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[kellendil]

Why are you still calling him dev? He is not even a "dev".
Just some guy who fork lisk to get your money. Forget this shitcoin and move on guys.

I dunno man. As long as I get response this project is alive to me... The 1 million USD remaining development fund offers a lot of potential. That is if it is going to be spent wisely...

Off course it is, outsourcing everything to a fake shell company "Don't panic consulting" owned by Jared.

It's not alive, wait till the cash runs out. Everything will disappear into thin air. Their pretty much moving 20-30k per month into Don't panic consulting.

Exactly.

All they are doing now is trying to cover their ass a little bit, by posting useless shits, excuses etc.
They will end up with nothing to show, find excuses.


Create new icos and repeat.

Basically, just do little stuff, to avoid legals problems from their "investors".

It's Alty, it can't be different.

I really wish to be proven wrong tho. Deep in my soul.

I dunno man. These guys don't look like criminals to me. I honestly believe they are doing their best. I know they are moving at a slow pace, but so are many other projects. They should just interact a little bit more with their community.

But I agree that if in the end no results are realized and the dev fund is 90%-95% paid to DPC the donators should pursue legal actions. But atm this is way to early to conclude in my opinion. This ain't easy stuff to program. I will give it another 6 tot 9 months to see development results, but in the meanwhile i would like to see some PR efforts to connect with the community. But they said they are working on this.

Yea, that picture looks like "it's not set up at all".

The 3 guys looking over their screen, all smiling, in a kitchen.

Yea, that's a picture that proves honesty here (not).

Bet, they all are watching Porn on that pic. (Some porno wallets full of things that they now own, and rise investors won't)

"Don't Panic Tho !"

shouldipanicsell.com ? shouldipanicbuy.com ? shouldipanicbuy-shouldipanicsell.com ?

Who would have ever guessed...

Using a fake shell company to launder the İCO money ... goddamn scammers and thieves. İ hope you suffocate in your own shit and die a horrible death. İ wish nothing but the bad for you from the bottom of my heart

FUCK the fat mountain dew guy, FUCK the one eyed guy and FUCK the smiling retard.

Not even one of those fuckers answer here at the thread. İ remember when all of these scamming assholes were active while they collected the money and scammed us.

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[stereotype]

Do something different and revolutionary. Return whats left of the funds.

Pointless energy being expended here.....including this post! 

[seektree]

McVenture - can we get a little insight here.  lots of FUD, for obvious reasons - can we get a roadmap or something or everyone is going to dump again.  i am trying to care about rise but you guys are not great with the communication thing.  maybe update twitter ?  let investors know what is going on please. thanks

[UnknownEye]

McVenture - can we get a little insight here.  lots of FUD, for obvious reasons - can we get a roadmap or something or everyone is going to dump again.  i am trying to care about rise but you guys are not great with the communication thing.  maybe update twitter ?  let investors know what is going on please. thanks

why would they be good with communication when they already have the funds and they have been liquidated? mission successful for them isnt it?

[seektree]

McVenture - can we get a little insight here.  lots of FUD, for obvious reasons - can we get a roadmap or something or everyone is going to dump again.  i am trying to care about rise but you guys are not great with the communication thing.  maybe update twitter ?  let investors know what is going on please. thanks

why would they be good with communication when they already have the funds and they have been liquidated? mission successful for them isnt it?

i guess you could say that?  hopefully they want to be successful and not ruin chances of their future.  money runs out quick when you cant make any because you scammed people. 

[UnknownEye]

McVenture - can we get a little insight here.  lots of FUD, for obvious reasons - can we get a roadmap or something or everyone is going to dump again.  i am trying to care about rise but you guys are not great with the communication thing.  maybe update twitter ?  let investors know what is going on please. thanks

why would they be good with communication when they already have the funds and they have been liquidated? mission successful for them isnt it?

i guess you could say that?  hopefully they want to be successful and not ruin chances of their future.  money runs out quick when you cant make any because you scammed people. 

you see it all the time on ico's the devs are constantly there communicating with people during the sale and then after they're gone and very rarely around. Probably busy spending money.

