Bitmain New Miner S7-LN 2.7T @697W discussion (Not official)

[sidehack]

But the furnace is so boring... no flashing lights at all.

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[carlosmnk]

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@Tupsu: Why do you think this tells us anything about the S9?

My crystal ball says , it is the ancestor of the S9. It will soon be seen.  

S9 will be two blades small miner,  with the possibility of fixing the power supply unit or with cheap CPU on top

Basic Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H) without power supply holder

I don't think the S7 will be only 2 boards, unless each board can drain 600/700w. At this point, a new miner with less than 8 Th/s will be a bit disapointing. When you have 3 or 4 antminer s7 running, you think the antminer s5 is a very small miner, you would need 12 or 16 S5 to do the same hashrate (with a lot more power, of course), and you would need up to 43 antminer s7 to do the same hashrate. I don't belive we will see smaller miners than the s7 from bitmain (and of course, avalon will raise the hashrate of new miners, too). Do you belive it could be a new Antminer S9 with 5.4Th/s and draining 700w? I think it will be greater, draining 1.300w and hashing 8.125 Th/s (0.16w J/Gh)...
But i'm only speculating about it, i really don't know anything about Bitmain...

[bitcoinbarron]

With the current network hash rate and difficulty I cant see them creating smaller miners as they would never be able to achieve ROI.


I want larger, faster, rack mountable units personally. Id rather monitor 1000 large fast machines than 10000 tiny lil S7 style miners :/

I have agree with you here, I would like to see some big industrial rack mount equipment with either a way of plugging PSU's in, (maybe three laying flat above with the cables curving round) or inbuilt PSU's

I however like this 2.7th machine to be honest, when you try and add it to the cart in the UK it just turns into a S7.

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[aarons6]

With the current network hash rate and difficulty I cant see them creating smaller miners as they would never be able to achieve ROI.


I want larger, faster, rack mountable units personally. Id rather monitor 1000 large fast machines than 10000 tiny lil S7 style miners :/

I have agree with you here, I would like to see some big industrial rack mount equipment with either a way of plugging PSU's in, (maybe three laying flat above with the cables curving round) or inbuilt PSU's

I however like this 2.7th machine to be honest, when you try and add it to the cart in the UK it just turns into a S7.

regs

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@Tupsu: Why do you think this tells us anything about the S9?

My crystal ball says , it is the ancestor of the S9. It will soon be seen.  

S9 will be two blades small miner,  with the possibility of fixing the power supply unit or with cheap CPU on top

Basic Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H) without power supply holder

I don't think the S7 will be only 2 boards, unless each board can drain 600/700w. At this point, a new miner with less than 8 Th/s will be a bit disapointing. When you have 3 or 4 antminer s7 running, you think the antminer s5 is a very small miner, you would need 12 or 16 S5 to do the same hashrate (with a lot more power, of course), and you would need up to 43 antminer s7 to do the same hashrate. I don't belive we will see smaller miners than the s7 from bitmain (and of course, avalon will raise the hashrate of new miners, too). Do you belive it could be a new Antminer S9 with 5.4Th/s and draining 700w? I think it will be greater, draining 1.300w and hashing 8.125 Th/s (0.16w J/Gh)...
But i'm only speculating about it, i really don't know anything about Bitmain...

yeah but this is not really sustainable.. you cant just keep getting faster and larger every generation.. pretty soon they will have to start delivering 1ph truck size farms..


smaller more efficient is really the way to go if you want to keep making a profit. hopefully these companies that make the miners realize this and stop making industrial size miners.

[DebitMe]

With the current network hash rate and difficulty I cant see them creating smaller miners as they would never be able to achieve ROI.


I want larger, faster, rack mountable units personally. Id rather monitor 1000 large fast machines than 10000 tiny lil S7 style miners :/

I have agree with you here, I would like to see some big industrial rack mount equipment with either a way of plugging PSU's in, (maybe three laying flat above with the cables curving round) or inbuilt PSU's

I however like this 2.7th machine to be honest, when you try and add it to the cart in the UK it just turns into a S7.

regs

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@Tupsu: Why do you think this tells us anything about the S9?

My crystal ball says , it is the ancestor of the S9. It will soon be seen.  

S9 will be two blades small miner,  with the possibility of fixing the power supply unit or with cheap CPU on top

Basic Dimensions: 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H) without power supply holder

I don't think the S7 will be only 2 boards, unless each board can drain 600/700w. At this point, a new miner with less than 8 Th/s will be a bit disapointing. When you have 3 or 4 antminer s7 running, you think the antminer s5 is a very small miner, you would need 12 or 16 S5 to do the same hashrate (with a lot more power, of course), and you would need up to 43 antminer s7 to do the same hashrate. I don't belive we will see smaller miners than the s7 from bitmain (and of course, avalon will raise the hashrate of new miners, too). Do you belive it could be a new Antminer S9 with 5.4Th/s and draining 700w? I think it will be greater, draining 1.300w and hashing 8.125 Th/s (0.16w J/Gh)...
But i'm only speculating about it, i really don't know anything about Bitmain...

yeah but this is not really sustainable.. you cant just keep getting faster and larger every generation.. pretty soon they will have to start delivering 1ph truck size farms..


smaller more efficient is really the way to go if you want to keep making a profit. hopefully these companies that make the miners realize this and stop making industrial size miners.

