system resources by Dapps
hosted on the Rise Node.

Resources that can be billed for are:

1) CPU
2) RAM
3) Storage
4) Network I/O

What is billed for, and how much, is determined completely by the Node Owner.
Any Dapp registered on the Rise network will be available for Node Owners to use
on their own Nodes.

Invoicing will be done in Rise, and automation will be available. If invoices aren't
paid, automatic shut-downs, and deletion is possible. This is all customizable by
the Node owner.

thanks for this above, its a good info and tutorial, slowly i learn  about blockchain and etc

RISE DAPP CONSENSUS

Each Rise Dapp has its own unique private side chain which operates in synchronization with
the Rise block time and current block height.

Dapp sidechains are managed by a group of up to 101 master nodes, each of which have block
generation enabled specifically for an individual dapp. The primary role of each master node is
to process transactions and signify the validity of each block generated on the sidechain.

The signing of blocks by a master node against a given dapp is restricted by the dapp owners.
Dapp owners approve individual Rise accounts as master nodes, which then are allowed to forge
on the Dapp’s side chain.

Sidechain consensus is maintained among the 101 master nodes using the same Delegated
Proof-of-Stake (DPOS) method used to secure the Rise blockchain. This allows individual master
nodes to collect fees from each transaction as reward for securing the dapp's side chain.

The motivations behind this form of consensus are:

1) to prevent unnecessary enlargement of the Rise blockchain
2) to retain individual sidechain autonomy
3) to ensure that the integrity of each side chain is constantly upheld




In previous posts we have discussed Dapp Development, Computation (Resource Billing System) & Dapp Consensus.
Today we're going to look more closely at Master Nodes and Dapp Storage. But before we do,
let's recap what we understand a Rise Dapp to be:

A Rise Dapp is a decentralized application that utilizes the Rise SDK and runs in a container on a Rise Node.
It works with the Rise Node using the Rise consensus algorithm. With current web technologies (HTML5/CSS3/JavaScript)
the developer is able to create a powerful UI.
Dapps can use any technology that runs on Linux in their development of the server side of the application.
Regular users can launch the Dapps on any Rise Client.

Dapp Master Nodes

Dapp master nodes are Rise nodes with an installed Dapp and with block generation enabled specifically for that Dapp.
Dapp owners need to approve individual Rise accounts to be permitted to be a master node.
The nodes process transactions and generate new blocks which are then secured by the Rise Blockchain,
making them the core of the dapp system.

Dapp Storage

Dapp storage is handled by git repositories. When a Dapp is registered with the main network,
it's master branch on the git repository is used whenever the Dapp is installed.
Web hooks are available to push changes to all Rise Nodes that have the Dapps installed.

File Storage can be handled with local storage in the container utilizing docker volumes,
or can use file storage systems on the web served by cloud providers.




For latest info on Rise:

- Official Rise forum: http://forum.rise.vision
- Rise Slack channel: http://slack.rise.vision
- Upcoming new website with Rise 2.0 content (in progress)
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whats the real use of RISE? I mean you can use BTC to buy things....what is RISE  for....does it has any purpose?

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February 08, 2017, 09:38:45 PM
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whats the real use of RISE? I mean you can use BTC to buy things....what is RISE  for....does it has any purpose?

and what is the real use for being Fudder in here?  Grin

i was discussing with McVenture few moments ago, about community togetherness in a ultimate project, and i really love it
(jumpstarting the community in something useful and regulated by the foundation it self)

the usage case of Rise is limitless, since the Rise Userfriendly UI, can be drag n drop, and multi programming language
every newbie in every country could experiment with their creativity in free
(for that, i just hope the releasing app fee is affordable to developing country, not just western market)
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February 08, 2017, 09:47:06 PM
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whats the real use of RISE? I mean you can use BTC to buy things....what is RISE  for....does it has any purpose?

dont you realize there is 480 pages in this thread, this is one of the most observed cryptocoin available, Rise could rise again someday

some people have the high hopes, and staying
some people hoping this to be a fraud, but failed because the dev is still here
some fud only have limited funding and hoping to get rich by buying extra low, and do anything necessary to make others sell at the low
some are trying to scam others by the looking there is so many people in this thread
some are hoping multi programming is really possible in blockchain
many more

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February 08, 2017, 09:48:19 PM
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I had been support your coin ,but I think you are too lazy to develpot the project.

Absolutely. No developement here. I am happy that sold my coins in the beginning.




Is this serious?They are going to do the coding using a laptop? shame on you!

then did a silly video showing a big office with the same two developers on it lol


then their main video is no working in the first page is not working

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZqS5lc-Qg&feature=youtu.be&t=5m40s

Then they do a ridiculous video showing a new video coming in a big car with a nice coat and as soon he comes into the office he has a servant waiting to take his coat off, and then show a big office empty with not body in bit only the same two guys that were sitting in the kitchen table.  Guys I sold my coins long time ago, I warn you!