[electronicash]

Announcement

I'm sorry about saying that but until further notice i'll be stoping Rise Desktop Wallet Development.

Sounds a very bad news to me, who will continue with the development?

to me it looks like they could just ignore us all and simply move on with their lives separately. you won't be going to their area and sue them would you? but yes here they are.  it appears they are better than those who did a successful ICO but not distributing the tokens such as ARK, Decent and tokes.  and possibly chronobank's time token.

[seektree]

Announcement

I'm sorry about saying that but until further notice i'll be stoping Rise Desktop Wallet Development.

Sounds a very bad news to me, who will continue with the development?

to me it looks like they could just ignore us all and simply move on with their lives separately. you won't be going to their area and sue them would you? but yes here they are.  it appears they are better than those who did a successful ICO but not distributing the tokens such as ARK, Decent and tokes.  and possibly chronobank's time token.

i wouldnt sue them, no - but I also only invested 1btc.  i sold for a loss of about .3 btc and recently bought .5 btc back just to have in alt bag.  prob a bad idea, but i have a little faith.  if not, oh well.  and as far as those other ICO's, they are not distributing the tokens?  explain?  I invested in chronobank, again just 1 btc but seems like everything should be starting on 25th & 26th for token distribution? 

[kellendil]

Announcement

I'm sorry about saying that but until further notice i'll be stoping Rise Desktop Wallet Development.

Sounds a very bad news to me, who will continue with the development?

to me it looks like they could just ignore us all and simply move on with their lives separately. you won't be going to their area and sue them would you? but yes here they are.  it appears they are better than those who did a successful ICO but not distributing the tokens such as ARK, Decent and tokes.  and possibly chronobank's time token.

Token distribution is the easiest part everybody can do that. Developing something is the hard part and rise could not achieve that..

[electronicash]

Announcement

I'm sorry about saying that but until further notice i'll be stoping Rise Desktop Wallet Development.

Sounds a very bad news to me, who will continue with the development?

to me it looks like they could just ignore us all and simply move on with their lives separately. you won't be going to their area and sue them would you? but yes here they are.  it appears they are better than those who did a successful ICO but not distributing the tokens such as ARK, Decent and tokes.  and possibly chronobank's time token.

Token distribution is the easiest part everybody can do that. Developing something is the hard part and rise could not achieve that..

true. but the reason why those team hasn't distribute too is because they haven't develop anything too even just the blockchain. which would you prefer, a token not given to you or a token already distributed and and a team trying to come up with what they have. either way you still have to wait. the difference is that you can dump your rise while you can't dump those arks, decent and tokes because you don't have them at all.

[McVenture]

McVenture - can we get a little insight here.  lots of FUD, for obvious reasons - can we get a roadmap or something or everyone is going to dump again.  i am trying to care about rise but you guys are not great with the communication thing.  maybe update twitter ?  let investors know what is going on please. thanks

Hi Seektree, all the info available to me has already been released through the post of Scifi.rem (Rise co-founder) earlier this week, see below. Since then there hasn't been anything new to announce yet. The team is busy finding a new developer to replace Justin/Richard/Nathan (Don't Panic Consulting). This has the highest priority. Only after we have a new developer/dev team saddled up a new roadmap can be devised. As soon as more info comes available it will be posted here. Thanks.

Development Update:

We have a fairly big announcement. We are in the process of restoring investor confidence and part of that process is to reward our current Rise token holders, as well as getting delegates forging as soon as possible. Even though we are currently on this path, it’s only fair to mention that we had hit a bumpy road.  

Previously, we have been pulling teeth, trying to get updates from our development team. It had gotten to a point where we were instructed to formulate emails as the “method” to reach them. Days had turned into weeks and even after many promises of daily updates, we still didn’t see progress. Many of you guys had stressed your concern as well.

We were then told by Justin that his development team needed more funds to continue the project. After close examination, and to prevent our funds from becoming more depleted with little to show for it, we discontinued funds to Don’t Panic (Justin’s business). As a result, Don’t Panic including our co-founder Justin walked away from the project.

