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Hi worthyou, As a casino owner who has always made it top priority to provide a trusted and safe place for players to play I am tired of seeing players get screwed over time and time again by other Bitcoin casinos. In future I would recommend you play only on provably fair sites that have a solid reputation, proven to be trustworthy and no history of withdrawal issues. There are a few you have been suggested in this thread already and obviously I suggest https://betking.io where we have the highest betting limits, instant withdrawals and proof of funds so you know you will be paid if you win. I would like to offer you some consolation by sending you 3.45 Bitcoin that you had taken from you unfairly by Bitstarz. You can either pm me a Bitcoin address or a https://betking.io user id and I can tip it to you on the site. No obligation to play, instant withdrawal if you like. All the best Really superb move!
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May 03, 2016, 10:13:51 PM |
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Hi worthyou, As a casino owner who has always made it top priority to provide a trusted and safe place for players to play I am tired of seeing players get screwed over time and time again by other Bitcoin casinos. In future I would recommend you play only on provably fair sites that have a solid reputation, proven to be trustworthy and no history of withdrawal issues. There are a few you have been suggested in this thread already and obviously I suggest https://betking.io where we have the highest betting limits, instant withdrawals and proof of funds so you know you will be paid if you win. I would like to offer you some consolation by sending you 3.45 Bitcoin that you had taken from you unfairly by Bitstarz. You can either pm me a Bitcoin address or a https://betking.io user id and I can tip it to you on the site. No obligation to play, instant withdrawal if you like. All the best this is a great move made by you.! people like you is what we need. you giving consolation of 3.45btc back to him seems unreal but i play at betking.io and i know you are fair and you will do it so thumbs up! regards. -Katerniko1
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May 03, 2016, 10:15:46 PM |
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Wow, whichever way you look at it, it seems OP got shafted. To me he was giving action in good faith without any apparent malicious intentions. Yet the casino is willing to make the judgment it did and risk its rep over a few paltry btc.
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May 03, 2016, 10:34:58 PM |
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Looks like Bitstarz lost their chance to make up for it. Good move from dean certainly.
Seems like your luck has turned worthyou!
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May 03, 2016, 11:13:38 PM |
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Hello I really can't believe you are willing to send my stolen funds. OMG Here is my btc address 1Pb4m9dPYhyegUruhwKysw5nuZarULGmCP Let's see what happens
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May 03, 2016, 11:32:08 PM |
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Hello I really can't believe you are willing to send my stolen funds. OMG Here is my btc address 1Pb4m9dPYhyegUruhwKysw5nuZarULGmCP Let's see what happens Hi, I just sent you 3.45 Bitcoin to the address you provided. Good luck
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May 03, 2016, 11:32:25 PM |
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Hello I really can't believe you are willing to send my stolen funds. OMG Here is my btc address 1Pb4m9dPYhyegUruhwKysw5nuZarULGmCP Let's see what happens What I can guarantee is that you will get them Edit: you already did xD
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May 03, 2016, 11:42:44 PM |
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Here is tx: https://blockchain.info/tr/tx/955c03079088cc1de82395e4143bc3fcc8061f9be21463b08e69e48b3268af7cIt's unbelieveble. What can i say anymore I am still can't believe my eyes about what is happening. I've played many times before betking.io. Never faced with any problem. Withdrawals are instant. However i couldn't even predict it to betking.io will cover my stolen funds. I deeply respect to betking.io . They acted with compassion while bitstarz have not done anything else to solve this issue. While bitstarz just blaming me. Betking shows that they are trusted and safe company. They are blancing over other casinos faults. This business sensibility and ethical values are really that we need on bitcoin ecosystem. While others do not have. In conclusion, i really want to thank you betking.io for covering my balance. I'd also like to thank to bitcointalk community. While askgambler (which is totally funded by bitstarz advertisements) did not interested with my complaint. Casinomeister is other place i opened a topic to discuss for, while many players justifed me, their administration did not do anything for my issue. Thank you.
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May 03, 2016, 11:44:03 PM |
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Here is tx: https://blockchain.info/tr/tx/955c03079088cc1de82395e4143bc3fcc8061f9be21463b08e69e48b3268af7cIt's unbelieveble. What can i say anymore I am still can't believe my eyes about what is happening. I've played many times before betking.io. Never faced with any problem. Withdrawals are instant. However i couldn't even predict it to betking.io will cover my stolen funds. I deeply respect to betking.io . They acted with compassion while bitstarz have not done anything else to solve this issue. While bitstarz just blaming me. Betking shows that they are trusted and safe company. They are blancing over other casinos faults. This business sensibility and ethical values are really that we need on bitcoin ecosystem. While others do not have. In conclusion, i really want to thank you betking.io for covering my balance. I'd also like to thank to bitcointalk community. While askgambler (which is totally funded by bitstarz advertisements) did not interested with my complaint. Casinomeister is other place i opened a topic to discuss for, while many players justifed me, their administration did not do anything for my issue. Thank you. Happy for you. Spend the coins well
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joksim299
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May 04, 2016, 12:25:20 AM |
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Hello I really can't believe you are willing to send my stolen funds. OMG Here is my btc address 1Pb4m9dPYhyegUruhwKysw5nuZarULGmCP Let's see what happens Hi, I just sent you 3.45 Bitcoin to the address you provided. Good luck This act is for news! Be ashamed BitStarz. I received few bonuses BetKing in the past and they were with no strings attached, received bonus(185mBTC) from BitCasino.io for guessing 3 numbers right and had to wager it 40x to request cashout I will never play at Bitstarz or any other SoftSwiss casino from now.
