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May 17, 2016, 02:13:16 PM
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LIFE after death has been "confirmed" by scientists who have discovered consciousness continues even once a person has died.




In a large scale study of more than 2,000 people, British boffins confirmed that thoughts DO carry on after the heart stops.

The shock research has also uncovered the most convincing evidence of an out of body experience for a patient declared dead.

It had been believed the brain stopped all activity 30 seconds after the heart had stopped pumping blood around the body, and that with that, awareness ceases too.

However, the study from the University of Southampton shows people still experience awareness for up to three minutes after they had been pronounced dead.


Lead researcher Dr Sam Parnia said: "Contrary to perception, death is not a specific moment but a potentially reversible process that occurs after any severe illness or accident causes the heart, lungs and brain to cease functioning.

"If attempts are made to reverse this process, it is referred to as 'cardiac arrest'; however, if these attempts do not succeed it is called ‘death’."

Of the 2,060 patients from Austria, the US and the UK interviewed for the study who had survived cardiac arrest, almost 40 per cent said that they recall some form of awareness after being pronounced clinically dead.

Dr Parnia continued: "This suggests more people may have mental activity initially but then lose their memories after recovery, either due to the effects of brain injury or sedative drugs on memory recall.”


Of those who said they had experienced some awareness, just two per cent said their experience was consistent with the feeling of an outer body experience – where one feels completely aware and can hear and see what’s going on around them after death.

Almost half of the respondents said the experience was not of awareness, but rather of fear.

However, the most significant finding of the study is that of a 57-year old man who is perhaps the first confirmed outer body experience in a patient.


The man was able to recall with eerie accuracy what was going on around him after he had ‘died’ temporarily.

Dr Parnia continued: "This is significant, since it has often been assumed that experiences in relation to death are likely hallucinations or illusions occurring either before the heart stops or after the heart has been successfully restarted, but not an experience corresponding with 'real' events when the heart isn't beating.

"In this case, consciousness and awareness appeared to occur during a three-minute period when there was no heartbeat.


“This is paradoxical, since the brain typically ceases functioning within 20-30 seconds of the heart stopping and doesn't resume again until the heart has been restarted.

“Furthermore, the detailed recollections of visual awareness in this case were consistent with verified events."


http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/670781/There-IS-life-after-DEATH-Scientists-reveal-shock-findings-from-groundbreaking-study



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May 17, 2016, 02:52:46 PM
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There are many documented cases from over the years of people who have been dead as long as 30 minutes or longer, coming back to life with little or no brain damage, to live a full life afterward.

Science is in its infancy regarding what there is to be found out. This wouldn't be so bad, but there are a bunch of theoretical scientists out there who attempt to sell their theories as facts, when it is not known that they are facts. If we could get rid of all this false stuff in science, we might be able to see clearly enough to expand the truth a lot faster.

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May 17, 2016, 03:23:48 PM
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If this study is further and confirmed, many who believe in life after death (as terrorists) will be more motivated in their cause what is bad.

And the religious fanatics will talk more nonsense

In my country, the healer will have more fanatics to join their cause

I do not think this is good news

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Shocked

If this study is further and confirmed, many who believe in life after death (as terrorists) will be more motivated in their cause what is bad.

And the religious fanatics will talk more nonsense

In my country, the healer will have more fanatics to join their cause

I do not think this is good news


Of course it is not good news for Slow death...

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May 17, 2016, 06:37:40 PM
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Have to look into this study and see if I can find a similar study that was debunked recently, this one sounds very similar.
I guess we now need to look into a dying mans eyes longer when we are making sure we are the last thing they ever see!

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May 17, 2016, 06:54:00 PM
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So you neurons are firing longer than they initially thought after your heart stops.

You class that as living?

Seems just like a slightly longer descent into nothingness to me.





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May 17, 2016, 09:03:47 PM
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You can always tell "studies" like these are pushing some kind agenda instead of what real science does, which is looking for the truth whatever it may be.  Instead of explaining the results in a rational way, they immediately jump towards the less likely answer.  People often do this when they just want something to be true...

I can't find my car keys, I bet aliens took them.  What other explanation can there be, it had to be aliens!?!?!?!!?!

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May 17, 2016, 09:36:29 PM
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So the conclusion of the study is that you might last a handful of minutes after your heart stops. I would assume that qualifies as death being postponed ever so slightly. Then your life ends.

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Of course there can be life after "death"
We have material and energy but most important then that, we have conscience!
The conscience is our soul.
The conscience is stored in microtubules.
After "death" It is released in cosmos
The sciences think conscience is flowing in cosmos
The Christians ( and not only) think conscience it returns to Creator.
The materialists ( as atheists or others) think nothing but even that they have conscience.


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The largest ever medical study into near-death and out-of-body experiences has discovered that some awareness may continue even after the brain has shut down completely.

It is a controversial subject which has, until recently, been treated with widespread scepticism.