Yuo spent $140k and achieved nothing, now we'll start from scratch and build a whole new code base and develop it from the ground up. LOL after you did an ICO for a better improvment of LISK that I called deceiving....do and ICO for somethig else later

This is comical. They practically took your $140k and did absolutely nothing.

As expected, waiting for the big news that they are making something no one else has....wait for it...

We should have never joint the ico and funded in RISE, the biggest loss of my 2016 investment, I hate RISE and they do nothing job, it is unbelievable they don't do things and keep lying. They are blowing the btc fund.

God damn RİSE and i hate the fake developers in the picture too btw. İm sure that the fat guy only buys mountain dew with the ico money. Scammer devs stole the btc and do nothing. NEW CODE BASE HAHAH Smiley
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February 08, 2017, 09:59:13 PM
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Even though some of them have absolutely nothing useful to say, I'm still happy to see new names in this thread.
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February 08, 2017, 10:01:09 PM
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I had been support your coin ,but I think you are too lazy to develpot the project.

Absolutely. No developement here. I am happy that sold my coins in the beginning.




Is this serious?They are going to do the coding using a laptop? shame on you!

then did a silly video showing a big office with the same two developers on it lol


then their main video is no working in the first page is not working

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZqS5lc-Qg&feature=youtu.be&t=5m40s

Then they do a ridiculous video showing a new video coming in a big car with a nice coat and as soon he comes into the office he has a servant waiting to take his coat off, and then show a big office empty with not body in bit only the same two guys that were sitting in the kitchen table.  Guys I sold my coins long time ago, I warn you!

Yuo spent $140k and achieved nothing, now we'll start from scratch and build a whole new code base and develop it from the ground up. LOL after you did an ICO for a better improvment of LISK that I called deceiving....do and ICO for somethig else later

This is comical. They practically took your $140k and did absolutely nothing.

As expected, waiting for the big news that they are making something no one else has....wait for it...

We should have never joint the ico and funded in RISE, the biggest loss of my 2016 investment, I hate RISE and they do nothing job, it is unbelievable they don't do things and keep lying. They are blowing the btc fund.

God damn RİSE and i hate the fake developers in the picture too btw. İm sure that the fat guy only buys mountain dew with the ico money. Scammer devs stole the btc and do nothing. NEW CODE BASE HAHAH Smiley

Is this picture legit? It is not a very wise decision to post something like that. That picture will only provide negative outcome for the investors of this coin.
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February 08, 2017, 10:31:42 PM
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kitchen table, oh my, its the end of the world. nothing could ever come out of that. lol
would someones garage have instilled more confidence
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February 09, 2017, 01:18:23 AM
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i love kitchen office, its not wasting funding, you guys ask to much

there is never end to fudder,
when dev team is doing cost savings using kitchen, fudder complaining about back-pain about the working chair, now they had to rent costly office
when dev team using low cost green car, you laught at them, so they had to use costly car

i think MOST OF FUDDER ARE LOOSER, staying at home all day and staring at the screen making bad comment
none of you ever doing successful business, never know that we need to use funds wisely on anything necessity

i start my business from home/my room too, we dont need fancy office, dont need lots of professional worker/dev that so expensive if all the END RESULT is the same
we are not multi-billion dollar industry, none of us here is ever in the multi-billion something
if we are, then 90% we might not spent our time grunting in forum, need to admit only boring looser doing that..

complaining about how and what they drink, what PC they use
COME ON GUYS, you guys a child do you? no need high tech PC to do coding, this is not 3D rendering.. , and you're not their mother
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February 09, 2017, 01:33:47 AM
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i love kitchen office, its not wasting funding, you guys ask to much

there is never end to fudder,
when dev team is doing cost savings using kitchen, fudder complaining about back-pain about the working chair, now they had to rent costly office
when dev team using low cost green car, you laught at them, so they had to use costly car

i think MOST OF FUDDER ARE LOOSER, staying at home all day and staring at the screen making bad comment
none of you ever doing successful business, never know that we need to use funds wisely on anything necessity

i start my business from home/my room too, we dont need fancy office, dont need lots of professional worker/dev that so expensive if all the END RESULT is the same
we are not multi-billion dollar industry, none of us here is ever in the multi-billion something
if we are, then 90% we might not spent our time grunting in forum, need to admit only boring looser doing that..

complaining about how and what they drink, what PC they use
COME ON GUYS, you guys a child do you? no need high tech PC to do coding, this is not 3D rendering.. , and you're not their mother

But what did they bring? I remember my damaged bitcoin investment, miserable memory, it is a standard scam, they published identities, so they pretend to be innocent, you are naive.
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February 09, 2017, 01:48:56 AM
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i love kitchen office, its not wasting funding, you guys ask to much

there is never end to fudder,
when dev team is doing cost savings using kitchen, fudder complaining about back-pain about the working chair, now they had to rent costly office
when dev team using low cost green car, you laught at them, so they had to use costly car

i think MOST OF FUDDER ARE LOOSER, staying at home all day and staring at the screen making bad comment
none of you ever doing successful business, never know that we need to use funds wisely on anything necessity

i start my business from home/my room too, we dont need fancy office, dont need lots of professional worker/dev that so expensive if all the END RESULT is the same
we are not multi-billion dollar industry, none of us here is ever in the multi-billion something
if we are, then 90% we might not spent our time grunting in forum, need to admit only boring looser doing that..

complaining about how and what they drink, what PC they use
COME ON GUYS, you guys a child do you? no need high tech PC to do coding, this is not 3D rendering.. , and you're not their mother

saving money by working in a kitchen...yet they pay themselves oh I mean Do panic consulting what was it last time? 130k?

