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[Timelord2067]

Hi, I thought I'd try Bithra out,

On the Block Chain I have BTC 0.00164169 https://blockchain.info/address/1DeiTBRzQYhfwyTSXH5RP82u3xCcC7uAWf

However, on Bithra it says I have no funds: https://www.bithra.com/escrows/1DeiTBRzQYhfwyTSXH5RP82u3xCcC7uAWf

When does the page update?  (Refreshing the page doesn't update the total).

Thanks.

[Decoded]

Ive dealt with some pretty mean traders in the past. They agree to use escrow, I provide them with the service, but they don't release the payment. It just sits in the escrow's wallet. How do you guys combat this?

Also, what if the recipient does not fulfill the job or you want to decrease his pay due to bad quality?

[Timelord2067]

Ive dealt with some pretty mean traders in the past. They agree to use escrow, I provide them with the service, but they don't release the payment. It just sits in the escrow's wallet. How do you guys combat this?

Also, what if the recipient does not fulfil the job or you want to decrease his pay due to bad quality?

In theory using Bithra the person who puts the coins into Escrow has already lost them, so it's in their best interest to make the deal happen.  I can see somewhere down the track some serious coin will get "donated" to the Bithra creator, as I read something about he gets the cons after one year (still not sure how he manages that if he doesn't have the "release secret"

[Timelord2067]

I figured that by giving the link to blockchain.info that it would be taken as given that I had already checked the link to block trail https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1DeiTBRzQYhfwyTSXH5RP82u3xCcC7uAWf which also shows the funds as having landed.

However, the Bithra page still hasn't updated stating:

? BTC
(+ ? BTC unconfirmed)

https://www.bithra.com/escrows/1DeiTBRzQYhfwyTSXH5RP82u3xCcC7uAWf

It seems to be showing now.

What browser can you see it on?

I'm sure I won't be the only one asking, traders and their customers will also want to see the funds are being held in Escrow before they continue.

Thanks again.

[Timelord2067]

Sorry about the delay getting back to this:

Mozilla FireFox and SeaMonkey both don't show the balance, however, Maxthon Cloud does show the balance, so all I have to do now is have the funds released.

(The above versions are all PortableApps versions of the Browsers)...

[alipro]

just do an escrow on bithra.com with lakuf,wish it work well

[lalala123456]

AMAZING SERVICE. RHaver is the REAL DEAL!

I lost 50$ earlier today to a scammer after not reading the details on escrow. I contacted RHaver and immediately got a response back. He blacklisted the guy who scammed me, neg trust him, and then graciously REFUNDED me out of his OWN POCKET!! AMAZING guy. Will be using his escrow service in the future and cant recommend his service enough to you guys!!

[lalala123456]

just do an escrow on bithra.com with lakuf,wish it work well

This is the guy who scammed me, F "lakuf" and all your alt accounts.

[alipro]

just do an escrow on bithra.com with lakuf,wish it work well

This is the guy who scammed me, F "lakuf" and all your alt accounts.

just do an escrow on bithra.com with lakuf,wish it work well

This is the guy who scammed me, F "lakuf" and all your alt accounts.

yes,he is a fraud
How can I do now???
https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipNpnWVdfvNeCiYOcaX5EEUeUAUUdDmzcVOb8tJW

[Timelord2067]

just do an escrow on bithra.com with lakuf,wish it work well

This is the guy who scammed me, F "lakuf" and all your alt accounts.

just do an escrow on bithra.com with lakuf,wish it work well

This is the guy who scammed me, F "lakuf" and all your alt accounts.

yes,he is a fraud
How can I do now???
https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipNpnWVdfvNeCiYOcaX5EEUeUAUUdDmzcVOb8tJW

Hmm:

Two things:

Firstly there is no "negative" on alipro's account (at all) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=857215

Secondly, please take your scam accusation to the so named scam accusation section.

[kassadin5]

i need advice if you can
i just went to buy something worth 160$ on bithra escrow from forum user lind82 (SCAMMER, PLEASE GIVE HIM NEGATIVE TRUST), i sent the money, then the seller (as you can see from the screenshots below) asked for the key, i started googling and found this
is there really no way to dispute my btc back?
before you start commenting on my trust read what it says, im not a scammer, i just sell something that shouldnt be sold
anyway pls help me guys, i really need the money...

[kassadin5]

hello? RHavar i saw you just gave him negative trust, please answer my pm

[Timelord2067]

i need advice if you can
i just went to buy something worth 160$ on bithra escrow from forum user lind82 (SCAMMER, PLEASE GIVE HIM NEGATIVE TRUST), i sent the money, then the seller (as you can see from the screenshots below) asked for the key, i started googling and found this
is there really no way to dispute my btc back?
before you start commenting on my trust read what it says, im not a scammer, i just sell something that shouldnt be sold
anyway pls help me guys, i really need the money...

You need to put all this in the Scam accusation section...

In any event, you put this into user lind82 's trust...

Scammed me for 160$, photo proof below, used skype profile lind82 and bitcoin adress 12GNo1TNmm8g75XtfD9M7LfeXLv39r8jHQ with 442 transactions at the moment
DONT USE BITHRA ESCROW IF HE PROPOSES IT, YOU CANT DISPUTE IT, IF YOU SEND YOUR BTC IS GONE, YOU CAN EITHER RELEASE ESCROW OR FORGET ABOUT THEM

lind82 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552363


I can't actually read what the screen shots say, but I'm just wondering did the other party refuse to send whatever it is, or have you decided not to go ahead with the trade?

Did you understand how Bithra has been set up to lock funds away until agreement can be reached?

[kassadin5]

can you see them now

https://i.imgur.com/RpoydOz.png

https://i.imgur.com/VOfajQ6.png

https://i.imgur.com/ihPiHl1.png

[bitcoin revo]

can you see them now

-snip-

Maybe, but this is a scam accusation and shouldn't be clogging up bithra.com's thread. Can you take it to the Scam Accusations section?

[kassadin5]

the money from the scam is stuck in bithra, and the owner of bithra himself admits he is 100% sure it's my money and i've been scammed, and he refuses to give me my btc
"However we do plan on sweeping abandoned escrows that are clearly never going to be resolved (older than a year, and no extensions)"
this is a quote from the page FAQ, he makes money by sweeping anything older then a year, and as you can see on the picture below, he asked me to wait for (wait for it) 1 year before contacting him
suspicious?


https://i.imgur.com/zoHSpnF.png

[Timelord2067]

From what I have seen Bithra.com is working exactly as it is supposed to.

As an outside observer, I have addressed at length the dual scam accusations here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1534851.msg15449921#msg15449921 and have also contacted lind82 for comment.

As there is a dedicated scam accusation thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1534851.0 it is unnecessary to continue this discussion any further here.

[kassadin5]

ok then, what evidence do you need to release my btc? i will get it
*edit, just saw timelord's post, he's right, we'll continue this over there

[lind82]

ok then, what evidence do you need to release my btc? i will get it
*edit, just saw timelord's post, he's right, we'll continue this over there

i can help you for get btc you back, if you want ...

[GregH37]

From what I have seen Bithra.com is working exactly as it is supposed to.

As an outside observer, I have addressed at length the dual scam accusations here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1534851.msg15449921#msg15449921 and have also contacted lind82 for comment.

As there is a dedicated scam accusation thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1534851.0 it is unnecessary to continue this discussion any further here.

So finally it started to an scam. that's shit.. now people should be more careful about web based escrow services. I think we already have our legit and genuine human escrows here in bitcoin talk so we should prefer to get help from them instead of using a website which doesn't give any guarantee for your money.