Should Monero run an ICO?

[Shrikez]

Your lack of character is disgusting.

Let me reply to this wonderful comment of yours with your signature: Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar

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TLDR: Monero can currently be considered a failed project as development has halted. They lack capable developers and funds to attract capable developers to help develop the coin. Should the Monero team run an ICO? ie. ICO & exchange of current XMR (Proof of Ownership) to the new chain?

Seriously dude, WTF is wrong with you? Development has not halted, there is development like every day, a significant new update with massive performance increases is imminent. It attracts not only capable (many) but also top tier developers like hyc and the unfortunately now-deceased warptangent, and even idiots like me who help (if you could call it that) with debugging occasionally.

There is no reason to insult the excellent developers who have worked hard on the project for little money or as volunteers and done great work. If you want to insult me, go for it. Don't insult them with your retarded trolling.

Good day smooth, I never intended to insult you or the other developers! This is just my personal opinion that is shared by a number of people. You can, of course, prove me wrong. I might be wrong. No offense! I am not trolling here! Please excuse me if it seems that way.

You can eat chalk all you want, your wolf tail shows.

Please enlighten the rest of the readers why you think your thread premise is applicable.

You must have at least some (objective) reason for your statement as neither Github activity nor trading volume nor market cap nor general community activity  etcpp. support your statement of Monero being a "failed project"

The stage is all yours.

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[prettybuds]

You must have at least some (objective) reason for your statement as neither Github activity nor trading volume nor market cap nor general community activity  etcpp. support your statement of Monero being a "failed project"

I tend to disagree. There might be Github activity but there's nothing worthwhile to be found at this point. Please point me to one commit that exhibits actual competence.

My reason is that I strongly feel the project has failed and it seems to be an opinion that I'm not alone with. Monero, from my point of view, has not delivered on its promises. Monero is hardly as earth-shattering as some of its arrogant hardcore supporters claim. I figured perhaps an ICO could fix this by attracting some serious development.

[Febo]

You must have at least some (objective) reason for your statement as neither Github activity nor trading volume nor market cap nor general community activity  etcpp. support your statement of Monero being a "failed project"

I tend to disagree. There might be Github activity but there's nothing worthwhile to be found at this point. Please point me to one commit that exhibits actual competence.

My reason is that I strongly feel the project has failed and it seems to be the community consensus as well. Monero has not delivered on its promises. Monero is hardly as earth-shattering as its arrogant supporters claim. I figured perhaps an ICO could fix this by attracting some serious development.

So there is huge Github activity in last 2 years, but you find all of it useless?

There is strong community consensus that Monero is one of best managed and developed Crypto coins. Monero delivered on its promises. It never promised any earth shattering. It only promised most anon coin there is.

If you have fixes, you can add them in Gethub commits. Since you think there is nothing useful there, I am sure you can add a lot.

[prettybuds]

So there is huge Github activity in last 2 years, but you find all of it useless?

Not useless, but nothing special.

There is strong community consensus that Monero is one of best managed and developed Crypto coins. Monero delivered on its promises. It never promised any earth shattering. It only promised most anon coin there is.

I disagree, it's one of the most hated cryptocurrencies for a reason: bad management. Arrogance is not a particularly good management tactic.

If you have fixes, you can add them in Gethub commits. Since you think there is nothing useful there, I am sure you can add a lot.

I'm not a skilled developer. I also wouldn't claim that I'm a competent developer if I'm not.

[GingerAle]

So there is huge Github activity in last 2 years, but you find all of it useless?

Not useless, but nothing special.

Do you run bitcoind? I'm just curious.

There is strong community consensus that Monero is one of best managed and developed Crypto coins. Monero delivered on its promises. It never promised any earth shattering. It only promised most anon coin there is.

I disagree, it's one of the most hated cryptocurrencies for a reason: bad management. Arrogance is not a particularly good management tactic.
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Who's managing what? Core team manages core development. Thats all that matters.

If you have fixes, you can add them in Gethub commits. Since you think there is nothing useful there, I am sure you can add a lot.

I'm not a skilled developer. I also wouldn't claim that I'm a competent developer if I'm not.
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regardless, i am happy to announce -

THE MONERO ICO IS ON!!!

