BitBillions GBBG

[John (John K.)]

Why keep this one open at all, btw? Shouldn't it be handled like all the other Mavrodi-Style ponzis/pyramids that frequently pop up here?

Well, there's always this clause:

Warning: Moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Watch out for Ponzi schemes. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose.

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[aussie_striker]

Why keep this one open at all, btw? Shouldn't it be handled like all the other Mavrodi-Style ponzis/pyramids that frequently pop up here?

That would be assuming it was a ponzi which if you look at the compensation plan you would see there is no way it can be.
I am surprised how fast people in here think the worst of something and jump to conclusions without getting the facts first. Maybe that comes from having a lot of bad things come through here before. Maybe BitBillions has made a mistake by using bitcoin as its primary currency. I'm pretty sure they would not have expected such opposition to a company that will bring more publicity to bitcoin.

[aussie_striker]

I'm thinking that the perception and attitudes above will probably remain until July when open registration begins and the products start being released. It is a pity because by that stage the most profitable revenue share pools will be filled. That is not to say it would not be worth joining then, even just for the free products, just that the people already in will get more revenue share.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

This is awesome.  I can't do this but I know two people who would be great at this.  Either one has shown great ability at getting a business started and generating large sales.  Tom in particular has a proven business assembling and marketing PCB designs, while Trendon has run a very successful $15 million Bitcoin investment fund in the past. Give them a call:

Thomas Van Riper
tom@devcoin.org
(315) 514-0269
Prior successful business: https://www.btcfpga.com/

Trendon Shavers
tshavers@buscog.com
(214) 856-4386
Prior successful business: http://btcst.com, http://www.gpumax.com

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[aussie_striker]

This is awesome.  I can't do this but I know two people who would be great at this.  Either one has shown great ability at getting a business started and generating large sales.  Tom in particular has a proven business assembling and marketing PCB designs, while Trendon has run a very successful $15 million Bitcoin investment fund in the past. Give them a call:

Thomas Van Riper
tom@devcoin.org
(315) 514-0269
Prior successful business: https://www.btcfpga.com/

Trendon Shavers
tshavers@buscog.com
(214) 856-4386
Prior successful business: http://btcst.com, http://www.gpumax.com

(Shamelessly stole from sgravina

I'll send them an email, doesn't need to be people great at building business though as people will earn revenue share with just one position, even if they have no referrals.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

This is awesome.  I can't do this but I know two people who would be great at this.  Either one has shown great ability at getting a business started and generating large sales.  Tom in particular has a proven business assembling and marketing PCB designs, while Trendon has run a very successful $15 million Bitcoin investment fund in the past. Give them a call:

Thomas Van Riper
tom@devcoin.org
(315) 514-0269
Prior successful business: https://www.btcfpga.com/

Trendon Shavers
tshavers@buscog.com
(214) 856-4386
Prior successful business: http://btcst.com, http://www.gpumax.com

(Shamelessly stole from sgravina

I'll send them an email, doesn't need to be people great at building business though as people will earn revenue share with just one position, even if they have no referrals.

Glad that you're taking this seriously! They are the people you need for BitBillions to take off.

Have you got in touch with James McCarthy (also known as Nefario) yet? He was a large supporter of businesses like BitBillions, and I feel he will be able to contribute to website development and marketing.

I also suggest purchasing a bulk amount of old and established accounts to promote your business - they're really quite effective as shown here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147631.0

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Do you also need a PR agent? Smoothie is one of the members here that are the most involved in the Bitcoin community, and he can promote BitBillions and answer any questions that will arise. I heard he only takes Litecoins or fruit related drinks as payment through.

[aussie_striker]

Thought this might be relevant to the conversation. It was in an email as the company added GoFundMe as an option to get positions. Members still need to get a bitcoin wallet to receive commissions and revenue share from though as currently that will only be paid in BTC. But the question has been raised above about those donations and some comments seem to think that is what is making it not legit. Here is what it is for ;

Donations will be used to reward developers, pay for technical services that are necessary, and pay for hardware that is necessary. Once development and launch of the core product are complete, any remaining donations will be treated as follows: a) a portion will be held on reserve to cover technical needs, b) a portion will be given back to members through our normal points distribution system, c) a portion will be donated to charity.

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[MPOE-PR]

Why keep this one open at all, btw? Shouldn't it be handled like all the other Mavrodi-Style ponzis/pyramids that frequently pop up here?

I thought it was for the lulz.

[aussie_striker]

Glad that you're taking this seriously! They are the people you need for BitBillions to take off.

