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[MedaR]

It is absolutely great that they decided to make a mobile version for there are many people who mostly use their phone and might even not have a pc. At least I know such people. In my country in villages people don't usually have a pc and internet there but they have smartphones with mobile internet, so perhaps they could've gambled now
As for a min bet - it is surprising that although nothing is done about it, people still gamble. Perhaps that means that we all are wrong when we advice to make the bet amount lower.

No, people who entered earlier now gambling, but for newcomers requirements are higher due to ETH price change. We only proposing lowering initial requirements so this way we can effect more members to join.
 
For someone who wants to join vDICE you must first buy ETH, create account for such transactions..All in all mobile patform won't be used by those who alredy don't have experince in all this. It's for better user experiences, for those who already have one.

[izanagi narukami]

It is absolutely great that they decided to make a mobile version for there are many people who mostly use their phone and might even not have a pc. At least I know such people. In my country in villages people don't usually have a pc and internet there but they have smartphones with mobile internet, so perhaps they could've gambled now
As for a min bet - it is surprising that although nothing is done about it, people still gamble. Perhaps that means that we all are wrong when we advice to make the bet amount lower.

No, people who entered earlier now gambling, but for newcomers requirements are higher due to ETH price change. We only proposing lowering initial requirements so this way we can effect more members to join.
 
For someone who wants to join vDICE you must first buy ETH, create account for such transactions..All in all mobile patform won't be used by those who alredy don't have experince in all this. It's for better user experiences, for those who already have one.

IMO, it's time to buy ETH since the value has lower. I think it's happening because panic sell especially when SEGWIT things is near to happen
But overall ETH has quite stable to sustain this event although other currency also experience same things

[onnz423]

It is absolutely great that they decided to make a mobile version for there are many people who mostly use their phone and might even not have a pc. At least I know such people. In my country in villages people don't usually have a pc and internet there but they have smartphones with mobile internet, so perhaps they could've gambled now

I agree, however if the people in villages cannot afford a PC, how can they afford to gamble on vDice with 0.22 ETH minimum bet?

IMO, it's time to buy ETH since the value has lower. I think it's happening because panic sell especially when SEGWIT things is near to happen
But overall ETH has quite stable to sustain this event although other currency also experience same things

The value of ETH will probably go up in the near future again. Pretty nuch every altcoin has been on a downtrend, so it looks like still the altcoins are heavily tied to Bitcoin price.

[MedaR]

IMO, it's time to buy ETH since the value has lower. I think it's happening because panic sell especially when SEGWIT things is near to happen
But overall ETH has quite stable to sustain this event although other currency also experience same things

My trades are mostly based on daily trades and very small number of coins are in my bags now, not because i'm scared, because i believe i will buy them lower in near future. ETH can suffer big damage because of panic, at least enter for vDICE will be cheaper again .

I agree, however if the people in villages cannot afford a PC, how can they afford to gamble on vDice with 0.22 ETH minimum bet?

Yes this but they are not targeted groups probably, i'm sure that management of this project is aware of this.

[kryptqnick]

It is absolutely great that they decided to make a mobile version for there are many people who mostly use their phone and might even not have a pc. At least I know such people. In my country in villages people don't usually have a pc and internet there but they have smartphones with mobile internet, so perhaps they could've gambled now

I agree, however if the people in villages cannot afford a PC, how can they afford to gamble on vDice with 0.22 ETH minimum bet?

Right, good point. I think I missed that. Surely they can't.. Why is min bet still so high? Did we get some explanation from vdice owners? Are there some technical issues which don't allow to make lower bets, perhaps? Maybe, something to do with transactions and the fees they require? Or is it a principal position that the bet should not be lower?

[avatar_kiyoshi]

It is absolutely great that they decided to make a mobile version for there are many people who mostly use their phone and might even not have a pc. At least I know such people. In my country in villages people don't usually have a pc and internet there but they have smartphones with mobile internet, so perhaps they could've gambled now

I agree, however if the people in villages cannot afford a PC, how can they afford to gamble on vDice with 0.22 ETH minimum bet?

Right, good point. I think I missed that. Surely they can't.. Why is min bet still so high? Did we get some explanation from vdice owners? Are there some technical issues which don't allow to make lower bets, perhaps? Maybe, something to do with transactions and the fees they require? Or is it a principal position that the bet should not be lower?

There's no reason why the minimum bet is still not reduce yet, I'm sure the dev have another goal to reach as soon as possible, like slot game and system availability of mobile app.

Besides that, because it's used ETH blockchain, I think it's difficult to change the system.

