[Solved] I smell scam here - I think bitmarket.io is a scammer

[traderbit]

This issue has been solved and bitmarket.io has send us the funds.

Everything is explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1471789.msg15982034#msg15982034

What happened: bitmarket.io required a loan and i offered him the loan without any interest.
Firstly i asked if he is dealing with neotox and he said that he haven't done yet, I required him to make a post that he is dealing with me, after that i sent the amount and required from him to confirm on the thread then i got a strange reply "dafuq u smoking?", i was suprised with this.
Later he made a post that someone else is using his account, Password is changed as it can be seen on seclog. http://archive.is/WNdyf
I have a feeling that i have been scammed, should DT members do something in this case?

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=162203

Reference Link:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1471535.0 , http://archive.is/v8ZBi (Archived)
Amount Scammed: 0.164492
Payment Method: Bitcoin
Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/09aad092f97ee5d0e6a8b6a652f038ded3d60fa12cba4e22ca4f2a4e8972ed80
PM/Chat Logs:

I can fund this loan with no interest, if you haven't made any deal with Neotox please let me know.

Hi, I haven't got it done yet.

That would be amazing.

Thank you.

Ok, I'm sending now and will write the address to send back.

P.S Could you please reply to my post that you are taking the loan from me, thanks!

Just did

Alright, i have just sent the 0.164492BTC worth 75 USD (coindesk rate), please repay 0.164492BTC to my address: 1BeyxTH4JP4TYB1WUmu1XvPYhw6QTbep4L

Please confirm it.

dafuq u smoking?

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[Bettwarm]

What happened: bitmarket.io required a loan and i offered him the loan without any interest.
Firstly i asked if he is dealing with neotox and he said that he haven't done yet, I required him to make a post that he is dealing with me, after that i sent the amount and required from him to confirm on the thread then i got a strange reply "dafuq u smoking?", i was suprised with this.
Later he made a post that someone else is using his account, Password is changed as it can be seen on seclog.
I have a feeling that i have been scammed, should DT members do something in this case?

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=162203

Reference Link:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1471535.0 , http://archive.is/v8ZBi (Archived)
Amount Scammed: 0.164492
Payment Method: Bitcoin
Proof of Payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/09aad092f97ee5d0e6a8b6a652f038ded3d60fa12cba4e22ca4f2a4e8972ed80
PM/Chat Logs:

I can fund this loan with no interest, if you haven't made any deal with Neotox please let me know.

Hi, I haven't got it done yet.

That would be amazing.

Thank you.

Ok, I'm sending now and will write the address to send back.

P.S Could you please reply to my post that you are taking the loan from me, thanks!

Just did

Alright, i have just sent the 0.164492BTC worth 75 USD (coindesk rate), please repay 0.164492BTC to my address: 1BeyxTH4JP4TYB1WUmu1XvPYhw6QTbep4L

Please confirm it.

dafuq u smoking?

U should have asked for a signed message before sending the loan. Ask someone from DT to tagg the account with negative trust.

[traderbit]

U should have asked for a signed message before sending the loan.

I know, this was my mistake, but don't know how i trusted him. I checked the seclog if the password was changed the last 30days but couldn't find anything.

[Bettwarm]

U should have asked for a signed message before sending the loan.

I know, this was my mistake, but don't know how i trusted him. I checked the seclog if the password was changed the last 30days but couldn't find anything.

He just reset his password at: 9:24:34 PM, so this my account got hacked is fake.
After getting the loan his account password changed, he is busted.

[Lutpin]

I have a feeling that i have been scammed, should DT members do something in this case?

Sounds alot like you indeed were.
Went ahead and left a (temporary) negative feedback on the account, posting here to keep track of the discussion.
Let's see how this one plays out.

He just reset his password at: 9:24:34 PM, so this my account got hacked is fake.
After getting the loan his account password changed, he is busted.

Maybe that password reset was to lock the hacker out of his account, not to "fake a hack".

[Quickseller]

Regardless of if the hack was fake or not, I would say that bitmarket.io should repay both his lenders as it was his account that requested the loan and he is the one who is responsible for maintaining the security of his account.

[Bettwarm]

I have a feeling that i have been scammed, should DT members do something in this case?

Sounds alot like you indeed were.
Went ahead and left a (temporary) negative feedback on the account, posting here to keep track of the discussion.
Let's see how this one plays out.

He just reset his password at: 9:24:34 PM, so this my account got hacked is fake.
After getting the loan his account password changed, he is busted.

Maybe that password reset was to lock the hacker out of his account, not to "fake a hack".

Yes indeed, the hacker on purpose did not change the password since he wanted to scam people, and when a password changes and then asks a loan, it is obviously without a signed message that a scam will happen.

Traderbit, do not lend witout signed message.

[Lutpin]

Regardless of if the hack was fake or not, I would say that bitmarket.io should repay both his lenders as it was his account that requested the loan and he is the one who is responsible for maintaining the security of his account.

While I think (and would like to point out that) it was careless to give out a no collateral loan without requesting a signed message (and even more to give one out in private messages, while not really knowing the borrower, like the other guy did), I have to agree with QS here, it would be best for bitmarket.io to repair the damage done with their account and repay both lenders.

[traderbit]

Regardless of if the hack was fake or not, I would say that bitmarket.io should repay both his lenders as it was his account that requested the loan and he is the one who is responsible for maintaining the security of his account.

I don't know what is happening but let's wait from bitmarket.io to respond if he really was hacked or the hacker has still access to that account. I know that i have made a mistake by not asking for a signed message, can't believe how i didn't asked for it.

[zazarb]

question to @traderbit and @ThirstyMoon, Guys, where are you sane mind?
sarcastic, but you forcibly casting your money to  scammer. I have not seen you in lending section before. What prompted you to do so?
To lend need some knowledge also...

[traderbit]

question to @traderbit and @ThirstyMoon, Guys, where are you sane mind?
sarcastic, but you forcibly casting your money to  scammer. I have not seen you in lending section before. What prompted you to do so?
To lend need some knowledge also...

I have few posts in lending section, recently i have gave a loan of $5 to kozan and got paid within a week (even though there was a delay), i check regularly when i have time that section and i know how deals goes but i made a big mistake by not requiring a signed message,(even though i signed my post through my PGP key)

[Bettwarm]

Regardless of if the hack was fake or not, I would say that bitmarket.io should repay both his lenders as it was his account that requested the loan and he is the one who is responsible for maintaining the security of his account.

While I think (and would like to point out that) it was careless to give out a no collateral loan without requesting a signed message (and even more to give one out in private messages, while not really knowing the borrower, like the other guy did), I have to agree with QS here, it would be best for bitmarket.io to repair the damage done with their account and repay both lenders.

I think Traderbit should have asked for signed message. However Traderbit is the victim here, I think it should be repaid in a way, but I think it is also u fair to let someone repay 150$(2 loans). This will be a expensive lesson for either the lenders or the hacked person(real bitmarket.io).

