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[Hangterisaan]

McVenture - can we get a little insight here.  lots of FUD, for obvious reasons - can we get a roadmap or something or everyone is going to dump again.  i am trying to care about rise but you guys are not great with the communication thing.  maybe update twitter ?  let investors know what is going on please. thanks

Hi Seektree, all the info available to me has already been released through the post of Scifi.rem (Rise co-founder) earlier this week, see below. Since then there hasn't been anything new to announce yet. The team is busy finding a new developer to replace Justin/Richard/Nathan (Don't Panic Consulting). This has the highest priority. Only after we have a new developer/dev team saddled up a new roadmap can be devised. As soon as more info comes available it will be posted here. Thanks.

Development Update:

We have a fairly big announcement. We are in the process of restoring investor confidence and part of that process is to reward our current Rise token holders, as well as getting delegates forging as soon as possible. Even though we are currently on this path, it’s only fair to mention that we had hit a bumpy road.  

Previously, we have been pulling teeth, trying to get updates from our development team. It had gotten to a point where we were instructed to formulate emails as the “method” to reach them. Days had turned into weeks and even after many promises of daily updates, we still didn’t see progress. Many of you guys had stressed your concern as well.

We were then told by Justin that his development team needed more funds to continue the project. After close examination, and to prevent our funds from becoming more depleted with little to show for it, we discontinued funds to Don’t Panic (Justin’s business). As a result, Don’t Panic including our co-founder Justin walked away from the project.

However, we have acted quickly and are working with another developer right now. We will let everyone know who this is in an upcoming announcement. All Rise 2.0 work so far has been transferred to our new developer. Before we move further on that, we have decided that we will push out Rise Classic by cloning Lisk to get delegates forging and earning rewards ASAP.

We had relied on Justin’s promises that Rise 2.0 code base was going to be “easy enough” for him and we counted on his insight, such as promising a working prototype by December. It was moved to January, and then to February. And nothing came to fruition. “More funds” was never part of our original agreement with him.

So we have decided to move quickly and get Lisk cloned and delegates forging (Rise Classic) while Rise 2.0 is looked at by our hired new developers. We don’t want to waste any more time on this. In addition, we will be rewarding our token holders by providing them with Chipz which is explained below.

We are in negotiations with an online casino software supplier with the aim to launch a fully operational online gaming platform that will operate using Chipz tokens as the currency. Rise holders will receive Chipz tokens based on their holdings. The value of Chipz will be determined by the free market as soon as it hits an exchange. In order to use the casino players will be required to purchase Chipz tokens... Chipz will be available for purchase direct from the casino converted at the current market price or from an exchange. As soon as fiat gateways are available on the Waves network the casino will begin accepting fiat tokens that can be used to instantly purchase chipz for use in the casino.

More details to be revealed as we advance the Chipz project.

McVenture and myself will check in regularly this week here at the forums to make sure we answer any questions you guys have. Thanks. And let’s get this project rockin’. Good things to come!

Rem

Sorry guys I don't feel sorry for you, I sold my rise when I saw the 3 jokers in the kitchen table with MAC computers, if you saw this pics and you did not sell your rise its just only you to blame as Rise team was laughing in your own face!!

On the other hand, I know Justin you are hearing! SHAME ON YOU! you deserve to be in jail  but for life for wasting people time and stealing their money...I sold mine at a lost when I saw your pic in the kitchen!

You are a disgrace to society, you run away with the ICO money. No  they can not refund the money as he spent it all, can you see the big kitchen he has is massive....how do you think he paid for that big house? the ICO money....and his big car....did you see his car? well he is having a good life with the ICO money...but Justin we know who you are...and you walk away from this project promising many things, you will never ever be near any crypto project because you are a disgrace! You are a scammer and we know  your face! The face of a deceiver! Please people do not invest a penny on this or anything McVenture wants,,, he has been with Justin for month and he did not tell us the kind of person he was and what he was doing with the money,,,,,please McVenture stop this now if you have any dignity left. You all have been scammed and if you continue on this you are stupid as hell!

" Up my ass!! Return what belong to the community...and do not dare running away with our money! "

What our money? U sold out right from the start. So go sit in a corner to cry and STFU. Since u sold out long ago there will be nothing for u. As a matter of fact, what are u even doing here any longer....