Have you got in touch with James McCarthy (also known as Nefario) yet? He was a large supporter of businesses like BitBillions, and I feel he will be able to contribute to website development and marketing.

I also suggest purchasing a bulk amount of old and established accounts to promote your business - they're really quite effective as shown here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147631.0

Now I know you are taking the mickey...there would be no benefit getting old accounts at all and as that thread shows people doing that are usually scammers anyway.

Prior successful business: http://btcst.com, http://www.gpumax.com

Neither of those businesses are online so I'm guessing they are failed businesses.

A quick search shows that James McCarthy was a scammer and as such would never have had interest in something as legitimate as this.

So TradeFortress, you might think you are funny but let's see what you think in about August. Funny thing is by the comments in here it probbaly is those types of people that would end up joining this and making a lot of money legitimately. Then they wouldnt need to do their scams. Still the one thing it looks like they were successful at is getting a lot of people to follow them originally.

I'll put it bluntly, if this was a ponzi here is how it would operate.
1. They wouldn't bother with bitcoin, it is just too hard to get a large amount of people to be able to pay that way. Instead they would try to have as many payment processors available as possible to garnish as much money as possible.
2. They often have a large startup cost, usually in the hundreds or thousands. For the ones that know it will fail fast
3. They often have a large referral commission and possibly several levels of referral commission, usually 50%+. So the people starting brag how much money they made, getting new members in.
4. They have at least a monthly subscription/membership whatever you want to call it. Or something else that people use their earnings to spend them on. So that there is money coming in all the time.
5. The more successful ones usually have a system where you reinvest for commissions, that way they don't pay as much out prolonging the ability to make people think they have made a lot of money which they dont try to withdraw because they think they are making more money.
6. It would be harder to withdraw any commissions, often withdrawals start alright then dry up as the money is not there to pay them.
7. They promote unrealistic returns (like 2% daily or almost any % daily or a large % over a certain amount of days, or you will make $5000 mth in 90 days) without anything showing how they will be able to pay them.
8. They would not have any plan to build anything apart from getting new deposits. This one is more difficult to know as they often will say they are making something (this one you can claim BitBillions are doing, but same with a lot of companies, until they release something to prove otherwise)

As for BitBillions and how they fit in the above.

1. They decided (maybe mistakenly) to go with bitcoins because they see it as something that will be good in the future and has less chance of fraud revenue.
2. There is no startup cost (although there is the donation to become a founder member).
3. They do have a referral commission (this was a decision made to try to increase membership growth, originally they were not going to have any).
4. There is no monthly costs.
5. There is nothing to reinvest in.
6. Referral commission are sent directly to your bitcoin account, you do not have any commissions stuck within the program.
7. The compensation plan clearly shows that any income will be based on the company making money. It states different revenue schemes that will be available, until they start there will not be any revenue share.
8. Revenue will be generated through advertising, premium communication services, payment processing, currency exchanges, sales of books, sales of music, sales of movies, and many other income producing mediums. Members simply earn money by using the FREE technology.
Some of our FREE services will include:
 

• Communication with anyone, anywhere in the world, including unlimited global telephone calling
• Access to the largest database of music, movies, and books on earth
• Global payment processing, currency exchange, and banking with NO FEES
• Much, much more

As mentioned about the donations
Donations will be used to reward developers, pay for technical services that are necessary, and pay for hardware that is necessary. Once development and launch of the core product are complete, any remaining donations will be treated as follows: a) a portion will be held on reserve to cover technical needs, b) a portion will be given back to members through our normal points distribution system, c) a portion will be donated to charity.

So TradeFortress I now know to take anything you say as total rubbish.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Glad that you're taking this seriously! They are the people you need for BitBillions to take off.

Have you got in touch with James McCarthy (also known as Nefario) yet? He was a large supporter of businesses like BitBillions, and I feel he will be able to contribute to website development and marketing.

I also suggest purchasing a bulk amount of old and established accounts to promote your business - they're really quite effective as shown here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147631.0

Now I know you are taking the mickey...there would be no benefit getting old accounts at all and as that thread shows people doing that are usually scammers anyway.

Prior successful business: http://btcst.com, http://www.gpumax.com

Neither of those businesses are online so I'm guessing they are failed businesses.

A quick search shows that James McCarthy was a scammer and as such would never have had interest in something as legitimate as this.

So TradeFortress, you might think you are funny but let's see what you think in about August. Funny thing is by the comments in here it probbaly is those types of people that would end up joining this and making a lot of money legitimately. Then they wouldnt need to do their scams. Still the one thing it looks like they were successful at is getting a lot of people to follow them originally.

