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August 02, 2017, 09:07:03 PM
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So is it worth splitting some ARDR and going into IGNIS during this phase? I'm a rookie at all this.

You mean splitting NXT? Because the ARDR are not used for the token sale. Your ARDR assets will become 1:1 the Ardor currency at launch.

There is a post in the NxtForum laying out the scenarios.  
You can check for more posts over there. Seems that using NXT in the first funding round will be the most profitable option. There might be quite a rush (well, hopefully for the devs).
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August 02, 2017, 09:21:59 PM
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I am long into NXT but I started to educate myself on ARDOR.

This is what is my plan so far for maximum profit.

* Sold some NXT today for sweet profit.

* Still got bunch NXT, will buy more if it comes close to ~3500 sat.

* On 5.Aug I will invest 50% of my NXT in Ignis

* Leave 50% NXT in my wallet until 14.Oct in order to get Ignis snapshot. (during this time maybe buy(3500 sat)/sell(if it goes over 5000/6000 sat))

* After Snapshot go ALL in with my NXT into Ardor because as I understand NXT is old project, Ardor is the FUTURE and seems super undervalued comparing to other platforms.


What do you guys think ?

What is your strategy ?

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August 02, 2017, 09:46:09 PM
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So is it worth splitting some ARDR and going into IGNIS during this phase? I'm a rookie at all this.

You mean splitting NXT? Because the ARDR are not used for the token sale. Your ARDR assets will become 1:1 the Ardor currency at launch.

There is a post in the NxtForum laying out the scenarios.  
You can check for more posts over there. Seems that using NXT in the first funding round will be the most profitable option. There might be quite a rush (well, hopefully for the devs).

This calculation is pointless in this violate market.

This is what I am thinking from looking all ICOs that came out.
What this guy did not address is that from 5.Aug you get 0.4 NXT for 1 Ignis.
After ICO finishes, Ignis will hit exchanges based on be on last price of 1.4 NXT or 1 Ignis.

That is instant ~3.5 profit on exchange.

During the ICO time NXT can go UP/DOWN where you can short it easy and still make snapshot where you get 0.5 NXT for 1 Ignis.

Then also sell Ignis for ~3x profit from this.

Tell me am I crazy ?
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August 02, 2017, 11:27:57 PM
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Are there any bounty for Ignis ICO? And where the main official thread for IGNIS? I do not find it. Thanks for answer.
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August 02, 2017, 11:58:25 PM
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So is it worth splitting some ARDR and going into IGNIS during this phase? I'm a rookie at all this.

You mean splitting NXT? Because the ARDR are not used for the token sale. Your ARDR assets will become 1:1 the Ardor currency at launch.

There is a post in the NxtForum laying out the scenarios.  
You can check for more posts over there. Seems that using NXT in the first funding round will be the most profitable option. There might be quite a rush (well, hopefully for the devs).

This calculation is pointless in this violate market.

This is what I am thinking from looking all ICOs that came out.
What this guy did not address is that from 5.Aug you get 0.4 NXT for 1 Ignis.
After ICO finishes, Ignis will hit exchanges based on be on last price of 1.4 NXT or 1 Ignis.

That is instant ~3.5 profit on exchange.

During the ICO time NXT can go UP/DOWN where you can short it easy and still make snapshot where you get 0.5 NXT for 1 Ignis.

Then also sell Ignis for ~3x profit from this.

Tell me am I crazy ?

I think u'll get 0.5 ignis for 1 nxt.

I was also thinking going all in on ignis and ditching nxt all together, cuz I o lying have 1000 of them, in the first round. But I don't really know much about what makes ignis valuable?

And maybe after round 1 nxt price will drop again, then I'll get some more and save it for ignis snapshot. After snapshot get some more ardor for it. 

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August 03, 2017, 12:29:40 AM
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I am long into NXT but I started to educate myself on ARDOR.

This is what is my plan so far for maximum profit.

* Sold some NXT today for sweet profit.