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[seektree]

and why the price of rise is so low?

Because these scammers did not have enough with 2000 K that after the ICO they starting selling lots of rise coin to add them of top of the 2000 K so it would not surprise me these people even have 4000 K BTC,,,if not how is that we all end up with nothing where did all the money gone!

And now they come with this fucking stupid chips shit and goind back again to lisk useless clone.. they are not going to hire anyone to do anything! Bullshit! You are the lowest piece of shit on this planet.  You don't have morals, you are rotten. you laugh at us! And you continue to laugh...you did not have enough scamming us but want to try to continue to scam us even more!

Return now all the 2000 btc and all the btc you made by dumping millions of rise!!!

I understand your frustrations, and honestly those kids look like chumpz and i lost money in the ICO too-  but what they set out to do is not that hard and I believe even forking lisk and building a valuable casino as an asset (not main focus) so that RISE holders can look forward to an asset is a good idea.  i recently saw a casino dapp in the lisk chat that works very well. it will not be hard to build or clone a JS casino that functions and works with rewards for chipz holders?  what will be hard is building a platform as promised from RISE original vision.  honestly, everyone knows you are mad, and so am I but we should turn this thread into something positive and hope for the best.  maybe, just mabye you will get your money back.  acting like a bitch does not help, if you want to take legal action, it will be expensive, prob more than you lost.  RISE may have a future, but even if I can profit and get my money back I will be happy.  keep the updates coming and let us know how to get access to that million rise. thanks

lol. i am down get my money back too. let me know how that goes.  and been grown sun. you are the one wining like a baby.

you don't understand anything, you don't have personality and you are an ass licker of the rise scammers! grow up!

[KidCrypto]

Is anyone opening a lawsuit against this ICO? I'll jump in on the class action. PM me please

Strange my previous reply was removed.

As it is right now I copied their site here:
www.risescammers(.)tk

What needs to be done is the following.
- Gather information on those 3 scammers an combine it. Can be on this site or some other domain.
- A new domain. A .net or .com would be better since it's better indexed
- Assign some people to investigate on a law suit. As stated those guys are located and registered in the US of A. Which mean they can easily held guilty for their actions since they did not intent nor can fulflll on the ICO terms.

- Lastly we should share this site/bitcointalk thread by social media. So no more victims can be made. Both Justin as the other have other companies and which they probably practise the same kind of illegal business.

I'll be gathering as much information as possible about the people who ran the ICO

[sandman53]

RISE PROJECT STATUS

This last week has been very eventful for Rise and has left some people uncertain about
the project status. This post summarizes the details that were released spread out over
a myriad of posts.

• Justin (co-founder and lead developer of Rise) is no longer working on the Rise 2.0 platform,
  including his employees Nathan and Richard. The Rise team was dissatisfied with the lack of progress
  and denied Justin’s demand for more funds to continue developing.
• Rise team is working on solidifying a contract to get Rise cloned to the latest LSK code
• Putting Rise forging into the hands of the community as soon as possible is #1 priority
• Rise 2.0 is not off the table, The ICO promise of adding multi-code language support and
  easy-to-use tools for buildings dapps will still be pursued.
• Rise development funds were temporarily moved to Bittrex. The account was frozen by Bittrex
  as this is their standard security mechanism. The account is being verified in the next few days
  to be unfrozen and the funds will be moved to a permanent Rise wallet address for everyone to see.
  The Rise address will be announced here.
• Rise team is working to reward Rise holders through the Chipz Project. Chipz was announced earlier
  this week and is in the beginning stages. Rise holders will be the beneficiaries of the Chipz airdrop.
  More details will be shared as they become available.
• In a few days from now Rise team will launch a competition for loyal Rise supporters
  with a total prize pot of 1 Million Rise. Stay tuned.

Thanks for the update

[Equalizer1970]

This is really becoming comical (It was already) ...

A few of you top holders who don't want to sell your coins at such a huge lost are trying to generate "Fake" trust in folks who haven't delivered on a single thing they promised.

1. The main site after 8 months still is promoting the ICO

Then after eight months of NOTHING they "Have this BIG ANNOUNCEMENT" that "drum roll please.....