[traderbit]

QS check this: seems that the hacker has these two accounts wheelz1200 and bitmarket.io

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Sorry to hear about this.  People are quick to loan to Hero and Legendary members so they rush to accept the loan request without asking for a signed message or collateral or whatever.  I did it myself and got burned.  Trust no one on this forum.

[bitmarket.io]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

[traderbit]

bitmarket.io is online and watching this thread:



P.S I think that i should contact those that have left positive feedback to bitmarket.io and maybe they can help me to reach the real owner of the account(if it is hacked).

[traderbit]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

If $75 are small for you they are pretty big to me, could you please send back my money to my address: 1BeyxTH4JP4TYB1WUmu1XvPYhw6QTbep4L ?
Can you sign a message to prove that you still own your account?

[Boelens]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

I have left a negative trust that will remain until the lenders recover their money.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

Right, but you know that the scam-->"hacked!" scenario is one we've seen over and over here, and it's worn thin. Not straight up calling you a liar, but it's definitely suspicious.  People who've been trusted here have done this.

[bitmarket.io]

We will see after admin reviews IP logs.

[Lutpin]

We will see after admin reviews IP logs.

IPs tell almost nothing, it wouldn't be to hard for you to fake that via VPN/TOR/whatever.
(Not saying that you did, I believe you to a point, but hell, stop digging your own grave here.)

[traderbit]

We will see after admin reviews IP logs.

Why are you doing this man? What are you trying to do mate? I tried to help you lending money with 0% interest, what benefit could i get? nothing, just helping you.people may think that i trade trust but the deals that i make i never ask for feedback.

Please repay 0.164492BTC to my address: 1BeyxTH4JP4TYB1WUmu1XvPYhw6QTbep4L

[Michail1]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

Fortunately, this can be easily solved.
bitmarket.io is the correct account.  Meaning, the posts were not from a similar or squatted account.
What makes this easy is that it's a very low amount.  The scammer was stupid enough to only ask for $75.

If it were me, I would just pay off the amount and save face (even on both loans and even though the second one was not asked for).

It's clear the password was changed after the fact (likely when bitmarket.io figured out something was wrong.  So, that scammer likely had the PW.  Less likely the session was hijacked.
bitmarket.io - tell us the password; I mean, you're not going to use it anymore.  Right?
- time to go through your password list and see where else you used the password, cause you don't use the password for all sites, right?

[Blazed]

I know bitmarket pretty well and he would not scam anyone...especially for such a tiny amount. I agree with Michail though he should just pay the lenders and tighten up his security game.

Bitmarket - I told you 123456 is not a good password bro...

[mammabitcoin2u]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

Right, but you know that the scam-->"hacked!" scenario is one we've seen over and over here, and it's worn thin. Not straight up calling you a liar, but it's definitely suspicious.  People who've been trusted here have done this.

Saved me a little writing ditto above. I'll say what others won't.  This is another piss poor half assed scam. Here's why:

Bitmarket.io's loan request is same writing style. Account activity same.
Wallet BTC funds went into belongs to Bitmarket.io
Does Bitmaker.io claim his wallet hacked as well?
Request made. Funds sent. Wondering what to do with a double send and goes offline (takes half n hour pondering and decides I'll say someone hacked my account. Transfers funds to new wallet. Sees postings about to tag Red and comes on to say Hacked? )

Give me some credit. A hacker isn't gonna wait 30 min to move funds; let alone move it to a New wallet and leave it there. Smarter scammers put it through a series now I've taught you something for next time.

Acting as if you wouldn't ask for something so small is nothing more than added fodder.

Inside job/scam.  Another pos on this forum

[Blazed]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

Right, but you know that the scam-->"hacked!" scenario is one we've seen over and over here, and it's worn thin. Not straight up calling you a liar, but it's definitely suspicious.  People who've been trusted here have done this.

Saved me a little writing ditto above. I'll say what others won't.  This is another piss poor half assed scam. Here's why:

Bitmarket.io's loan request is same writing style. Account activity same.
Wallet BTC funds went into belongs to Bitmarket.io
Does Bitmaker.io claim his wallet hacked as well?
Request made. Funds sent. Wondering what to do with a double send and goes offline (takes half n hour pondering and decides I'll say someone hacked my account. Transfers funds to new wallet. Sees postings about to tag Red and comes on to say Hacked? )

Give me some credit. A hacker isn't gonna wait 30 min to move funds; let alone move it to a New wallet and leave it there. Smarter scammers put it through a series now I've taught you something for next time.

Acting as if you wouldn't ask for something so small is nothing more than added fodder.

Inside job/scam.  Another pos on this forum

So the wallet the funds went to are linked to bitmarket? Please post us some evidence as that would change things quite a bit.

[DarkStar_]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

Right, but you know that the scam-->"hacked!" scenario is one we've seen over and over here, and it's worn thin. Not straight up calling you a liar, but it's definitely suspicious.  People who've been trusted here have done this.

Wallet BTC funds went into belongs to Bitmarket.io

Any proof of this? I used blocktrail to see if the address was mentioned on this forum before, and it hasn't. (Running a bctalkaccountpricer.info right now). The address isn't spend linked to any addresses as well.

[Michail1]

Saved me a little writing ditto above. I'll say what others won't.  This is another piss poor half assed scam. Here's why:

Bitmarket.io's loan request is same writing style. Account activity same.
Wallet BTC funds went into belongs to Bitmarket.io
Does Bitmaker.io claim his wallet hacked as well?
Request made. Funds sent. Wondering what to do with a double send and goes offline (takes half n hour pondering and decides I'll say someone hacked my account. Transfers funds to new wallet. Sees postings about to tag Red and comes on to say Hacked? )

Give me some credit. A hacker isn't gonna wait 30 min to move funds; let alone move it to a New wallet and leave it there. Smarter scammers put it through a series now I've taught you something for next time.

Acting as if you wouldn't ask for something so small is nothing more than added fodder.

Inside job/scam.  Another pos on this forum

Ummm, what?

I don't see the same writing style you're talking about. Being online while the scammer was online - uhhh, you call this same activity?
The funds went to a new address that hasn't been used before and hasn't been spent yet.
He didn't claim his wallet was hacked, only the bitcointalk account. - refer to the line above.
Not that you're wrong, but it sounds way off to me and you only made assumptions.

A scammer/hacker doesn't need to move coins at all if the address was his own.  I rarely move funds from my accounts unless I am spending them.

If he is selling a 10BTC coin for 18 (although overpriced) doesn't mean he is in need of a small or big loan.  Now, a scammer in a third world country would be happy as hell for $75 scam.

Would you be so dumb to ruin your reputation for $75?  I think not.

[enhu]

It would help if bitmarket.io will sign a message from an old bitcoin address and pay the loan amount and he could stop worrying all these.
since $75 is already sent its all gone now and people will believe what is written here unless its resolved.