[jaberwock]

It is absolutely great that they decided to make a mobile version for there are many people who mostly use their phone and might even not have a pc. At least I know such people. In my country in villages people don't usually have a pc and internet there but they have smartphones with mobile internet, so perhaps they could've gambled now

I agree, however if the people in villages cannot afford a PC, how can they afford to gamble on vDice with 0.22 ETH minimum bet?

Right, good point. I think I missed that. Surely they can't.. Why is min bet still so high? Did we get some explanation from vdice owners? Are there some technical issues which don't allow to make lower bets, perhaps? Maybe, something to do with transactions and the fees they require? Or is it a principal position that the bet should not be lower?

There's no reason why the minimum bet is still not reduce yet, I'm sure the dev have another goal to reach as soon as possible, like slot game and system availability of mobile app.

Besides that, because it's used ETH blockchain, I think it's difficult to change the system.

But the price keep changing every day, I think first some rules would be needed to avoid losses and confusion about the minimum changing every time. Also no gambling site would be good for everyone, some will be for whales, others will be for penny bettors. Maybe the minimum is to avoid blockchain spam too, who knows.

[onnz423]

There's no reason why the minimum bet is still not reduce yet, I'm sure the dev have another goal to reach as soon as possible, like slot game and system availability of mobile app.

Besides that, because it's used ETH blockchain, I think it's difficult to change the system.

But the price keep changing every day, I think first some rules would be needed to avoid losses and confusion about the minimum changing every time. Also no gambling site would be good for everyone, some will be for whales, others will be for penny bettors. Maybe the minimum is to avoid blockchain spam too, who knows.

That is true, i think it would require a new contract or something similar to change the rules.
However i see that Ethereum is going to drop quite alot in the near future after so long pump, so maybe that 0.22ETH will not be that much then.
But i do not see why making a new smart contract would take much time, because you could have 2 seperate smart contracts at least.

[kryptqnick]

There's no reason why the minimum bet is still not reduce yet, I'm sure the dev have another goal to reach as soon as possible, like slot game and system availability of mobile app.

Besides that, because it's used ETH blockchain, I think it's difficult to change the system.

But the price keep changing every day, I think first some rules would be needed to avoid losses and confusion about the minimum changing every time. Also no gambling site would be good for everyone, some will be for whales, others will be for penny bettors. Maybe the minimum is to avoid blockchain spam too, who knows.

That is true, i think it would require a new contract or something similar to change the rules.
However i see that Ethereum is going to drop quite alot in the near future after so long pump, so maybe that 0.22ETH will not be that much then.
But i do not see why making a new smart contract would take much time, because you could have 2 seperate smart contracts at least.

Yes, right, I forgot.. It is based on smart contracts, isn't it? I did wonder before whether it is possible to abort or change such a contract. How does it work? Say, if it was set for one year, is it possible within the year to change it? Or the possibility of change has to be included in the contract in advance?
You are talking about a new contract here. Is it possible to make a new contract that will contradict the previous one and start processing instead? Or maybe the new contract can be made only when the previous one has come to an end?

[onnz423]

Yes, right, I forgot.. It is based on smart contracts, isn't it? I did wonder before whether it is possible to abort or change such a contract. How does it work? Say, if it was set for one year, is it possible within the year to change it? Or the possibility of change has to be included in the contract in advance?
You are talking about a new contract here. Is it possible to make a new contract that will contradict the previous one and start processing instead? Or maybe the new contract can be made only when the previous one has come to an end?

Yeah it is, i do not know that much about ethereum smart contracts at all.
However i think you can always make new contracts, but you cannot edit the existing one at all.
All of the following are smart contracts i think:



So far example the first game you can see the smart contract from Etherscan.
You can search any linked contracts to addresses with that block explorer.

[maku]

I am not smart contract literate, but as other commented it appears that even simple change of minimum bet requirement requires changing the whole contract.
Smart contract functionality was created to improve the system, add some new features and make sure that bets are processed as intended.
In the situation when smart contract instead of bringing some kind of advantage becomes a liability instead is not the ideal situation.

[densuj]

The absence of adequate cheat-proof standards has plagued online casino industry since its inception. In most of the cases, these standards are intentionally given a miss in favor of online casino owners with deep pockets. They manipulate the outcomes by abusing the outcomes of the bets, leaving players with the losses they don’t deserve.
http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/07/17/%c2%adidice-io-worlds-first-mobile-gambling-dapp-also-cheat-proof/amp/
vdice is fair dice gambling games. 