I know you're frustration and sorry if you lost alot in this shit show, it happened to all of us.

Trust me people defend coins like this all the time and it they always turn out to be scams, don't be one of those guys. Their spending shitloads of cash from the ICO with absolutely nothing to show for.

What bothered me even more is that Shell company "Do not panic" consulting own by them and laundering shitloads of cash from the ICO into it.

I'll come back to this thread in 6 months, guaranteed they'll have laundered more then 50% of the cash and nothing developed but feeding the mass more bullshit.
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February 09, 2017, 05:07:15 PM
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Dapp Deposits / Withdrawals

Explaining the flow of crypto-currency within decentralized applications:

Developers can use either Rise or BTC in their dapps. Users of a dapp may deposit
or withdraw funds from any given dapp. When Rise or BTC are sent to a dapp address,
the funds appear in the dapp account. The funds will then become available for use
within the dapp. This works the same way for BTC deposits as it does with Rise.
BTC is sent to a special dapp address and then appears in the dapp Bitcoin wallet.

Dapp accounts are a special type of account created by the network automatically
for a dapp. All deposited Rise or BTC will be stored in the associated addresses.
For security reasons, only the use of multi-signature dapp accounts with trusted
signers is allowed.

Withdrawals from dapps are processed by master nodes. When a withdrawal request
is sent, the dapp master node processes it and moves the funds to the specified
withdrawal address in the Rise or Bitcoin blockchain.



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February 09, 2017, 05:09:19 PM
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Any update to when we can see some product?
Like a timeline? Sometime this year I hope

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February 09, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
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Any update to when we can see some product?
Like a timeline? Sometime this year I hope

I would like to know as well when will be the next update for this coin. I tried accessing their website but it is still down as of the moment. Do they have timeline that they need to address?
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February 09, 2017, 09:10:37 PM
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Any update to when we can see some product?
Like a timeline? Sometime this year I hope

I would like to know as well when will be the next update for this coin. I tried accessing their website but it is still down as of the moment. Do they have timeline that they need to address?

For latest info on Rise:

- Official Rise forum: http://forum.rise.vision
- Rise Slack channel: http://slack.rise.vision
- Upcoming new website with Rise 2.0 content (in progress, current website https://rise.vision/)
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But what did they bring? I remember my damaged bitcoin investment, miserable memory, it is a standard scam, they published identities, so they pretend to be innocent, you are naive.

by publishing identities, they can be found, and can be reported to interpol/embassy, IF they are really doing the crime as you accuse


saving money by working in a kitchen...yet they pay themselves oh I mean Do panic consulting what was it last time? 130k?

I know you're frustration and sorry if you lost alot in this shit show, it happened to all of us.

Trust me people defend coins like this all the time and it they always turn out to be scams, don't be one of those guys. Their spending shitloads of cash from the ICO with absolutely nothing to show for.

What bothered me even more is that Shell company "Do not panic" consulting own by them and laundering shitloads of cash from the ICO into it.

I'll come back to this thread in 6 months, guaranteed they'll have laundered more then 50% of the cash and nothing developed but feeding the mass more bullshit.

laundry the funding to dont panic? hmm i think the worry not yet proven and we should support them to deliver,
in the past expenses might because the initial setup usually costly, first time usually heavy

i dont know what method the dev use, but there is 3types of incentive can be done,
which is per/project or per/salary basis, or middle in both small salary/with bigger incentive

if you see other coins foundations, they all are starting to do the same as done by Dont Panic consulting
(NXT ARDOR IGNIS appoint JELURIDA its own core dev; LISK also outsource to Philliphine Community, bitcoin also have, but i forgot)

because as a non-profit its difficult to just outsouce to and external IT to do the job they envisioned,
to appoint the founder/initiator to be Responsible to his own project which we already funding in, is a good alternative too,
IF the plan is honest (Jelurida of NXT also selling blockchain service, to decrease/cut cost of the coin development, i believe Dont Panic Consulting are doing the same)
because now they must know what they are doing to grow and expand the project, in their visions
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Can Blockjack be copied on this blockchain? Must be nice, playing with a lower fee.
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Where did the Slack go?
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Rise Slack channel does not work.
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February 10, 2017, 01:42:18 PM
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Rise Slack channel does not work.

Where did the Slack go?

Hi @cold_nebula and @RoftheN, I'm logged into Slack and it is working. Can you describe the issue you're experiencing in more detail?

If you are referring to the Slack Signup Page, it is being worked on and should be back online soon.

Meanwhile if you need an invite please send me a direct message and I'll send you one. Thanks!




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