[bitkilo]

We will see after admin reviews IP logs.

Admins don't always like to get involved in these situations.

If you want to prove that you are the original owner of bitmarket.io and have recovered the account after the "hack" then just sign an old address that you posted here once.
You have sold a  few coins here so there must be an address of your's out there somewhere.

Regardless of if the hack was fake or not, I would say that bitmarket.io should repay both his lenders as it was his account that requested the loan and he is the one who is responsible for maintaining the security of his account.

While I think (and would like to point out that) it was careless to give out a no collateral loan without requesting a signed message (and even more to give one out in private messages, while not really knowing the borrower, like the other guy did), I have to agree with QS here, it would be best for bitmarket.io to repair the damage done with their account and repay both lenders.

I think Traderbit should have asked for signed message. However Traderbit is the victim here, I think it should be repaid in a way, but I think it is also u fair to let someone repay 150$(2 loans). This will be a expensive lesson for either the lenders or the hacked person(real bitmarket.io).

@QS, although the bitmarket.io account was used for these scams and everyone should be responsible for their own account security i don't think the real owner of bitmarket.io should have to repay these loans if he can prove 100% that his account was hacked and someone requested these loans.
I say this because if the lenders had done what they should of such as ask for a signed message from an old posted address then this would never had happened.

I'm still not sure myself which way this should go yet so i am watching closely.

[mammabitcoin2u]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

Right, but you know that the scam-->"hacked!" scenario is one we've seen over and over here, and it's worn thin. Not straight up calling you a liar, but it's definitely suspicious.  People who've been trusted here have done this.

Wallet BTC funds went into belongs to Bwalletet.io

Any proof of this? I used blocktrail to see if the address was mentioned on this forum before, and it hasn't. (Running a bctalkaccountpricer.info right now). The address isn't spend linked to any addresses as well.

I'll quote this and respond to other points too. As I'm not one to get side talked, led in different direction.


1) I didn't use this forum to dig all my info, but, this forum was the start. If you are good at looking then due a little diligence and out of box thinking of only this forum or posted address/wallet. I'll may send u a pm as now I'm on my phone

2) 150 total scam NOT 75 1 user took from 2 people although this is 1 per accusations thread I see the total scam of 150.

3) Reputation name trust etc? Doesn't mean too much when accounts are bought n sold. How many alts. Fake feedback. The time a scammer puts into a scam I've seen from 15 minutes to months/one buck to thousands around here. And ya I'm new to this forum and BTC. BUT I wasn't born last night. Save that argument. All the rep trust etc does is makes things EASIER to relax a little versus Red/newbie.

4) BOTH Lenders no signed message? Believe I have a hard time with this too. I don't think they deserve to get scammed (no one does). It be nice if they got their BTC back. File Scam Accusation and lesson learned.  Sorry you got scammed thanks for the warning.

5) Past style n activity read the postings yourself. I don't have the time or capability to do that now. His scarasm n comments same as the PM message for the guy just outright sending BTC. If you're an American you'll understand the lingo. Loan request same style talk. I wonder if he will delete some posts now?

6) I seen this loan thread unravel. Yes, I read that section to see what scams are new today. After this loan he signed off. I'm sure there's an alt be cuz someone was giving notice bout Scam Accusation thread. Then here he comes his hacked account. And here we are.

7) Gonna be defenders and accusers. I'm for neither just the info on a scammer (everyone is free to do as they wish). I like BTC and this forum some are good folks most are not.

The end of this is Red for Bitmaker.io and  2 lenders are out 75ea.

[bitmarket.io]

We will see after admin reviews IP logs.

Why are you doing this man? What are you trying to do mate? I tried to help you lending money with 0% interest, what benefit could i get? nothing, just helping you.people may think that i trade trust but the deals that i make i never ask for feedback.

Please repay 0.164492BTC to my address: 1BeyxTH4JP4TYB1WUmu1XvPYhw6QTbep4L

Seriously buddy I am not doing this to you. I noticed I started sending/receiving weird PMs about some loans and I thought it was some glitch in the forum displaying other people's PMs but after a deeper look I noticed someone was using my account at the same time. I quickly changed my password. I'm not sure if they guessed my password or hijacked my session or what happened. I'm very upset this happened to my account and want to clear it immediately. The people here that know me best like Blazed and michali1 and several others can tell you I am not the type who would ask for loans under $100. Just out of character.

Anyway if you sent your coins they're pretty much gone.

[ThirstyMoon]

First time posting about this outside the loan thread.

Technically I sent the first of the two loans. It wasn't unasked, bitmarket.io sent me a message that he still needed it. Of course, I know all loans should be public, but I was wrong to trust a person who was in hindsight asking multiple people simultaneously for the same loan.

Secondly, I'm not totally new to lending, anyone can check my post history and Trust page.

To bitmarket.io, your last post makes me think you really don't give a damn about your account. If you have it from 2013, how can you possibly think there's a glitch and you receive other people's messages? Seriously? Both me and traderbit sent to your account 75$.

Of course our coins are gone, that's how coins work. If you are so careless with your account, I'll at least know I payed 75$ to show that you're a really irresponsible person and people shouldn't deal with you.

[Quickseller]

@QS, although the bitmarket.io account was used for these scams and everyone should be responsible for their own account security i don't think the real owner of bitmarket.io should have to repay these loans if he can prove 100% that his account was hacked and someone requested these loans.
I say this because if the lenders had done what they should of such as ask for a signed message from an old posted address then this would never had happened.

It is impossible to prove that the account was hacked and it is impossible to prove that it was someone else that requested the loans. Even if a different IP address was used then it would be possible that the "real" bitmarket.io was using a VPN/tor/was connecting to the forum via that IP address via other means. Even if the btc was sent to an address specifically linked to someone else that does not mean that bitmarket.io did not receive the money via some other means. I am not necessarily saying that either of these is true, however I am just pointing out that it is not possible to prove that an account was actually hacked.

Yes it is a good practice to get a signed message from someone prior to sending a loan (or sending first as part of a trade) because someone who does not receive any economic benefit from a loan (or a trade) is much less likely to keep their end of the deal, especially if the amount they need to cover is so large that they cannot easily afford to cover the losses (although this is not the case in this situation as bitmarket.io is currently attempting to sell a casascius coin loaded with 10 BTC worth of digital value).

At the end of the day each of the lenders relied upon bitmarket.io's reputation and trust when they decided to collectively send him the $150. If I am trading with someone and I provide an incorrect address to send to and/or otherwise do not receive money due to my own fault then I will need to cover those losses, and the same is true for anyone else who wishes to maintain a positive reputation. If bitmarket.io is not going to cover the losses, then his reputation should be reflected as much.

If bitmarket.io had a very strong reputation of always (with no exceptions) signing addresses that he was requesting payment to and/or always requesting payment to a specific address then I might feel a little different about the situation, however this is not the case.