2. The lead developer / CO FOUNDER was for a lack of a better way to describe it, FIRED because he wanted "more cash" that's a convenient reason. How about 8 months of ZERO progress. They really "allowed for 8 MONTHS of nothing before saying..... wooooah somethings wrong here??

3. Now they say "ok our bad we got nothing done". We are going to fork lisk AGAIN (now that their forging is working) and create a "Classic" coin so you guys can "mine" a coin that has at best 10-20 transactions a day that will over inflated the coin's supply for no reason. Not to mention has ZERO purpose at it's initial phase EXCEPT to be forged and dumped.

4. If that's not enough to keep you holding or to get you to buy more of this train wreck, they will also give you the equivalent of what ever you hold in Chipz. OOOOO right ?

Nope !!!!! NOW FOR THE ICING

5. NONE OF THE "FIXES" AS I TYPE THIS ARE BEING DEVELOPED. CHIPZ is still in initial planning stage and they don't even have a deal made yet for a casino.

PLUS DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPER WORKING ON CODE (Looking over it is not the same as "building or fixing")

 

If it took 8 months for them to figure that they needed to change the direction of Rise, how long do you think it will take them to:

1.) Fork Lisk
2.) Create a new classic coin that is added to an exchange
3.) Build a NEW coin just for our benefit (Chipz)
4.) Secure a deal with a casino ( as someone else mention will probably be owned by a "buddy")
5.) Build Rise 2.0 with everything promised in the initial ICO

They couldn't even complete ONE PROJECT and now you want us to trust that they will complete well over 5 different mini projects ??

I will continue to monitor this because hell if by some off chance they do pull this off it could mean some big bucks as the price is tanking lil by lil each day. but Not going to hold my breath as I'm surpised i was able to hold it for the last 8 MONTHS !!!


And to all those involved in this Good luck rebuilding trust as you say you want to.... Only time will tell but you have done zilch with the initial time your received!

+10000

Spot on!  This people deserve to be in jail! For stealing 2000K BTC  lying to all of us to invest in something they knew they could not delivered...They are robbers , Thief, scammers!

If they are US based I would complain to the SEC. This is really looking like a scam now.

[aidia]

Don't Panic & Justin to be added to a long list of ICO scammers who deliver nothing but empty promises.

[aidia]

Just came back to tell you why i left while ago, since i feel bad for investors that are still on denial...

During an ico i saw Donnarumma's old project "Don't panic consulting" and it looked like some abandoned project. Site looked like it had been under construction since forever. Nothing weird there, everyone has some failed projects.. I didn't yet think anything of it... After Rise foundation funded it, site went up and they gave a press release. It's premium content now, but still in a cache:

http://188.125.66.159/search/srpcache?p=%22Eden+Business+Suite%22&type=wncy_iobitfs_16_35&hspart=iry&hsimp=yhs-fullyhosted_003&param1=1&param2=f%3D4%26b%3DFirefox%26cc%3Dfi%26pa%3DWincy%26cd%3D2XzuyEtN2Y1L1QzutCtD0B0FyEzzzzyCtDtD0Dzz0AzytA0FtN0D0Tzu0StCyBtDtAtN1L2XzutAtFtByEtFyCtFzytN1L1Czu1ByEtN1L1G1B1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2StCyCyDyByB0AyC0DtGyCyCyE0BtGzytBtCtDtGyDtB0B0DtGtAyD0E0FyCtCtDyCtD0F0BtB2QtN1M1F1B2Z1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2S0EtByDzztCyEtB0DtG0AtCyD0AtGyE0CtAtAtGzz0B0CzytG0E0EtC0B0A0EtAtA0AyByEtC2QtN0A0LzutB%26cr%3D481595300%26a%3Dwncy_iobitfs_16_35%26os_ver%3D10.0%26os%3DWindows%2B10%2BHome&fr=yhs-iry-fullyhosted_003&ei=UTF-8&u=http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=%22Eden+Business+Suite%22&d=4630457408553538&mkt=fi-FI&setlang=fi-FI&w=o_eX77gX2xE5sAwlpLhXFUR3M_fRkD8y&icp=1&.intl=fi&sig=kjWONah._ZolQEhVk2Cjhw--

Now you would think that when you are funded by a foundation, it would be mentioned in somewhere, that they would be thankful, but nothing...
And if you are thinking that they are "consulting" Rise, maybe check their future plans; Their cloud-based software, which they've named the "Eden Business Suite". Nope, absolutely nothing to do with Rise even though we probably are DP:s only client....
I am guessing that only consulting rise will get is: What should it fund next, like "Rumatec"? I can't even google that, too obscure.. but i saw it in your pic archive Justin.