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May 04, 2016, 12:26:43 AM |
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It is interesting to see that, on one hand, Dean is willing giving away 3.45 btc just because he don't want to see a player (not even playing on his site) getting screwed. On the other hand, Bitstars has created ambiguous rules and chosen to not process the withdrawal at the expense of its reputation. Kudos to you, Dean.
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May 04, 2016, 12:44:20 AM |
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Wow that's great move by Betking.io. Honestly I didn't paly at their site before but after this incident it's clear that I'll make some bets, I just learned they have sport bets too. That's great marketing move for them. Bitstarz lost all their credits though. I found this incident similar to Bitcoinlivebets.com. They refused to pay bonus prizes and then they became scam. That's a big warning for Bitstarz users.
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May 04, 2016, 06:39:01 AM |
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Hi all, I think our reputation on AskGamblers speak for itself. As someone stated earlier we've got a 9.13 out of 10 (based on 64 unique reviews) and are ranked #4 out of 1085 casinos. Also, as mentioned earlier unfortunately this player broke the terms that he agreed to, and unfortunately had to suffer the consequences for it. This has also been mentioned in Casinomeister and AskGamblers where their admins and senior members are taking our side in this, which is a clear no-brainer considering the rules were clearly stated and were breached. I know it sucks to lose the money, but you've essentially broken terms that you agreed to, and which is one of the most common terms out there. Again, it's not like we felt like removing some money from your account and just did it, you broke the rules you agreed to. Therefore I'm not entirely sure what the rant here is all about. As also mentioned earlier, we confiscated the money, informed about the breaching of rules and gave you another shot. The first bet you did was again over the limit, so I'm not sure what to think about your playing. This time you were clearly aware about the term and you broke it again. In conclusion, I'll let the reviews of the casino on AskGamblers speak for itself, as long as you stick to the rules while playing at BitStarz, you're welcome to play without any issues. If you are unclear about the rules, ask us and if you do not agree with the terms, we wish you the best of luck in another casino. Regards, Mike EDIT: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73235&page=4http://www.askgamblers.com/forum/topic/5958-bitstarz-removes-345-btc-balance-according-to-breaking-bonus-terms/
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May 04, 2016, 09:34:30 AM |
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First of all you are keep going your unethical behaviour. You are still telling lies to community. Same lies. While bitcointalk community justifed me, gave red trust to you, everone claims that you are a scam casino, you are still trying to defend yourselves. What a scheme. You are still trying to defend your scammy behaviour.
No need to talk about askgamblers. Because they fully funded by you with your advertisements. It is really bullshit to expect sth from askgamblers.
In casinomeister, many community members had also justifed me. According to their terms about PAB, it may be understand to why they are not interested in with my complaint. If you are brave enough, please share vinylweatherman 's posts about your unethical business.
At the moment, everyone knows you are a scam casino. You can not do any business on bitcointalk anymore. You removed my balance without any reason. I never agreed on breaking rules. While you stated "advantage play" rule and i m fully right according to that terms.
You scammed me. You took red trust on here. Eveything is clear. So please just stop to defend yourselves. You are not a trustworthy and safe place to gambling. We have great sites like betking.io, we "bitcointalk community" do not need you.
I'd highly warn users to avoid bitstarz in all conditions. Do not play on bitstarz.
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May 04, 2016, 09:39:36 AM |
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First of all you are keep going your unethical behaviour. You are still telling lies to community. Same lies. While bitcointalk community justifed me, gave red trust to you, everone claims that you are a scam casino, you are still trying to defend yourselves. What a scheme. You are still trying to defend your scammy behaviour.
No need to talk about askgamblers. Because they fully funded by you with your advertisements. It is really bullshit to expect sth from askgamblers.
In casinomeister, many community members had also justifed me. According to their terms about PAB, it may be understand to why they are not interested in with my complaint. If you are brave enough, please share vinylweatherman 's posts about your unethical business.
At the moment, everyone knows you are a scam casino. You can not do any business on bitcointalk anymore. You removed my balance without any reason. I never agreed on breaking rules. While you stated "advantage play" rule and i m fully right according to that terms.
You scammed me. You took red trust on here. Eveything is clear. So please just stop to defend yourselves. You are not a trustworthy and safe place to gambling. We have great sites like betking.io, we "bitcointalk community" do not need you.