That depends on your target market, which is shifting more and more so to large orders that can afford to have multiple 1 PH/s trucks.

[OgNasty]

I think this is a much better idea for ending the life of a chip than the S5+.  The S5+ was targeted at the same buyers who would have purchased the S7 two weeks later.  This S7-LN is targeted at smaller budget miners who most likely won't be purchasing the S9 anyway.  It is a very large step forward from the S5+ disaster and I'm glad to see it.  Having learned my lesson already though, I will wait for the S9 this time around.

[fanatic26]

yeah but this is not really sustainable.. you cant just keep getting faster and larger every generation.. pretty soon they will have to start delivering 1ph truck size farms..

Why exactly can you not get faster and larger? As mining is industrialized that is what needs to happen to keep it growing.

P.S. There are multiple companies that have built and offered to sell tractor trailer sized self contained farms. As a matter of fact Avalon is working on one right now. The only problem is the cooling in such a small enclosed area. You have to use air conditioning which basically destroys the profits.

[Brob12321]

Very interesting I wonder what if anything ever happened with the U4 does anybody know.  When I started mining I started on the U3 and I always have hoped for a U4 but I've heard nothing about it.

The same thing that happened on the S6 and S8 i believe. I don't know if Bitmain plan on doing any other small miners again, but it would be nice. My absolute best IMO is the S3. Some S3 with S9 chips would be sooo nice.

Yeah well it was still cool to mine some btc or some altcoins with the U3. If they used the S7 chips on a U3 type platform I think the hashrate would be pretty high relatively speaking.

[fr4nkthetank]

I think we can all agree on this:  More flashing lights.  Christmas color leds.  Even more leds.  More flashing frequency.  brighter.  faster.  longer.

[adaseb]

I think this is a much better idea for ending the life of a chip than the S5+.  The S5+ was targeted at the same buyers who would have purchased the S7 two weeks later.  This S7-LN is targeted at smaller budget miners who most likely won't be purchasing the S9 anyway.  It is a very large step forward from the S5+ disaster and I'm glad to see it.  Having learned my lesson already though, I will wait for the S9 this time around.

Yeah I remember the nightmare with those S5+ and all the people who really got reamed on that deal, I will hold out for now.

S5+ wasn't that bad. If you had free electricity you would make more money with it than S7.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1477198.0

[sidehack]

Yeah but that's an aslo of free electric.

[crazyearner]

NO way going to ROI on these halving is shortly and no doubt it going to get tough in BTC world. Days have gone when only needed small asic to make a good profit. Corporate business who bulk buy killed the mini miner off or home miner from making a good amount of profit after brake even. Will be interesting to see how the price of BTC goes after few months after halving and how the mining hash goes too.

[toptek]

IF it's real



awesome not really i see why no one really wants it now i don't even think i do @ 300 to 400 USD imo as other said wait: S7 will be the same price if not cheaper, there milking it till they get there new chips ready .

and hit us with a over priced s10 s11 s12 or what ever name they give it and it will sell unless bitfury  does what they said https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1291890.msg14898273#msg14898273 the other day and BW comes thu we should see nicely priced miners again everyone can enjoy.

[adaseb]

https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160421034108161se80ckq8069F

Why post this again? We already know its being sold on the Chinese Bitmain website.

[toptek]

I think we can all agree on this:  More flashing lights.  Christmas color leds.  Even more leds.  More flashing frequency.  brighter.  faster.  longer.

here here i love to see those lights don't know what i do now with out them but yes more lights please on those miners.

[philipma1957]

Waiting for news

[Swimmer63]

Waiting for news

Do you think we will hear anything before the halving on the new miner?  I would think they would wait until the dust settles.
That's why the last (maybe) run of S7's shipping out starting this week.  Just seems like a chaotic time to introduce a new miner.
But I suppose they will sell them regardless of the cost.  I did order one last S7 from this upcoming batch.

[QuestionQuest]

This only open 1000unit to local China. The price is including the postage(local) + PSU 1000W.
....however, from the chinese forum, this model is a joke, local chinese no one willing to buy.

Well, however - I think it is a nice idea for small or low power miner, who just want a small machine.
It the chinese people dont buy it maybe bitmain will sell it worldwide

[Brewins]

The timing of that monstrosity is awful, it is as useful as tits on a boar  - unless it has some newer chips than the 1385

[klondike_bar]

I think that this purchase would be a disaster.

This is S9 design with older S7 chip.

The same disaster, as S5+  before S7.
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Now you have to know the S9 parameters

5.Dimension：306mm（L）*150mm（W）*275mm（H）
6.Cooling：2×12038 Fan





https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160421034108161se80ckq8069F

I dont know why they didnt just come up with a 3-board design using undervolted chips for less heat and better efficiency. I bet a 135-chip design could manage 4.2TH/1kW, which would be pretty compelling.

Including the PSU seems silly in most places where PSUs are readily available in stores. Unless its <$80 for that PSU it not really worth the hassle and shipping costs compared to the local NCIX/tigerdirect.

but i love the top bracket. Id buy just that for my S7 as it looks like a great way to minimize cord clutter from the PSU