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July 04, 2016, 02:07:09 PM |
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For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?
I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?
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It's not that newbies are worthless, but that their questions are frequently things that can be answered with a simple search. Many times newbies will ask a question without either googling the question first or scrolling around the forum a little bit and reading threads that may also answer their question. Additionally, it is irritating for many members when newbies don't read the stickied threads of rules and then promptly complain about their threads being removed because it violated the rules.
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July 04, 2016, 02:34:25 PM |
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Human beings have a tendency of believing that anyone who is new on anything doesn't know at all. If I start another bitcointalk account, I will start as a newbie but I am experienced here. The ranking on bitcointalk is meant to allow members to progress step by step as they gain reputation and trust from the community. The only problem is that people start new accounts to scam people. That is why a newbie will not be trusted until he stays long enough and becomes known to other forum members.
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July 04, 2016, 02:54:21 PM |
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For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?
I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?
The newbies are regarded everywhere as people who do not yet know much about how the board works, that's why people think they have no knowledge about it. But even if that is true, they will eventually understand the functioning of these forums, and to integrate in this forums.
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July 04, 2016, 03:01:29 PM |
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In 2016 I don't think you can regard all newbies on this site as idiots. A lot of people with high ranked accounts have sold them, you never know if a newbie is really a newbie these days (hope I explained myself well here).
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July 04, 2016, 03:14:05 PM |
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For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?
I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?
The only thing newbies are not capable of in this forum is them to be trusted. Their accounts are worthless so doing something against forum rules or decent human etiquette will be easy for them. However they do have a say when they prove that they have a good intention. It's not that they are foolish, they are just untrustable.
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July 04, 2016, 03:44:54 PM |
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For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?
I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?
Many times the opposite is true, i mean very experienced member make new accounts to promote some services and most likely thats are scams. That's why everyone should always pay attention on "Newbies" accounts. Experienced users know that already and very fast can understand what is going on..
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July 04, 2016, 04:51:28 PM |
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For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?
I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?
Many times the opposite is true, i mean very experienced member make new accounts to promote some services and most likely thats are scams. That's why everyone should always pay attention on "Newbies" accounts. Experienced users know that already and very fast can understand what is going on.. Most of the "newbie" accounts nowadays aren't really newbies, anyways. They're either trolls, people who want to hide behind a new face, or account farmers, and most of the people under those categories can be ignored 99% of the time. And when you say that many newbies are created just to vouch for something, I suppose that could be correct but keep in mind that newbies aren't given much room to give reputation because of their lack of time dedicated to the forum. That's why many vouches are given to reputable/high account status accounts.
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July 04, 2016, 05:20:08 PM |
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For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?
I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?
The answer to your question is here the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=207.0See yobit thread, you find a lot of people do question like: "I am XXX can join the signature campaign my rank Newbie" Are many newbie members who ask this question, but on the first page of the yobit thread has the rules of signature campaign that says do not accept newbies. people not want read ... Another subject "scammers" Many newbie are scammers, create account to promote their websites ponzi they does not intend to come to the forum to learn, they want to steal.
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July 04, 2016, 05:34:02 PM |
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For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?
I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?
The answer to your question is here the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=207.0See yobit thread, you find a lot of people do question like: "I am XXX can join the signature campaign my rank Newbie" Are many newbie members who ask this question, but on the first page of the yobit thread has the rules of signature campaign that says do not accept newbies. people not want read ... Another subject "scammers" Many newbie are scammers, create account to promote their websites ponzi they does not intend to come to the forum to learn, they want to steal. Of course! Nobody will risk reputation of trusted account! To promote Ponzi, HYIP or other scam services they just open new accounts and wihout problem are spamming links to their services. I think that most likely because of this practice people don't trust newbies.
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July 04, 2016, 05:38:57 PM |
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Only if you act foolish i guess.
On some subjects it's easier and better to rely on some long term members.
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July 04, 2016, 06:12:04 PM |
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I think newbies are mostly just new to bitcoin and may not even know how to search on this forum yet. I know I was that way and there are questions that I ask that may seem stupid to others but if you are completely new to this, you need some guidance at first.
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July 04, 2016, 08:27:26 PM |
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The thing with newbie is that you need to provide something to the group, whether it be information or whether you help and assist someone here. You need to make a name for yourself and not be one of those who come here 2 or 3 times a month than want something from someone.
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July 04, 2016, 08:49:01 PM |
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i considers not only newbie as fools because if someone else create new thread with asking similar questions without looking formerly the answers because they too lazy i think they were also fools
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July 04, 2016, 10:32:26 PM |
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i considers not only newbie as fools because if someone else create new thread with asking similar questions without looking formerly the answers because they too lazy i think they were also fools
There are way to many newbie which do this. Every day you can find a new member to this forum which posts, how do I get bitcoin, or some variation of this question. Why do you not read or search the forum to find this question out. You o not need to waste our time and ask what has been asked hundreds of times already.
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July 05, 2016, 03:19:11 AM |
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For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?
Sure. They have a voice. But the vast majority of them use that voice to: - Give horrible and dangerous advice
- Spew nonsense and repetitive crap
- Pump altcoins, pay-per-click advertising (falsely called "faucets"), HYIP, cloud mining, gambling, and other sig-ad crap
- Ask questions that can easily be answered by typing the exact same question into their favorite search engine (such as Google)
- Scam other users
- Ask how they can get "FREE MONEY"
I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?
Yes. Definitely.
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July 05, 2016, 05:01:28 AM |
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In 2016 I don't think you can regard all newbies on this site as idiots. A lot of people with high ranked accounts have sold them, you never know if a newbie is really a newbie these days (hope I explained myself well here).
I am myself a newbie and i think being a newbie is not a bad thing.
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July 05, 2016, 05:19:39 AM |
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People will always want to hide their identity when they want to scam. I believe some of the newbie accounts that are created to scam people are formed by highly ranking members on this forum. Otherwise you can not expect someone who is completely new to come here and start something that he doesn't know. They create the new accounts knowing that their real accounts are very safe, and therefore even if the new account created receives negative reputation, they will still run smoothly. I stand to be corrected.
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July 05, 2016, 05:54:35 AM |
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This statement is completely false. None tries to oppose a newbie or doesn't accept their valued posts. Most of the time newbies will be advised not to get caught into the hands of scams because scammers always target newbies to make profit with their attractive earning methods.
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July 05, 2016, 05:57:10 AM |
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Newbies are important because we need this crypto network to grow, so we must accept new people in.
Some will not bring much to the table, it is true; but many geniuses are still out there not having found cryptocurrencies yet.
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