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I believe that Spurs would be a decent test for both Pep and Spurs, Mourinho versus Pep has always been a thing in the past and because Pep was luckier he got to richer clubs and managed to get a decent result, at least won the league and all that, Mourinho is now dropped as low as Roma which is not horrible but it is not a team that is fighting for champions league. We have proven that Pep is not great at champions league, he literally came to finals versus Chelsea, the same team they beat by a huge point margin in the league and the same team that lost to Leicester on FA cup very recently and they ended up losing to them in the finals.
If you ask me that is a good enough reason to fire him and get a new manager. At this point I know it would sound insane for most but I suggest Leeds manager Marcelo Bielsa, I just believe in him too much, in a few seasons he can take this team to domination over Europe, but I have personal bias because I like him so much.
It would be a REAL test for Pep to see if he can actually manage a team without a big budget and only one or two really world-class players. He is famous for turning no names into big names at City but he still had a team of stars surrounding them,,, so very interesting to see if he can at another smaller club with tight budget and it does not get tighter than Spurs LOL
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Pep will never go to a tier 2-3 team like Spurs is nowadays so don't get to hype around that idea. Pep clearly said he has a single purpose left with City and that is to make them think and believe they are they top team in Europe so they should win UCL in the next 2-3 years. ( all this will be possible with Pep staying ).
Euro is closer and closer everyday , that is what I'm waiting for.
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June 05, 2021, 11:56:54 AM |
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Pep will never go to a tier 2-3 team like Spurs is nowadays
Spurs tier 2-3??? Wtf
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June 05, 2021, 12:29:41 PM |
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Pep will never go to a tier 2-3 team like Spurs is nowadays
Spurs tier 2-3??? Wtf @boltz Tottenham may not have won the league title in a long time now, but they’re definitely not a tier 2 - 3 team. Furthermore if you have forgotten they were on the top of the premier league table for a very long time this season, before they chocked and collapsed which proves they’re a quality team just and they just need a right coach to help them challenge for the title.
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Spurs tier 2-3??? Wtf
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Every Team To Have A Yellow Card In The Group Stages / Yes Guys, what do you think about today's offer from Sportsbet? I think the bet looks pretty safe considering that each team will have 3 chances of getting a yellow card. I feel like I will have to replenish the balance again ... because over the next 5 days we will definitely see a couple of tempting offers. I agree at 6.00 it's a good offer, even though it only takes one team to ruin the party it's more likely that every single team will get at least one yellow.
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i also had Italy in one of my friday bet slips ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIcGyCP4.png&t=665&c=4ABD_OrjVEel1A) kind of a no brainer to back Italy nowadays. 9 wins in a row, they are unbeaten in almost 30 games, showing splendid football in every match. One of the main favorites to win the Euro for sure https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/international/european-championship/european-championship-60619d7fb94a9726b585fe8d as you can see here they are not, they are 7th in the odds which is basically eliminated before semi finals levels, if a team is not even semi finals worthy than there is rarely ever "one of the best teams" situation going on for them. I am not saying that it is impossible for them to win, they could get lucky with the draws and maybe someone worse will beat someone better and would be easier opponent for Italy that way etc etc, like these things do happen in these cups I am not against that at all and I agree with it. However this is "unexpected" that may happen we are talking about, on the average Italy is not seen as the best. My personal favorite is France, they have been good for a while and they will probably be good again this year.
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Euro is staring in few days and I hope we are going to see some good matches and win some bets. Anyone noticed that Sportsbet started with new Free 6-6 promotion for Euro and we can we can get up to $100,000 in Bitcoin if we correctly predict outcome for six matches of round 1? Turkey vs Italy Wales vs Switzerland Denmark vs Finland Belgium vs Russia England vs Croatia Austria vs North Macedonia https://sportsbet.io/sports/bet-free-6-6
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Euro is staring in few days and I hope we are going to see some good matches and win some bets. Anyone noticed that Sportsbet started with new Free 6-6 promotion for Euro and we can we can get up to $100,000 in Bitcoin if we correctly predict outcome for six matches of round 1? Turkey vs Italy Wales vs Switzerland Denmark vs Finland Belgium vs Russia England vs Croatia Austria vs North Macedonia https://sportsbet.io/sports/bet-free-6-6Thank you for this, I did not notice it until now so happily put in all my picks for big wins for England, Belgium, Austria, not sure about Italy Wales Denmark but I might change my picks currently do small wins for these guys. I picked almost all losers to have zero goals too. First game so unlikely to have draws right?