I'll put it bluntly, if this was a ponzi here is how it would operate.
1. They wouldn't bother with bitcoin, it is just too hard to get a large amount of people to be able to pay that way. Instead they would try to have as many payment processors available as possible to garnish as much money as possible.
2. They often have a large startup cost, usually in the hundreds or thousands. For the ones that know it will fail fast
3. They often have a large referral commission and possibly several levels of referral commission, usually 50%+. So the people starting brag how much money they made, getting new members in.
4. They have at least a monthly subscription/membership whatever you want to call it. Or something else that people use their earnings to spend them on. So that there is money coming in all the time.
5. The more successful ones usually have a system where you reinvest for commissions, that way they don't pay as much out prolonging the ability to make people think they have made a lot of money which they dont try to withdraw because they think they are making more money.
6. It would be harder to withdraw any commissions, often withdrawals start alright then dry up as the money is not there to pay them.
7. They promote unrealistic returns (like 2% daily or almost any % daily or a large % over a certain amount of days, or you will make $5000 mth in 90 days) without anything showing how they will be able to pay them.
8. They would not have any plan to build anything apart from getting new deposits. This one is more difficult to know as they often will say they are making something (this one you can claim BitBillions are doing, but same with a lot of companies, until they release something to prove otherwise)

As for BitBillions and how they fit in the above.

1. They decided (maybe mistakenly) to go with bitcoins because they see it as something that will be good in the future and has less chance of fraud revenue.
2. There is no startup cost (although there is the donation to become a founder member).
3. They do have a referral commission (this was a decision made to try to increase membership growth, originally they were not going to have any).
4. There is no monthly costs.
5. There is nothing to reinvest in.
6. Referral commission are sent directly to your bitcoin account, you do not have any commissions stuck within the program.
7. The compensation plan clearly shows that any income will be based on the company making money. It states different revenue schemes that will be available, until they start there will not be any revenue share.
8. Revenue will be generated through advertising, premium communication services, payment processing, currency exchanges, sales of books, sales of music, sales of movies, and many other income producing mediums. Members simply earn money by using the FREE technology.
Some of our FREE services will include:
 

• Communication with anyone, anywhere in the world, including unlimited global telephone calling
• Access to the largest database of music, movies, and books on earth
• Global payment processing, currency exchange, and banking with NO FEES
• Much, much more

As mentioned about the donations
Donations will be used to reward developers, pay for technical services that are necessary, and pay for hardware that is necessary. Once development and launch of the core product are complete, any remaining donations will be treated as follows: a) a portion will be held on reserve to cover technical needs, b) a portion will be given back to members through our normal points distribution system, c) a portion will be donated to charity.

So TradeFortress I now know to take anything you say as total rubbish.

Would you like to bet that this is a ponzi / pyramid / scam, pirateat40 style?

[aussie_striker]

Well he is learning.
Slowly but definitely learning !

Next step for you Dave (if you really are not the creator of this web site) : understand why bitcoins is the perfect currency for this type of - whatever you call it - and why you will never see back the bitcoin you gave to them (if you gave it to "them" and "them" are not you)

Good luck !

Well yes I have given them a bitcoin and I also have received more than a bitcoin back from referral commissions, but that is beside the point. I would be interested to know why you think I would not see anything back from them. Might help me understand what peoples fears here are.

[aussie_striker]

Would you like to bet that this is a ponzi / pyramid / scam, pirateat40 style?

Actually I just noticed your signature block. Unbelievable, you will waste money on gambling yet you wont even take a chance on something that is likely to be far more legit than the gambling sites you support.

You want to bet, try betting 1 BTC in this site and if the site is proven to be a scam by August, which is 1 month after it is supposed to launch, hell I'll give you a bitcoin back. I'm betting by then there is a lot more support for it as it will have proven to be more by then.

[aussie_striker]

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[John (John K.)]

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Okay, why don't you just say that you're the operator instead of masquerading as a user? There's been instances like this where the actual operator hides under the guise of a 'user'....

[crazyearner]

am staying away from this one due to the updates they said.


Hello. You recently requested information to obtain a founder membership in GBBG. We wanted to inform you of a major change to our donation process. We have learned many people want a faster process to join GBBG because obtaining bitcoins can take some time. Therefore, we are pleased to announce the following improvements!

In order to complete the development of our technology, and to provide the basic hardware and technical infrastructure for the initial release of the product, we are only accepting the initial 50,000 Founders Membership applications that include a donation.
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My response

Ok so what their saying is people who donate are buying them hardware. Each big unit costs $1,500 per unit shipped to them.  That their will be enough to buy them over 800 units that generate $250 to $300 per day. So here the math on how much they generate a day.