How to participate in the ICO

1. Buy bitcoin
2. Goto poloniex, buy monero
3. give half of the monero you just bought to core team to fund development

If you don't understand why this is no different than an ICO then you should just stop.

[Febo]

So there is huge Github activity in last 2 years, but you find all of it useless?

Not useless, but nothing special.

Monero is an anon coin. It will not solve hunger if that is what you expect.

There is strong community consensus that Monero is one of best managed and developed Crypto coins. Monero delivered on its promises. It never promised any earth shattering. It only promised most anon coin there is.

I disagree, it's one of the most hated cryptocurrencies for a reason: bad management. Arrogance is not a particularly good management tactic.

Reason why you fell that way, but in reality only few hate it is because they are invested in other coins and try to FUD competition. But that are only few, but are quite loud.

If you have fixes, you can add them in Gethub commits. Since you think there is nothing useful there, I am sure you can add a lot.

I'm not a skilled developer. I also wouldn't claim that I'm a competent developer if I'm not.

Yes exactly, so i dont think you are skilled to help Monero at all. So such threads you post several are a bit waste of your and other peoples time.

[mv__]

Monero blockchain should be shut down so that monero religion believers would have their mind free and come back to the real world.

[Spoetnik]

Can you guys stop trolling Monero?

At some point I'm looking to buy back lower but you keep pushing the price up.

Sorry about that i hate to ruin your ponzi scheme "profits"
after all isn't that what all this is about anyway ?

And OP you are clearly clueless beyond comprehension (and the rest of you)

So hmmm let's recap a bit shall we Monero Investards..

First off let's point out how they already collected money from users for coding / adoption etc.
then when the guy holding the coins and the guy spending them ran into some drama
they decided to have a little fake vote to give back donated funds.. because they fucked up !
What did they fuck up ?

Well for one thing we have Risto / reptiela the millionaire who has a Bentley & lives in a castle
having free will to spend the donated funds on what he feels like..
With no permission or oversight from ANYONE and who was "holding" the donated funds ?
Why David Latapie of course the "MEW Treasurer"
Both of whom have been said to NOT be a part of the "Monero Team"

So lesson time Kidiots.. what does that tell you ?
Any wild guesses ?
Do i have to spell it out to you all real slowly ..again  

Or.. cry FUD collect more donations and spend the money on Bitcointalk Forum games (for adoption)

In what twisted fucked up universe is this bullshit acceptable ?
Take a failed irritating fucking gimmicky shit coin that was already a "community take over" from day one
then discuss about re-launching it with an even more scammy distribution model ?
Are you tards high or what ?
Or just frothing at the mouth with greed ?

Ya.. re-launch Monero as an IPO / ICO i fucking dare you ROFL
You all think i bitch about them lots as it is ? hahahhaa

Monero = Idiotic gimmick scam coin backed by greedy morons looking to augment their ponzi-token
..to increase their profits.

Hey brainiacs get it yet ?
Donated funds was not the problem..
The problem was finding respectable dev's who wanted to work on the shit coin !
They have had no problem coming up with donated funds just no one willing
to get involved with the French crew and their millionaire and irritating "Marketing team"

Want to put lipstick on a pig ? Fine.
But making an IPO relaunch would be like smacking it in the face with a shovel.

Monero.. the Mensa genius coin for Pyramid scheme bag holder aficionado's.
I aemz to havingk me profitz !!!111 HODL FOeva!!!! amez haz richz lamboz !!!!

[Spoetnik]

So there is huge Github activity in last 2 years, but you find all of it useless?

Not useless, but nothing special.

Monero is an anon coin. It will not solve hunger if that is what you expect.

There is strong community consensus that Monero is one of best managed and developed Crypto coins. Monero delivered on its promises. It never promised any earth shattering. It only promised most anon coin there is.

I disagree, it's one of the most hated cryptocurrencies for a reason: bad management. Arrogance is not a particularly good management tactic.

Reason why you fell that way, but in reality only few hate it is because they are invested in other coins and try to FUD competition. But that are only few, but are quite loud.

If you have fixes, you can add them in Gethub commits. Since you think there is nothing useful there, I am sure you can add a lot.