[traderbit]

My account was hacked. Either the hacker knew my password and logged in or hijacked my session. Either way I have changed my password an hour ago. I'm working on getting this resolved.

I'm sorry for the victim here. I doubt you will recover your funds.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

Right, but you know that the scam-->"hacked!" scenario is one we've seen over and over here, and it's worn thin. Not straight up calling you a liar, but it's definitely suspicious.  People who've been trusted here have done this.

Saved me a little writing ditto above. I'll say what others won't.  This is another piss poor half assed scam. Here's why:

Bitmarket.io's loan request is same writing style. Account activity same.
Wallet BTC funds went into belongs to Bitmarket.io
Does Bitmaker.io claim his wallet hacked as well?
Request made. Funds sent. Wondering what to do with a double send and goes offline (takes half n hour pondering and decides I'll say someone hacked my account. Transfers funds to new wallet. Sees postings about to tag Red and comes on to say Hacked? )

Give me some credit. A hacker isn't gonna wait 30 min to move funds; let alone move it to a New wallet and leave it there. Smarter scammers put it through a series now I've taught you something for next time.

Acting as if you wouldn't ask for something so small is nothing more than added fodder.

Inside job/scam.  Another pos on this forum

I would like to know if this info is 100% true how you conclude this?

We will see after admin reviews IP logs.

Why are you doing this man? What are you trying to do mate? I tried to help you lending money with 0% interest, what benefit could i get? nothing, just helping you.people may think that i trade trust but the deals that i make i never ask for feedback.

Please repay 0.164492BTC to my address: 1BeyxTH4JP4TYB1WUmu1XvPYhw6QTbep4L

Seriously buddy I am not doing this to you. I noticed I started sending/receiving weird PMs about some loans and I thought it was some glitch in the forum displaying other people's PMs but after a deeper look I noticed someone was using my account at the same time. I quickly changed my password. I'm not sure if they guessed my password or hijacked my session or what happened. I'm very upset this happened to my account and want to clear it immediately. The people here that know me best like Blazed and michali1 and several others can tell you I am not the type who would ask for loans under $100. Just out of character.

Anyway if you sent your coins they're pretty much gone.

If you are the real owner of the account you should carry about your trust and reputation here if you want to continue dealing with other members, i was stupid sending the loan without verifiying any bitcoin address or requiring a signed message.
Can you sign a message that you got your account back?

[BitcoinAccepted]

Just to throw it out there.

I've been on here since 2013 - Bitmarket.IO has always come across as straight down the line in all of his posts.

The mans sat on more physical Bitcoin than most of us will ever see in our lifetime, long list of positive trading history and I've never seen him in the lending section - for $75? He's got coins for sale at the moment for $8000.

Why would he risk his reputation for a few dollars - it Just doesn't add up.

I'm prepared to be proved wrong but my spider senses tell me he hasn't done shit.

[Justin00]

I think that before giving out a BTC to another user, is always better to have the proof of his identity by a signed message on old staked address or simply by other ways used in past (so for example phone, skype, mail ect). All  accounte here should be hacked and using a due diligence is always  the best way .

[BitcoinAccepted]

"I am short a little under $75 on a purchase I would like to make, will be able to buy more btc from coinbase instantly tonight, if you want to do this let me know.
If interested, send me the $75 to: 183WRNcWtfWq46u1VvcXRSTeooBo6jFNUH
And send me a pm, and I'll repay the $85 to the exact same address that sends me the money when I am available to purchase the btc (should be tonight, less then 24 hours.)
Thanks."

Just to add - Bitmarket doesn't say thanks for anything - its not his style. Run a search of his 1400+ posts and the word 'thanks' - I count 1 occasion he uses the word "thanks" a couple of years back on a post where someone gave him some advice.

In his dealings / sales of coins / comments etc the man doesn't say thanks. So maybe he needs to work on his manners or something but when I read that post the first thing that stood out was the word 'thanks'

[cryptoheadd]

bitmarket.io is online and watching this thread:



P.S I think that i should contact those that have left positive feedback to bitmarket.io and maybe they can help me to reach the real owner of the account(if it is hacked).

Sorry about the scam.
If you don't mind me asking, how do we check the "Who's online" page?

[Michail1]

If you don't mind me asking, how do we check the "Who's online" page?

Took me a while to find it as well....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=who

[Lutpin]

All  accounte here should be hacked and using a due diligence is always  the best way .

True words, my brother, true words.
(I hope your english teacher is proud right now.)

Why would he risk his reputation for a few dollars - it Just doesn't add up.

That's what he currently is doing though.
Not saying that there isn't some blame with the two lenders aswell (there is IMO),
but at the end of the day, "his reputation" comes down to whether or not he is willing to repay the damage done with his account.

[Bettwarm]

All  accounte here should be hacked and using a due diligence is always  the best way .

True words, my brother, true words.
(I hope your english teacher is proud right now.)

Haha, so funny!  

Why would he risk his reputation for a few dollars - it Just doesn't add up.

That's what he currently is doing though.
Not saying that there isn't some blame with the two lenders aswell (there is IMO),
but at the end of the day, "his reputation" comes down to whether or not he is willing to repay the damage done with his account.

I think $150 scam is prety much for his account, because people do one trade and the user gets positive trust.
I think it is too easy obtained, so that is why he got profit of his account this way. I think it all makes sense.

[Michail1]

I think $150 scam is prety much for his account, because people do one trade and the user gets positive trust.
I think it is too easy obtained, so that is why he got profit of his account this way. I think it all makes sense.

Uhh, what?
I am surprised you think $150 is a lot of money knowing he is selling an $7k coin and has history with not only bitcointalk, but with trading on IRC as well.

Your statement implies that he is a new user that just setup shop to scam someone for $75. - Ummm, his account is nearly 3 years old.
This is an old enough account to attract many scammers.  If you look at a search of similar users, you can see those being created...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=386566
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=482768
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=508040
and many others.

I am not saying the two people scammed for bitcoin are wrong.  Had I seen the lending thread request, I would have also likely had fallen for it.  Knowing his reputation and for such a small amount, I would have gladly have sent.  It's simply not worth my time to go through all the possible verification to make sure it was him without a doubt.

Also funny are the comments made that he logged off after recovering the account.  Bitcoin may be 24 hours a day, but I sleep at night like most people as well.

[traderbit]

Just to throw it out there.

I've been on here since 2013 - Bitmarket.IO has always come across as straight down the line in all of his posts.

The mans sat on more physical Bitcoin than most of us will ever see in our lifetime, long list of positive trading history and I've never seen him in the lending section - for $75? He's got coins for sale at the moment for $8000.

Why would he risk his reputation for a few dollars - it Just doesn't add up.

I'm prepared to be proved wrong but my spider senses tell me he hasn't done shit.

That's why i trusted him firstly by sending the money and forgot to require signed message.