Low side $250x 800 = $200,000 per day.

High Side $300x800 = $240,000 Perday

SO their company make over 6.72 Million per 28 days

50% of that goes to the members so 3 million odd per month.

I can see what is going to happen their but I will save that for later.
___________________________________________________________
Their Response
 Donations will be used to reward developers, pay for technical services that are necessary, and pay for hardware that is necessary. Once development and launch of the core product are complete, any remaining donations will be treated as follows: a) a portion will be held on reserve to cover technical needs, b) a portion will be given back to members through our normal points distribution system, c) a portion will be donated to charity.
___________________________

My Response

As explained above we the members are buying them hardware from our donations that is a crafty way to actually do business. What their  doing in a way is taking our donations to make them rich and that is illegal in some states. However DONATION MEANS YOUR FUCKED IF THE COMPANY RUNS.  They are claiming they will be donating to charity. Then this would actually need proof and legitimate statements of stuff posted and so forth.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

Why don't you put 100 BTC where your mouth is? We can find a suitable escrow, and if you think it's not a scam why wouldn't you take up a free 100 BTC? We'll have to work on a definition of a scam, and I'll want the timeframe to 2 years from bet date.

[aussie_striker]

Referral Rewards Paid
Note, many members have not yet supplied their public key so they can be paid theirs.

Okay, why don't you just say that you're the operator instead of masquerading as a user? There's been instances like this where the actual operator hides under the guise of a 'user'....

Because I am not the operator. Every member can see that same info I posted when they login and click on the Referral Rewards Payment Proof. That's where I got it from. Just under that it has the comment

There are members with unpaid referral rewards because they have not emailed us their public bitcoin address. Look below to see if we have your public bitcoin payment address on file.

Which I didnt post as a quote previously, just said about members hadnt supplied it.

[ElectricMucus]

This gonna be fun, looks like this ponzi is going to be successful.

I congratulate aussie_striker in advance, these people deserve to be scammed.

[aussie_striker]

am staying away from this one due to the updates they said.


Hello. You recently requested information to obtain a founder membership in GBBG. We wanted to inform you of a major change to our donation process. We have learned many people want a faster process to join GBBG because obtaining bitcoins can take some time. Therefore, we are pleased to announce the following improvements!

In order to complete the development of our technology, and to provide the basic hardware and technical infrastructure for the initial release of the product, we are only accepting the initial 50,000 Founders Membership applications that include a donation.
____________________________________________________

My response

Ok so what their saying is people who donate are buying them hardware. Each big unit costs $1,500 per unit shipped to them.  That their will be enough to buy them over 800 units that generate $250 to $300 per day. So here the math on how much they generate a day.

Low side $250x 800 = $200,000 per day.

High Side $300x800 = $240,000 Perday

SO their company make over 6.72 Million per 28 days

50% of that goes to the members so 3 million odd per month.

I can see what is going to happen their but I will save that for later.
___________________________________________________________
Their Response
 Donations will be used to reward developers, pay for technical services that are necessary, and pay for hardware that is necessary. Once development and launch of the core product are complete, any remaining donations will be treated as follows: a) a portion will be held on reserve to cover technical needs, b) a portion will be given back to members through our normal points distribution system, c) a portion will be donated to charity.
___________________________

My Response

As explained above we the members are buying them hardware from our donations that is a crafty way to actually do business. What their  doing in a way is taking our donations to make them rich and that is illegal in some states. However DONATION MEANS YOUR FUCKED IF THE COMPANY RUNS.  They are claiming they will be donating to charity. Then this would actually need proof and legitimate statements of stuff posted and so forth.

That's funny....you think they are looking to do bit mining.Nowhere has bit mining been even mentioned to do with the revenue streams they have talked about.

STAGE 4 – PUBLIC DEPLOYMENT- PRODUCT LAUNCH

Upon reaching pre-determined membership milestones, we will reveal the process to download FREE GBBG technology. All members who make annual donations will earn MONEY each and every single month based on usage of free services. Members will not be required to spend money on products or services in order to earn their share of GBBG’s revenues. Revenue will be generated through advertising, premium communication services, payment processing, currency exchanges, sales of books, sales of music, sales of movies, and many other income producing mediums. Members simply earn money by using the FREE technology. Some of our FREE services will include:

    Communication with anyone, anywhere in the world, including unlimited global telephone calling
    Access to the largest database of music, movies, and books on earth
    Global payment processing, currency exchange, and banking with NO FEES
    Much, much more