However, we have acted quickly and are working with another developer right now. We will let everyone know who this is in an upcoming announcement. All Rise 2.0 work so far has been transferred to our new developer. Before we move further on that, we have decided that we will push out Rise Classic by cloning Lisk to get delegates forging and earning rewards ASAP.

We had relied on Justin’s promises that Rise 2.0 code base was going to be “easy enough” for him and we counted on his insight, such as promising a working prototype by December. It was moved to January, and then to February. And nothing came to fruition. “More funds” was never part of our original agreement with him.

So we have decided to move quickly and get Lisk cloned and delegates forging (Rise Classic) while Rise 2.0 is looked at by our hired new developers. We don’t want to waste any more time on this. In addition, we will be rewarding our token holders by providing them with Chipz which is explained below.

We are in negotiations with an online casino software supplier with the aim to launch a fully operational online gaming platform that will operate using Chipz tokens as the currency. Rise holders will receive Chipz tokens based on their holdings. The value of Chipz will be determined by the free market as soon as it hits an exchange. In order to use the casino players will be required to purchase Chipz tokens... Chipz will be available for purchase direct from the casino converted at the current market price or from an exchange. As soon as fiat gateways are available on the Waves network the casino will begin accepting fiat tokens that can be used to instantly purchase chipz for use in the casino.

More details to be revealed as we advance the Chipz project.

McVenture and myself will check in regularly this week here at the forums to make sure we answer any questions you guys have. Thanks. And let’s get this project rockin’. Good things to come!

Rem

[kellendil]

Announcement

I'm sorry about saying that but until further notice i'll be stoping Rise Desktop Wallet Development.

Sounds a very bad news to me, who will continue with the development?

to me it looks like they could just ignore us all and simply move on with their lives separately. you won't be going to their area and sue them would you? but yes here they are.  it appears they are better than those who did a successful ICO but not distributing the tokens such as ARK, Decent and tokes.  and possibly chronobank's time token.

Token distribution is the easiest part everybody can do that. Developing something is the hard part and rise could not achieve that..

true. but the reason why those team hasn't distribute too is because they haven't develop anything too even just the blockchain. which would you prefer, a token not given to you or a token already distributed and and a team trying to come up with what they have. either way you still have to wait. the difference is that you can dump your rise while you can't dump those arks, decent and tokes because you don't have them at all.

You are right too İ have enough of these scam icos damn.. But DECENT isnt one of them in my opinion they have a legit team and it looks like they will do great things. We just need to wait.

[kellendil]

McVenture - can we get a little insight here.  lots of FUD, for obvious reasons - can we get a roadmap or something or everyone is going to dump again.  i am trying to care about rise but you guys are not great with the communication thing.  maybe update twitter ?  let investors know what is going on please. thanks

Hi Seektree, all the info available to me has already been released through the post of Scifi.rem (Rise co-founder) earlier this week, see below. Since then there hasn't been anything new to announce yet. The team is busy finding a new developer to replace Justin/Richard/Nathan (Don't Panic Consulting). This has the highest priority. Only after we have a new developer/dev team saddled up a new roadmap can be devised. As soon as more info comes available it will be posted here. Thanks.

Development Update:

We have a fairly big announcement. We are in the process of restoring investor confidence and part of that process is to reward our current Rise token holders, as well as getting delegates forging as soon as possible. Even though we are currently on this path, it’s only fair to mention that we had hit a bumpy road.  

Previously, we have been pulling teeth, trying to get updates from our development team. It had gotten to a point where we were instructed to formulate emails as the “method” to reach them. Days had turned into weeks and even after many promises of daily updates, we still didn’t see progress. Many of you guys had stressed your concern as well.

We were then told by Justin that his development team needed more funds to continue the project. After close examination, and to prevent our funds from becoming more depleted with little to show for it, we discontinued funds to Don’t Panic (Justin’s business). As a result, Don’t Panic including our co-founder Justin walked away from the project.