* Still got bunch NXT, will buy more if it comes close to ~3500 sat.

* On 5.Aug I will invest 50% of my NXT in Ignis

* Leave 50% NXT in my wallet until 14.Oct in order to get Ignis snapshot. (during this time maybe buy(3500 sat)/sell(if it goes over 5000/6000 sat))

* After Snapshot go ALL in with my NXT into Ardor because as I understand NXT is old project, Ardor is the FUTURE and seems super undervalued comparing to other platforms.


What do you guys think ?

What is your strategy ?



I think NXT will still have value, so I've decided just to wait for the 0.5 IGNIS airdrop. The early bird discount is tempting, but only if NXT completely tanks after ARDOR, and I don't think that's gonna happen.
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August 03, 2017, 04:44:20 AM
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The only thing they really optimize is the wallet software. They have run out of idea just like the others because that's everything of the blockchain technology.

There is no point the price will go higher with the cap of 1 Billion coins.
The only thing that go higher in the future is bitcoin price.
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August 03, 2017, 09:55:56 AM
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So is it worth splitting some ARDR and going into IGNIS during this phase? I'm a rookie at all this.

You mean splitting NXT? Because the ARDR are not used for the token sale. Your ARDR assets will become 1:1 the Ardor currency at launch.

There is a post in the NxtForum laying out the scenarios.  
You can check for more posts over there. Seems that using NXT in the first funding round will be the most profitable option. There might be quite a rush (well, hopefully for the devs).

This calculation is pointless in this violate market.

This is what I am thinking from looking all ICOs that came out.
What this guy did not address is that from 5.Aug you get 0.4 NXT for 1 Ignis.
After ICO finishes, Ignis will hit exchanges based on be on last price of 1.4 NXT or 1 Ignis.

That is instant ~3.5 profit on exchange.

During the ICO time NXT can go UP/DOWN where you can short it easy and still make snapshot where you get 0.5 NXT for 1 Ignis.

Then also sell Ignis for ~3x profit from this.

Tell me am I crazy ?

I think u'll get 0.5 ignis for 1 nxt.

I was also thinking going all in on ignis and ditching nxt all together, cuz I o lying have 1000 of them, in the first round. But I don't really know much about what makes ignis valuable?

And maybe after round 1 nxt price will drop again, then I'll get some more and save it for ignis snapshot. After snapshot get some more ardor for it. 


Ignis ICO Schedule      
Dates   JLRDA tokens for sale   Price of 1 JLRDA in NXT
Aug 05 - Aug 12   60,000,000   0.4
Aug 26 - Sep 02   80,000,000   0.55
Sep 09 - Sep 16   100,000,000   0.76
Sep 23 - Sep 30   100,000,000   1.05
Oct 07 - Oct 14   up to 100,000,000   1.45

My strategy:

On Aug 5 you get 1 ignis for 0.4 NXT is 1 NXT, that means for 1 NXT you will get 2.5 ignis

On Oct 07 price of 1 ignis is 1.45 NXT, that mean for 1 NXT you will get 0.6 ignis

After that that date Ardor will make snapshot on which 1 NXT = 0.5 ignis.

If you got ignis at Aug 5 and you sell it after it is possible you can instantly gain 3.6x profit.



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August 03, 2017, 11:21:06 AM
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I am long into NXT but I started to educate myself on ARDOR.

This is what is my plan so far for maximum profit.

* Sold some NXT today for sweet profit.

* Still got bunch NXT, will buy more if it comes close to ~3500 sat.

* On 5.Aug I will invest 50% of my NXT in Ignis

* Leave 50% NXT in my wallet until 14.Oct in order to get Ignis snapshot. (during this time maybe buy(3500 sat)/sell(if it goes over 5000/6000 sat))

* After Snapshot go ALL in with my NXT into Ardor because as I understand NXT is old project, Ardor is the FUTURE and seems super undervalued comparing to other platforms.


What do you guys think ?