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June 06, 2021, 01:47:24 PM |
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Anyone noticed that Sportsbet started with new Free 6-6 promotion for Euro and we can we can get up to $100,000 in Bitcoin if we correctly predict outcome for six matches of round 1?
I noticed that yesterday, pretty cool promo. I put in my predictions, of course. Sportsbet also have a 4/3 promo with free predictions. If you get all 4 predictions right you get a $50 free bet, if you get 3 of 4 correct you get a $10 free bet. Yesterday's predictions were for the Formula 1 races this morning, today's promo is to predict the results of the France vs. Bulgaria match. It's not $100k, but still cool.
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I would agree that Spurs is not a top level team, which leaves a tier two for remainder, but this is like whole europe of course. Think about it this way, Spurs is not even in european competitions this year right? Or even if they are, they barely made it in there so what does that tell you? We are talking about a "tier 1" of european clubs, the city, the Liverpool (which dropped this season a bit) the real madrids, the barcelonas, the PSG, the Bayern and many of the likes, those are the tier ones who basically fight for the UCL every season, is there even a single chance Spurs could win premier league or UCL in the next few seasons? There is none.
It means that makes them a tier two team for me and for others like me. I am not saying they are a bad team, they are good, they are just not THAT good and definitely tier 2 for europe as well.
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I would agree that Spurs is not a top level team, which leaves a tier two for remainder, but this is like whole europe of course. Think about it this way, Spurs is not even in european competitions this year right? Or even if they are, they barely made it in there so what does that tell you? We are talking about a "tier 1" of european clubs, the city, the Liverpool (which dropped this season a bit) the real madrids, the barcelonas, the PSG, the Bayern and many of the likes, those are the tier ones who basically fight for the UCL every season, is there even a single chance Spurs could win premier league or UCL in the next few seasons? There is none.
It means that makes them a tier two team for me and for others like me. I am not saying they are a bad team, they are good, they are just not THAT good and definitely tier 2 for europe as well.
I mean.. They lost to Liverpool in the finals just 2 years ago. But hey ho let's say they're not a top tier team in Europe, lol. Edit: 17/18 they made top 16 in UCL 18/19 they made the final in UCL 19/20 they made top 16 in UCL 20/21 they went through a pandemic and 3 coaches, as well as some injuries on the main man Kane. I think we can cut them some slack and still call them a good European team that does not belong in any tier 2 category.
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June 06, 2021, 07:34:42 PM |
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I really had some bad luck with my free bets from Sportsbet, losing one of them on UFC fight and second one lost betting on those bloody friendly matches, so maybe I am saving myself for that big $100k prize ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) EURO countdown starts in 5 days https://yourcountdown.to/uefa-euro-2020
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Thank you for these words Hhampuz hehe:)
tygeade I am a Spurs fan here and I do not know what the London native fans feel like but from a very small group of Spurs supporters in my hometown I think we can summarize our thoughts as this,,, we are a good club and we are a London club, so that has helped us attract a lot of players who would not usually pick our team (living in capital overseas is always important for family I believe for many foreigners).
But at the core, when you see who we have had and our motto, we do believe in good and positive football and have had the ability to turn people into talents. Think back before our current team and see Gareth Bale, even people like Llorente, and think about Modric, and think about Berbatov to go that far back!
Since Kane, who by the way is almost every season fighting for golden boot despite every season getting bad injuries, as Hhampuz shows, we have made champions league and gone through group stage. And we finished in good places in Premier League.
At less budget than others, at less star teams than others. We just had a bad board that did not support Poch but otherwise we were a good team at points. See how we played especially two season and three seasons ago! Watch 18/19 Champions League and tell me that was a second rate team:)
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@leea-1334 Like I said before, I am not saying Spurs is a bad team, I never claimed that, and you guys are acting as if I said Spurs is a bad team, you have named a few players that came out Spurs, which is good and all but that doesn't make you at the top tier neither. All I said was there are like maybe 5 or at most 10 teams at the top tier of all european teams, those are at a different level and I believe spurs is not there.