However, we have acted quickly and are working with another developer right now. We will let everyone know who this is in an upcoming announcement. All Rise 2.0 work so far has been transferred to our new developer. Before we move further on that, we have decided that we will push out Rise Classic by cloning Lisk to get delegates forging and earning rewards ASAP.

We had relied on Justin’s promises that Rise 2.0 code base was going to be “easy enough” for him and we counted on his insight, such as promising a working prototype by December. It was moved to January, and then to February. And nothing came to fruition. “More funds” was never part of our original agreement with him.

So we have decided to move quickly and get Lisk cloned and delegates forging (Rise Classic) while Rise 2.0 is looked at by our hired new developers. We don’t want to waste any more time on this. In addition, we will be rewarding our token holders by providing them with Chipz which is explained below.

We are in negotiations with an online casino software supplier with the aim to launch a fully operational online gaming platform that will operate using Chipz tokens as the currency. Rise holders will receive Chipz tokens based on their holdings. The value of Chipz will be determined by the free market as soon as it hits an exchange. In order to use the casino players will be required to purchase Chipz tokens... Chipz will be available for purchase direct from the casino converted at the current market price or from an exchange. As soon as fiat gateways are available on the Waves network the casino will begin accepting fiat tokens that can be used to instantly purchase chipz for use in the casino.

More details to be revealed as we advance the Chipz project.

McVenture and myself will check in regularly this week here at the forums to make sure we answer any questions you guys have. Thanks. And let’s get this project rockin’. Good things to come!

Rem

One question, did you guys dump the dev premine too at bittrex ? Or is it still there ?

[valta4065]

McVenture - can we get a little insight here.  lots of FUD, for obvious reasons - can we get a roadmap or something or everyone is going to dump again.  i am trying to care about rise but you guys are not great with the communication thing.  maybe update twitter ?  let investors know what is going on please. thanks

Hi Seektree, all the info available to me has already been released through the post of Scifi.rem (Rise co-founder) earlier this week, see below. Since then there hasn't been anything new to announce yet. The team is busy finding a new developer to replace Justin/Richard/Nathan (Don't Panic Consulting). This has the highest priority. Only after we have a new developer/dev team saddled up a new roadmap can be devised. As soon as more info comes available it will be posted here. Thanks.

Development Update:

We have a fairly big announcement. We are in the process of restoring investor confidence and part of that process is to reward our current Rise token holders, as well as getting delegates forging as soon as possible. Even though we are currently on this path, it’s only fair to mention that we had hit a bumpy road.  

Previously, we have been pulling teeth, trying to get updates from our development team. It had gotten to a point where we were instructed to formulate emails as the “method” to reach them. Days had turned into weeks and even after many promises of daily updates, we still didn’t see progress. Many of you guys had stressed your concern as well.

We were then told by Justin that his development team needed more funds to continue the project. After close examination, and to prevent our funds from becoming more depleted with little to show for it, we discontinued funds to Don’t Panic (Justin’s business). As a result, Don’t Panic including our co-founder Justin walked away from the project.

However, we have acted quickly and are working with another developer right now. We will let everyone know who this is in an upcoming announcement. All Rise 2.0 work so far has been transferred to our new developer. Before we move further on that, we have decided that we will push out Rise Classic by cloning Lisk to get delegates forging and earning rewards ASAP.

We had relied on Justin’s promises that Rise 2.0 code base was going to be “easy enough” for him and we counted on his insight, such as promising a working prototype by December. It was moved to January, and then to February. And nothing came to fruition. “More funds” was never part of our original agreement with him.

So we have decided to move quickly and get Lisk cloned and delegates forging (Rise Classic) while Rise 2.0 is looked at by our hired new developers. We don’t want to waste any more time on this. In addition, we will be rewarding our token holders by providing them with Chipz which is explained below.

We are in negotiations with an online casino software supplier with the aim to launch a fully operational online gaming platform that will operate using Chipz tokens as the currency. Rise holders will receive Chipz tokens based on their holdings. The value of Chipz will be determined by the free market as soon as it hits an exchange. In order to use the casino players will be required to purchase Chipz tokens... Chipz will be available for purchase direct from the casino converted at the current market price or from an exchange. As soon as fiat gateways are available on the Waves network the casino will begin accepting fiat tokens that can be used to instantly purchase chipz for use in the casino.