What is your strategy ?



I think NXT will still have value, so I've decided just to wait for the 0.5 IGNIS airdrop. The early bird discount is tempting, but only if NXT completely tanks after ARDOR, and I don't think that's gonna happen.

Check out this discussion, you have NXT core devs dropping some gems https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/lets-have-a-discuss-the-choice-we-all-have-pending-regarding-your-nxt-and-ignis/

Info from developer:
"As investor in the ICO you need to balance the following factors:
(1) Don't buy IGNIS in the ICO - you get less well funded development team and community in the long run and less sell pressure on NXT in the short run
(2) Buy IGNIS in the ICO - you get better funded development team and community in the long run and more sell pressure on NXT in the short run


Since you are reading this, I assume you believe in the NXT development team and the NXT community, if so, go for (2), true, there will be a short term sell pressure while the raised funds are converted to NXT but this is a short term concern. In the long term, a better funded development team and community will be able to hire more developers, invest in marketing and give this wonderful product the attention is deserves.

Surely, when you buy IGNIS in the ICO you'll get a much better rate than if you just hold your NXT. We'll publish more information about the ICO terms and conditions as soon as we have it clear with all related entities."

On future on NXT, either way NXT is part of the Past and Ardor is Future.

"If Jelurida is well funded after a successful ICO we will continue to maintain NXT and add to it every feature which we add to Ardor and does not require a parent/child architecture.
If Jelurida is not well funded then we will focus most of our efforts on Ardor and put less focus on NXT."




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August 03, 2017, 11:21:38 AM
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FYI, newcomers!
Did you know you can mine NXT (and buy Ardor with it on the Nxt Asset Exchange!) in the Lucky node project?
Computational and bandwidth requirements are very low - some users run it on a Raspberry Pi.
Run the node 24/7 or as often as you can while you work or play.
Join in with the over 100 nodes that are already in the project.

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August 03, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
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FYI, newcomers!
Did you know you can mine NXT (and buy Ardor with it on the Nxt Asset Exchange!) in the Lucky node project?
Computational and bandwidth requirements are very low - some users run it on a Raspberry Pi.
Run the node 24/7 or as often as you can while you work or play.
Join in with the over 100 nodes that are already in the project.


Nice! Smiley

Have Raspberry Pi sitting home collecting dust.
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August 03, 2017, 02:29:53 PM
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So is it worth splitting some ARDR and going into IGNIS during this phase? I'm a rookie at all this.

You mean splitting NXT? Because the ARDR are not used for the token sale. Your ARDR assets will become 1:1 the Ardor currency at launch.

There is a post in the NxtForum laying out the scenarios
You can check for more posts over there. Seems that using NXT in the first funding round will be the most profitable option. There might be quite a rush (well, hopefully for the devs).

This calculation is pointless in this violate market.

This is what I am thinking from looking all ICOs that came out.
What this guy did not address is that from 5.Aug you get 0.4 NXT for 1 Ignis.
After ICO finishes, Ignis will hit exchanges based on be on last price of 1.4 NXT or 1 Ignis.

That is instant ~3.5 profit on exchange.

During the ICO time NXT can go UP/DOWN where you can short it easy and still make snapshot where you get 0.5 NXT for 1 Ignis.

Then also sell Ignis for ~3x profit from this.

Tell me am I crazy ?

I think u'll get 0.5 ignis for 1 nxt.

I was also thinking going all in on ignis and ditching nxt all together, cuz I o lying have 1000 of them, in the first round. But I don't really know much about what makes ignis valuable?

And maybe after round 1 nxt price will drop again, then I'll get some more and save it for ignis snapshot. After snapshot get some more ardor for it. 