I'd highly warn users to avoid bitstarz in all conditions. Do not play on bitstarz.
For the most part I agree with this but I wouldn't call it a straight up scam. But what I do agree is it's a bit weird to what extent they are trying to defend themselves. Correct me if I am wrong but earlier was mentioned the bonus bet limit only appears after claiming such a bonus. Wouldn't this be kind of an unethical way to just fool players who thought they are already up to date with the terms.
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May 04, 2016, 01:38:34 PM |
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Is the bonus automatically applied? Yes or No?
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May 04, 2016, 01:46:34 PM |
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Here is the story:
I am a big player of bitstarz. I deposit big, bet bigger. Last week i lost 2.54 btc. They credited my account with 0.25 btc loyalty/cashback bonus.
Then i started to play. I played one slot with 0.024 btc. I hit about 2btc win. Then i lowered my bet to 0.012 btc. I get bored, then i played with 0.03 and 0.06 btc. Most of my winnings come from my first 0.024 btc bets.
Then i finished bonus rollover. Requested a 3.45 btc withdraw. They cancelled it and they removed my entire balance. Their claim is " You broke our rules by betting over 0.025 btc ".
I respect their rules. I did not know that rule. However while most of my winnings comes from 0.024 btc bet, they remove whole balance.
I feel scammed. They could remove my bets over 25mbtc (both wins and loses comes from that bets) then remains my balance with comes from 0.025 below bets. Then i could go on to rollever bonus amount.
My advise is that do not play on bitstarz. They can easily remove your balance for any reason as i lose 3.45 btc.
Hi there, First of all I'm sorry we had to do this but I believe many players here on this forum are well aware of the max betting with bonuses and stay below the stated limit in the casino's terms and conditions. It's quite common practice on online casinos. This was also a free bonus we threw your way and gave you the loyalty bonus back to give you another shot at winnings, which we believed was a decent gesture in all this. We as a casino has obligations but as the same time you have an obligation as a player to follow the rules, and we are sorry they were not followed this time which resulted in this confiscation. It was not a case of a one time over the limit thing, I unfortunately counted over 50 bets which were over the limit. If there was a case of a one-off thing, we would have looked the other way most likely, but it was not the case this time. If the OP or any of the other players here have any questions regarding this, I'm here to answer. Hope everyone has a great weekend, Mike Then why do you even make it possible to bet that big with the bonus? I would honestly do the same as this guy without even realising it was wrong. This is the first time I've heard of such a rule and I've played at quite a few online casino's
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May 04, 2016, 01:48:25 PM |
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Is the bonus automatically applied? Yes or No?
Bonuses from Welcome Package are automatically added to users account (users do not have to confirm that he agree with T&C for the particular bonus) in worthofyou case BitStarz added bonus to his account I made account today and was placing 0.03 bets using bonus funds and lost, can I contact you to issue refund?
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Hi worthyou, As a casino owner who has always made it top priority to provide a trusted and safe place for players to play I am tired of seeing players get screwed over time and time again by other Bitcoin casinos. In future I would recommend you play only on provably fair sites that have a solid reputation, proven to be trustworthy and no history of withdrawal issues. There are a few you have been suggested in this thread already and obviously I suggest https://betking.io where we have the highest betting limits, instant withdrawals and proof of funds so you know you will be paid if you win. I would like to offer you some consolation by sending you 3.45 Bitcoin that you had taken from you unfairly by Bitstarz. You can either pm me a Bitcoin address or a https://betking.io user id and I can tip it to you on the site. No obligation to play, instant withdrawal if you like. All the best I was reading this thread with while eating popcorn and drinking soda but this post made me spit it all. This is by far the most awesome promotional/kind/unexpected move I've seen in casino business so far. Congratulations to worthyou and hats down to BetKing.io for capitalizing on this whole misunderstanding.
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May 04, 2016, 03:49:48 PM |
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Here is tx: https://blockchain.info/tr/tx/955c03079088cc1de82395e4143bc3fcc8061f9be21463b08e69e48b3268af7cIt's unbelieveble. What can i say anymore I am still can't believe my eyes about what is happening. I've played many times before betking.io. Never faced with any problem. Withdrawals are instant. However i couldn't even predict it to betking.io will cover my stolen funds. I deeply respect to betking.io . They acted with compassion while bitstarz have not done anything else to solve this issue. While bitstarz just blaming me. Betking shows that they are trusted and safe company. They are blancing over other casinos faults. This business sensibility and ethical values are really that we need on bitcoin ecosystem. While others do not have. In conclusion, i really want to thank you betking.io for covering my balance. I'd also like to thank to bitcointalk community. While askgambler (which is totally funded by bitstarz advertisements) did not interested with my complaint. Casinomeister is other place i opened a topic to discuss for, while many players justifed me, their administration did not do anything for my issue. Thank you. I've been in crypto world for 3 years now. and i can say the only 2 people i trust in crypto gambling are Dean from betking and dooglus fom just dice dooglus i could live without, but dean is solid j/k
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