More details to be revealed as we advance the Chipz project.

McVenture and myself will check in regularly this week here at the forums to make sure we answer any questions you guys have. Thanks. And let’s get this project rockin’. Good things to come!

Rem

One question, did you guys dump the dev premine too at bittrex ? Or is it still there ?

Ahahah!
I love the question
"do you guys still believe in your own project or did you already leave?"

[stereotype]

Hi Seektree, all the info available to me has already been released through the post of Scifi.rem (Rise co-founder) earlier this week, see below. Since then there hasn't been anything new to announce yet. The team is busy finding a new developer to replace Justin/Richard/Nathan (Don't Panic Consulting). This has the highest priority. Only after we have a new developer/dev team saddled up a new roadmap can be devised. As soon as more info comes available it will be posted here. Thanks.

So you are effectively sitting there, twiddling your thumbs, with no idea what to do, putting the onus on an unknown person coming in to tell you what to do, hoping that some bits of code might be useful, so you can continue living off money you received for an abandoned project.
Crazy to think any good whatsoever will rise from this, so far down the scraping barrel.
With as much respect as i can muster, for someone who tried but failed like you/Rise......consider giving back the funds that you have failed to use anywhere near effectively (and will continue to), and concentrate on an employed position somewhere that doesn't involve you taking any meaningful decisions. Abject fail.

[smokim87]

Hi Seektree, all the info available to me has already been released through the post of Scifi.rem (Rise co-founder) earlier this week, see below. Since then there hasn't been anything new to announce yet. The team is busy finding a new developer to replace Justin/Richard/Nathan (Don't Panic Consulting). This has the highest priority. Only after we have a new developer/dev team saddled up a new roadmap can be devised. As soon as more info comes available it will be posted here. Thanks.

So you are effectively sitting there, twiddling your thumbs, with no idea what to do, putting the onus on an unknown person coming in to tell you what to do, hoping that some bits of code might be useful, so you can continue living off money you received for an abandoned project.
Crazy to think any good whatsoever will rise from this, so far down the scraping barrel.
With as much respect as i can muster, for someone who tried but failed like you/Rise......consider giving back the funds that you have failed to use anywhere near effectively (and will continue to), and concentrate on an employed position somewhere that doesn't involve you taking any meaningful decisions. Abject fail.

They know exactly what their doing..scamming. Not sure if it's true or not but apparently they scum bags sold all the ICO BTC into fiat...no one is getting anything back I am a 100% sure of it. Why do you think they decided scratch out the rise scam for a new P&D shitcoin (Chipz)?

For people defending this project, ask yourself this...Isn't Alty (Cormac fucking) the project manager...if they weren't scammers the last 8 months would of not been for nothing...John would of got kicked out a week after the ICO.

Pretty sure nothing will happen and these guys will be laughing all the way to the bank with a million bucks...wouldn't be surprised if someone tracks one of these thieves down IRL and gives them a taste of their own medicine.

[Zebedee23]

I agree this is 100%  a fail/scam and funds should be returned!! But then there is the issue that really the ICO investors should receive the £££ and many have sold for a 50-95% loss!!!! anyway thats very unlikely to happen as scammers dont return ££$$!!
while im calling them scammers i still do believe that the original intention was not one of outright theft, even though that is what has happened!

[stereotype]

I agree this is 100%  a fail/scam and funds should be returned!! But then there is the issue that really the ICO investors should receive the £££ and many have sold for a 50-95% loss!!!! anyway thats very unlikely to happen as scammers dont return ££$$!!
while im calling them scammers i still do believe that the original intention was not one of outright theft, even though that is what has happened!

Ive seen it happen only once (TXTcoinsnow, on the NXT AE), a few years ago. It was necassary due to legal issues with an existing bricks n mortar company. Was a nightmare for Bas Wisselink to sort out.

I rarely use the word scammer/scam to describe people. I believe it lets the incompetents off the hook.   