I'm not a skilled developer. I also wouldn't claim that I'm a competent developer if I'm not.

Yes exactly, so i dont think you are skilled to help Monero at all. So such threads you post several are a bit waste of your and other peoples time.

Your a blind & delusional BAG HOLDER yourself !
You are lying full of shit.
When a crew of guys make endless mistakes and then accomplish pretty much nothing in 2 years
then yes it can safely be considered a failure.

Mr French Dev how is your french buddy Latapie ?
And how is his buddy's doing who were arrested for Fraud in France ?
And why did Latapie the MEW treasurer who held donated funds vanish *again* ?
And what did Latapie tell the French Police ? And what did he tell them about his "Monero Marketing Company" ?

The level of fucking denial with you and other Monero idiots blows me the fuck away.
You all act like idiots then play dumb deny it all 100% then go right back to crying Troll / FUD.
..again ..for years

[cryptodromeda]

Can you guys stop trolling Monero?

At some point I'm looking to buy back lower but you keep pushing the price up.

Sorry about that i hate to ruin your ponzi scheme "profits"
after all isn't that what all this is about anyway ?

I wasn't talking to you. As far as I know you've never been able to move markets in any direction.

[robelneo]

I am surprised on the poll I don't have monero but seeing that holders that this coin is dead made me think that if they will ever implement an ICO there's going to be a strong resistance from holders and followers and of course haters..

[Febo]

lol Spoetnik

I am not French i am not a developer and i wish i would be a Monero bag holder.

On my humble opinion you dont fall into this group "invested in other coins and try to FUD competition." , but i could be wrong.  Your every monero post includes Risto and lately also David. So i guess your problem is mainly with them and you dislike all they do. Let me open your eyes. They also breath air. Will you stop breathing now?

[somacoin]

i wish i would be a Monero bag holder.

Serious?

[smooth]

I'm not a skilled developer. I also wouldn't claim that I'm a competent developer if I'm not.

Then how can you possibly judge competence? You say, "Please point me to one commit that exhibits actual competence" but how is that even possible if you aren't qualified to assess competence when it is right in front of your eyes?

Most of the commits (virtually all in fact) are quite competent. There are a few errors here and there, of course, but that's normal for software development.

One could say the same thing for the other metrics that were pointed out. Market cap, trading volume, market cap ranking, coingecko ranking, etc. None of these point to a failed project. It is blatantly obvious as demonstrated by verifiable ongoing work that your claim that "development has halted" is nonsense or a deliberate lie. You're just 100% full of shit and it is obvious. Maybe you really aren't trolling, I can't say. But if not then incredibly stupid.

[Spoetnik]

Development can mean different things to different people..

The point people take away from it all over all is.. what MAJOR accomplishments have happened ?
Puttering around with the code for years on end doing minor changes does NOT
constitute development in my books.. and i would know i am a coder for a couple decades before Monero existed.

But hey let's play dumb about that OBVIOUS point i made that SHOULD "go with out saying".
And then let's cry Troll + FUD some more  

@Febo
You are aware i have checked out your post history before right ?
You are not French yet what languages have you posted here with ?
Care to explain ?
I can also cite how you have obviously weird English that is from someone with it as a 2nd language.
I doubt you "get" many English idioms etc.
But.. play dumb some more ..it's the Monero way LOL

PS:
I still think the name is retarded.
And i also still think the concept of an anon coin is a retarded idea.. doomed to failure.
One problem is it will attract hoards of criminals and then the cops etc.
Don't matter if it is an "option" either because if it *can* be used by Terrorists & crack dealers on SilkRoad etc
Then it will be !
And then THAT will be what the coin is KNOWN for and there for shoot yourself in the foot with global adoption.
Then what do you do security wise when the wold govts employ endless resources to hire hackers
to rape the coin ?
Who wants to place bets on who will be the winner ?
Russian, American or Chinese Govt vs. smooth & Febo  

You shillero's did not think it through too well you just wanted a "me too" coin asap..
And you thought your ANON gimmick was a good angle to push for you clone fork mod cryptonote take over coin etc

If you think Monero is going to EVER accomplish anything i think your brain damaged guys.
..accomplish anything MAJOR
Sorry minor code edits amount to squat.