But scientists at the University of Southampton have spent four years examining more than 2,000 people who suffered cardiac arrests at 15 hospitals in the UK, US and Austria.

And they found that nearly 40 per cent of people who survived described some kind of ‘awareness’ during the time when they were clinically dead before their hearts were restarted.

Is this the same story? It was found to have some massive holes in it,just can not find where they debunked it! Angry

Will keep searching but its odd this study has resurfaced,wonder if its the same study done over or the study from back then.

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May 17, 2016, 10:49:49 PM
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So the conclusion of the study is that you might last a handful of minutes after your heart stops. I would assume that qualifies as death being postponed ever so slightly. Then your life ends.


“This is paradoxical, since the brain typically ceases functioning within 20-30 seconds of the heart stopping and doesn't resume again until the heart has been restarted. "


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Of course there can be life after "death"
We have material and energy but most important then that, we have conscience!
The conscience is our soul.
The conscience is stored in microtubules.
After "death" It is released in cosmos
The sciences think conscience is flowing in cosmos
The Christians ( and not only) think conscience it returns to Creator.
The materialists ( as atheists or others) think nothing but even that they have conscience.





How do you know that?


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Of course there can be life after "death"
We have material and energy but most important then that, we have conscience!
The conscience is our soul.
The conscience is stored in microtubules.
After "death" It is released in cosmos
The sciences think conscience is flowing in cosmos
The Christians ( and not only) think conscience it returns to Creator.
The materialists ( as atheists or others) think nothing but even that they have conscience.





How do you know that?



That's the physicists explanation.
That was an scientific perspective.

From my perspective everything is clear  Wink ( I'm a Orthodox Christian, "low practitioner")
I don't have to prove my existence or my conscience.
Life continues after  material death but not in a material form, that's why many of us don't understand.
Remember that, conscience is our truth, There are stored our sins. That's  our soul.
No one can lie himself (his conscience)
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Let a person die for an hour, see if he/she comes back.

Brain without oxygenated blood will be dead (or severely damaged) within 10 minutes.

Cell death is irreversible.
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Of course there can be life after "death"
We have material and energy but most important then that, we have conscience!
The conscience is our soul.
The conscience is stored in microtubules.
After "death" It is released in cosmos
The sciences think conscience is flowing in cosmos
The Christians ( and not only) think conscience it returns to Creator.
The materialists ( as atheists or others) think nothing but even that they have conscience.





How do you know that?




If you take some quantum view, you might find that consciousness can entangle itself in most everything


Discovery of quantum vibrations in 'microtubules' inside brain neurons supports controversial theory of consciousness

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May 18, 2016, 04:06:54 AM
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Let a person die for an hour, see if he/she comes back.

Brain without oxygenated blood will be dead (or severely damaged) within 10 minutes.

Cell death is irreversible.

The exception I can think of is when someone 'drowns' in very cold water.  Usually a child with low body mass.  I've heard what seem to be fairly credible reports of long-ish periods of 'death' in such circumstances with a reasonable recovery.  I think I heard of a stow-away in a jet aircraft who achieved a similar result.  I'd point out though that someone who would climb into the landing gear of a jet liner probably didn't start out with a very high level of brain function in the first place.


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May 18, 2016, 04:15:43 AM
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Pretty exciting stuff. Hey that just got me thinking, wouldn't it be awesome if the powers that be found a way to trap this consciousness/soul in the real world and use it as a spiritual battery of sorts?? Might not be that great for the person who died though to not be able to break free and find release even after death.
Oh but wait... the dead can't complain.. right babe??   Cheesy
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Not true i should say. i would rather choose not to learn what happen to my BTC after I'm dead. it would put me to hell once i learn my btc goes to someone who bushwacked desktop.
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Let a person die for an hour, see if he/she comes back.

Brain without oxygenated blood will be dead (or severely damaged) within 10 minutes.

Cell death is irreversible.

The exception I can think of is when someone 'drowns' in very cold water.  Usually a child with low body mass.  I've heard what seem to be fairly credible reports of long-ish periods of 'death' in such circumstances with a reasonable recovery.  I think I heard of a stow-away in a jet aircraft who achieved a similar result.  I'd point out though that someone who would climb into the landing gear of a jet liner probably didn't start out with a very high level of brain function in the first place.



If entropy uniformity doesn't change too drastically (e.g. H2O in blood et al. crystallizing and expanding when frozen), all it is is a slowing down of continuing metabolic processes.

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The "Goldilocks" zone. Heh. Question for you guys: do you think if we observed one of those planets where life is just starting, that life would proceed in approximately the same way it theoretically did on Earth? Or would the life be fundamentally different perhaps? Would there be mammals, bacteria, viruses, amphibians, or something else completely? Given the environment is relatively the same.

many factors is on the line if life is ever to start on a planet that is in a Goldilocks zone.
even if the environment is the same to the in the planet in question.

The rate of living on other planets might also drastically be slower[/faster] than we can detect, implying that what we think is the Goldilocks zone is relative.

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