Ignis ICO Schedule      
Dates   JLRDA tokens for sale   Price of 1 JLRDA in NXT
Aug 05 - Aug 12   60,000,000   0.4
Aug 26 - Sep 02   80,000,000   0.55
Sep 09 - Sep 16   100,000,000   0.76
Sep 23 - Sep 30   100,000,000   1.05
Oct 07 - Oct 14   up to 100,000,000   1.45

My strategy:

On Aug 5 you get 1 ignis for 0.4 NXT is 1 NXT, that means for 1 NXT you will get 2.5 ignis

On Oct 07 price of 1 ignis is 1.45 NXT, that mean for 1 NXT you will get 0.6 ignis

After that that date Ardor will make snapshot on which 1 NXT = 0.5 ignis.

If you got ignis at Aug 5 and you sell it after it is possible you can instantly gain 3.6x profit.





You cannot sell JLRDA, bought on ICO, as it is controllable currency. Only issuer can trade it or transfer it. Check it here: https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/Monetary_System#Controllable
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August 03, 2017, 05:36:41 PM
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Hi, I own a few ARDOR and I was wondering if I read this correctly:

Source: https://www.jelurida.com/ico

ARDR distribution
The ARDR coin distribution will be 100% based on ARDR asset balances from the Nxt blockchain, in 1:1 ratio, with each user account automatically receiving the same number of ARDR coins on the Ardor platform as the number of ARDR tokens they have at the time of the snapshot. As a reminder, ARDR tokens on the Nxt blockchain were allocated to NXT holders based on their average NXT balances during a three month period in 2016. ARDR tokens have been freely tradeable ever since. No new ARDR coins will be created.


Does this mean that my 1k ardr will give me 1k Ignis? It is not clear to me what is meant with the paragraph above.
I own Nxt aswell and I know the ratio is 1:0.5 for Nxt. So for example if I had 1k NXT I will recieve 500 IGNIS.
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August 03, 2017, 06:54:59 PM
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Hi, I own a few ARDOR and I was wondering if I read this correctly:

Source: https://www.jelurida.com/ico

ARDR distribution
The ARDR coin distribution will be 100% based on ARDR asset balances from the Nxt blockchain, in 1:1 ratio, with each user account automatically receiving the same number of ARDR coins on the Ardor platform as the number of ARDR tokens they have at the time of the snapshot. As a reminder, ARDR tokens on the Nxt blockchain were allocated to NXT holders based on their average NXT balances during a three month period in 2016. ARDR tokens have been freely tradeable ever since. No new ARDR coins will be created.


Does this mean that my 1k ardr will give me 1k Ignis? It is not clear to me what is meant with the paragraph above.
I own Nxt aswell and I know the ratio is 1:0.5 for Nxt. So for example if I had 1k NXT I will recieve 500 IGNIS.

No, where do you read Ignis?

ARDR is currently a NXT asset, ARDR distribution will give you 1:1 "real" ARDR, that's what the paragraph mentions.
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August 03, 2017, 08:56:20 PM
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I know ardor can get dividends, but can you stake, forge,  or get dividends with Ignis?
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August 04, 2017, 04:23:47 AM
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I know ardor can get dividends, but can you stake, forge,  or get dividends with Ignis?

Only ARDR will forge, Ignis is for everything else (payment token).
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August 04, 2017, 09:31:30 AM
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FYI, newcomers!
Did you know you can mine NXT (and buy Ardor with it on the Nxt Asset Exchange!) in the Lucky node project?
Computational and bandwidth requirements are very low - some users run it on a Raspberry Pi.
Run the node 24/7 or as often as you can while you work or play.
Join in with the over 100 nodes that are already in the project.


Should it have the static IP or dynamic is enough to be eligible for Lucky node project? And one more question. Can I forge having dynamic IP?
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August 04, 2017, 11:52:54 AM
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I'm only one who think new child chain is pump dump scam? look at nxt---> ardor
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August 04, 2017, 12:21:15 PM
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I'm only one who think new child chain is pump dump scam? look at nxt---> ardor

yes, you are the only one. ardor is not a 100% replacement for NXT, hence there is room and need for child chains.
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How many ardor coins are required to start forging? (when ardor is released)
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