I am not even going to mention what i was in open facebook page since he decided to close it after/during ico and i can respect that much his privacy.

Ps, your graphic designer for Rise has only draw one pill shape and piled them up. Hopefully he is getting paid enough.


Original logo of don't panic consulting.... hrrr...


Have fun. I am off.

So Justin Donnarumma went to develop his own business with YOUR ico investments, nice lad. I especially liked his video where the guy drives his BMW to a big office with full of empty seats, talkin nonsense for minutes.

[kellendil]

We need to sue these scammers lets gather information about the assholes.

[Admiral_Bit]

We have good legal grounds for a lawsuit. We should concentracte on the ico program which lacked basically all transparency rules when it comes to investments:

- The "Get started" button on the mainpage directly leads you to the rise application form
- After filling out all mandatory fields you can directly login into your account. There is not even an email verification implemented
- On the profiles you will find a button with the label "Invest". The click on the button will return a "BTC investment Address"
- The form part "Your Investement" shows you the label "Invested BTC"
- On the lower part of the page you will find a transaction overview which first column is named "Investor"

Nowhere during the application process i was asked to confirm any terms of use. Nowhere during the application process i was informed that my "Investment" is not refundable. I did not recieve a confirmation mail with the details of my profile setup. At no time during the application process i was forwarded to an information which could have lead me to the conclusion that my investment is actually a donation.

This way we can demand a full return of funds provided during the ico, even if we already sold the rise tokens.

Important
I am asking every Investor to fill out the following form, provided by the SEC:

https://denebleo.sec.gov/TCRExternal/questionaire.xhtml

The form will help the SEC auditing the investment scheme of the RISE ico. If only 10 Investors file a complaint, RISE will have an audit at their hands which might lead to a lockdown of the left funds.

The form is applicable to the following complaints:

•Ponzi scheme, Pyramid Scheme, or a High-Yield Investment Program
•Theft or misappropriation of funds or securities
•Manipulation of a security's price or volume
•Insider trading
•Fraudulent or unregistered securities offering
•False or misleading statements about a company (including false or misleading SEC reports or financial statements)
•Abusive naked short selling
•Bribery of, or improper payments to, foreign officials
•Fraudulent conduct associated with municipal securities transactions or public pension plans
•Other fraudulent conduct

[Porte]

We have good legal grounds for a lawsuit. We should concentracte on the ico program which lacked basically all transparency rules when it comes to investments:

- The "Get started" button on the mainpage directly leads you to the rise application form
- After filling out all mandatory fields you can directly login into your account. There is not even an email verification implemented
- On the profiles you will find a button with the label "Invest". The click on the button will return a "BTC investment Address"
- The form part "Your Investement" shows you the label "Invested BTC"
- On the lower part of the page you will find a transaction overview which first column is named "Investor"

Nowhere during the application process i was asked to confirm any terms of use. Nowhere during the application process i was informed that my "Investment" is not refundable. I did not recieve a confirmation mail with the details of my profile setup. At no time during the application process i was forwarded to an information which could have lead me to the conclusion that my investment is actually a donation.

This way we can demand a full return of funds provided during the ico, even if we already sold the rise tokens.

Important
I am asking every Investor to fill out the following form, provided by the SEC:

https://denebleo.sec.gov/TCRExternal/questionaire.xhtml

The form will help the SEC auditing the investment scheme of the RISE ico. If only 10 Investors file a complaint, RISE will have an audit at their hands which might lead to a lockdown of the left funds.

