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October 10, 2016, 01:25:33 AM
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Crowdsale page locked?

I assume you are not referring to the website: http://crowdsale.vdice.io

Please provide a link and will investigate further.

Sorry, I mean the crowdsale thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1633105
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October 11, 2016, 08:39:47 AM
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Crowdsale page locked?

I assume you are not referring to the website: http://crowdsale.vdice.io

Please provide a link and will investigate further.

Sorry, I mean the crowdsale thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1633105

Hi,

There is active discussion going on here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1633105.new#new
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October 17, 2016, 06:00:21 PM
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The strong driver for vDice is that it is an operating "business" (smart contract) and will deliver a token which delivers value rather than promises on a white paper.

I have written an in-depth analysis of the project here : http://investitin.com/vdice/





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October 22, 2016, 06:17:42 AM
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Can I use BTC to invest or do I have to buy ETH to participate?

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October 22, 2016, 06:30:29 AM
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What will happen if the token aren't sold out after the ICO period?
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October 22, 2016, 07:17:56 AM
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is it support ICN token after the token has been released ?
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October 23, 2016, 07:59:21 AM
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Can I use BTC to invest or do I have to buy ETH to participate?

You can use BTC or ETH. Both are fine.
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October 23, 2016, 09:14:05 AM
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What will happen if the token aren't sold out after the ICO period?

Thanks for your questions. Actually, there are no set amount of tokens to sell out:

The ‘vSlice’ token Smart Contract will be deployed and people who contribute will receive:
  
- Week 1 = 1 (ETH) : 130 (vSlice).
- Week 2 = 1 (ETH) : 120 (vSlice).
- Weeks 3 & 4 = 1 (ETH) : 100 (vSlice).

This is for each Ether (ETH) they send, for the 1-month of the issuance.
This up until the upper-cap of 700K ETH, or the end of the pre-sale period (Dec. 15th). Whichever comes first.
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October 23, 2016, 09:15:48 AM
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is it support ICN token after the token has been released ?

This is a reference to the Iconomi platform for tokens ?
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October 23, 2016, 06:36:14 PM
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Can I use BTC to invest or do I have to buy ETH to participate?

You can buy with BTC, but the price should be ETH dependent.
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October 26, 2016, 10:36:53 AM
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Can I use BTC to invest or do I have to buy ETH to participate?

You can buy with BTC, but the price should be ETH dependent.

That is indeed correct.
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October 27, 2016, 05:20:05 PM
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One of our founders, also on the original Ethereum Team, did an interview recently.

It appeared in leading blockchain publication; the-blockchain.com

Here is the interview:
http://www.the-blockchain.com/2016/10/23/interview-with-blockchain-gambling-startup-vdice-founder-jason-colby/

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October 31, 2016, 01:44:10 PM
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Where is bounty details?
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October 31, 2016, 02:06:47 PM
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Why do we need to buy in ICO for a gambling platform? why do we even need an eth gambling platform?

I can easily gamble with bitcoin and doge. No need to be worried about gas limit and such.

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November 01, 2016, 03:31:12 AM
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Where is bounty details?

Hi,

You can message Hero Member Irfan_Pak10 for bounty details.

Otherwise, there are some details on our blog here:
https://blog.vdice.io/vdice-crowdsale-ico-bounties-program
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November 01, 2016, 03:34:59 AM
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Why do we need to buy in ICO for a gambling platform? why do we even need an eth gambling platform?

I can easily gamble with bitcoin and doge. No need to be worried about gas limit and such.

Sure. We like gambling with Bitcoin and Doge too.

But what about people with Ether?
That is a billion $ market. Where should they gamble?

ETH is the 2nd biggest 'coin', it needs and will have, good gambling sites.

We think blockchain gambling is the best. It is trustless and decentralized.
So we built a live, working, blockchain gambling game. Actually it's the world's 1st FULLY decentralized.

Classic SatoshiDICE for Bitcoin was close to this. It was so successful.
But they didn't have smart contracts and oracles. So they needed a Server for Randomness.

The ICO creates a token.
The token is tied to the profits of the game.

So, hold the toke, get the profits.
If the game is successful, token holders are successful.

Gas limit is just the same as miner fees on Bitcoin, Doge, etc. They are very, very small.
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November 03, 2016, 03:22:45 PM
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Sorry to be an ass and repost this from another thread, but considering you are asking for a considerable amount of investor money, I think it's prudent to not dodge my technical concerns:


I don't understand. You're saying you trust centralized more than decentralized   Huh

We respectfully disagree. That's why we love blockchain.
That's why we made the world's 1st FULLY decentralized gambling platform.

There are technical arguments we both can make.
But I think people in Bitcoin forum understand why decentralization is important.

wth? If this is your serious reply, I'm starting to suspect another ICO scam coin. My concerns are laid out pretty straight forward:

* random.org  can cheat (by picking any number they want)
* cloudflare can cheat (by signing any number they want)
* oraclize can cheat, by calling random.org as many times as they want and picking the result they most like (or reusing results?)