[avatar_kiyoshi]

Yes, right, I forgot.. It is based on smart contracts, isn't it? I did wonder before whether it is possible to abort or change such a contract. How does it work? Say, if it was set for one year, is it possible within the year to change it? Or the possibility of change has to be included in the contract in advance?
You are talking about a new contract here. Is it possible to make a new contract that will contradict the previous one and start processing instead? Or maybe the new contract can be made only when the previous one has come to an end?

AFAIK if the contract has been in the blockchain, it's can't change except it's allowed to change thru original code.
So could be create new contract is the easiest way, but it's also generate new address (CMIIW).

[MedaR]

However i see that Ethereum is going to drop quite alot in the near future after so long pump, so maybe that 0.22ETH will not be that much then.
But i do not see why making a new smart contract would take much time, because you could have 2 seperate smart contracts at least.

I do not know much about Ether, but as how thing are standing now i will take the time for that, also must advise others to do so. No matter what's going on with eth price we can be sure that eth is favored by many people, and it will grow over time.
Those separate contracts are confusing, for one who are accustomed to BTC blockchain and similar projects..
I can use one contract, i do not have need to create them all?

[taxmanmt5]

However i see that Ethereum is going to drop quite alot in the near future after so long pump, so maybe that 0.22ETH will not be that much then.
But i do not see why making a new smart contract would take much time, because you could have 2 seperate smart contracts at least.

I do not know much about Ether, but as how thing are standing now i will take the time for that, also must advise others to do so. No matter what's going on with eth price we can be sure that eth is favored by many people, and it will grow over time.
Those separate contracts are confusing, for one who are accustomed to BTC blockchain and similar projects..
I can use one contract, i do not have need to create them all?

Ethereum is an alt coin and currently its price is going down. For the gambling lovers who want to play gambling on Vdice, its a good news for them as they can buy cheap Ethereum from the exchanges and transfer it to the Vdice site and gamble to win hopefully. 

[onnz423]

I do not know much about Ether, but as how thing are standing now i will take the time for that, also must advise others to do so. No matter what's going on with eth price we can be sure that eth is favored by many people, and it will grow over time.
Those separate contracts are confusing, for one who are accustomed to BTC blockchain and similar projects..
I can use one contract, i do not have need to create them all?

You do not have to create any contracts, because you are a player on vDice.
Ethereum will grow over time for sure but i think that it will still not be favoured by mainstream, pretty much only favoured by developers and such.

Ethereum is an alt coin and currently its price is going down. For the gambling lovers who want to play gambling on Vdice, its a good news for them as they can buy cheap Ethereum from the exchanges and transfer it to the Vdice site and gamble to win hopefully. 

The price is cheaper yes, however the minimum bet of 0.22 ETH, is still worth around 45$ which is a lot of money.
I don't think it will create much more bets on vDice, because of the price of the bet.

[maku]

The price is cheaper yes, however the minimum bet of 0.22 ETH, is still worth around 45$ which is a lot of money.
I don't think it will create much more bets on vDice, because of the price of the bet.

ETH price will soon get even more expensive, it seems that Bitcoin miners finally reached consensus and locked in BIP91
This move brought back optimism and bolster faith in whole cryptocurrency, just take a look at general market capitalization of crypto market:
https://coinmarketcap.com/ - every single coin is in green, Bitcoin will soon cross $3000 or more and ETH will follow.
And we still have minimum bet of 0.22 ETH on vDice...

[dodgrad]

Dear VDice. Do you have any repository? Can you link your github or so? Thanks 

[kryptqnick]

The absence of adequate cheat-proof standards has plagued online casino industry since its inception. In most of the cases, these standards are intentionally given a miss in favor of online casino owners with deep pockets. They manipulate the outcomes by abusing the outcomes of the bets, leaving players with the losses they don’t deserve.
http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/07/17/%c2%adidice-io-worlds-first-mobile-gambling-dapp-also-cheat-proof/amp/
vdice is fair dice gambling games. 

It is fair indeed and as lots of scams are out there on the market, vdice is a great option. Perhaps people have to pay a lot for this secure way of playing... Nevertheless, as a minimum bet is currently worth around $50, I think there have to be made some changes. If it was reduced I believe a lot more people would gamble out there. Otherwise people are likely to choose a cheaper and less secure play instead. What is your opinion on this matter. And what is the opinion of the owner? Is it actually more profitable for a site to work with such sums? 

[posternat]

Those gamblers who are worried about the Bitcoin hard/Soft fork and swegit , can convert their bitcoins in ETH and then play the gambling without any interception , in case there is a disruption of Bitcoins near few days around August 1. Vdice is the best choice for the gamblers as they can contuine to play with ETH without taking into account any drama by the bitcoin fork