The form is applicable to the following complaints:

•Ponzi scheme, Pyramid Scheme, or a High-Yield Investment Program
•Theft or misappropriation of funds or securities
•Manipulation of a security's price or volume
•Insider trading
•Fraudulent or unregistered securities offering
•False or misleading statements about a company (including false or misleading SEC reports or financial statements)
•Abusive naked short selling
•Bribery of, or improper payments to, foreign officials
•Fraudulent conduct associated with municipal securities transactions or public pension plans
•Other fraudulent conduct

I totally agree, what I  find disgusting that very few people come here telling us to support the casino and chips and to trust the scammers what make think these people has something to do somehow with the CHIPS or CASINO. These scammers are the most immoral people I ever met and all those coming  here saying ''thanks for the update and supporing the scammers'' are  also scammers! Lets sue all these scams!!

Also please can you provide all the companies Justin scammer is involved? We need to stop  him NOW.

[Zebedee23]

We have good legal grounds for a lawsuit. We should concentracte on the ico program which lacked basically all transparency rules when it comes to investments:

- The "Get started" button on the mainpage directly leads you to the rise application form
- After filling out all mandatory fields you can directly login into your account. There is not even an email verification implemented
- On the profiles you will find a button with the label "Invest". The click on the button will return a "BTC investment Address"
- The form part "Your Investement" shows you the label "Invested BTC"
- On the lower part of the page you will find a transaction overview which first column is named "Investor"

Nowhere during the application process i was asked to confirm any terms of use. Nowhere during the application process i was informed that my "Investment" is not refundable. I did not recieve a confirmation mail with the details of my profile setup. At no time during the application process i was forwarded to an information which could have lead me to the conclusion that my investment is actually a donation.

This way we can demand a full return of funds provided during the ico, even if we already sold the rise tokens.

Important
I am asking every Investor to fill out the following form, provided by the SEC:

https://denebleo.sec.gov/TCRExternal/questionaire.xhtml

The form will help the SEC auditing the investment scheme of the RISE ico. If only 10 Investors file a complaint, RISE will have an audit at their hands which might lead to a lockdown of the left funds.

The form is applicable to the following complaints:

•Ponzi scheme, Pyramid Scheme, or a High-Yield Investment Program
•Theft or misappropriation of funds or securities
•Manipulation of a security's price or volume
•Insider trading
•Fraudulent or unregistered securities offering
•False or misleading statements about a company (including false or misleading SEC reports or financial statements)
•Abusive naked short selling
•Bribery of, or improper payments to, foreign officials
•Fraudulent conduct associated with municipal securities transactions or public pension plans
•Other fraudulent conduct

I totally agree, what I  find disgusting that very few people come here telling us to support the casino and chips and to trust the scammers what make think these people has something to do somehow with the CHIPS or CASINO. These scammers are the most immoral people I ever met and all those coming  here saying ''thanks for the update and supporing the scammers'' are  also scammers! Lets sue all these scams!!

Also please can you provide all the companies Justin scammer is involved? We need to stop  him NOW.

do these '10 investors' need to be citizens of USA???

[Admiral_Bit]

We have good legal grounds for a lawsuit. We should concentracte on the ico program which lacked basically all transparency rules when it comes to investments:

- The "Get started" button on the mainpage directly leads you to the rise application form
- After filling out all mandatory fields you can directly login into your account. There is not even an email verification implemented
- On the profiles you will find a button with the label "Invest". The click on the button will return a "BTC investment Address"
- The form part "Your Investement" shows you the label "Invested BTC"
- On the lower part of the page you will find a transaction overview which first column is named "Investor"

Nowhere during the application process i was asked to confirm any terms of use. Nowhere during the application process i was informed that my "Investment" is not refundable. I did not recieve a confirmation mail with the details of my profile setup. At no time during the application process i was forwarded to an information which could have lead me to the conclusion that my investment is actually a donation.

This way we can demand a full return of funds provided during the ico, even if we already sold the rise tokens.

Important
I am asking every Investor to fill out the following form, provided by the SEC:

https://denebleo.sec.gov/TCRExternal/questionaire.xhtml

The form will help the SEC auditing the investment scheme of the RISE ico. If only 10 Investors file a complaint, RISE will have an audit at their hands which might lead to a lockdown of the left funds.