[Febo]

@Spoetnik 
is actually totally irrelevant, but yes checking my posts history can lead you to my nationality. I mention this irrelevant thing only because , as usually 80% of your posts and not correct.

Talking about irrelevant things is what you are good at in last few years here.

[J1mb0]

And i also still think the concept of an anon coin is a retarded idea.. doomed to failure.
One problem is it will attract hoards of criminals and then the cops etc.
Don't matter if it is an "option" either because if it *can* be used by Terrorists & crack dealers on SilkRoad etc
Then it will be !
And then THAT will be what the coin is KNOWN for and there for shoot yourself in the foot with global adoption.
Then what do you do security wise when the wold govts employ endless resources to hire hackers
to rape the coin ?

LOL. Very droll and enjoyable posts.

However, I don't agree with your views on anonymity. Bitcoin has a public ledger, and was used for all the above, and has almost certainly been targetted by the The Powers That Be. Who knows, maybe the TPTB own or control 50% of big mining operations so they can pull the plug when they see fit.

Anonymity, however, makes cryptocoins no different to cash or gold. The cat is out the bag and as long as there are cryptocurrencies there will be at least one widely used anonymous one - probably a cryptonote due to resistance from mining monopolies and it's distributed model for anonymity.

[Spoetnik]

@Spoetnik  
is actually totally irrelevant, but yes checking my posts history can lead you to my nationality. I mention this irrelevant thing only because , as usually 80% of your posts and not correct.

Talking about irrelevant things is what you are good at in last few years here.

See ? You don't know what "relevent" means.

Have you posted comments here in French ?

80% ? irrelevant ?
I would say i have very much posted relevant info for a specific reason you choose to play dumb about.
Now we can discuss that one point.. the "French Connection"
Which may or may not be relevant but the rest of what i said sure as fucking hell is.
So how does that constitute 80% ?

Your spewing pure raw bullshit in an clear attempt to create a diversion & discredit me.
You dropped denying the French part and said it's "irrelevant"
Then fired off a stat that is clearly retarded bullshit.

If 80% of what i say is "irrelevant" then it should be easy for you to prove it.. go for it ..be my guest !

And fuck your back peddling conspiracy shit guys.
If one coin does more to provide anon features then another then yes it may be used by criminals.
If it then gets used by criminals it will then get known for that like Bitcoin was known for it early on.
I have met strangers on the street who told me this word for word when discussing BTC.
So i don't give two shits about theory rabble here.. i already have my answers because
i got off my ass and went outside and got them first hand from the public face to face.

They unanimously say "Bitcoin.. ohh that drugs & guns internet currency thing"

Account hop.. play dumb.. cause diversions.. cry Troll.. cry FUD ..back peddle. make up lies and Bullshit stats

How is this working out for ya Monero shills ?
Are people falling for it ?

I would say NO ..it has accomplished you NOTHING in 2 years and the coin is effectively as dead as it can get.
Let me provide an example to illustrate my very relevant point.
Jackpotcoin was working perfectly fine when it was delisted from Bittrex etc.
Problem was.. a lack of interest for the WORKING coin, so they pulled it.
Did puttering around with the code endlessly mean it was not dead ?
And it technically is still NOT "Dead" because if you wanted to you could go and get it running.
It's simply delisted all over and suffers from a lack of interest.

So head fake & bob & weave all you want but i have blown all your Monero shill points out of the water !
I have taken each one of your little shit coin retorts and destroyed them.
Seems mighty fucking relevant to me

PS:
"Drole" this whiny fucking bitches    

[Febo]

No

I said that my nationality is not important to discussion here. But you did mention it and you selected wrong one.

That is all.  If you want to discuss nationalities and languages of Forum members i suggest you to open thread in Offtopic and do it and not spam threads here with it.

[Febo]

Monero blockchain should be shut down so that monero religion believers would have their mind free and come back to the real world.

in real crypto everything is possible as long you get consensus to do it. That is a the beauty of it. If developers, miners, exchanges and merchants will want to do that they will do it. For all the rest this is not something to worry about.