Sorry about the scam.
If you don't mind me asking, how do we check the "Who's online" page?

I have got few PMs asking me for this, here is the link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=who and you can search through the pages.

Uhh, what?
I am surprised you think $150 is a lot of money knowing he is selling an $7k coin and has history with not only bitcointalk, but with trading on IRC as well.

How can i contact the real bitmarket.io through IRC? or any other source?

[owlcatz]

I think he means he probably used to trade coins on IRC here, https://bitcoin-otc.com/ .

[Bettwarm]

I think that this situation is still weird. Two "hacks" as of now, is it the same hacker?
How is this actually possible for your account to get hacked. People with high trust should have high securtiy password and be fooled so easly(phising). Any updates?

[Zyro]

I think that this situation is still weird. Two "hacks" as of now, is it the same hacker?
How is this actually possible for your account to get hacked. People with high trust should have high securtiy password and be fooled so easly(phising). Any updates?

Would be great to know exactly how these hacks happened.  course might not be possible to know for sure.

[traderbit]

I think that this situation is still weird. Two "hacks" as of now, is it the same hacker?
How is this actually possible for your account to get hacked. People with high trust should have high securtiy password and be fooled so easly(phising). Any updates?

Would be great to know exactly how these hacks happened.  course might not be possible to know for sure.

I believe that these accounts were hacked a little while before and acted like nothing happened and starting the scamming after a while. There were some phishing links, similar to bitcointalk link, and many any altcoin wallet had malware.

[Michail1]

I think that this situation is still weird. Two "hacks" as of now, is it the same hacker?
How is this actually possible for your account to get hacked. People with high trust should have high securtiy password and be fooled so easly(phising). Any updates?

What two hacks?  The claim is that it was a single hack (not necessarily a hack but that his password was leaked - either by bct, or keylogger, or another hacked site that he uses the same pw on).
- Single hack/phish of the account.

High Trust with high security?  Ha.  BCT isn't a high security site.  2FA would be nice, but doesn't exist.

Hackers/Scammers try all the time.  In fact, I had a spoofed number (ATT) calling me regarding my billing dispute (of which I don't have), and the Indian wanted me to confirm my account with my mothers maiden name.  I said, "You called me, I don't need to verify it."   He hung up.   The idiot then started texting me and hour later from a 305 area code as if he was my son (whom was sitting in front of me watching TV) and asking me where my parents met, pets first name, name of a high school I attended, etc etc for a report he was doing in school.  Yup, I answered every question he asked and hoped he did well on his report.  Of course, he might not get a good grade when he reports my parents met in Saturn and I graduated in 1942 from Nacho High in New Mexico.  (Obviously my parents were aliens and I was eating Mexican food when he was texting me while my real son was playing 1942 on the arcade system).

He was asking specific security questions used for my email.

PS.  My favorite part was when asking my mothers maiden name, I said it was the same since they were cousins, so she didn't have to change her name.
Also, he signed a message as my son with a name, but it wasn't my sons name.  It was the name I used a decade ago when I signed up for xbox live and later Steam.

There are others that have confirmed the phone number used as attempts at them have been made.  It's obviously bitcoin related.

Sorry, guess I should have started another thread.

Wasn't the BCT DB once hacked/downloaded and they required everyone to change their password once already?

[Bettwarm]

I think that this situation is still weird. Two "hacks" as of now, is it the same hacker?
How is this actually possible for your account to get hacked. People with high trust should have high securtiy password and be fooled so easly(phising). Any updates?

What two hacks?  The claim is that it was a single hack (not necessarily a hack but that his password was leaked - either by bct, or keylogger, or another hacked site that he uses the same pw on).
- Single hack/phish of the account.

High Trust with high security?  Ha.  BCT isn't a high security site.  2FA would be nice, but doesn't exist.

Hackers/Scammers try all the time.  In fact, I had a spoofed number (ATT) calling me regarding my billing dispute (of which I don't have), and the Indian wanted me to confirm my account with my mothers maiden name.  I said, "You called me, I don't need to verify it."   He hung up.   The idiot then started texting me and hour later from a 305 area code as if he was my son (whom was sitting in front of me watching TV) and asking me where my parents met, pets first name, name of a high school I attended, etc etc for a report he was doing in school.  Yup, I answered every question he asked and hoped he did well on his report.  Of course, he might not get a good grade when he reports my parents met in Saturn and I graduated in 1942 from Nacho High in New Mexico.  (Obviously my parents were aliens and I was eating Mexican food when he was texting me while my real son was playing 1942 on the arcade system).

He was asking specific security questions used for my email.

PS.  My favorite part was when asking my mothers maiden name, I said it was the same since they were cousins, so she didn't have to change her name.
Also, he signed a message as my son with a name, but it wasn't my sons name.  It was the name I used a decade ago when I signed up for xbox live and later Steam.

There are others that have confirmed the phone number used as attempts at them have been made.  It's obviously bitcoin related.

Sorry, guess I should have started another thread.

Wasn't the BCT DB once hacked/downloaded and they required everyone to change their password once already?

That is obvious if someone calls u and asks those things. Those are typical security questions.
Bitcointalk was hacked once, mayby the DB was sold and now they actually try to login into a few accounts, but I think many people have changed password. Was Satoshi's account not hacked also then?

[traderbit]

...
That is obvious if someone calls u and asks those things. Those are typical security questions.
Bitcointalk was hacked once, mayby the DB was sold and now they actually try to login into a few accounts, but I think many people have changed password. Was Satoshi's account not hacked also then?

I don't have access to see when was the last time that bitmarket.io changed the password maybe mods or theymos can check it.
P.S resetting the password through security question will lock your account.

[theymos]

The PM quoted by traderbit was legitimately sent by bitmarket.io.

His password changes were:
2016-05-13 21:24:34 Change password
2015-09-10 15:29:41 Reset via email
2015-05-25 14:47:36 Change password

All three were done by the same IP, so it seems that his account was never taken over by anyone. I suppose it's possible that some malware on his computer stole his cookie or something. I can't find any evidence confirming or contradicting whether he sent that PM specifically.

[ThirstyMoon]

Here's the message he sent me on May 13th:

Hey, if you still need the 75$ loan, I can send it to you.

Regards.

Hi, I haven't got it yet. That would be great.

Thank you.

Tough luck he chose to scam us for such a low amount. Wouldn't suspect a Hero member to go this low.

[Michail1]

Here's the message he sent me on May 13th:

Hey, if you still need the 75$ loan, I can send it to you.

Regards.

Hi, I haven't got it yet. That would be great.

Thank you.

Tough luck he chose to scam us for such a low amount. Wouldn't suspect a Hero member to go this low.

Did you read something into Theymos's statement that no one else can see.
He simply said the password was changed from the same IP the password was change from last year.