And not only can they cheat, they can undetectable do so.  And you dodge the question with "You're saying you trust centralized more than decentralized   Huh"

which is beside the point, and I believe nonsense as you're calling centralized services. It's like call "untitled dice" decentralized, as it's a serverless gambling app -- but the reality is it uses a centralized service (moneypot). Same with yours, you might not need to run a server, but random.org, cloudflare and oraclize all need to.

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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November 04, 2016, 08:33:48 AM
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Sorry to be an ass and repost this from another thread, but considering you are asking for a considerable amount of investor money, I think it's prudent to not dodge my technical concerns:


I don't understand. You're saying you trust centralized more than decentralized   Huh

We respectfully disagree. That's why we love blockchain.
That's why we made the world's 1st FULLY decentralized gambling platform.

There are technical arguments we both can make.
But I think people in Bitcoin forum understand why decentralization is important.

wth? If this is your serious reply, I'm starting to suspect another ICO scam coin. My concerns are laid out pretty straight forward:

* random.org  can cheat (by picking any number they want)
* cloudflare can cheat (by signing any number they want)
* oraclize can cheat, by calling random.org as many times as they want and picking the result they most like (or reusing results?)


The game works and the code is well tested. Go review it yourself.
There is no need to be aggressive and start making wild, unfounded accusations.

We have some of the finest developers in Ethereum on our team.
Our coders and game are live, working and can be verified. We are obviously legitimate.

Now, I have no idea why you are posting the same questions, over and over, in EVERY forum.   Huh

Requesting to kindly keep this just one forum.
It's really annoying to have to go and paste the same answer over and over again.

Anyway, these concerns are addressed in our 3rd Party Audit by Peter Vessenes.
You can read that here: https://blog.vdice.io/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/vdice_game_code_audit_october_2016.pdf

For his credentials as an auditor you can google him or go to his security blog: http://vessenes.com

That is on our website. Along with all other documentation.

As an addendum to the audit, in relation to Oraclize and Replay issue (which I am guessing you allude to):

The very reason why the authenticated JSON-RPC APIs of random.org are used, is because of the "requestsLeft" field which is returned by each API call response ( https://api.random.org/json-rpc/1/signing ). This field content is tied to the API credentials specified in the query and is there to indicate how many requests are left in a given day.

If we check all the TLSNotary proofs published on the blockchain (which contain the whole API response!), an independent auditor can verify whether any subsequent number in the "requestsLeft" fields is missing - when that happens, the auditor has a good indicator that something wrong happened (either on the Oraclize side - which sent more requests than expected - or by any external party knowing that specific API key (vDice itself & random.org)). Of course this doesn't say much about the intent in itself (can just be some failure in the HTTP request, which had to be sent again), but in general it provides some level of security against replay attacks.   


Otherwise, perhaps you are suggesting the oracle might have requested random numbers until a matching one >shows up? In which case:

Random.org JSON responses have a consecutive ID, so if we dropped some to advange ourselves in the game, by checking all of the bets and their respective responses it would be evident: at the end of the day, there would be some JSON responses missing, i.e ID 1, 2,3.. 5,6 present but 4 missing.

Further information on TLS notary:

With TLS notary (by the author of it in IRC), the third party has to keep the data to prevent the source from manipulating their data and making it seem as though your captured data is actually not authentic. In other words, a lying "I never said that!" from the webhost people.

It actually is secure because it is like when you browse to a HTTPS secure site, you are able to see provably that they are X company (if you inspect the certificates). TLS Notary is essentially able to record those bytes in such a way that you can play them back later so you can authenticate the bytes again! Very ingenious. (But the math of how it does this in the whitepaper goes above my head. https://tlsnotary.org/TLSNotary.pdf)

the notary server used at the moment is the default tlsnotarygroup1 notary - which is an "AWS oracle", as described here. So there is nobody having access to the secret, as you can easily verify indipendently by following these instructions and giving a look at the actual code for the pagesigner-oracles.

There are some great videos explaining this further. Here is one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ukd4I8S9A

I could go on forever about this. But, as I said before, it is an issue of centralization v decentralization.

vDice is fully decentralized in that there is no server architecture. There are 3rd party providers that do run some server architecture. But they are not part of vDice directly. They just give it what it needs. So, vDice is still serverless.
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November 04, 2016, 08:38:47 AM
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Hacked.com Feature Piece on vDice is Live!

https://hacked.com/vdice-io-the-worlds-first-full-decentralized-gambling-platform-ethereum-or-blockchain-tech/

vDice.io, launched in June as the 1st FULLY decentralized gambling game.

Running on the first programmable P2P network, vDice will host a crowdsale from Nov. 15 - Dec. 15.
In exchange for Ether (ETH), investors will receive “vSlice” tokens, each of which is directly tied to the profits of the game.

The “vSlice” token will regularly distribute profits of the vDice game to token holders.

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November 06, 2016, 10:14:41 AM
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A Piece in TechInAsia on vDice, Blockchain and Gambling

https://www.techinasia.com/talk/blockchain-decentralizing-gambling



Also, a piece in Hacked.com on vDice

https://hacked.com/vdice-io-the-worlds-first-full-decentralized-gambling-platform-ethereum-or-blockchain-tech/


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