I would say that they are definitely in the top 20 of the european clubs but I wouldn't put them in top 5 at all, its a place where we have to talk about if top tier is top 5 or top 10 or top 20, if you say top 20 is top tier then you can put Spurs in there for now. However Hhampuz shows that they have been "good" for 3 seasons, and that good is being top 16 and I know that, I still think eliminated at top 16 is not top tier, and they have done this recently, go back further and they are even worse. I just feel like I wouldn't put them in the same category as Barcelona, Madrid, City, Bayern, PSG and the likes.
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Like I said before, I am not saying Spurs is a bad team, I never claimed that, and you guys are acting as if I said Spurs is a bad team, you have named a few players that came out Spurs, which is good and all but that doesn't make you at the top tier neither. All I said was there are like maybe 5 or at most 10 teams at the top tier of all european teams, those are at a different level and I believe spurs is not there.
Spurs have good players but the general quality of their players is not at top levels. Some of them are at top levels include Harry Kane, Son Heung Min. I can not find other players in Spurs can have same level of Kane and Son. Bale is not their player and he has problems with his fitness. I would say that they are definitely in the top 20 of the european clubs but I wouldn't put them in top 5 at all, its a place where we have to talk about if top tier is top 5 or top 10 or top 20, if you say top 20 is top tier then you can put Spurs in there for now.
Spurs can not belong to the top 10 because they can not end their national league (Premier League) in top 2 or top 3. If considering the top 10 is best clubs from top national leagues in the Europe, they need to be in top 3 of their national leagues, and their leagues need to be tier 1 in the Europe. Spurs belong to the top 20 but that top does not make sense. They can not win titles, just try to join the Tier 1. Harry Kane feel disappointed because of no titles from his contributions. However Hhampuz shows that they have been "good" for 3 seasons, and that good is being top 16 and I know that, I still think eliminated at top 16 is not top tier, and they have done this recently, go back further and they are even worse. I just feel like I wouldn't put them in the same category as Barcelona, Madrid, City, Bayern, PSG and the likes.
Spurs belong to the top clubs in Europa League but even so, they can not win Europa League. It is a fact about their quality.
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Y'all are crazy making arguments for why Spurs are not a tier 1 team, jesus christ.
City may dominate in the PL but how have they been fairing in UCL? If you wanna pit the best teams in Europe against each other, are we only counting this 2020/2021 season? If so, does Barcelona belong in tier 1? Are we looking further back, does City really fit in tier 1 then?
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@leea-1334 Like I said before, I am not saying Spurs is a bad team, I never claimed that, and you guys are acting as if I said Spurs is a bad team, you have named a few players that came out Spurs, which is good and all but that doesn't make you at the top tier neither. All I said was there are like maybe 5 or at most 10 teams at the top tier of all european teams, those are at a different level and I believe spurs is not there.
I would say that they are definitely in the top 20 of the european clubs but I wouldn't put them in top 5 at all, its a place where we have to talk about if top tier is top 5 or top 10 or top 20, if you say top 20 is top tier then you can put Spurs in there for now. However Hhampuz shows that they have been "good" for 3 seasons, and that good is being top 16 and I know that, I still think eliminated at top 16 is not top tier, and they have done this recently, go back further and they are even worse. I just feel like I wouldn't put them in the same category as Barcelona, Madrid, City, Bayern, PSG and the likes.
Okay:) No worries I am not offended if that is what you think I am,,, but when you say second tier, and now you say Spurs is in top 20, then I am puzzled because first tier to me is the whole of premier league, la liga, serie A, bundesliga, etc,,, from all the "top seed" national leagues of uefa coefficient. To be in top 20 european clubs and still becoming second tier, then how many tiers are there in over 100 clubs from all the big leagues? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Y'all are crazy making arguments for why Spurs are not a tier 1 team, jesus christ.
City may dominate in the PL but how have they been fairing in UCL? If you wanna pit the best teams in Europe against each other, are we only counting this 2020/2021 season? If so, does Barcelona belong in tier 1? Are we looking further back, does City really fit in tier 1 then?
Yup.. When anybody says ‘tier 1’, 4 - 5 clubs immediately come to mind: Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern, Man United and Liverpool. These clubs have the trophies and more importantly the history to back them as ‘tier 1’. In tier 2, you got your Chelsea’s, City’s, BVB’s and all other clubs on that same level. I’d rate Spurs at tier 3, but that’s just me.
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