He did NOT say that account was or wasn't logged into from another IP address.
He did NOT say that several attempts were made on the account or not.
And, that's also not to say that malware / JRAT wasn't installed on his machine although less likely since he was, what appears to be, on at the same time as the 'hacker'.

It would have been in bitmarket.io's benefit had theymos said the account was logged into via diff browser sessions and/or types and/or IPs.

The only thing the statement (from theymos) confirms is that the password was changed once (after the loan(s)) since last year.

That said, I think bitmarket should have paid off the stupid $150 just to save face to blow the issue away (his fault or not).

[ThirstyMoon]

My English comprehension skills are just fine, thanks.

As theymos was the only one who might have given us a straight answer for what might have happened with the account, his evidence is inconclusive. Which doesn't prove either or.

All the replies given in this thread by bitmarket.io include stuff like: your money is lost, "fuck you" and i thought I receive other people's messages.

I know Trusted on sites like this doesn't imply a person is a good human being, but the way bitmarket.io handles this situation (or the lack of effort for it), makes me want to not let him loose that easily.

To Michail1, if theymos has any way of gathering data on all the points you noted he did NOT mention, I would be really grateful to him if he does share it with us. Otherwise what you wrote is no less speculation than what I suspect to have happened.

[traderbit]

The PM quoted by traderbit was legitimately sent by bitmarket.io.

His password changes were:
2016-05-13 21:24:34 Change password
2015-09-10 15:29:41 Reset via email
2015-05-25 14:47:36 Change password

All three were done by the same IP, so it seems that his account was never taken over by anyone. I suppose it's possible that some malware on his computer stole his cookie or something. I can't find any evidence confirming or contradicting whether he sent that PM specifically.

Thanks for clarifying this theymos, i was really surprised by him, when i sent him the money he replied to me like "dafuq" and i was surprised.
Quickseller got the scammer account on his deal (loan), but this  does not apply to me right? I can't get his account because was not on the deal?

[Michail1]

My English comprehension skills are just fine, thanks.

As theymos was the only one who might have given us a straight answer for what might have happened with the account, his evidence is inconclusive. Which doesn't prove either or.

All the replies given in this thread by bitmarket.io include stuff like: your money is lost, "fuck you" and i thought I receive other people's messages.

I know Trusted on sites like this doesn't imply a person is a good human being, but the way bitmarket.io handles this situation (or the lack of effort for it), makes me want to not let him loose that easily.

To Michail1, if theymos has any way of gathering data on all the points you noted he did NOT mention, I would be really grateful to him if he does share it with us. Otherwise what you wrote is no less speculation than what I suspect to have happened.

I agree with everything you said.

It is obvious the site tracks IP use as has been shown many times in the past.  It could have been easily shown that the account was being used by two ips at the same time, but instead only shown that the password was changed which everyone already knew by the screen shot of whosonline.  Theymos clearly has more information than what he indicated; however, in his defense, I don't recall anyone asking for it either.

[Quickseller]

I would interpret theymos's statement on the matter to say that the IP address/browser fingerprint of the person who created the lending thread in question was different from the IP address/browser that bitmarket.io usually uses. I would also interpret his statement to say that the IP address/browser fingerprint combination to not match any known forum user (and/or previously known hacker).

If you were to assume the above is true, then it would not show that someone besides the "real" bitmarket.io was the one who posted asking for the loan, nor does it mean that his account was in fact not hacked.

I would still say that, regardless of conclusive evidence of a hacking, that bitmarket.io should repay the loans that were taken out in his name, as the lenders relied upon his reputation when they gave the loan and it is bitmarket.io's responsibility to maintain the security of his account. The only way that I would excuse this would be if the forum was hacked, and as a direct result of this, someone was able to post from bitmarket.io's account, however I have not seen any evidence to back this up.

[Michail1]

I would interpret theymos's statement on the matter to say that the IP address/browser fingerprint of the person who created the lending thread in question was different from the IP address/browser that bitmarket.io usually uses. I would also interpret his statement to say that the IP address/browser fingerprint combination to not match any known forum user (and/or previously known hacker).

If you were to assume the above is true, then it would not show that someone besides the "real" bitmarket.io was the one who posted asking for the loan, nor does it mean that his account was in fact not hacked.

I would still say that, regardless of conclusive evidence of a hacking, that bitmarket.io should repay the loans that were taken out in his name, as the lenders relied upon his reputation when they gave the loan and it is bitmarket.io's responsibility to maintain the security of his account. The only way that I would excuse this would be if the forum was hacked, and as a direct result of this, someone was able to post from bitmarket.io's account, however I have not seen any evidence to back this up.

I see it differently.

theymos did not say the use of the account was from or from not an IP.  You can't interpret anything other than the fact he said the password was changed from the same IP on a prior password change.  There was never a claim that the hacker changed the password.  The claim was that the hacker was using the account at the same time as him and theymos didn't even touch on the subject of login IP's.  In the idea of the session id being use, theymos also didn't touch on the subject of IPs used for posts or PMs or even is the site tracks this information.

At this point, we can only confirm that the site tracks IPs of password changes based on what he said.

I am not saying bitmarket did or didn't do this.  I am only saying that the Theymos response leaves much of this open.

[Quickseller]

I would interpret theymos's statement on the matter to say that the IP address/browser fingerprint of the person who created the lending thread in question was different from the IP address/browser that bitmarket.io usually uses. I would also interpret his statement to say that the IP address/browser fingerprint combination to not match any known forum user (and/or previously known hacker).

If you were to assume the above is true, then it would not show that someone besides the "real" bitmarket.io was the one who posted asking for the loan, nor does it mean that his account was in fact not hacked.

I would still say that, regardless of conclusive evidence of a hacking, that bitmarket.io should repay the loans that were taken out in his name, as the lenders relied upon his reputation when they gave the loan and it is bitmarket.io's responsibility to maintain the security of his account. The only way that I would excuse this would be if the forum was hacked, and as a direct result of this, someone was able to post from bitmarket.io's account, however I have not seen any evidence to back this up.

I see it differently.

theymos did not say the use of the account was from or from not an IP.  You can't interpret anything other than the fact he said the password was changed from the same IP on a prior password change.  There was never a claim that the hacker changed the password.  The claim was that the hacker was using the account at the same time as him and theymos didn't even touch on the subject of login IP's.  In the idea of the session id being use, theymos also didn't touch on the subject of IPs used for posts or PMs or even is the site tracks this information.

At this point, we can only confirm that the site tracks IPs of password changes based on what he said.

I am not saying bitmarket did or didn't do this.  I am only saying that the Theymos response leaves much of this open.

I can say for a fact that the forum tracks IP addresses, and that the administrators can track you even if you are using tor.

I am not 100% sure about the forum tracking the IP address when a PM is sent nor am I sure about logging in to your account. There is a "privacy policy" (somewhat) posted here.

The reason for my conclusion was that theymos said that he has not seen conclusive evidence that bitmarket.io's account was hacked one way or another:

I can't find any evidence confirming or contradicting whether he sent that PM specifically.