The form is applicable to the following complaints:

•Ponzi scheme, Pyramid Scheme, or a High-Yield Investment Program
•Theft or misappropriation of funds or securities
•Manipulation of a security's price or volume
•Insider trading
•Fraudulent or unregistered securities offering
•False or misleading statements about a company (including false or misleading SEC reports or financial statements)
•Abusive naked short selling
•Bribery of, or improper payments to, foreign officials
•Fraudulent conduct associated with municipal securities transactions or public pension plans
•Other fraudulent conduct

I totally agree, what I  find disgusting that very few people come here telling us to support the casino and chips and to trust the scammers what make think these people has something to do somehow with the CHIPS or CASINO. These scammers are the most immoral people I ever met and all those coming  here saying ''thanks for the update and supporing the scammers'' are  also scammers! Lets sue all these scams!!

Also please can you provide all the companies Justin scammer is involved? We need to stop  him NOW.

do these '10 investors' need to be citizens of USA???

No; you do not have to be an u.s. citizen in order to file a complaint with the SEC. The company you are dealing with has to do business from or to the u.s. though. Since RISE is U.S. based, they fall under SEC regulation. Im pretty sure, the RISE Team will try to make you believe, that their business is not SEC relevant. Believe me; they are lying. Every business or crowdfunding project falls under the jurisdiction of the SEC. It is the SECs decision to file charges...

[madjihad]

are the rumours true ?
did you move the premine to trex ?

[McVenture]

are the rumours true ?
did you move the premine to trex ?

It's not a rumor. The Rise dev fund is currently in a Bittrex account and being moved to a permanent Rise wallet address for everyone to monitor. Rise address will be published here.

[dolores12]

•Theft or misappropriation of funds or securities   

scammers  took 1700 btc and they feel happy for now.....but payback is coming ....

investors : do not invest in hype scams..... use your brain ...

[Admiral_Bit]

are the rumours true ?
did you move the premine to trex ?

It's not a rumor. The Rise dev fund is currently in a Bittrex account and being moved to a permanent Rise wallet address for everyone to monitor. Rise address will be published here.

McVenture. Can you please provide us with the following Information:

1. Right now; who is in charge of the finances /CFO  at RISE? Please state full name
2. Right now; who is CEO of RISE? Please state full name
2. Please provide us with the postal address / post box of RISE

[Porte]

are the rumours true ?
did you move the premine to trex ?

It's not a rumor. The Rise dev fund is currently in a Bittrex account and being moved to a permanent Rise wallet address for everyone to monitor. Rise address will be published here.

McVenture  see you in court! You will pay for your crimes!

[dolores12]

are the rumours true ?
did you move the premine to trex ?

It's not a rumor. The Rise dev fund is currently in a Bittrex account and being moved to a permanent Rise wallet address for everyone to monitor. Rise address will be published here.

McVenture. Can you please provide us with the following Information:

1. Right now; who is in charge of the finances /CFO  at RISE? Please state full name
2. Right now; who is CEO of RISE? Please state full name
2. Please provide us with the postal address / post box of RISE

just contact bittrex ...they will tell you..a friend took all there info from bittrex

[electronicash]

are the rumours true ?
did you move the premine to trex ?

It's not a rumor. The Rise dev fund is currently in a Bittrex account and being moved to a permanent Rise wallet address for everyone to monitor. Rise address will be published here.

McVenture  see you in court! You will pay for your crimes!

as if there is something an individual can do. the information about them is all there is, you can search the rest of their info on the internet.  thier lawyer will just give you the mumbo jumbo and whatever else they can say which the bottom line is just you handed your money to them. and thats just it. nothing else you can do except listening to them saying "let them do their job."  good luck suing them.

[Maxsumi]

are the rumours true ?
did you move the premine to trex ?

It's not a rumor. The Rise dev fund is currently in a Bittrex account and being moved to a permanent Rise wallet address for everyone to monitor. Rise address will be published here.

Why are you acting that this is normal?
Rise store their own funds on bittrex? Not a own node/wallet?

Everybody knows why you guys stored you coins there... You wanted to dump those bogus coins..

I remember that in the start there was also heavy dumping. Even under the ICO price.. So that were you guys.

Luckily bittrex stores the logs