[blocks.explorer]

McVenture - can we get a little insight here.  lots of FUD, for obvious reasons - can we get a roadmap or something or everyone is going to dump again.  i am trying to care about rise but you guys are not great with the communication thing.  maybe update twitter ?  let investors know what is going on please. thanks

Hi Seektree, all the info available to me has already been released through the post of Scifi.rem (Rise co-founder) earlier this week, see below. Since then there hasn't been anything new to announce yet. The team is busy finding a new developer to replace Justin/Richard/Nathan (Don't Panic Consulting). This has the highest priority. Only after we have a new developer/dev team saddled up a new roadmap can be devised. As soon as more info comes available it will be posted here. Thanks.

Development Update:

We have a fairly big announcement. We are in the process of restoring investor confidence and part of that process is to reward our current Rise token holders, as well as getting delegates forging as soon as possible. Even though we are currently on this path, it’s only fair to mention that we had hit a bumpy road.  

Previously, we have been pulling teeth, trying to get updates from our development team. It had gotten to a point where we were instructed to formulate emails as the “method” to reach them. Days had turned into weeks and even after many promises of daily updates, we still didn’t see progress. Many of you guys had stressed your concern as well.

We were then told by Justin that his development team needed more funds to continue the project. After close examination, and to prevent our funds from becoming more depleted with little to show for it, we discontinued funds to Don’t Panic (Justin’s business). As a result, Don’t Panic including our co-founder Justin walked away from the project.

However, we have acted quickly and are working with another developer right now. We will let everyone know who this is in an upcoming announcement. All Rise 2.0 work so far has been transferred to our new developer. Before we move further on that, we have decided that we will push out Rise Classic by cloning Lisk to get delegates forging and earning rewards ASAP.

We had relied on Justin’s promises that Rise 2.0 code base was going to be “easy enough” for him and we counted on his insight, such as promising a working prototype by December. It was moved to January, and then to February. And nothing came to fruition. “More funds” was never part of our original agreement with him.

So we have decided to move quickly and get Lisk cloned and delegates forging (Rise Classic) while Rise 2.0 is looked at by our hired new developers. We don’t want to waste any more time on this. In addition, we will be rewarding our token holders by providing them with Chipz which is explained below.

We are in negotiations with an online casino software supplier with the aim to launch a fully operational online gaming platform that will operate using Chipz tokens as the currency. Rise holders will receive Chipz tokens based on their holdings. The value of Chipz will be determined by the free market as soon as it hits an exchange. In order to use the casino players will be required to purchase Chipz tokens... Chipz will be available for purchase direct from the casino converted at the current market price or from an exchange. As soon as fiat gateways are available on the Waves network the casino will begin accepting fiat tokens that can be used to instantly purchase chipz for use in the casino.

More details to be revealed as we advance the Chipz project.

McVenture and myself will check in regularly this week here at the forums to make sure we answer any questions you guys have. Thanks. And let’s get this project rockin’. Good things to come!

Rem

What about Alty, the project manager? He also left this? Last active November 23, 2016.

So main dev left / got dumped after sucking a lot of the funds. And still nothing to see. What a disaster! Now back to cloning LISK (since delegate forging works for them already) so why not? Lol  

[smokim87]

I agree this is 100%  a fail/scam and funds should be returned!! But then there is the issue that really the ICO investors should receive the £££ and many have sold for a 50-95% loss!!!! anyway thats very unlikely to happen as scammers dont return ££$$!!
while im calling them scammers i still do believe that the original intention was not one of outright theft, even though that is what has happened!

Ive seen it happen only once (TXTcoinsnow, on the NXT AE), a few years ago. It was necassary due to legal issues with an existing bricks n mortar company. Was a nightmare for Bas Wisselink to sort out.

I rarely use the word scammer/scam to describe people. I believe it lets the incompetents off the hook.   

Scammer, thief better term for these guys. Being incompetent makes these guys look honest...in no way these guys were incompetent, I believe this was well planned out and I strongly believe Alty is behind it or getting well paid for his scamming techniques.