[Michail1]

I can say for a fact that the forum tracks IP addresses, and that the administrators can track you even if you are using tor.

I am not 100% sure about the forum tracking the IP address when a PM is sent nor am I sure about logging in to your account. There is a "privacy policy" (somewhat) posted here.

The reason for my conclusion was that theymos said that he has not seen conclusive evidence that bitmarket.io's account was hacked one way or another:

I can't find any evidence confirming or contradicting whether he sent that PM specifically.

I think we are in agreement on that. 

And, who knows, it could very well be him all along.  Meh.  I'm done with it.   Would like to get the 10BTC silver w/ Gold coin though.  (unsub)

[CoinSiteDesigner]

Woot, finally I found this. My curiosity brought me here.

Seems like the issue is not resolved yet. Posting so to keep myself subscribed to this thread. Let's see where it goes.

We will see after admin reviews IP logs.

Being a new member to this forum, I know that admins are too busy to check your account for IP logs or it's agains't their privacy policy?

You're a hero member and I'm sure you too are aware of it.

Anyone that knows me knows that I never asked for money/loans and never will, especially one so small, which makes no sense.

It's not the same with everyone, it maybe less to you but not the people who offered the loan to your account. If you think that is so small, you can just pay them and solve the issue here right?

That so called small amount is nothing if has to be compared with the negativity you're receiving.

[ChasingCarsEU]

Who cares if he'd scam for a measly $75 or not ?

Unless he repays the $75 it's all his fault. It's your fault for getting your account hacked and you should either pay them back or get your account exiled. Makes no sense or else we'll all start getting hacked soon.

[CoinSiteDesigner]

Who cares if he'd scam for a measly $75 or not ?

Unless he repays the $75 it's all his fault. It's your fault for getting your account hacked and you should either pay them back or get your account exiled. Makes no sense or else we'll all start getting hacked soon.

That's right.

Also, getting hacked is a newbie's thing. When you're a hero member, you won't be that dumb to get your account hacked and wait until the so called hacker is already making posts asking for loans and discussing in PM without even changing the password.

Then what stopped you from stopping him? Right?

[lolxxxx]

Hi there guys i guess i have found something maybe it will be helpful .
The address posted by bitmarket.io in his lending thread was this :    183WRNcWtfWq46u1VvcXRSTeooBo6jFNUH right ?

I found that the wallet by which the scammer created the address have 3 other addresses - i am writing that addresses to you guys check the other ones too .

1:  1CneWwNBsvkqVVFLgVHuiUJPmeHb4UwGcN   


2;  183WRNcWtfWq46u1VvcXRSTeooBo6jFNUH

   
3:   13w7hrkoKeCpNh2jVxKuar3sPYKzLnnTPH   


4:  1KyYyxYPrhJgFNcp3gwR6ZhNFUy9uvKnZ2   

All above addresses are from same wallet . So it means that the owner of 183WRNcWtfWq46u1VvcXRSTeooBo6jFNUH is the owner of all the above addresses.

[ThirstyMoon]

I'd like to formally ask Theymos to give additional information on what/how this might have happened in order to declare guilty/not guilty the culprit with relative certainty.

bitmarket.io is currently online and has made a thread looking for a Python developer. I'm sure if he has funds to hire a guy, he has funds to pay off what he owes.

I'm currently suffering because of this situation, because now is the time for me to pay the heating bills which are significant this year.

This is not the right place to formally propose this, but if the admins don't really take initiative/don't have resources and time to give the appropriate amount of attention to every scam made, why not make a fund (contributed by donations, signature campaigns, a small part of ad revenue, a small percentage of the scammed amount if recovered, whatever) with which a designated person will be payed for handling scams? Just a thought, if anyone is interested in this, I can make a more detailed plan.

[traderbit]

Guys I want to update this thread that bitmarket.io has send the funds to me and accidentally he sent the funds twice to me and I'm worried about ThirstyMoon if he got the funds too so I can sent back the rest to bitmarket.io or if he hasn't received anything from him I consider that I should send the funds to ThirstyMoon !?

ThirstyMoon I have sent you a PM check it!

[bitmarket.io]

I only sent funds to you. Didn't send anything to thirsty. Use the funds I sent you to cover his loss as well.



I want everyone scammed to get their funds back so I can bring my account back in good standing. I'm paying out of my pocket for his.

I'd also like to know how the hell my account was hacked. I had a good password. I'm guessing it was DNS poisoning.

I suggest everyone to be extremely careful when trading on this forum and not to rush anything.

[ThirstyMoon]

Guys I want to update this thread that bitmarket.io has send the funds to me and accidentally he sent the funds twice to me and I'm worried about ThirstyMoon if he got the funds too so I can sent back the rest to bitmarket.io or if he hasn't received anything from him I consider that I should send the funds to ThirstyMoon !?

ThirstyMoon I have sent you a PM check it!

Haven't received anything yet. Please, send them to me whenever you can at this address: 3EXSuK43r5dtL3nP32cwmtnXM3hCZLzSjL

[Palodar]

I only sent funds to you. Didn't send anything to thirsty. Use the funds I sent you to cover his loss as well.



I want everyone scammed to get their funds back so I can bring my account back in good standing. I'm paying out of my pocket for his.

I'd also like to know how the hell my account was hacked. I had a good password. I'm guessing it was DNS poisoning.

I suggest everyone to be extremely careful when trading on this forum and not to rush anything.

lol. don't explain too much. just pay to your debts because it still your account responsibility. post here your TX screen shot so that this case will be closed.
i know that you're legendary account is not worth for 150$ that's why you are going to pay them. hahaha. goodluck

[yulluxy]

I do hope that traderbit didn't decide to run away with the funds: https://blockchain.info/address/1BeyxTH4JP4TYB1WUmu1XvPYhw6QTbep4L

The address has already moved the double payment to other addresses. Has thirstymoon got paid yet?

[ThirstyMoon]

Haven't received the funds, because traderbit hasn't been online since before I replied/messaged him.

I want to stress that traderbit contacted me when he received the repayment of my loan by mistake (before posting on this thread). He could've just ran away without notifying anyone. It wasn't his responsibility to handle my part of the funds in the first place.

Lastly, please, don't bump this thread without a valid reason until traderbit shows up.

[bitmarket.io]

I've been in touch with him for the last week and it did take him time to respond and did notice he isn't online often.

But who knows he could be so poor that 0.16btc is a fortune to him and he ran off. Lets see what happens in another day or two.

[Fortify]

Oh the irony, someone who complained about getting scammed turning into a scammer. It could easily have been avoided if you were more careful where you were sending funds. Maybe traderbit deserves a negative reputation until he comes back and sorts this mess out.

[bitmarket.io]

I think he'll send it. No rush for negative feedback. It's only about $100. Not worth ruining your rep for $100. Just like I never would ruin my rep for $100 which is nothing in the long run. I have plans for bitmarket.io.

I also blame coinbase and their new stupid verification process when sending for the double transaction.

[traderbit]

I only sent funds to you. Didn't send anything to thirsty. Use the funds I sent you to cover his loss as well.



I want everyone scammed to get their funds back so I can bring my account back in good standing. I'm paying out of my pocket for his.

I'd also like to know how the hell my account was hacked. I had a good password. I'm guessing it was DNS poisoning.

I suggest everyone to be extremely careful when trading on this forum and not to rush anything.

I will send now the funds to thirstymoon.

I do hope that traderbit didn't decide to run away with the funds: https://blockchain.info/address/1BeyxTH4JP4TYB1WUmu1XvPYhw6QTbep4L

The address has already moved the double payment to other addresses. Has thirstymoon got paid yet?

Get the f* out of this thread please.

Haven't received the funds, because traderbit hasn't been online since before I replied/messaged him.

I want to stress that traderbit contacted me when he received the repayment of my loan by mistake (before posting on this thread). He could've just ran away without notifying anyone. It wasn't his responsibility to handle my part of the funds in the first place.

Lastly, please, don't bump this thread without a valid reason until traderbit shows up.

Because I worry about you I haven't sent back the funds to bitmarket.io, and asked him if he has sent any funds to you and he didn't know that you were scammed too.

I've been in touch with him for the last week and it did take him time to respond and did notice he isn't online often.

But who knows he could be so poor that 0.16btc is a fortune to him and he ran off. Lets see what happens in another day or two.

I didn't expected to hear this from you, if 0.16btc is a fortune for me then I wouldn't send 'you' the funds without interest and without collateral (neither for trust for those that are hungry), consider that as a help from me.

Oh the irony, someone who complained about getting scammed turning into a scammer. It could easily have been avoided if you were more careful where you were sending funds. Maybe traderbit deserves a negative reputation until he comes back and sorts this mess out.

Get the f* out of this thread please, post somewhere else with you yobit campaign, don't stop here.

I think he'll send it. No rush for negative feedback. It's only about $100. Not worth ruining your rep for $100. Just like I never would ruin my rep for $100 which is nothing in the long run. I have plans for bitmarket.io.

I also blame coinbase and their new stupid verification process when sending for the double transaction.

I'm going to send now the funds to ThirstyMoon as I promised and insisted to pay him before I send you back any funds because I know the feeling of being scammed.

[ThirstyMoon]

traderbit, I replied to your PM. Please, send what is owed to me (0.16366512 BTC) at this address: 3EXSuK43r5dtL3nP32cwmtnXM3hCZLzSjL

Edit: Received repayment. Will wait for a couple of confirmations.
tx id: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/440a8f9d3b1f163050e67a53ed1ebc1d1955da99782fa3fb40ac704c1e5eebc2

Edit 2: The payment has 3 confirmations, my part of the loan has been officially repayed as well.

[traderbit]

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Hash: SHA512

20-Aug-16 I received 2x 0.164492 BTC from bitmarket.io.

Since ThirstyMoon was scammed too, I didn't sent back the funds to bitmarket.io until I received an response from ThirstyMoon and Bitmarket.io that I should send 0.163164 BTC to ThirstyMoon.

0.163164 BTC are sent to ThirstyMoon tx id: https://blockchain.info/tx/440a8f9d3b1f163050e67a53ed1ebc1d1955da99782fa3fb40ac704c1e5eebc2

0.0011488 are the remaining on my balance, Bitmarket.io should tell me what to do with these!
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traderbit, I replied to your PM. Please, send what is owed to me (0.16366512 BTC) at this address: 3EXSuK43r5dtL3nP32cwmtnXM3hCZLzSjL

Edit: Received repayment. Will wait for a couple of confirmations.
tx id: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/440a8f9d3b1f163050e67a53ed1ebc1d1955da99782fa3fb40ac704c1e5eebc2

Thanks for the confirmation, it will get confirmed as I paid a high fee.

[Fortify]

Get the f* out of this thread please, post somewhere else with you yobit campaign, don't stop here.

Oh shut up you hypocrite, you're part of a sig campaign too. You disappeared for two days after receiving an over payment, you could have sent it back straight away as it was clear the debt was trying to be resolved. This whole thread stems from you trying to make a fast buck, not taking collateral on a loan and the original owner having to compensate you to get rid of negative rep.

[ThirstyMoon]

"I am short a little under $75 on a purchase I would like to make, will be able to buy more btc from coinbase instantly tonight, if you want to do this let me know.
If interested, send me the $75 to: 183WRNcWtfWq46u1VvcXRSTeooBo6jFNUH
And send me a pm, and I'll repay the $85 to the exact same address that sends me the money when I am available to purchase the btc (should be tonight, less then 24 hours.)
Thanks."

Just to add - Bitmarket doesn't say thanks for anything - its not his style. Run a search of his 1400+ posts and the word 'thanks' - I count 1 occasion he uses the word "thanks" a couple of years back on a post where someone gave him some advice.

In his dealings / sales of coins / comments etc the man doesn't say thanks. So maybe he needs to work on his manners or something but when I read that post the first thing that stood out was the word 'thanks'

I remembered your post, because your statement basically proved in a way that bitmarket.io's account was hacked. Here's a message from yesterday, written by bitmarket.io:

I think he hasn't been online since I posted/messaged him.

He isn't online all the time.  I sent him coins to cover his loss, but coinbase screwed me and I sent him double. So I told him to send you the coins that you lost.

Once you receive your coins and all checks out could you please update the forum topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1471789.msg15965921) and let them know you received it.

Thanks!

I'd really like to hear your opinion on the matter.

[traderbit]

@bitmarket.io 0.0011488BTC are left from the total balance, can you tell me what to do with these bitcoins because I don't take interest on loans.
Bitmarket.io negative trust has been removed, and I want to thank him because I got my money back even after few months. After clarifying about the left balance I will close this thread.

[bitmarket.io]

@bitmarket.io 0.0011488BTC are left from the total balance, can you tell me what to do with these bitcoins because I don't take interest on loans.
Bitmarket.io negative trust has been removed, and I want to thank him because I got my money back even after few months. After clarifying about the left balance I will close this thread.

Keep it

[traderbit]

@bitmarket.io 0.0011488BTC are left from the total balance, can you tell me what to do with these bitcoins because I don't take interest on loans.
Bitmarket.io negative trust has been removed, and I want to thank him because I got my money back even after few months. After clarifying about the left balance I will close this thread.

Keep it

I will keep it as long as it is as a donation or as a tip because if you or I count this as interest I will immediately send back it to you.
Since this case hopefully has been solved successfully and all parts are happy will be locked. Hope this will never happen again to us.
P.S I see that you changed the password recently (after sending me the funds) hope you will continue your traditional work.
Peace.